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Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: aepuppetmaster on July 22, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
i am interested to know 1 thing from m$.  Will they go the sony route and try to screw us?  i have a psp and have been an active member of psp forums and 1 thing that they did that i genious for them but sucks for us is that 1) they encrypt everything, bt 2) they have all these firmware updates, and further more required firmware updates for games.  It will be harder to do with a concole but what if why they give u a the free live to get u to download updates and stop piracy.  since its free ur gunna be (thoredically) always conected.  so maybe hardware updates will be the only way.
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Bogus8 on July 23, 2005, 05:47:00 PM
They can't MAKE you go live... not everyone has the ability... plenty of peeps still on dial up some MIGHT not even have i-net period... ok that's pushing it wink.gif
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: XBSC on July 23, 2005, 06:59:00 PM
Also, they cant just install the updates for you - always read what your installing before clicking yes... smile.gif

Mircosoft have been penalised before for "auto-updates" as with windows.

Plus, kia should be able to support the X360 out of the box.
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: TheMuffinMan on July 24, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
1) it's not kia don't know why people type that it's kai
2) Firmware updates are the exact same as XBOX Live updates, you get a new upgraded dash etc
3) as of this moment there is no reason to mod it, is got an upgradable hdd, it can do basically everything a modded xbox can do, but streamlined by MS
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: SickJoda on July 24, 2005, 09:44:00 AM
QUOTE(solder_blob @ Jul 22 2005, 11:41 PM)
Tho I'm sure it will be modded on the first day its out... I mean I'm pretty sure there's gonna be a disgruntled M$ developer that is willing to leak documents or whatever on how they debugged the box or programmed it and whatever which leads to other people modding the heck out of it.
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: SickJoda on July 24, 2005, 09:49:00 AM
Sorry For the Dobble Post BUT...
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: XBSC on July 24, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Kia, as far as i understand is pratically VPN - Passing network packets which would usually go between two xbox's on a network over the internet to another xbox..yes i know thats rather simplified and its alot more complex than that.

Well so long as the x360 has a feature such as system link then Kia should be able to support it with little change to the software.

The suggestion of Kia was only in the event that MS starts banning once the modificaitons begin
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: halofreak007 on July 24, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
looks like many of us are going to buy 2 or more consoles
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: nj12nets on July 24, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
its xlink kai - not kia. and it will definitley not be modded the first day - thats just impossible
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Carlo210 on July 24, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
How is the xlink stuff? Like, does it work like a lan game?
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Much on July 24, 2005, 12:48:00 PM
Yes xlink works like a lan game and I will be buying 2 360's for sure.
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: XBSC on July 24, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
QUOTE(nj12nets @ Jul 24 2005, 08:47 PM)
its xlink kai - not kia. and it will definitley not be modded the first day - thats just impossible
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Carlo210 on July 25, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
You won't be getting a free playable online service, if that's what you mean by Free XboxLive.  wink.gif

You'll still have to pay to play online.
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: XBSC on July 25, 2005, 10:49:00 AM
??? I thought the XBL Silver service which comes free with X360 made the service avaliable at the weekends?

If thats not the case i shall be disappointed  mad.gif
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: M-K-E! on July 25, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
i really dont care if it's free or not, i still got 6 month's of it after the 360 comes out...so as long as ms doesnt f' up with the "transfer" of xbox live accounts, ill be good to go.


and as for the autoupdates...i dont understand what the big deal is...up untill recently (ok, not "recently" but recently in how long the xbod modin' scene has been here) we had to unplug the ethernet cable from the xbox in order not to get banned from xbox live (cuz some games have the auto sign in)...so well just have to wait for another "xbox live" blocking bios...or unplug our network cable when we want to "use our modchip"
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
How do you get xlink?
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: thecheat on July 27, 2005, 10:30:00 AM
QUOTE(scienide @ Jul 27 2005, 09:38 AM)
For some reason, people on live only care about winning. On x-link its more about the fun ...
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
How do you get Xlink Kai though. It seems interesting.
What do you pay for it and how do you install it or use it.
Also, if it is like a lan game, are there no buddy lists and the sort?
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 27, 2005, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(thecheat @ Jul 27 2005, 12:41 PM)
honestly, that standby shit is getting old, and people take hacking XBL as a challenge, so alot more people do it,  anyways i'll bet M$ will definately take the $ony way out, as for auto updates? i'll bet they will throw in a bunch of free stuff to temp xbox nubs, and yes, i'm sure it will work. and i will be highly suprised if KAI works for the X360. we all know KAI is one thing M$ really hates. but... in conclusion, don't be suprised if M$ has a few tricks up their sleeve
Title: Will M$ Screwus?
Post by: Moleman on July 28, 2005, 06:09:00 PM
QUOTE(XBSC @ Jul 25 2005, 02:00 PM)
??? I thought the XBL Silver service which comes free with X360 made the service avaliable at the weekends?