Post by: sean_2k5 on October 27, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
well the question of the day is why will some play wave 4 but the other wont all the same backup disk
p.s. i tried re flashing the 2 that don't play wave 4 and it did not work
Hitachi will just spin disk like crazy forever and the benq will not read activate.iso i put it in and no attempt to read it just straight to open tray but i put a wave 3 and under game in and it will work
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 27, 2009, 10:39:00 PM
but this might be in the wrong place if it is please move it but i thought it might be a firmware issue 
Post by: calloused on October 28, 2009, 05:52:00 AM
QUOTE(sean_2k5 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:15 AM) 
well i have 5 xbox 360's all mine 2 Hitachi a 79fl and 47 with 1.51 , 1 samsung ..don't remember it 1.6 , 2 benq 1.6 well any way my Hitachi 79fl and 1 of the benq will not play wave 4 games but the othere do with the help of the activate.iso disk except 49 it plays with out activate.iso
well the question of the day is why will some play wave 4 but the other wont all the same backup disk
p.s. i tried re flashing the 2 that don't play wave 4 and it did not work
Hitachi will just spin disk like crazy forever and the benq will not read activate.iso i put it in and no attempt to read it just straight to open tray but i put a wave 3 and under game in and it will work
At first I thought you were trying to use activate.iso with Hitachi .. but after reading again..
Sounds like the burn quality/media is suspect. Assuming the BENQ is flashed with 1.6./
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 28, 2009, 06:48:00 AM
Hitachi will just spin disk like crazy forever and the benq will not read activate.iso i put it in and no attempt to read it just straight to open tray but i put a wave 3 and under game in and it will work
but every activate.iso will work with the other 3 xbox 360's not the 2 that wont
Post by: iglitare on October 28, 2009, 08:22:00 AM
burn slower
buy a new burner (honestly)
Post by: CanBert on October 28, 2009, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: BoNg420 on October 28, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
use better media (verbatim ftw)
burn at 2.4x
Some of these might be your issue.
Post by: ps2moduk on October 28, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
I dont put it down to media unless you have changed things lately (burner/media??) Have you tried copying one of the games that does work onto the current batch of media to rule out media/burner problems?
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 28, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
QUOTE(CanBert @ Oct 28 2009, 04:33 PM)
Benq 1.6 -- activate.iso does nothing --- other benq 1.6 -- all good --- same firmware -- same activate.iso same drive one works one doesn't -- donno why --
well that is 100% correct
i have check the firmware i re flashed them both and i have thought it was the media i have 2 types of dl's disk here verbatim and memorex wasted a loth of them both for this i have 3 burners here a lg a samsung and a liteon which is my newest made a copy of both wave 4 games with all of them so that is 6 different copy's 3 with each media type.
every single 1 that can play they do which is 6 working copy's .... but the 2 that don't 1 of the benq's and 1 of the Hitachi's
it really makes me want to cry
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 28, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
so i guess i am going to say it is the drive for both of them instead of the firmware .... but the thing is when i put my original game in the 2 i paid cash for they wont boot ether they just spin up non stop even when the dashboard says "open tray" it still on both spins
like crazy on both of them could it be corrupted fw chip, bad sector on it
i got my backups from the net and the games from gamestop
Post by: ps2moduk on October 28, 2009, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 28, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ps2moduk @ Oct 28 2009, 11:40 PM)
Try spoofing one of the other drives to go in one of the machines not working. This will then tell you that it is definately the drives with the problem.
ok i spoofed them both of them come to find out it is bad drives
and i bet some noob out in the world has the same problem as me and he is getting yelled at on some forum saying he burning them wrong when it is the drive
Post by: totoz on October 29, 2009, 05:30:00 AM
this must be sticky everywhere
tested this thing so many times (thanks to the spoof method!)
amen
This post has been edited by totoz: Oct 29 2009, 12:30 PM
Post by: sean_2k5 on October 29, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
If you are trying to play a wave 4 game in a Hitachi 1.51 and you are 100% sure that you burnt it wright but wave 3 and under still play when you burn them it could be you have a bad dvd drive
Or if you have a Benq 1.6 and the activate.iso dvd don't work and you are 100% sure that you burnt it on the first layer of a DVD-DL and wave 3 and under still play you could have a bad dvd drive
The 2 drives in question have been:
Re-flashed to be original then back to ixtreme (which was re downloaded)
spoofed to be in different xbox 360's (did not work in other xbox's)
laser's cleaned and pots adjusted
And had:
different media tested verbatim and memorex
different burning software used Clone CD and imgburn
different burners used lg a samsung and a liteon
known working drive put in the xbox's to see if it worked to boot wave 4 (worked)
all media burnt worked in the other 3 xbox 360's
that is a lot of the same 2 backups laying around P.S. I will have both drives tested when 1.61 is out and post what happens
and i have ordered new benq's to replace the 2 dvd drives that don't work with wave 4
Post by: louisville 360 repair on November 01, 2009, 08:23:00 PM
Post by: jooker on November 22, 2009, 02:39:00 PM