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Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 14, 2006, 05:35:00 PM

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MetaPhazes guide for backing up Xbox 360 Games
With Hitachi 47DJs (Possibly other Hitachi Drives)
V1.1 / 08-14-2006
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Index
1.) Tools Needed
2.) Intro
3.) Getting the SS.BIN
4.) Ripping the game with Wxripper
5.) CRC Errors
6.) Merging the ISO with the SS.BIN
7.) Burning
8.) Thank you

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Tools Needed
Patience (Yes, you need this!)
Drive Tools
Wxripper
Xbox 360 SS Merger
CloneCD

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Intro
This guide is to help people with OPA - Xtreme v2.1 firmware - Hitachi 7in1 firmware. Many are having problems not flashing the drive, but backing up their original game. Follow this guide and you should come out with a good backup that will play in your Xbox 360. I plan on updating this guide with pictures and more detailed information in the near future as time permits.

First thing is first you need to have your drive flashed with OPA - Xtreme v2.1 firmware - Hitachi 7in1 firmware. To do this follow the instructions included with the firmware in the !README! file.

If your having problems getting Windows to detect the Hitachi drive after the flash make sure to re-read the !README! file. As it states with the PC and Xbox 360 already off. Power on the Xbox 360 and eject the disc tray. For some reason on mine I have to push it twice. Once the tray is ejected unplug the power from the back of the Xbox 360. Now plug it back in, and power up the Xbox 360. With a successful flash this will put your Hitachi drive in Mode B.

Now at this point you should be able to see your Hitachi drive in Windows. Put your Xbox 360 game in to the Hitachi drive. You should see in My Computer that it says you have a XBOX360 game in your Hitachi drive.

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Getting the SS.BIN
Now we need to extract the SS information from the disc. To do this simply open up Drive Tools. Once drive tools is open you should see a button that says Get Security Sector. Click this button. This will now prompt you to safe the Security Sector file. You will want to name the file SS.BIN.

Now at your option you can remove the Xbox 360 from your computer, as you will no longer need it. Or you can leave it connected that is up to you. To remove it from your computer please power off the computer first, then power off the Xbox 360 and disconnect the SATA cable and the ground.

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Ripping the game with Wxripper
The next thing we need to do is dump the data off your original Xbox 360 game. To do this we need a spare DVD drive or your current one to take apart. Now I have not taken apart every DVD drive apart so I can't help you with your specific drive. I have taken apart Pioneers DVR105 and 111D and they work great. Basically remove the drive from your PC. Flip the drive upside down. You should now see 4-6 screws holding the bottom metal plate to the rest of the drive. Remove these screws. Take apart your DVD player so you no longer have the top half of the DVD drive. Hopefully you have a magnetic system to hold your DVD in your DVD drive. To find out take the small circle piece (may be part of a smaller metal plate inside the drive) and hold it over the black circular part that your DVD disc sits on. If its magnetic your all set to go, if its mechanical good luck, I couldn't get my other mechanical drive DVD drive to hold the disc down it kept flying out of the drive.

Now that you have the drive apart replace by just setting the drive on the bottom metal plate that you took off first so you have it sitting on a good surface. Reconnect the drive to your computer (obviously leaving it outside of your computer so you can access it.

Now you need to run wxripper to rip the game. To do this place a large DVD movie in your DVD drive. I used Empire which is 7.9GB. Some say the DVD has to be 8GB or larger, but I've had success with DVD Movies as small as 7.4GB.

Once you have inserted the DVD Movie in to your DVD drive start wxripper.

You should now see wxripper opened on your desktop and should look something like this;

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/metaphaze/x360/wxripperstart.jpg)

Now click the drop down box to select the drive that the movie is inserted in to.

Then under the hotswap drop down menu select "Find Magic Number". You should now see a bunch of information populate the large box in the middle.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/metaphaze/x360/wxripperhotswapmenu.jpg)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/metaphaze/x360/wxrippermagicnumber.jpg)

Now go back to the hotswap drop down menu and select Stop Drive. Your drive should now stop spinning. Do not attempt to remove a DVD from the drive while its spinning.

At this point you need to remove the DVD movie WITHOUT EJECTING THE DISC. To do this simply remove the magnet holding down the DVD movie and replace it with your Xbox 360 game, then replace the magnet again. Now click Spin drive, the drive should spin back up again.

Now we can begin dumping the Xbox 360 Disc. I say disc because we are not just dumping the game, we are dumping the whole disc, game, video, audio, and the blank sectors of the disc. To do this click the File drop down menu and Start Dump, and save the file. If you have no CRC errors skip ahead to the SS merger section.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/metaphaze/x360/wxripperdone.jpg)

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CRC Errors
If you have CRC errors don't fret not all is lost like I original thought. The first thing that is most important is MAKE SURE THE ORIGINAL XBOX 360 GAME IS CLEAN! I can't stress this enough. Most of all my CRC errors were caused by smudges and scratches on my original game. If you still get CRC errors then we need to make some changes to Wxripper. Once your done dumping the game and wxripper has returned CRC errors go to the File drop down menu in wxripper and select "Save layout file". Now open the layout file with Notepad, it should look like this;

QUOTE

C19408
D1072
C109344
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

Now please read Psoff's description on CRC errors and how to correct them, if you don't understand what he has said keep reading to my explanation on how to edit.

QUOTE(Psoff)

Hey everyone. Here are some quick tips for people getting CRC errors on certain games using wxRipper.

Regarding the layout file:

- Usually the first 3 lines are like this:

* C19408
* D1072
* C109344

- People say to change them to this (bold represents the changes):

* D19408 <- D = Dummy instead of C (Copy)
* D1072 <- Same as original
* D109344 <- D= Dummy instead of C (Copy)

In this case, all you're doing is 'faking' the first three lines. I figured out that 9 out of 10 problems occur at the 3rd line, so that's really the only one you need to Dummy. Therefore:

- Most of the time this will work (bold represents the only change):

* C19408 <- Same as original
* D1072 <- Same as original
* D109344 <- D = Dummy instead of C (Copy)

This way you get more of the original information. I'm not sure if this matters, but I say more is better when it comes to duplicating a game.

If you want to go even further:

- Since I noticed most people (myself included) occasionally get a CRC error at 91136, escpeically on games like Tomb Raider and Hitman, I use this layout (replace first 3 lines with these 4):

* C19408 <- Same as orignal
* D1072 <- Same as orignal
* C91135 <- Original used to be C109344, which I split into 2 parts, stopping at 1 byte before my CRC error @ 91136
* D18209 <- Dummy the remainder of the part that gives the error. 18209 (this line) + 91135 (previous line) = 109344 (original number)

Hope this helps!

