Post by: jimbobjim on August 12, 2008, 05:06:00 AM
Is anyone alse gonna still bother with em? It seems like a smarter move to save your cash, buy a 120gb hdd, then backup your games to some cheap media that's a quarter of the price.
Post by: jimbobjim on August 12, 2008, 07:08:00 AM
Basically, buying three spindles of cheap discs will save me around £30... that's not bad at all.
Post by: shallow1 on August 12, 2008, 03:21:00 PM
QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 12 2008, 12:42 PM) 
It seems like a smarter move to save your cash, buy a 120gb hdd, then backup your games to some cheap media that's a quarter of the price.
That sounds like the smart move to me, as long as they copy over and boot reliably.
Post by: Toddler on August 13, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
Why would you bother burning a disc at all, just to take that backup and copy it to the 360 hard drive? You've got to read your original at least once either way. Sounds like a stupid plan to me.
Post by: Onimu on August 13, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: Spartiku5 on August 13, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Onimu @ Aug 13 2008, 11:00 PM)
How you guys copy the games in 120g and play from there? I want to know..
It's coming in the fall update m8 copy your games to HDD and just use the disk to "authorise" that you have the game
Post by: jimbobjim on August 14, 2008, 03:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Aug 13 2008, 01:53 PM)
Since you brought it up, I'll ask the obvious question--if you intend to copy the entire game to the hard drive, put the original back in the case and never touch it again, doesn't that eliminate the need to even burn backups?
Why would you bother burning a disc at all, just to take that backup and copy it to the 360 hard drive? You've got to read your original at least once either way. Sounds like a stupid plan to me.
You still need to insert the disc every time you play. Before you say "what's the point then?", playing from the hdd will speed up loading times, quieten the console and reduce drive wear.
Post by: jimbobjim on August 14, 2008, 04:39:00 AM
Unless your 360 is poor at reading cheap discs and consistantly scratches originals, there shouldn't be a a need for Verbs.
Post by: jimbobjim on August 14, 2008, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Onimu @ Aug 14 2008, 10:03 PM)
So, is it offical software built in to dump games data in 120g from M$? With the new console, we can't flash the drive. How can we run backup??
We can't... yet.
Post by: TheBestXboxModder on August 14, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: Toddler on August 17, 2008, 04:14:00 AM
Post by: jimbobjim on August 17, 2008, 04:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Toddler @ Aug 17 2008, 11:50 AM)
I'll say it again, it seems completely pointless to make backups when the disc will spin for about 5 seconds.
You never said that
You said "put the original back in the case and never touch it again" If your 360 drive doesn't scratch discs it should make no differnece whether it spins for 5 seconds or 5 hours. For me backups are essential because no matter how many times I try to teach my kids to be careful with discs, they still manage to end up looking like they've just been used as dinner plates.
Post by: 1nsan3 on August 21, 2008, 09:07:00 PM
now if m$ releases like a 1tb drive then that might be a bit worth it...
other wise i will stick with poping the disks in each time.. my old xbox 1 is still running like a champ dvd drive and hdd... by the time my 360 drive starts to go bad .. will have to buy another 360 anyways...
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 25, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
Post by: jimbobjim on August 27, 2008, 06:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Bearhug @ Aug 27 2008, 10:54 AM)
even on a 120gb HD your still only going to fit 17 or 18 games on there at max. With other content even less.
I see you came to that figure because you divided 120 by the size of a 360 iso (7gb) What you're forgetting is that most games are far smaller when you take only the data into account. Most of the iso is just padding and dummy files.
The average game is probably more like 3-4gb when you extract only the files, meaning you'll be able to fit nearer to 30 on your hdd.
I feel that 10 games would be enough on the hdd, but that's a personal choice.
Post by: Bearhug on August 28, 2008, 02:15:00 AM
QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Aug 27 2008, 02:24 PM)
I see you came to that figure because you divided 120 by the size of a 360 iso (7gb) What you're forgetting is that most games are far smaller when you take only the data into account. Most of the iso is just padding and dummy files.
The average game is probably more like 3-4gb when you extract only the files, meaning you'll be able to fit nearer to 30 on your hdd.
I feel that 10 games would be enough on the hdd, but that's a personal choice.
Fair point.
I guess the point I'm trying to get to is that having the HDD install in place, won't really make everyone decide they don't need to make backups anymore. Since you still have to use the disk anyway. If they or someone else ever introduces a full install with no disk requirement, then I'll be on board. I'd still have some issue with HDD size however, but can't imagine I'd need more than 30 games installed at any one time.