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Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Xbox-Scene on October 24, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Posted by XanTium | October 25 00:24 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From benheck.com:
Quote

Today I'm going to show you all the prototype for the new single handed controller I have designed and built, which I've been calling the "Access Controller". This is actually the second prototype, a more refined version of the first. Alongside the new Elite-based Xbox 360 laptop (yes, it is coming) this has consumed most of time in recent months, hopefully explaining the drought of new projects.

Here's the basic principle: You lay this controller on your leg, table or arm of a chair and all the buttons are available on the top surface. The gag is that each of the five sections is removable and you can plug them anywhere you want. This not only makes the controller work for both left and right handed use (simply mirror the layout) but it also allows the user to optimize the button placement on a game-by-game basis. Even if the user has partial use of both hands it should still be easier to work with than a standard controller.

This unit is currently in pre-production for manufacturing thanks to the folks at eDimensional.com and will first appear as a wireless model for the PS2/PS3, with an Xbox 360 version pending.

Full Story: benheck.com



Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: SuperStition on October 24, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
wow neat!, i think the left analog stick should be in the middle, being controlled by the palm tongue.gif

how does the hand rest on it again?
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 24, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
holy shit that is so bad ass.

i remember a thread a while back where a kid was limited to one hand i believe and he was trying to have people help him come up with something like this.

lots of gamers will be happy im sure, even some lazy ones who just want to eat chips while they play.


Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: fuerio on October 24, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
hey look! it's a liquor flask with controller buttons!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Tiuk on October 24, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
Excellent that this is going to be mass produced.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: GSX on October 24, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Looks like a nice concept, but I don't have gorilla sized hands...
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Antinous-ODY on October 24, 2007, 11:23:00 PM
QUOTE(fuerio @ Oct 24 2007, 11:49 PM) *

hey look! it's a liquor flask with controller buttons!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


My first thoughts exactly, he was DRINKING when he came up with this! That's the only explanation for it. Well done for a drunken design though.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: joemm210 on October 24, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
QUOTE(GSX @ Oct 25 2007, 06:05 AM) View Post

Looks like a nice concept, but I don't have gorilla sized hands...



This is for people who do not have use of both hands, so it is not made to be held in two hands. It was created to be placed on your leg while you are sitting so you can use your one functional hand to play Halo3.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Lush on October 24, 2007, 11:30:00 PM
benheck is the ultimate modder...
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: GSX on October 24, 2007, 11:08:00 PM
QUOTE(joemm210 @ Oct 25 2007, 01:28 AM) View Post

This is for people who do not have use of both hands, so it is not made to be held in two hands. It was created to be placed on your leg while you are sitting so you can use your one functional hand to play Halo3.

Ok, I got that the first time i read it.. This is going to be mass produced, so I doubt they're only going for the handicapped user.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: flashfreak on October 24, 2007, 11:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Lush @ Oct 25 2007, 04:30 PM) *

benheck is the ultimate modder...


+1
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Robotic Clone on October 24, 2007, 11:54:00 PM
"No one is disabled, they are just differently abled"

Ben Heck is awesome and I hope this does go into production of some sort because I know a lot of people that would appreciate a controller like this one.

Way to go Ben!
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Bubbalynch on October 25, 2007, 01:00:00 AM
Thats really cool.

Good for Ben. And good for gamers in need of this wonderful device.

Two thumbs up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on October 25, 2007, 01:01:00 AM
QUOTE(GSX @ Oct 25 2007, 06:44 AM) View Post

Ok, I got that the first time i read it.. This is going to be mass produced, so I doubt they're only going for the handicapped user.


haha are you serious
how many handicapped ppl do you think are there in the world
this thing isnt made so you can watch and control your pornos on your 360 while your other hand is free to spank the ol monkey

Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: GSX on October 25, 2007, 02:14:00 AM
QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ Oct 25 2007, 03:37 AM) View Post

haha are you serious
how many handicapped ppl do you think are there in the world
this thing isnt made so you can watch and control your pornos on your 360 while your other hand is free to spank the ol monkey

You're missing the lazy ass ppl market as mentioned above. It was designed for a certain reason, but might be used in other ways. It's just my opinion but i see a use for everyone....I might even grab one when it's out.