What Psoff is saying in the last section is take the third line in the layout file which should be 109344 and subtract the number that gave you the error in the case he is describing that would be 91135 (he got the error at 91136). If you do the math

109344 - 91135 = 18209.

Now that we have those two number the number right before the error and the diffrence we need to edit the layout file.

So edit the third line C109344 and put in C91135 in its place. Then ADD THIS LINE inbetween the third and fourth line D18209 (the diffrence).

Once you have made the adjustments to the layout file go back to wxripper and click the file drop down menu and select open layout file. You should now see at the top of wxripper it says you have the layout file selected. Now re-dump the game.

This method has corrrected the problems with the two games I had problems ripping Hitman & Dead Rising (besides the dirty ones) Below you will find a copy of my layout file for each of those games.

Dead Rising Layout file

QUOTE

C19408
D1072
C89087
D20257
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

Hitman Layout file

QUOTE

C19408
D1072
C91135
D18209
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

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Merging the ISO with the SS.BIN
Now at this point you should have two files. A SS.BIN and a game.iso. Now we need to merge these two files together. To do this open Xbox 360 SS Merger. Click the buton next to ISO file and select your game.iso. Then click the buton next to SS file. Finally click Merge and create layer break file. Once completed you should now have a game.dvd file.

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/metaphaze/x360/ssmerger.jpg)

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Burning
At this point your all set for burning. Open up CloneCD select Write to a disc, and select the game.dvd file. Burn it at the slowest speed (2.4x) with DVD+R DL Media. I have only used a Pioneer DVR111D to burn my X360 games. So I can not comment on other DVD Burners and Booksetting issues. However one misconception I want to clear up right now is you do not need a special firmware on your 111D drive despite what everyone keeps telling you. The proof is in the pudding, I have backed up successfully 9 of my original Xbox 360 games without issues using my 111D with the old stock firmware.

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Thank You
People listed here are thanked in no specific order for helping me get to this point;
GaryOpa, Psoff, Gabbiani, creators of the tools used, and everyone on Xbox-Scene.com for contributing information. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask in this thread. Please do not PM me with question.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on August 14, 2006, 06:42:00 PM

looks good... after a few member posts stating it works, i will throw it in the backup FAQ for the first hitatchi game backup tutorial!

nice job.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 14, 2006, 07:05:00 PM

QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Aug 14 2006, 07:49 PM)

looks good... after a few member posts stating it works, i will throw it in the backup FAQ for the first hitatchi game backup tutorial!

nice job.

Thanks for the positive remarks! I'm positive anyone who follows this guide will be able to burn games that will play on their Hitachi, 100% sure.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: FatSean on August 14, 2006, 11:30:00 PM

I just opened up my 110D again hoping that you can help. I am using a 7.95gb (which was supposedly filled to the red line in nero with data) data backup as my swap disc. I am trying to back up Moto GP.

I find this is a very frustrating method because even if I get CRC errors, wxripper still wants to proceed and try ripping the rest of the disc, which is a long process. And there's no way to stop it. So bear with me.

Here are the results of my first run, without any modifications to the layout file.

C19408
D1072
C109344
C1783936
J345536
C1783936
J0

Found magic number : 345536
2:00:34 AM -> Start
Error @ 0 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

Error @ 11264 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

Error @ 93184 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

Error @ 524288 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

2:11:14 AM -> Done

Output file is 1.20Gb.

So I modify the layout file and try it again. Second try:

D19408
D1072
D109344
C1783936
J345536
C1783936
J0

Well, this time its giving me a lot more trouble. The drive spins up, the laser goes back and forth accross the disk and seems like its searching for something, and then spins back down. Then it spins back up, starts searching again, and eventually spins back down. Not sure whats going on or why its having trouble. The drive works flawleslly for normal things. The disc is brand new and doesn't have a single scratch or smudge. It does this for about 5 minutes and then gives up.

Found magic number : 345536
2:16:17 AM -> Start
Error @ 0 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

Error @ 0 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

2:20:08 AM -> Done

Output file is 253mb. See why I hate wxripper?

This post has been edited by Chancer: Aug 15 2006, 07:33 AM

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 14, 2006, 11:56:00 PM

I've noticed in the past when the laser goes back and forth all is lost and its time to try again. If you could post a Screen Shot of your wxripper session with the errors it would probably help me a bit more since its 0147. But anyway try this lay out and see if it works;

QUOTE

D19408
D1072
D109344
C524287
D1259649
J345536
C1783936
J0

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Ahrimanes on August 15, 2006, 08:42:00 AM

How do I know the DVD is large enough?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 15, 2006, 09:14:00 AM

QUOTE(Ahrimanes @ Aug 15 2006, 09:49 AM)

How do I know the DVD is large enough?

Gael360 the creator of wxripper original stated you needed a DVD ~7.5GB. Now others are suggesting 8GB. I have been successful with 7.9GB DVD.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Ahrimanes on August 15, 2006, 10:00:00 AM

QUOTE(metaphaze @ Aug 15 2006, 05:21 PM)

Gael360 the creator of wxripper original stated you needed a DVD ~7.5GB. Now others are suggesting 8GB. I have been successful with 7.9GB DVD.

I first tryed a 7.3GB disc and wxripper prompted that it wasn't large enough, then I tryed a 7.44GB disc and I could get the magic number. Does that mean it is large enough? Or is it impossible to know before you have a working backup disc?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 15, 2006, 09:26:00 AM

QUOTE(Ahrimanes @ Aug 15 2006, 10:31 AM)

I would say the 7.44GB disc would work, but I would still try to find one larger.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Blietzkreig on August 15, 2006, 08:42:00 PM

My question is: Do you HAVE to take the ripping DVD drive apart ?
Can't you just use the emergency eject using a paperclip in the hole trick ?
I dont like the thought of dismantling my new still under warranty Pioneer-111D, or my existing Lite-On DVD burner or buying another drive just for this purpose.
Thanks.

P.S. Great tutorial Metaphaze by the way. You have given us Hitachi owners hope. I am at 0-5 at the moment. That is - zero working back-ups from 5 attempts (using Lite-On Burner with TDK Media NOT new Pioneer)

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 15, 2006, 10:20:00 PM

QUOTE(Blietzkreig @ Aug 15 2006, 09:49 PM)

Some people have been able to get the emergency eject method to work. So you can try it, with the Pioneer 111D I couldn't get the drive to eject (but I couldn't find a paper clip either).

