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Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: MoreStuff4Free on August 09, 2006, 08:12:00 PM
Sup fella's,
 I have two NEC 3550A DVD Dual layer drives, and that's all that I got actually, they were cheap at newegg for $50 bucks a piece so I got them, I am hoping they are ok to backup my xbox360 games with because having to buy ANOTHER dvd DL burner would really suck....

It is STOCK with default firmware, straight out of box from newegg... I don't have any idea how to update firmware on a pc drive or xbox360 drive, yet...

Thanks.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: WinbonD on August 09, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
nec burners suck for making 360 backups ,


get the pioneer 111d ,

Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: MoreStuff4Free on August 09, 2006, 11:28:00 PM
would you like to buy me a pioneer burner?
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: MoreStuff4Free on August 10, 2006, 11:45:00 AM
ok, I need to make a correction:

I have FOUR DVD Drives, 2 identical of each kind,


LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE 16X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827106014


NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE/ATAPI DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16827152058


I have not recieved my xbox360 yet, it will be here tuesday/wednesday of next week, but I am ALL About preparing, I'd like to hack my xbox360 right out of the box, lol, maybe power it on once with a dvd movie to make sure it's not DOA, then start hacking~! lol....

Which Burner is better to use? The NEC's are already in my pc's, and I have the two lite-on's in a bin in the garage.... ( out of room in the house ), lol.... Also, DO I need to update my firmware?


In My Computer > Right mouse click > Properties on the D Drive >  Hardware Tab


_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A

Driver Date: 01/07/2001

Driver Version: 5.1.2535.0


IS that too old, or default firmware is not good or what's up fella's?

Thanks...
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: WinbonD on August 10, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
i think the liteon burner will make better backups then nec ,


just burn one backup an each burner and see which one works ,if any


update both drives to the latest firmware , prefferably hacked,


5.1 is not your firmware version , you can see the firmware version in the device id string ,

or with the binflash , for the nec drive
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on August 10, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
search is working, and there are already a lot of threads asking this same question.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on August 18, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
its a great burner, just not for 360 backups.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 18, 2006, 10:58:00 PM
The NECs have taken a dive in quality and aren't recommended much anymore.  Not saying that they are terrible burners but they certainly aren't of the caliber of some of their previous models.  Anyways methinks alot of the so called compatibility issues have to do with the fact that the Pioneer 111D autosets the booktype to DVD-ROM on D/L DVD+R and the NEC 3550A requires a firmware upgrade and to do it manually.  Most don't realize how crucial this simple little thing is for compatibility.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 19, 2006, 08:41:00 AM
You are wrong about the Pioneer as it does set the booktype to DVD-ROM right out of the box.  Didn't know that about the 3550.  All previous model NEC drives required either an upgraded firmware or a booktype adjustment.  You 100% sure that the 3550 does set the booktype out of the box?  Incidentally what media are you using?
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: RMF on August 19, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
Actually, heres a couple of screenshots. This is how DVDinfopro reports the media..

IPB Image

And this is what the xbox thinks of it....

IPB Image

Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 19, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
Fair enough.  Who knows.  Maybe the 3550A could've used a firmware update.  Either way, you should be happy with the 111D.  I just got mine and it is an excellent drive.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 19, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
Honestly it is the shite E-net media you are using more than anything else.  Give some Verbatims a shot and I bet you will notice a difference.  wink.gif
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: liq456 on August 20, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
I use the same nec and burns work perfectly i even burned @ 8x, just make sure to set booktype to dvd-rom.
use this to set booktype http://binflash.cdfr...lash_wingui.zip
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 20, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
QUOTE(RMF @ Aug 20 2006, 07:41 PM) View Post

My mate brought his pioneer 110 over today, burned 2 backups at 8X even which booted perfectly. So it was the burner after all.  mad.gif


Have you tried updating the firmware on your NEC?  As mentioned by the previous post it could be a booktype issue.  I believe the Pioneer 110 autosets the booktype to DVD-ROM on D/L discs as have all of the late model Pioneer burners.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: rat_poison on August 20, 2006, 05:50:00 PM
QUOTE(MoreStuff4Free @ Aug 10 2006, 01:52 PM) View Post

Which Burner is better to use?


Read read read. Find out what others have to say, try for yourself - then let everyone know.

I think it's still too soon to tell - burn a few games, follow the tut's to a T - and if they don't load then try try again...

I'm still convinced v47's dont' get the ss.bin right.

NObody's confirmed whether they're supposed to be identical or not... I keep getting different ss.bin's for the same game.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: RMF on August 20, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
QUOTE(jesterrace777 @ Aug 21 2006, 01:36 AM) View Post

Have you tried updating the firmware on your NEC?  As mentioned by the previous post it could be a booktype issue.  I believe the Pioneer 110 autosets the booktype to DVD-ROM on D/L discs as have all of the late model Pioneer burners.


As I said in my initial post, I updated the firmware and even tried the hacked firmware...i tried them all. It's all water under the bridge now anyway as the burner is long gone and the 111 is on it wasy biggrin.gif
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 21, 2006, 02:02:00 AM
Okay, I won't argue with you that buying a Pioneer 111D was a smart choice, I just wanted to make sure you weren't throwing out a good burner for something that was user error.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: jesterrace777 on August 21, 2006, 06:28:00 PM
Yup, although given how cheap the Pioneer 111D is going for these days, it's hard not to do the upgrade.  I bought mine last week for $32 shipped, which is a great deal for the drive as is.  However they also threw in a 50 pack of 16x Ink Jet Printable Verbatim DVD-R discs for free with the purchase of the drive.  Yeah, I know they won't do anything as far as the 360 is concerned but they are still great discs that can be used for other applications.
Title: Nec 3550a Dvd Dl Drive....
Post by: Tim010 on August 22, 2006, 06:45:00 AM
Hi guys i'm just new here.

I do have a question; is this gonna work (playing backups):
xbox360 - xtreme firmware - samsung drive
burner: BenQ
media: Platinum dl+

And another question:
Is a pioneer 111D just as good as a 110D?