Pfff...Watching porn on a 360? That's very upper class of you. I do all my porno watching in a dark laundry closet on a smart phone, so I don't get my ass kicked laugh.gif
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Flashelek on October 25, 2007, 03:05:00 AM
QUOTE(GSX @ Oct 25 2007, 10:50 AM) *

 I do all my porno watching in a dark laundry closet on a smart phone, so I don't get my ass kicked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


had me laughing for minutes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Great idea btw, i think the ppl who really Need this for gameing will love you guys for this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Hack_kid on October 25, 2007, 03:30:00 AM
Man I really hope they make a 360 version soon i want to get this for my dad, he had a stroke when i was 10 (8yrs) ago and lost the use of his right hand, we havent been able to play video games since then. this would be great.

Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: englishnamja on October 25, 2007, 03:42:00 AM
NO THANKS!!! not only does this look ugly.. but single handed?!?!!? ???? why would i want to attempt a shoot'em up single handed? driving game single handed etc?? is this a late april fools JOKE?!! ?

not only does it look UGLY, its clearly pointless for the avrage user out there, unless you unfortunatly stole something from saudi arabia, and had one of your hands chopped off if i was you.. give this a wide miss...

Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: dkap01 on October 25, 2007, 04:31:00 AM
QUOTE(englishnamja @ Oct 25 2007, 10:42 AM) *

NO THANKS!!! not only does this look ugly.. but single handed?!?!!? ???? why would i want to attempt a shoot'em up single handed? driving game single handed etc?? is this a late april fools JOKE?!! ?

not only does it look UGLY, its clearly pointless for the avrage user out there, unless you unfortunatly stole something from saudi arabia, and had one of your hands chopped off if i was you.. give this a wide miss...


Your a A$$, Did you know that 2/3rds of all house holds in the US have a game system in it and that 1 in 5 has someone that has a disibility. Just because you can use both of your hand doesn't mean that this is a stupid idea. How would you like to have to watch from the side lines because you had a stroke, MS, CP or maybe lost a arm or hand . I agree with ben on this theres a need for something like this, thats why Im doing the same. Im almost done with my one handed controller for the PS2 and I'll be doing the same with all the controllers out there. So maybe next time before you start running you mouth, think be for you speak.

 -Dave



http://customportables.com

This post has been edited by dkap01: Oct 25 2007, 11:34 AM
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: deilzfcjk on October 25, 2007, 04:02:00 AM
QUOTE(dkap01 @ Oct 25 2007, 11:31 AM) View Post

Your a A$$, Did you know that 2/3rds of all house holds in the US have a game system in it and that 1 in 5 has someone that has a disibility. Just because you can use both of your hand doesn't mean that this is a stupid idea. How would you like to have to watch from the side lines because you had a stroke, MS, CP or maybe lost a arm or hand . I agree with ben on this theres a need for something like this, thats why Im doing the same. Im almost done with my one handed controller for the PS2 and I'll be doing the same with all the controllers out there. So maybe next time before you start running you mouth, think be for you speak.

 -Dave
http://customportables.com


Ohhhh pwnt!! tell that sucker!!
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Shatcore on October 25, 2007, 06:33:00 AM
QUOTE(dkap01 @ Oct 25 2007, 11:31 AM) *

Your a A$$, Did you know that 2/3rds of all house holds in the US have a game system in it and that 1 in 5 has someone that has a disibility. Just because you can use both of your hand doesn't mean that this is a stupid idea. How would you like to have to watch from the side lines because you had a stroke, MS, CP or maybe lost a arm or hand . I agree with ben on this theres a need for something like this, thats why Im doing the same. Im almost done with my one handed controller for the PS2 and I'll be doing the same with all the controllers out there. So maybe next time before you start running you mouth, think be for you speak.