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Blietzkreig on August 15, 2006, 11:57:00 PM

Thanks for the prompt reply Metaphaze.

I have since done some further research on this matter and the results seem inconclusive.

Some say it is OK to use paperclip, some say No - it will damage your burner (particularly the laser assembly)

So in short - use the paperclip method at your own risk !

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Overloaded on August 16, 2006, 12:13:00 AM

For those few that are still having problems after using this guide i you might want to try a larger dvd movie.

i use Terminator 2 and Sin City both of which are 8.4gb in size. and as far as all the read errors instead of Dummying the 1st 3 sections change your D's to J's and just JUMP over the video partition. the rip will be faster as wxripper will only grab the game data from layer1 and layer2.

When you load this finished gamename.iso that you just ripped into ss merger it will be seen as an extreme type of iso and merger will add its own padded video partition back into it for you.

i had problems with tomb raider and a few other games using DUMMY, DUMMY,DUMMY but after changing the 1st 3 to JUMP i havent had another problem.

This post has been edited by Overloaded: Aug 16 2006, 07:14 AM

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 16, 2006, 02:19:00 PM

QUOTE(Overloaded @ Aug 16 2006, 01:20 AM)

For those few that are still having problems after using this guide i you might want to try a larger dvd movie.

Did you use this guide to make backups?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Overloaded on August 16, 2006, 02:33:00 PM

QUOTE(metaphaze @ Aug 16 2006, 09:26 PM)

Did you use this guide to make backups?

everyone that already knows how to make backups does it the same 2 ways either extreme or wxripper. none of which need to read your tutorial because we all use the same steps and processes to do the job.

nice guide but you just gathered the same info from other post and nfo file information to put it together and make a guide with your name on it.

hope you dont get bothered by me saying that for it is an honest statement and not to be meant as a flame in any way.

you put it all in 1 place for all to see at once:)

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 16, 2006, 04:37:00 PM

QUOTE(Overloaded @ Aug 16 2006, 03:40 PM)

I'm not bothered at all. Your exactly right, I didn't bring any new information to the table, just compiled the information in one place to make it easier for the new guy so he dosn't have to spend 3hrs on each step searching the forums for every step and eventualality.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: KUNFUCHOPSTICKS on August 16, 2006, 04:52:00 PM

you want to make it into pdf fornmat? we all love .pdfs

i can do it if you want

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: metaphaze on August 16, 2006, 08:36:00 PM

QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Aug 16 2006, 05:59 PM)

you want to make it into pdf fornmat? we all love .pdfs

i can do it if you want

Please do!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: HMAWL411 on August 17, 2006, 11:47:00 PM

nice guide metaphaze i know what you mean by the searching thing, it took me forever to figure out the wxripper method, then even longer casue the paper-clip method wouldnt work with my drive, then i had crc errors, it jus took forever, this would have been very nice to have a week ago.

QUOTE(KUNFUCHOPSTICKS @ Aug 16 2006, 06:59 PM)

you want to make it into pdf fornmat? we all love .pdfs

i can do it if you want

why does everyone like pdfs? i hate them, it takes forever for them to open up in firefox or adobe reader.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on August 17, 2006, 11:12:00 PM

QUOTE(HMAWL411 @ Aug 18 2006, 12:18 AM)

why does everyone like pdfs? i hate them, it takes forever for them to open up in firefox or adobe reader.

TOTALLY agree... i think thats why geebee moved to a .DOC

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: HMAWL411 on August 18, 2006, 12:11:00 AM

yes i was so happy when i seen the new version of his guide was a .doc i was sick of the pdf

edit: sorry bit off-topic

This post has been edited by HMAWL411: Aug 18 2006, 07:12 AM

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: CDL0012 on August 20, 2006, 07:09:00 AM

With the Pioneer 111D you do not need to take this apart to rip the xbox 360 game. You can just use the eject pin hole. I have 2 of these drives, and this method works perfect with both!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Nightou on August 22, 2006, 05:31:00 PM

I've notice a few things...

The first is that with drive tools, if you extract the ss.bin more than 1 time, you won't get the exact same thing than the first time . Is that normal ??

And with wxripper, i get A LOT of CRC error, and i must change almost evry C for a D. Will it works ??

There's the new layout that o have for MLB 2K6

D19408
D1072
D109344
D1783936
J335360
C1783936
J0

My game.iso is 7 572 881 408 octets

After i've run bat360 to create a image.000, and the size is 7 838 760 960 octets.

On the dashboard, when i've put the disc in my xbox, it gaves me the exact same result than last time. It says reading, and after 3-4 minutes, it says unrecognized disc.

If i start the xbox with the game already inside, it freeze mabye 3-4 minutes on the xbox logo, it says unrecognized disc too

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: receipt on August 27, 2006, 01:02:00 PM

I can't even get wxripper to install or much less ssmerger I get the same error message for both applications:

The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application.

I have tried to install on 3 computers and had the problem. Is there something I am doing wrong?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: HMAWL411 on August 27, 2006, 04:38:00 PM

it doesnt install to your computer really, the exe just runs the program, your probably getting that error because you dont have .net installed.

go to the MS download center and look for .net

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: receipt on August 27, 2006, 05:52:00 PM

QUOTE(HMAWL411 @ Aug 27 2006, 04:45 PM)

it doesnt install to your computer really, the exe just runs the program, your probably getting that error because you dont have .net installed.

go to the MS download center and look for .net

That solved the problem, thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: IntestineMan on August 28, 2006, 11:03:00 AM

QUOTE(Nightou @ Aug 23 2006, 12:38 AM)

I've notice a few things...

The first is that with drive tools, if you extract the ss.bin more than 1 time, you won't get the exact same thing than the first time . Is that normal ??

