Post by: k0mpresd on February 28, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
so i then extracted the iso to replace the files. but im not sure how to rebuild the iso. i tried using xdvd mulleter. but i get an error no video file found when i try to build the iso.
what is the best way to go about patching/building the iso? thanks.
Post by: thesonandheir on February 28, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
QUOTE(k0mpresd @ Feb 28 2010, 04:39 PM) 
i tried to patch a mw2 iso with the hacked files but it corrupted the iso because one file was larger than the original file.
so i then extracted the iso to replace the files. but im not sure how to rebuild the iso. i tried using xdvd mulleter. but i get an error no video file found when i try to build the iso.
what is the best way to go about patching/building the iso? thanks.
I too would like to know this.
Post by: Martinchris23 on February 28, 2010, 12:14:00 PM
Post by: k0mpresd on February 28, 2010, 02:47:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on February 28, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
QUOTE(k0mpresd @ Feb 28 2010, 09:47 PM)
because i want a patched disc.
Why exactly? You can run the game far better from the HDD, surely?
Post by: k0mpresd on February 28, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on February 28, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE(k0mpresd @ Feb 28 2010, 11:28 PM)
why does it matter? i want what i want. its totally moot why i want what i want.
It matters because there's no logistic reason as to why you would want to do it. Convert it into an ISO and make into a GoD - that I can understand. However I'm getting the impression you intend to sell it onto others. That and you're being extremely obtuse. Suit yourself, it's you asking for help - not me. Maybe some other sap will come running to help you make money out of a modded game. I for one won't.
The information you need is here - you just need to get off your arse and find it.
Post by: k0mpresd on February 28, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 01, 2010, 02:15:00 AM
QUOTE(k0mpresd @ Mar 1 2010, 12:32 AM)
i have no intentions on selling it. get off your horse.
Then there's absolutely no reason why you would need this back into an ISO. Just burn the folder/files onto a DVD+R/DL if you want a copy on optical media. Since you need a JTAG'd box to use it, it would suffice.
Post by: thesonandheir on March 01, 2010, 07:21:00 AM
We all know the different ways to run things on a JTAG, we dont need to be told to 'just use option A'.
The OP asked for help, can anyone help him instead of questioning him?
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 01, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(thesonandheir @ Mar 1 2010, 02:21 PM)
He was just asking for help to do something, he explained quite clearly what he was trying to do, he never mentioned anything about selling, in fact i'm quite astounded that anyone could jump to those conclusions from his original post.
We all know the different ways to run things on a JTAG, we dont need to be told to 'just use option A'.
The OP asked for help, can anyone help him instead of questioning him?
And what's so wrong with asking why?
I've worked in solutions development for best part of 10-15 years and the #1 problem I come across when clients want help is that they've already decided what the solution is and want you to implement it. Most of the time I ask them to explain why they want to do it that way and I eventually get to the root of the problem and the solution usually takes another route.
Now the second I ask why, the guy gets defensive. What would you conclude from that? He doesn't want to tell me? Fair enough, I'm not willing to waste my time trying to help him. Why should I (in fact, why should anyone)?
He's well within his rights to hold his cards to his chest. In which case I'm well within *my* rights to suspect what I did. If his intentions were honest, he wouldn't have hesitated in the THREE times he replied when I asked him, not just the OP.
Bottom line: If you ask for help, expect questions. If you don't want to answer any, don't bother posting in the first place.
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 06, 2010, 03:01:00 AM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 5 2010, 02:40 PM)
There are any number of reasons, limited HDD space, likes to keep hard copy backups(isn't that one of the reason people mod?), banned xbox that can't install to the HD, no JTAG has to use disc. Any one of these is possible.
I for one would like to know if this can be patched to disc also as I cannot jtag my xbox thanks to M$ so I can't use xex and custom dashboards and the like. It'd be nice to be able to apply updates to an xbox that can't go on live anymore(mine is not banned, just the dvd is flashed)
It'd be cool to know if you can apply patches to the disc or get DLC into a disc for install or something like that. Some of us just prefer dvd over HDD
You *do* realise that the only reason files can be modified is because of the XeLL/JTAG exploit? Regardless of where they're read from, you still need a kernel which can execute unsigned code to read them? You're breaking the signature and an non-JTAG (regardless of firmware) console will just show it as corrupted data.