 -Dave
http://customportables.com


I'd rather just not play, if i did I'd get pissed off losing at games that you need 2 fucking hands to play (which encompasses just about every game) Sorry but playing with one hand just isn't going to cut the mustard.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: GSX on October 25, 2007, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(dkap01 @ Oct 25 2007, 06:31 AM) View Post

Ben Heck watch out, this guy is not playing...I love the hand held xbox.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: iLLNESS on October 25, 2007, 07:23:00 AM
im kinda curious how this is sposed to make things easier for one handed people..
aside from the fact all buttons are on the top..

how are they sposed to manage 2 joysticks and all the buttons?
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: englishnamja on October 25, 2007, 07:25:00 AM

DEAR DAVE...!!

I didn't say this doesnt have a use... but the normal minority like myself born with 2 hands.... dry.gif
this is indeed a load of crap... im pretty sure its got use for disabled people like steven hawkins etc who have so much time on thier hands to play xbox 360.. and other disabled people and i warrent its use for that.. but lets face it dave.. you used my comment as a cheap plug for your crappy 1 handed controller too...

btw dave.. call me an "a$$" again and you wont have any hands.. and you will need controller to play with your face... biggrin.gif

peace!
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: mva5580 on October 25, 2007, 08:28:00 AM
That is a really, really cool device, and that guy is going to be rich.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: mikemikemikemikemike on October 25, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
stick some bolts in the sides and call it frankentroller!

looks like the old breast pocket gin bottles
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: pimpmaul69 on October 25, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(englishnamja @ Oct 25 2007, 03:01 PM) View Post

DEAR DAVE...!!

I didn't say this doesnt have a use... but the normal minority like myself born with 2 hands.... dry.gif
this is indeed a load of crap... im pretty sure its got use for disabled people like steven hawkins etc who have so much time on thier hands to play xbox 360.. and other disabled people and i warrent its use for that.. but lets face it dave.. you used my comment as a cheap plug for your crappy 1 handed controller too...

btw dave.. call me an "a$$" again and you wont have any hands.. and you will need controller to play with your face... biggrin.gif

peace!

englishnamja after your second post you proved two things. your not only an ass but you are completely ignorant.. im guessing your maybe twelve or you sure act like it. but in any case you should get banned for the threats you made.

now back to the subject.. i would love to get a hold of ben cause i have an awesome idea how to make them intechangeable with the use of pin headers so no wires would exist
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: pingrr on October 25, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(dkap01 @ Oct 25 2007, 06:31 AM) View Post

Your a A$$, Did you know that 2/3rds of all house holds in the US have a game system in it and that 1 in 5 has someone that has a disibility. Just because you can use both of your hand doesn't mean that this is a stupid idea. How would you like to have to watch from the side lines because you had a stroke, MS, CP or maybe lost a arm or hand . I agree with ben on this theres a need for something like this, thats why Im doing the same. Im almost done with my one handed controller for the PS2 and I'll be doing the same with all the controllers out there. So maybe next time before you start running you mouth, think be for you speak.

 -Dave
http://customportables.com


what kind of statistic is that?  1 in 5 house holds have somone with a disability.  You forgot to mention that the majority of the people in this stat with a disabitlity have both hands.

I will be suprised if this product makes it into any kind of mass production.  It just doesn't look very easy to use and I don't see much of a market for it.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: englishnamja on October 25, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
QUOTE(pimpmaul69 @ Oct 26 2007, 04:02 AM) View Post

englishnamja after your second post you proved two things. your not only an ass but you are completely ignorant.. im guessing your maybe twelve or you sure act like it. but in any case you should get banned for the threats you made.

now back to the subject.. i would love to get a hold of ben cause i have an awesome idea how to make them intechangeable with the use of pin headers so no wires would exist