Yes I noticed that, doing a fc (file compare) on different dumps will show that a few bytes change each time I used getss.exe (at least it did on the game I was backing up). I found that Drive Tools was the same result/problem. I decided to merge one of those ss bins I dumped with Drive Tools anyways and the resulting backup still worked!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: receipt on August 29, 2006, 07:04:00 PM

QUOTE(IntestineMan @ Aug 28 2006, 11:10 AM)

Could I use a ss.bin that matched the numbers it said I needed if it game from another game. My Call of Duty ss matches with what the PAL version of Prey needed would that be a waste of a disk or can I essential use that ss each time as long as it was matching?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: arcane100 on September 01, 2006, 05:23:00 PM

Great Tutorial Thx, a couple of hardware hick ups along the way for me but I have my Hit 47DJ playing ball now , thx again

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: wbrault on September 04, 2006, 05:02:00 PM

Trying to backup my retail copy of Madden 07

Getting the crc errors

Using my PC dvd drive, I only have 2 games I can backup. All others fail.

This is the output im getting as it trys to dump the game

Found magic number: 302336
Error @ 89088

Error @ 0

Error @ 1544192

done

Here is the layout it was using

Copy 0 19408 done
Dummy 19408 1072 done
Copy 20480 109344 89088
Copy 129824 1783936 0
Jump 1913760 302336 done
Copy 2216096 1783936 1544192
Jump 4000032 0 done

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: shpankey on September 08, 2006, 03:28:00 PM

sweet, this worked for me. i backed up Oblivion finally.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: praxi on September 11, 2006, 12:59:00 AM

Just wanted to mention, maybe it will help others. I was getting error @ 0 CRC errors, and nothing else. Essentially what was happening, my drive wouldn't spin backup if I hit hotswap stop. Just ejected the disk w/out stopping that seems to have fixed it. Noisy as hell, and I some times think the disk is going to fly out and slice up my house, but it worked.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: anomaly30 on September 11, 2006, 11:31:00 AM

First off, great guide. Thanks.

Second, when I do get CRC errors I usually get it in 2 places not just one. (I believe a previous poster mentioned this as well).
I used the guide to split the errors (meaning 109344 - 91135 = 18209) and I do the same thing with the second CRC error I get. I can't remember the exact number but it is something like 1510815. So I split that one in the layout file as well.

This method gave me a working backup copy of my Prey original. I have noticed the 2 CRC errors with Tomb Raider as well but I have not burned it to a DVD yet to see if it will work.

Just wanted to let others know that, so far, this method is working for me.

I am using Verbatim media and a Pioneer burner.

A.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: anomaly30 on September 12, 2006, 08:03:00 AM

Okay well, I backed up Tomb Raider the same way I backed up Prey but Tomb Raider does not work. The initial screen does comes up when loading but then I get an error stating that I should clean the disk.

I have tried to back it up twice. Wxripper works fine once I correct for the CRC errors. I am using Verbatim media and a Pioneer 111D burner.

Does anyone have a suggestion about what might be the issue here?

I have backed up 3 games that gave me CRC errors with wxripper and all 3 backups work fine. But for some reason I just can't get Tomb Raider to work.

I have a Hitachi drive also.

I have searched the forums and the only suggestions I can find are telling me to do what I have already done. Which is to 'dummy' out where the CRC error occurs or to split the difference (which is what I do).

Anyway, any help people can provide regarding this one game would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

A.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Jobeesh on September 13, 2006, 10:09:00 PM

I'm trying to burn Project Gotham on my 360 using this method. I get the rip successfully as well as the SS file, merge the two in SS merger 1.6 and burn the whole assembly using imgburn. I can't seem to get a good disk, however, even with my attempts to change the bitset on my drive for the DVD+DL. I am using a Nec drive which is notorious for not being very compatable but is it possible that the fact that my DVD is only 7.8gb is messing up my rip. Maybe something else is messing up my rip or my merge? Or is it most likely that it's the DVD burner. By the way, when I put the disk I burn in I get a dirty disk error.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: tinytimie18 on September 13, 2006, 11:38:00 PM

Wxripper problem. When i try to run wxripper i get an . NET Framework error, says i need ver. 2.0.5727. but i checked and mines only 1.1xxx. So how do i change upgrade or what do i do to fix this? Any help would be appreciated thanks.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Jobeesh on September 14, 2006, 08:22:00 AM

Just download the .net update from Microsoft's website

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: tinytimie18 on September 14, 2006, 10:25:00 AM

QUOTE(Jobeesh @ Sep 14 2006, 08:53 AM)

Just download the .net update from Microsoft's website

Thanks for the help, usually when i check for updates i select express. but i selected coustom and their it was. thanks again

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: wafflezone on September 15, 2006, 11:37:00 PM

I edited a layout file as follows for use with Madden 07 and Test Drive (they seem to give the same CRC errors)

CODE

C19408
D1072
C89087
D20257
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

I changed it with notepad but when I "load" it in wxRipper it doesn't seem to change anything. What do I need to do to make the layout work?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: axess68 on September 16, 2006, 11:23:00 PM

This is THE guide I used to make my own backups.

Much credit where credit is due to Metaphaze!! Well done!! Many thanks for writing this up!!

Especially the bit about Tomb Raider Legend! That CRC error was bugging me!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Jobeesh on September 17, 2006, 05:59:00 PM

QUOTE(axess68 @ Sep 17 2006, 01:30 AM)

This is THE guide I used to make my own backups.
Much credit where credit is due to Metaphaze!! Well done!! Many thanks for writing this up!!

Especially the bit about Tomb Raider Legend! That CRC error was bugging me!

I totally agree man. Metaphaze, you are all cliches relating to coolness/sweetness/awesomeness.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Analyzer52 on September 17, 2006, 11:19:00 PM

My drive shows up in windows fine and has been flashed but I can't get Drive Tools to let me extract the security sector it is grayed out and not able to click it but i can click the other stuff like save firmware or get drive key. What would cause this? Drive is a 47DH.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: tinytimie18 on September 18, 2006, 03:22:00 PM

Same problem with my 47DH, guess its not supported. Also have TS-H943 flashed with Xtream 3.3 but cant get enable 0800 to work? So right now i cant get the SS i need

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Jobeesh on September 18, 2006, 03:24:00 PM

Every time I have to modify my layout file (IE when I was burning a backup of Dead Rising or Hitman) my burned disk is not recognized by the xbox. I've already successfully burned backups of Need for Speed and PGR3, both of which required no modifications to the layout and both of which worked immediately.
I copied both layout files off of this forum. However, my Dead Rising disk was getting another error at 15360 so I adapted my layout file accordingly. Here are the two layout files I was using:

QUOTE

Hitman: (directly copied from the site and ripped with no errors)
C19408
D1072
C91135
D18209
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

QUOTE

Dead Rising:(slightly modified for my error, also ripped with no errors)
C19408
D1072
C89087
D20257
C1783936
J309536
C15359
D1768577
J0

If anybody can explain to me why my xbox won't read these disks that would be wonderful. Thanks in advance for your help.