As for applying updates, anyone can download the updates from the MS website and put them on a memory stick. This has been possible for the past year. DLC is DRM / Media locked and won't play from anything apart from HDD/MU.
Your reasons:
Limited HDD Space - Just buy a bigger HDD. You can get a 1TB 3.5 SATA for around £60. This would keep you occupied for a long time and would hold more games than the discs you could purchase for it. Remember that all games have padding and once extracted take up less space than their optical media counterpart.
Hard copy backups - What are you talking about? You already have the original, yes? What more do you need? If you have a modded version on HDD and it goes kaput, you re-rip and re-mod it again.
Banned Xboxes that can't install to HDD - These can't be JTAG'd anyway!
No JTAG has to use disc - I have no idea what this means but judging by your other comments it's borne of not understanding what JTAG'ing is or how it works. You've just posted to side with the guy and actually given him no support whatsoever. Even if one of your reasons were valid, he could have stated when I asked. His refusal to answer says more than a reply ever could.
Post by: rkimbal45 on March 07, 2010, 11:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:01 AM)
You *do* realise that the only reason files can be modified is because of the XeLL/JTAG exploit? Regardless of where they're read from, you still need a kernel which can execute unsigned code to read them? You're breaking the signature and an non-JTAG (regardless of firmware) console will just show it as corrupted data.
As for applying updates, anyone can download the updates from the MS website and put them on a memory stick. This has been possible for the past year. DLC is DRM / Media locked and won't play from anything apart from HDD/MU.
Your reasons:
Limited HDD Space - Just buy a bigger HDD. You can get a 1TB 3.5 SATA for around £60. This would keep you occupied for a long time and would hold more games than the discs you could purchase for it. Remember that all games have padding and once extracted take up less space than their optical media counterpart.
Hard copy backups - What are you talking about? You already have the original, yes? What more do you need? If you have a modded version on HDD and it goes kaput, you re-rip and re-mod it again.
Banned Xboxes that can't install to HDD - These can't be JTAG'd anyway!
No JTAG has to use disc - I have no idea what this means but judging by your other comments it's borne of not understanding what JTAG'ing is or how it works. You've just posted to side with the guy and actually given him no support whatsoever. Even if one of your reasons were valid, he could have stated when I asked. His refusal to answer says more than a reply ever could.
No, I didn't realise, that's why I posted on a forum, why do you since you can't stand anyone who doesn't share your point of yiew or knowledge. Also, your right, I don't have a jtagged xbox, and I don't understand all the fundamentals of it, hence, posting in a forum, but even if I did have all the knowledge and hardware, I'd still prefer to have my games on disc. even if you think I"m trying to side with someone or jsut don't know what I'm talking about, some people like a hard backup. plus I haven't noticed any slow down when I play my backups from disc so I see no reason to spend money on a limited harddrive when I can have an unlmited supply of discs. and He didn't refuse to answer, He made perfect sense to me. There just isn't a deeper reason that you can understand. You don't like stuff on disc. So you don't have to use one. It doesn't mean anyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong and up to more no good than the rest of us. I honestly don't know for who having a patched disc would bad to have. if we had one, then you could use it to install to your very large hard drive and I could...put it in my xbox and play it and everyone would be happy.
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 07, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 7 2010, 06:44 PM)
1. No, I didn't realise, that's why I posted on a forum, why do you since you can't stand anyone who doesn't share your point of yiew or knowledge. Also, your right, I don't have a jtagged xbox, and I don't understand all the fundamentals of it, hence, posting in a forum, but even if I did have all the knowledge and hardware, 2. I'd still prefer to have my games on disc. even if you think I"m trying to side with someone or jsut don't know what I'm talking about, some people like a hard backup. plus I haven't noticed any slow down when I play my backups from disc so 3. I see no reason to spend money on a limited harddrive when I can have an unlmited supply of discs. and 4. He didn't refuse to answer, He made perfect sense to me. There just isn't a deeper reason that you can understand. You don't like stuff on disc. So you don't have to use one. 5. It doesn't mean anyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong and up to more no good than the rest of us. I honestly don't know for who having a patched disc would bad to have. 6. if we had one, then you could use it to install to your very large hard drive and I could...put it in my xbox and play it and everyone would be happy.