OMG how thick are you?? did i say it has no value?? no! what i stated is.. it clearly looks like crap, nobody in thier right mind *with* two hands would find it useful, and its ugly.. what! should i get flamed for telling the truth?? I like to see a show of hands... laugh.gif anybody one handed who would really be intrested in this controller.. fact is gary was looking to commint anyhow on this topic for the reason of plugging his website and his controller.. and YOU.. my little precious.... what the F*CK do you know about me.. how far is this banning people going to go..? cant talk about copy games, cant talk about this and that.. cant threaten... this is the internet.. FREEDOM of SPEECH! I tell you what.. why not ban me "pimpmaul69" Ill just make a new ID the day after called englishnamja2... blah.. go eat your cerial and stop dribbling you little cretin...mommys packed you tuna sandwiches and an apple today... goto school like a good little boy..
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: dkap01 on October 25, 2007, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(pingrr @ Oct 25 2007, 09:04 PM) View Post

what kind of statistic is that?  1 in 5 house holds have somone with a disability.  You forgot to mention that the majority of the people in this stat with a disabitlity have both hands.

I will be suprised if this product makes it into any kind of mass production.  It just doesn't look very easy to use and I don't see much of a market for it.


The majority of people do have both hands but that doesn't mean that they can use both of them.

englishnamja:
  You just have to look at the big picture, people with disibilities are looking for products like these. None of the the big game companys make anything like these. You just dont understand because you dont have one your self. My son has a disibilty and by that it has really opened my eyes to this problem, it's that we need to help with this. One of my freinds has CP and has little use of his right hand, but can use his left hand just fine. Thats why my first controller will be a left handed one. Everyone has a right to their opinion but dont dis something that might help someone else. No hard feelings smile.gif


     -Dave


http://customportables.com
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: englishnamja on October 25, 2007, 03:37:00 PM
QUOTE(dkap01 @ Oct 26 2007, 06:37 AM) View Post

The majority of people do have both hands but that doesn't mean that they can use both of them.

englishnamja:
  You just have to look at the big picture, people with disibilities are looking for products like these. None of the the big game companys make anything like these. You just dont understand because you dont have one your self. My son has a disibilty and by that it has really opened my eyes to this problem, it's that we need to help with this. One of my freinds has CP and has little use of his right hand, but can use his left hand just fine. Thats why my first controller will be a left handed one. Everyone has a right to their opinion but dont dis something that might help someone else. No hard feelings smile.gif
     -Dave
http://customportables.com


thats fair enough dave,

im man enough to say sorry when im in the wrong.....

forgive my rants, but.. i think of myself as a xbox critic.. like a food critic i say what i really feel and think about something.....

thing is with big companys.. is if its marketable it will be made.. isnt that the way with any good business plan..? so i really think the market for single handed game pads are just way too small..

I like the idea of giving anybody with a disablity the hope of playing games or socialsing with other children thru gaming etc.. as a great one.. and i commend you for that.. but.. in all honesty ben hecks design looks not only flawed.. ( due to the fact the spacing of the buttons etc look way too wide apart.. prehaps ok for playing simple online games like uno, etc.. but for FPS games, car games etc.. the design is flawed.. unless your ambidextrous, or have the ablity to both sides of the brain at the same time to control motor skills on one hand this design is flawed...imagine for 1 second using a d-pad to look up, down, left, right.. and the other to strife left and right.. up and down, at the same time on one hand? chances are quite unlikely.. and then to compete with other people.. or the AI within a game? id guess and say imposable..!

Id like to help this project.. by desiging a pad myself...(sketch-wise) which i know for a FACT!! my design would enable somebody to be able to play a game... with the same speed, ablity and performance of an able person...

let me know if you want to see my design....

goodluck.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: glaaki on October 25, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
Sweet, I'm gonna buy two, one for each hand, and I'll be able to do crazy moves in Halo 3!!! Reload, jump, and melee all at once. You're all gonna be PWNED!

Seriously though, I could see where some folks could use this, and it's good to see Ben using his powers for the forces of good and not just to make a buck.

Right on Brother.