PS. I'm not using clone CD to burn, it won't work. I'm using Imgburn.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: lesslinger on September 23, 2006, 08:54:00 PM

QUOTE(Jobeesh @ Sep 18 2006, 08:55 PM)

Leave all untouched. the only line you have to chance is the third one. change the C to a D. that is it. it worked for my dead rising.

Now just wish i could extract my ss files. it use to work but now it doesnt. have hitachi drive and used drive tools and getss.exe. dont know what happened. Any suggestions?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: DV8ORMODS on September 24, 2006, 05:59:00 AM

I am using this same method I to cannot get a good backup of round 3
1.wxripper load finding nemo then find magic number get number insert game after stopping drive
open wx360 see files then wxripper dump game to game.iso get that now i start the merger process and 1.7b has these options when i open the game.iso file i get this is too big iso for wxripper and smaller than xtreme or vice verse not sure then i press some other buttons off and it says something to the fact about md5 nme something and then it finishes after merge then i burn the new file in clone cd and it states put this in a 360 console when loaded
Is there anyway touse build360.bat to merge the files then burn the image or is this not compatible with wxripper i have used this on the samsung and it works everytime
I have 47dj
opa 2.1
usb to sata sabrent newegg.com 21.00
executor adapter 1.1 modchipman.com useles needs more functionality
laptop 1.5 gig
512 megabit

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: 4WDrift on October 13, 2006, 02:49:00 PM

So far I have been unsucsessfull in backing up my only game Project Gotham Racing 3

My V59 Hitachi is flashed with 8in1. It enters mode b and is recognised by XP no problem.

I am wondering if my problem is my extracted SS.bin, I NEVER get the same MD5 sum as the peeps online from XBOX 360 merger 1.7b.

My "MD5 sum" is consistently the same from try to try (every ss.bin I have made) but It is not the one Merger says others are using. Why is my sum different? Is this why all my backup atempts have not worked?

how can I troubleshoot my process? Would like to burn a good one for a change!

Using Verbatim dvd+R DL 2.4 with Samsung SH-H128M burner. WXripper w/kingkong swap disk. No CRC errors. SATA = mobo Nvidia. used Imageburn to write. (have DL of Clone DVD / will install & try that next time)

see any red flags?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: c2sky on October 14, 2006, 10:54:00 AM

First of all, Do you have to connect your xbox 360 to your PC to do the SS thing?
This tutorial here doesn't mention this part where you connect your xbox to the PC?
So can it still be done with one this step?
http://www.clevermod.com/index.php?article=12

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: 1337 pig on October 15, 2006, 05:26:00 PM

QUOTE(c2sky @ Oct 14 2006, 11:25 AM)

yes u need your sata from your computer hooked up to your drive(obviously

)

But anyways this tut works great. Awesome job Metaphaze!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: babe69 on October 22, 2006, 05:23:00 PM

method work perfectly !!

using the lotr return of the king with perfect dark zero.

my dvd writer was a mechanical but you can do it by replacing the cover ,to let the plastic button on top of the cover maintening the disk.

simple and easy

thx

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: xboxmunky on November 04, 2006, 11:59:00 AM

Hey guys, listen ive tried this method and everything seems to run smoothly but when i pop it in my 360 a white screen comes up and it tells me to put this game in an xbox 360 console. can someone tell me what im doing wrong i would really appreciate it

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: xboxmunky on November 04, 2006, 12:24:00 PM

I opened the disk with my hitachi. got the ss.bin, used the formula and didnt get any crc errors, because i used that formula that seemed to work, merged the ss.bin with the game, says it was successful, than i burn with dvd decrypter . sayd it burned succefully than i pop it in my 360 and it says, put this game in an xbox 360 console with a whole bunch of chinese writing . confused what am i doing wrong there are no errors it seemes when im doing this process

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Payback001 on November 04, 2006, 05:35:00 PM

I keep getting wrong volume error and it tell me to put back in the DVD movie. any ideas on what to do. i have bine trying evething to make a 360 backup nothing work . so hopefully someone had this problem and can help.

Thank you
Payback001

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Zyvax on November 05, 2006, 05:21:00 AM

Ok, I am an absolute newb and know very little about this scene as I just got interested 3 days ago when I stepped on a disc and broke it. From what I have learned in the last 3 days I have a feeling that this tutorial is flawed as well as the wxRipper program itself. I am in no way trying to say I know more than anybody, I am just trying to help us all but if I am wrong then scrap everything I say here...

Every disc has a table of contents(TOC) at the beginning of the disk that tells the drive how big the disk is and what is on it. Xbox 360 games have a fake TOC at the beginning which trick any non xbox 360 drive into thinking its a small disk with some sort of DVD video on it. By swaping the disc in the wxRipper method you are simply grabing the TOC of a large movie and using it to grab the contents of the 360 disc which is why it needs to be bigger than the game. Its like a book, if you use the TOC of a smaller book that has 8 chapters to grab the info of a book that has 12 chapters you will miss the last 4 chapters because your TOC doesn't say they are there. Anyway, some games have 1 or more blank(dummy) sections somewhere in the middle of the disc which are causing read errors for us wxRipper users. Your movie TOC looks something like this

C19408
D1072
C109344
C1783936
J309472
C1783936
J0

but thats just a TOC for your movie and where there are dummy sections on that movie does not mean they are there on your game disc so when you change the first 3 lines in any TOC you may get away with it because your 360 game happens to have a fake movie dummy section at the beginning of the disc so skipping that data may not cause any problems with your game but now in this tutorial you are also skipping sections in the middle of the disc as well. You do know that when you get an error at something like C80886 of line 3 that you must have hit a dummy section of the disc and your tutorial here uses the solution "skip the rest of that section" but what if the dummy section was very small and now you have skipped some game data as well. who knows what this is gonna do to your game, it might boot fine and freeze half way through the game, it may not boot at all, it may get dirty disk errors. I think the only solution is to rewrite wxRipper to handle any read errors and flag that little byte of data as a dummy and attempt to continue where it left off. Again, I want to say that all this is based on what I have read over the last 3 days and I am a complete newb to this so maybe my theory is wrong.