Then don't bother entering a discussion on something you don't understand. I've no idea why people do this - I wouldn't dream of jumping in on someone else's thread if I didn't have a clue on what was being discussed. Stay in the newbies section in future - it's there for people like you.
1. Using the excuse "I posted because I don't understand" is feeble. You don't post to gain understanding, especially when there are literally hundreds of posts already on the subject. Learn to read.
2. You should already have your games on disc. What's your point?
3. Again, why are you even discussing something you don't understand???
4.
QUOTE
why does it matter? i want what i want. its totally moot why i want what i want.
This is a refusal to answer. If this makes perfect sense to you, maybe you're as obtuse.
5. In this situation, there is no reason to want a copy on optical media - for the 3rd time, you don't understand the topic.
6. No you couldn't, unless yours was JTAG'd too. Yours isn't so once again (4th time), understanding is key.
Go away and don't bother replying until you understand what JTAGing is all about. There are plenty of threads on the subject and no excuse for not reading them.
Post by: Paler on March 08, 2010, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 09, 2010, 02:17:00 AM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
You would never get into a discussion unless you had all the information first? do a lot of reading do you? Discourse is an excellent way of learning. And no one should feel bad for asking a question, just cause you already know the answer. in fact, why read the forum at all if you don't like to hear opinions other than your own, actually scratch that, that is very understandable, it's good to get out the agression.
Damned right I wouldn't. It's ignorance at its highest, especially when you're asking on the INTERNET, which is the largest information repository on the planet.
Most of us acquired the knowledge we have by reading the literature already available to us (and spending a considerable amount of time doing so). To answer - YES, I do a helluva lot of reading. You need to in order to understand. Asking questions/discussing on subjects where the information is readily available, which is why I suggested you not return until you understand what you're talking about. Ignorance is no excuse - neither is lazyness.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
I didn't post cause I didn't understand. I participated in a discussion, cause I understand and agree with his point, which of course, to you means I'm a moron, which is fine, we aren't having an intelligent discussion or debate here.
You DON'T understand his point - that's the issue. I suggested he just copy the content to a DVD+R DL on the root of the disc as files/folders and run from XeXMenu. This WILL work for what he wants. This obviously wasn't enough for the guy which is why I asked the question.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
Well, my point is that it'd be cool to be able to get things like patches or dlc onto a usable disc, which of course isn't likely to happen as we've discussed already. I think his point was to patch the disc so he could not have to install all the updates to his HD.
QUOTE
i tried to patch a mw2 iso with the hacked files but it corrupted the iso because one file was larger than the original file.
Nothing about patching updates whatsoever. Note the word HACKED. He's talking about a version of MW2 to go online with and make money from others selling access to a console offering Prestige Mods. It's a shame I've had to paste it here as you should have read this before posting anything. I know fine well what he was looking to do. Whilst I may not agree with the principle, I understand people are doing it. I'm not going to help someone do it - that's my choice.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
That's how learning occurs.
It might be better to say I'm stupid or ignorant, obtuse usually implies that something is easy to understand and someone isn't understanding it or strongly in defiance of something that makes sense.
You entered a discussion on something you know little to nothing about. It's not a live conversation - you had the time and ability to read up on such things before posting (there are THOUSANDS of posts on JTAGing across the net) and still decided not to. That's pretty much the description of obtuse right there.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
At this point I understand it fine and still disagree with you, which for some reason, you find unfathomable and horrific. whether there is a reason or not is a point of preference, not fact. There is no factual evidence that their is no reason, just no reason you like.
It's obvious from your initial post you DON'T understand and that's my point. It's 'horrific' that in a domain with so much information available, people are so decidedly lazy they don't even bother to read what's already available to them. This belongs in the newbie section FFS.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
A few years ago I'm sure you told anyone who asked if you could play backups on an xbox360 that they were obtuse cause you can't do it and it's stupid to ask, but over time that changed.
You've made my point exactly here - it wasn't known at the time and there was no information on it happening. In this case it would have been ok to ask!! There's no excuse for ignorance now the information features on every single 3rd Party 360 website imaginable.