G
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: dkap01 on October 25, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
QUOTE(englishnamja @ Oct 25 2007, 11:13 PM) View Post

thats fair enough dave,

im man enough to say sorry when im in the wrong.....

forgive my rants, but.. i think of myself as a xbox critic.. like a food critic i say what i really feel and think about something.....

thing is with big companys.. is if its marketable it will be made.. isnt that the way with any good business plan..? so i really think the market for single handed game pads are just way too small..

I like the idea of giving anybody with a disablity the hope of playing games or socialsing with other children thru gaming etc.. as a great one.. and i commend you for that.. but.. in all honesty ben hecks design looks not only flawed.. ( due to the fact the spacing of the buttons etc look way too wide apart.. prehaps ok for playing simple online games like uno, etc.. but for FPS games, car games etc.. the design is flawed.. unless your ambidextrous, or have the ablity to both sides of the brain at the same time to control motor skills on one hand this design is flawed...imagine for 1 second using a d-pad to look up, down, left, right.. and the other to strife left and right.. up and down, at the same time on one hand? chances are quite unlikely.. and then to compete with other people.. or the AI within a game? id guess and say imposable..!

Id like to help this project.. by desiging a pad myself...(sketch-wise) which i know for a FACT!! my design would enable somebody to be able to play a game... with the same speed, ablity and performance of an able person...

let me know if you want to see my design....

goodluck.


I agree the design is something I wouldn't do and to me, just like you, it looks hard to use. Dont get me wrong, ben does great work but its to busy. To play most of the fps your going to need to hold the controller, so I think and Im doing is putting buttons on the back. Like I said before I'll be doing a one handed controller for almost every system out there. It will hopefully be a whole line of controllers. If you really want to help and do some sketches, I'll be glad to look at them. Who knows there might be something that I haven't throught of that could help me out. Thanks for any help you could give...


          -Dave

email: [email protected]


http://customcontrollers.com
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: dsdsds on October 25, 2007, 09:45:00 PM
I totally agree with englishnamja.  That controller is a terrible design and could never work.  It is definitely not ergonomic.  Spreading your 5 fingers out on a relatively flat surface and having each one control a button or button group is ridiculous.  Just try it on your desk and you’ll start feeling uncomfortable in less than a minute.  If one handed people start using it, they’ll lose function of their only remaining hand (carpal tunnel syndrome & tendonitis).
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: africamagical on October 26, 2007, 12:01:00 AM
carpel tunnel is a wrist affliction r tard,
I dont see how any one can knock this, if someone has a need for it; they can buy it
If the twelve year old's that are bitching dont like it, they doesnt have to buy it; not sure why one feels the need to flame the product.

seems like a great idea for those in need of such a device.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: NKI Klepto on October 26, 2007, 05:58:00 AM
QUOTE(GSX @ Oct 25 2007, 01:05 AM) *

Looks like a nice concept, but I don't have gorilla sized hands...



exactly what i thought, how are you going to use one hand on this device?? i dont see it... can someone explain how your hand rests on it??


^^^ NOT trying to knock it at all, i just dont see how one hand can manipulate this product.

This post has been edited by NKI Klepto: Oct 26 2007, 12:59 PM
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: dsdsds on October 26, 2007, 09:15:00 AM
It doesn't work.  Designing a controller involves analyzing ergonomics and testing. This is buttons and nobs on a box.  Just because the controls may be reachable with your fingers doesn't automaically make it practical.  Sorry, but he put it out there so it is open for critizism.  That shape will never work.  He will lose a lot money if he mass produces it.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: NKI Klepto on October 26, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
ya thats what im thinking, why doesnt he use his design for that one handed controller he made for that soldier? now that was sick.
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: fuerio on February 02, 2020, 04:13:00 PM
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) *yawn *

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Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: tom_mandory on October 27, 2007, 05:52:00 AM
thank god for this!
now i can finally finish playing tomb raider...
Title: Benheck's New Single Handed 'Access' Controller
Post by: Eddie_the_Hated on October 27, 2007, 11:41:00 AM
I'll be honest, I can't see how it would work out exactly. Maybe a video or something would better visualise it for me, but he gets credit for the reasoning behind it alone.