Sorry for the long post and I hope this helps some how.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Payback001 on November 05, 2006, 11:19:00 PM

QUOTE(Zyvax @ Nov 5 2006, 12:52 PM)

Wow and no one has said anything about this?????

nice info man

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: cyberdork33 on November 06, 2006, 07:03:00 AM

QUOTE(Zyvax @ Nov 5 2006, 07:52 AM)

I think the only solution is to rewrite wxRipper to handle any read errors and flag that little byte of data as a dummy and attempt to continue where it left off.

This is the other way to backup games using isobuster. it tries to copy the data bit by bit, and if an error is found, it fills it with dummy data, then continues to the next bit. This process is MUCH longer because it has to check every bad bit on the disc.

the layout file for wxripper basically tells the drive to skip over the sections where we know that there is no useful data (or fill it with dummy data). Running into new "bad bits" is what causes wxripper to fail and the reason you can edit the layout. You can tell the drive to skip (or dummy) certain sectors.

What would be nice is a program that would rip bit by bit like ISO buster, but "map" the sectors, ultimately creating a layout file that could be shared with others.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: stupididiot on November 06, 2006, 09:23:00 PM

thanks METAPHAZE

i use this layout file to all of my backups so i don't have to wait for errors/do over again

C19408
D1072
C89087
D20257
C1783936
J309536
C1783936
J0

works like a charm and never fails....
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by stupididiot: Nov 7 2006, 05:24 AM

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: xboxmunky on November 07, 2006, 02:54:00 PM

i have no idea what im doing wrong i did everything it said and it seems to run smoothly but when i pop in my 360 it says put this game in an xbox 360 console. does anyone else have this problem?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: mjg on November 12, 2006, 05:01:00 PM

Just bought Fifa 07 and i am trying to make a back up. I have a 47dj, WXRipper is the program i am using. I changed my layout file to :

Copy 0 19408
Dummy 19408 1072
Copy 20480 89088
Dummy 109568 20256
Copy 129824 1783936
Jump 19113760 346304
Copy 2260064 1783936
Jump 4044000 0

I used the layout above due to a crc error @ 89088 (could have been 89089).
I got the CRC error 89088 using this layout file below:

C19408
D1072
C91135
D18209
C1783936
J320576
C1783936
J0

So now i put my Fifa07 Xbox 360 game into the drive and at the second to last line i get an error in Wxripper while using the first layout file above:

Error @ 1780736 : Data Error (CRC).

It happens at LBA 2260064. Then it finishes and says complete.

Has anyone else had this error? And if so how can i fix it?

P.S. I have not burned the image to a disc yet due to the fact that the discs can be pricy to make a coaster.

Cheers to those that read this.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: stormz on November 13, 2006, 02:34:00 PM

well i followed this method, using the pioneer111d with original stock firmware (1.23) and verbatim DVDs. i used a lord of the rings DVD ( about 7.4gb) and it worked first time. i tried another method using isobuster and it failed but this guide was spot on. thanks

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: shutdown77 on November 16, 2006, 04:14:00 PM

I followed this tutorial step by step and got through everything except the burn. I successfully dumped my game, merged the ss files and now I'm stuck with coasters. I am trying to backup my copy of TopSpin2. I have a Pioneer 111D, Verbatim DVD+r DL 2.4, asus mobo, and tried both CloneCd and ImgBurn. When I use CloneCd the dvd drive's busy light goes off after about 2% and the time left says: "Unknown" When I use ImgBurn I immediately get : I/O Error.... Interpretation: Check Condition and few numbers then Interpretation: Write (10)- Sectors 25888-25919, and then a bunch of "Invalid Address for Write". If anyone has had a similar problem and got past this I could really use the help. Thanks.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: WinnipegWork on November 16, 2006, 05:03:00 PM

Alright I managed to get the top off and switch the disk however after I tried to dump the game off using wxripper i was getting an error where I have the wrong media in and to put back "sin city" (the movie I put in) I'm trying to dump nhl 2007 and sin city is 7.8gb. Is it because I need a bigger dvd or did I do something wrong?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: 1337 pig on November 16, 2006, 05:09:00 PM

QUOTE(WinnipegWork @ Nov 16 2006, 06:10 PM)

Did u get the magic number?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: WinnipegWork on November 16, 2006, 05:30:00 PM

QUOTE(1337 pig @ Nov 17 2006, 01:16 AM)

Did u get the magic number?

Yeah I did

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: rameysblackbelt on November 18, 2006, 04:25:00 PM

WHAT IS SO NEW IN THE XBOX 360 SS MERGER 1.2 THEN THE 1.6
AND DO WE USE THE VERYTOP LINE I SEEN IN THIS THREAD SOMEONE DONT USE IT

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: lilpete on December 31, 2006, 05:35:00 PM

Worked perfectly for Rainbow six Vegas. Just got this game and wanted to see if this really worked with my Hitachi 46DH and yes it does. Although i have 3 coasters so far trying to back my Gears of War...

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Iced on January 04, 2007, 11:41:00 AM

Finally got around to backing up my first game Gears Of War, using this method! Sweeeeeeet.

Equipment used
T2 Ultimate Edition DVD
Old Hitachi GD-5000 DVD-ROM I took apart to read the disc.
XBOX360 Hitachi GDR-3120L used for extracting SS, PFI, DMI
Liteon SOHW-1633S with BS0Y firmware with DVD-ROM booktype set.

Firmware
Maximus-Garyopa_XTRM-HITACHI_v2_3_Stealth_Rev2

Software
DvdInfoPro V4.36 to set the booktype to DVD-ROM on the Liteon SOHW-1633S drive.
Xbox_Backup_Creator_v2.3.0.185 to extract SS, PFI, DMI
wxRipper-1.2 to rip the game disc.
XBOX360_SS_Merger_1.7b to Merge and Create Layer Break File (using SS, PFI, DMI, and ripped ISO image)
DVD Decrypter v3.5.4.0 to burn the resulting ISO image at 2.4X speed (Manually changing the layer break in settings to what is specified in the layer break file)

Works perfectly!

My Gears_of_War.ltf file (layout file) used in wxRipper (Only changed the 3rd line from C to D):

CODE

C19408
D1072
D109344
C1783936
J342400
C1783936
J0

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: hodienchuoc on January 11, 2007, 06:07:00 PM

I can't get any these game (Gear of War, Madden 07, Tom Clancy) to work,. Something wrong. Below is my layout and error message

C19408
D1072
D109344
C1783936
J342400
C1783936
J0

8:46:39 PM -> Start
Error @ 0 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

Error @ 0 : Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

8:47:29 PM -> Done

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 11, 2007, 06:27:00 PM

Nothing to do withany of these games.