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 8 2010, 10:16 PM)
What I want to know is, why do you read peoples posts when you only want to talk to people who agree with you? I'm serious, I'm not trying to be a jerk, though I do admit I'm only arguing with you for the sake of itself. If you don't like this guy and you don't like me, and you think anyone who wants to have stuff on a disc instead of a hard drive is up to no good or obtuse, why talk at all?
I don't know you or the guy in the OP, so it's not a case of like/dislike. It's pretty immature to think I'm going to base an opinion on someone on a few forum posts - 20 years ago maybe, but certainly not now.
Like I already replied here and previously, I gave the guy the suggestion of putting the folders/files onto a DVD+R DL and run from XeXMenu would suffice. This wasn't enough (and he should've already known this was possible), hence my questions. If people are going to be offended (you including) on others asking questions on what they're trying to do, you shouldn't be here. You stand by the 'ask questions to gain information', so why doesn't it count both ways? I've already stated that I've worked in Solutions Development for many years and asking questions is paramount (when the information isn't already available) to finding a solution.
I really couldn't give a rat's arse if you agree with me or not - the fact you've admitted you're arguing for the sake of it pretty much sums you up, and me calling you obtuse was right on the nose.
QUOTE(Paler @ Mar 8 2010, 11:33 PM)
lol just stop fighting already you guys. Were here to help each other. The guy likes what he likes. I like having actual cd's too. Although in my Original Xbox I have a hard drive installed. Has anyone actually posted an answer on this thread? lol
Once again...
He should already have the original DVD - there is no need to re-write it to optical storage.
In fact, it's counter-productive since if any new hacks are released, he's got to go through the entire process again and rip/patch/build/burn. If he's not ripping from his original disc, chances of a re-rip working 100% are slim.
In spite of this, I already posted an answer which was obviously missed. Just copy the files/folders to a DVD+R DL and run through XeXMenu (or create a quickboot shortcut). The copy's only for him (as it should be), so there's no need for it to be redistributable.
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 09, 2010, 05:54:00 AM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 9 2010, 12:16 PM)
If it pisses you off to have to talk to people who are beneath you or your knowledge set, well nothing I say here is going to change that.
I'll say this in reply:
I TRIED discussion but the guy didn't want to converse. You then decide to join in the rumble and add NOTHING to thread apart from an excuse to bash me over my methods. If you want to bash someone, bash the OP who wouldn't let me help him. It's called thread-jacking, in case you were wondering.
If you want to take something away from this thread, I offer these points:
1. Don't jump into a conversation you know nothing about. Imagine two motor mechanics talking and you butt in to offer your tuppence worth with a stupid reply. Are they going to spend the next 2 hours/days/weeks bringing you up to speed? No. Don't expect as such on a forum. We have a newbies section for that, so post away in there and there are plenty of people to help point you in the right direction. This is a technical thread which neither the OP nor you are remotely qualified to be posting in. The reason you've gotten roasted is the information you're trying to argue is everywhere.
2. Don't be a hypocrite. Bashing me for asking questions and at the same time defending your thread-jacking with "we need to ask questions to learn" makes you look like a complete idiot. The tell-tale sign of someone arguing for the sake of it is constant bullshit. Frankly, your posts reek of it.
3. Take advice from someone who knows more than you. You could have just saved face and took the advice to go away and research, but when it's evident you didn't you just look stupid (and obtuse, which is still very fitting). See #1 for an example.
What pisses me off ? N00bs who don't know how to use a forum. I'll help you with any questions (and you'll see I help quite a few people in the newbies section) once you post as such in the newbies section. I'll send you links etc to help you out (as will others) but don't jump on someone else's thread for the sake of an argument.
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 09, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 9 2010, 02:53 PM)
1. believe what you believe, no one will ever change it.
2. see number 1
3. see number 2
4. Please don't help me in the noobie forum. I couldn't take your...helpfulness.
I don't need to believe anything. All three points are evident to anyone reading this thread.
Fact is people like you don't post in the newbie section, which increasingly frustrates those of us who are willing to help if you did.
Post by: Martinchris23 on March 09, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(rkimbal45 @ Mar 9 2010, 08:38 PM)
I could have done with out the hate speech
Then use a little courtesy next time and don't jump in on someone else's conversation just because you're spoiling for a fight!!!
Post by: chorizo1 on March 09, 2010, 04:46:00 PM