QUOTE

Error @ 0

It is your swap that is not happening properly.

The rip does not even start.

It is common of the emergency hole trick, if that what you are using, not all drive can do it.
I found the Pionner quite receptive, for the rest it is not always a success.

rgds, soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: hodienchuoc on January 12, 2007, 12:09:00 PM

QUOTE(sosotiit @ Jan 12 2007, 02:34 AM)

Nothing to do withany of these games.

It is your swap that is not happening properly.

The rip does not even start.

It is common of the emergency hole trick, if that what you are using, not all drive can do it.
I found the Pionner quite receptive, for the rest it is not always a success.

rgds, soso

C19408 done
D1072 done
D109344 done
C1783936 0
J342400 done
C1783936 0
J0 done

No I didn't use hole trick. I open top cover like tutorial.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 12, 2007, 12:26:00 PM

after you make the swap, you hit 'spin drive',
wait before you do the 'start dump',
instead click the wx360 button
-if the wx360 opens with all the files from the game, then the swap was good and start the dump
-if it does not open, it is the swap that did not work.

And the number on line 5 (342400) is the same you got when you did the magic number?

hope it helps narrow it down,
rgds,soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: hodienchuoc on January 12, 2007, 06:09:00 PM

It is funny Now I used hole trick then it work. But I got database connect problem when open iso file . Please help

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: hodienchuoc on January 13, 2007, 07:57:00 AM

I got following message when open iso in ssmerger

Error connection to the database :

System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Login failed for user 'ssMerger'.

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnection.OnError(SqlException exception, Boolean breakConnection)

à System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ThrowExceptionAndWarning(TdsParserStateObject stateObj)

à System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.Run(RunBehavior runBehavior, SqlCommand cmdHandler, SqlDataReader dataStream, BulkCopySimpleResultSet bulkCopyHandler, TdsParserStateObject stateObj)

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.CompleteLogin(Boolean enlistOK)

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.OpenLoginEnlist(SqlConnection owningObject, SqlConnectionString connectionOptions, String newPassword, Boolean redirectedUserInstance)

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds..ctor(DbConnectionPoolIdentity identity, SqlConnectionString connectionOptions, Object providerInfo, String newPassword, SqlConnection owningObject, Boolean redirectedUserInstance)

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnectionFactory.CreateConnection(DbConnectionOptions options, Object poolGroupProviderInfo, DbConnectionPool pool, DbConnection owningConnection)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.CreatePooledConnection(DbConnection
owningConnection, DbConnectionPool pool, DbConnectionOptions options)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.CreateObject(DbConnection owningObject)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.UserCreateRequest(DbConnection owningObject)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionPool.GetConnection(DbConnection owningObject)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionFactory.GetConnection(DbConnection owningConnection)

à System.Data.ProviderBase.DbConnectionClosed.OpenConnection(DbConnection outerConnection, DbConnectionFactory connectionFactory)

à System.Data.SqlClient.SqlConnection.Open()

à XBOX360_SS_Merger.Form1.ShowMD5()

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 13, 2007, 08:24:00 AM

QUOTE(hodienchuoc @ Jan 13 2007, 11:04 AM)

Error connection to the database :

At first when it ask if you want to connect to the databse (not sure if the database even exist anymore, I never uses that), say no.
rgds,soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 15, 2007, 04:05:00 PM

This had to be the most noobish post i've ever made but....

Any help on dismantling the Pioneer 111D? I can't seem to get the front plastic face off

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: shpankey on January 19, 2007, 04:26:00 AM

you can definitely use the paperclip method, no need to take your drive apart. i've backed up over 20 of my games no problems at all with it on my pioneer a09 dvd drive. still works perfectly for all tasks i throw at it. i hate to see people taking their drives apart for no reason whatsoever.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 21, 2007, 02:49:00 PM

I get through the WXRip, but merging is a problem. But heres a quickie. Does the DVD movie have to be bigger then the game? I'm (unsuccessfully) trying to back up my copy of Smackdown VS Raw 07, and i know its a biggish game and i'm using the Matrix DVD (7.7gb)?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 21, 2007, 03:06:00 PM

You are more than ok at 7.7G, I had success from 7.5G.
In the end you are always getting a 7.05G file.

What are you prob with merging? How was the ss.bin extracted for the game (drive/software)?

rgds,soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 21, 2007, 05:53:00 PM

Well just now i burnt a second... more successful coaster using IMGBurn, my stats

Hitachi 59DJ (latest firmware - Maximus)
Verbatim Media
Pioneer 111D

I ripped an image of the game using WXRipper and fixed all the CRC coded. The ISO was accepted by IMGBurn so this leads me to believe the rip is good. I connected up the 360 to extract a fresh SS and had more success (i think) and using SS Merger i made the 1kb Game.DVD file (which i editted). I set up IMGBurn with all the settings and burnt it. It then gave me the error of "Please play this game in an xbox 360 console" (which is much better then the first propper coaster, coaster

). So would you say its a bad SS? I should i try a different extraction? (currently using the cmdline prompt from the firmware. Or should i use the firmware tools to merge the SS and image (i did this the first time, but made other mistakes that lead to the coaster, such as not setting up IMGBurn)?

THanks in advance

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 21, 2007, 06:41:00 PM

When you say latest maximus, are you talking about the '360 firmware toolbox 3.0'. If so, have you installed the firmware v1.6 on your drive because that does not extract the ss.bin properly (you would need to install the same firmware with the f900 core , it is called v2.3).

You could also run the stealth check in the tools tab of XBCreator to see if all pieces in the image are seen.

rgs, soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on January 22, 2007, 02:11:00 AM

Sorry - i meant i have the Maximus 2.3 (rev2) firmware. I did not do anything to try and make the media stealth and i've not used the tool you mentioned. When i get home i'll look it over and see if the image when wrong.

I forgot to say that the SS was the reason for "Please put this disc in...." error most of the time from searches on this forum. I've restored and flashed the drive and i know thats ok, i think it must be the SS. When methods (appart from the given firmware one) would you reccomend for SS extraction (and stealth data incase this is needed)?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on January 22, 2007, 06:18:00 AM

that is my decision tree as far as equipement is concerned (here)
rgds,soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: hodienchuoc on February 01, 2007, 10:00:00 AM

QUOTE(sosotiit @ Jan 12 2007, 08:33 PM)

Finally I worked by using trick hole on Plextor DVD-R, but the step is little different.

1. PUT movie disc 7.5GB into PC DVD drive.
2. Get the magic key
2. Wait until DVD stop spinning. (don't use stop button)
3. Using paper clip to eject DVD drive
4. Put XBOX 360 original in tray
5. Put disc tray back in (same thing don't use eject button)
6. Click wx360 button to verify correct disc.
7. Rip it.

I made this way work over 10 games without fail.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Iced on February 11, 2007, 02:12:00 PM

QUOTE(Iced @ Jan 4 2007, 10:48 AM)

CODE

C19408
D1072
D109344
C1783936
J342400
C1783936
J0

I can confirm this method also works on (with the same .ltf file):

Lost Planet Extreme Condition
Call of Duty 3

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: -Gadget- on February 11, 2007, 02:41:00 PM

well what a long winded way to backup a game !!!
why not just sped £10 on a samsung 162c drive which can be fitted in ya PC as a normal drive, and one click on xboxbackucreater and ya got ya img to burn !

hopefully the LG8164 will be able to do this too some day (can be used to backup up xbox1 games)

or if ya hooking up ya 360 drive to do the SS sector why not just use it to do the lot with xboxbackupcreater !!! .. will extract it all and make it into 1 nice file for burning !

why make things more complicated than they need to be

Mick ...

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on February 11, 2007, 04:02:00 PM

QUOTE

or if ya hooking up ya 360 drive to do the SS sector why not just use it to do the lot with xboxbackupcreater !!! .. will extract it all and make it into 1 nice file for burning !

why make things more complicated than they need to be

@-Gadget-
With 650 more post you should know better, that an entire group of techno people at XS cannot not think of that. plse.

Hitachi owner cannot connect their drive and get the game partition like a samsung owner.

Many bought an shd162c, the others got organized to access the drive without having to open the entire shell for the SS, and often use their pioneer burner for wxripping of the game partition.

some good reading in the pinned section

,

respectfully, soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Iced on February 11, 2007, 05:55:00 PM

QUOTE(-Gadget- @ Feb 11 2007, 01:48 PM)

I made do with the equipment I had on hand

An old GD-5000 that I had laying around did the trick. And besides, my cheapass (as I'm sure many others here are... why would u be backing up in the first place? ;-)...) I wasn't about to dish out "£10" + £50 in shipping + whatever duties and taxes (exaggerated but you get my point) to get one shipped to my home. Bundle that with the fact that 162's aren't that easy to come by these days and I'm sure it's an easy decision.

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on February 11, 2007, 06:15:00 PM

I guess the point is made on people being happy about having this, lets go back to the intent of the post:
Use of wxripper method for Hitachi Owner

rgds, soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: cpthyland2 on April 15, 2007, 06:44:00 AM

QUOTE(lilpete @ Jan 1 2007, 01:42 AM)

OK, nice job on rainbow six, When I tried this with wXRipper, I got 2 CRC errors, I modified my file as such:

C19408
D0172
C89088
D20256
C550912
D1233024
J335872
C1783936
J0

A smiliar file, and process worked fine for Gears Of War, but after the extract, and merge with ss, I get a "mixed media" message when I put the disc in the 360, is it possible the ss (downloaded) is wrong?

What movie, and file paramaters did you use, and how did you obtain your ss file

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on April 15, 2007, 06:57:00 AM

the last three lines must not be changed. it should stay

C1783936
Jmagicnumber (which for you I get is 335872 so it would be J335872)
C1783936

put a D in all the lines above

rgds, soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: quemador on December 15, 2007, 12:42:00 AM

QUOTE(Overloaded @ Aug 17 2006, 07:09 AM)

Could not get Clone CD to work. Images burnt with that comes up UNREADABLE disc in the XBOX 360.
Same image burnt with Image Burner (EX DVD Decrypter) works all the time !
Ming boggling to me................

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: madbloke on February 03, 2020, 10:58:00 AM

say i had an error at 0 would changing the value to 0 and then adding what it should be as a dummy work?

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: ccuser on November 10, 2008, 06:57:00 PM

can anyone confirm weather this method will work with new Xbox 360 with Benq drive ?
I have already updated benq drive firmware to xtreme 1.41 .

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: sosotiit on November 10, 2008, 08:11:00 PM

no, with a benq you will need to flash the 800 firmware anyway, and with that you will only need one click in XBCreator ( Tutorial: XBCreator & Imgburn )

soso

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: dc_2000 on November 17, 2008, 05:12:00 PM

Guys, I read this tutorial several times and one thing isn't clear to me. I have a MODed XBOX 360 DVD drive that can play game copies.

Can I burn a copy of the original 360 game in my other DVD drive from PC that is not MODed? (I used this DVD drive before though to burn copies of 360 games from ISOs.)

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: AZiaNKinda on February 10, 2009, 02:35:00 PM

I have tried this process many times. I always have to change line 3 in order to get through it at all but I always end up with an error on the 6th line. I always get to a random point and get an error and this has happened every time I have tried which is about 15 times with 4 or 5 different games.

Copy Done
Dummy Done
Dummy Done
Copy Done
Jump Done
Copy <Error at Random Number>
Jump

This last time I tried with devil may cry 4 and this was the result

Copy Done
Dummy Done
Dummy Done
Copy Done
Jump Done
Copy 1783936 - 1770496

and I got this error:
Unhandled exeption has occurred in your application. If you click Continue. The application will ignore this error and attempt to continue. If you click Quit. the application will close immediately.

Handle does not support synchronous operations. The parameters to the File Stream constructor may need to be changed to indicate that the handle was opened asynchronously (that is. it was opened explicitly for overlapped I/O).

and if I click continue the disc will spin but nothing happens and I have not choice but to quit.

PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

Title: Metaphazes Guide For Backing Up Xbox 360 Games
Post by: Ashlington on January 06, 2011, 06:20:00 AM

Hi guys,

I'm having trouble backing up my games. I have looked everywhere for the answer already and have not found it.

I am using wx ripper and following the instructions people have posted. However, when I begin to dump the game after editing the layout etc, it only takes a minute or 2 before it finishes. This only leaves me with a 250mb file which abgx360 doesnt recognise as an iso and wont work. I read Metaphaze's guide and changed the layout to what he suggested and i still only got a 2.5gb iso which abgx360 still doesnt like.

If anyone could give me a solution for this problem, it would be greatly appreciated.

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