Post by: Xbox-Scene on August 23, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
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Post by: atreyus dream on August 23, 2006, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: Heet on August 23, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 23, 2006, 10:48:00 PM
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So yeah... if i pick up a Wii and/or ps3... im basically pooped on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: CollinstheClown on August 23, 2006, 10:58:00 PM
-Collinsthelown
Post by: Heet on August 23, 2006, 11:00:00 PM
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 23, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
QUOTE(CollinstheClown @ Aug 24 2006, 12:29 AM) 
I still don't understand what the 360 connector is for, are they making a male to male cable for it?
-Collinsthelown
Yeah, id say thats what theyre doing.. then the last component/composite set (closest to the 5port hub) is for output.. while the ones in the middle are for other crap... yeahh... i think thats how its going to work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Post by: Mega_mil on August 23, 2006, 10:41:00 PM
yeah, that is kinda weird.
Post by: Heet on August 23, 2006, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: SteveNZ on August 23, 2006, 11:38:00 PM
Be interesting to see a proper review of it to see what visual quality is like.
Post by: CollinstheClown on August 24, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
-CollinstheClown
Post by: Neoistheone2000 on August 23, 2006, 11:45:00 PM
id sacrafice 2 network ports for it...
Post by: Varung on August 24, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: Sennin on August 24, 2006, 12:32:00 AM
Post by: Heet on August 24, 2006, 12:41:00 AM
DAMN
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on August 24, 2006, 12:16:00 AM
QUOTE(sicknasty413 @ Aug 23 2006, 11:19 PM) 
sounds cool.. i wouldnt mind picking it up.. im running out of inputs and ethernet ports.. this would be my setup:
So yeah... if i pick up a Wii and/or ps3... im basically pooped on
So yeah... if i pick up a Wii and/or ps3... im basically pooped on
i got a JVC component switch for 30 bucks on ebay... have that, filled (3 component, 2 composite) and an AV switch near filled... i am out of component, had to switch my ps2 to composite because i had no room...
definately wouldnt mind something with like 5 component inputs, with no interference at all.
Post by: ricflairandy on August 24, 2006, 03:05:00 AM
Post by: [email protected] on August 24, 2006, 03:16:00 AM
I mean, the picture would surely be better with a 360 connected directly to the tv than through this box?
It looks like a very nice box though, but i dont want to lose quality on the picture....
Post by: fezzman on August 24, 2006, 04:21:00 AM
I'm also about maxed out on my power strips behind the TV. This thing can replace my current hub...nice.
Post by: Lord Serebi on August 24, 2006, 04:32:00 AM
QUOTE([email protected] @ Aug 24 2006, 10:23 AM)
How much is the quality loss on these boxes?
I mean, the picture would surely be better with a 360 connected directly to the tv than through this box?
It looks like a very nice box though, but i dont want to lose quality on the picture....
these devices are pass through devices, they don't typically convert signal. mine doesn't actually use any power at all
Post by: fezzman on August 24, 2006, 04:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Lord Serebi @ Aug 24 2006, 11:39 AM)
I bought this one for $20
So if you pay anymore for the same thing, you just got jipped! btw, mine does not use any power outlet, or batteries, its amazing. but it also doesn't use a remote, so if you are a lazy bastard then its not for you (80% of xbox-scene just got wiped out)
these devices are pass through devices, they don't typically convert signal. mine doesn't actually use any power at all
But does yours have optical input/output?
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 24, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
I've owned both the 1st and 2nd versions of the Score/Pelican selector, I've owned the cheap 20 switch sold at EB games and several others and they ALL added interference to the picture, getting worse at higher resolutions.
After buying and returning/reselling numerous selectors I finally got the Psyclone selector it has 4 inputs and 1 output each input has component, composite, s-video, analog audio and optical audio. And it has an LCD that can be programed to display whatever text you want when switched to a particular input.
It doesn't have as many inputs as some of the other selectors but the picture quality looks is as crystal clear as it did plugged directly into my projector. My ONLY problem with it is the remote only offers up/down selection as opposed to a single button to select a particular input, but that's not really a big deal IMO.
The only other selector I've seen with good quality is the Audio Authority 1154, which also only has 4 inputs.
So this selector is junk unless it proves to have good signal quality, here's hoping the delay was to work out any quality issues they were having.
Also I wouldn't recommend buying it with the intent to use the network hub "hubs" as opposed to "switches" can DRAMATICALLY reduce your networking speed, add lag, etc. IMO they shouldn't even bother if they're not going to make it a managed switch.
Post by: Xb0XmAn on August 24, 2006, 05:40:00 AM
Nothing similar available in the Europe though..
Good post btw by twistedsymphony, thx
Post by: kidkinetix on August 24, 2006, 07:06:00 AM
I don't mind my setup but one of my roomates still has trouble figuring out the tv :|, I should look into something like this or the Psyclone to dumbify things a little bit. And if i do end up with a Wii and PS3 I'm short a component input and have no digitial audio inputs left on my amp, and that's not cool
Post by: killab138 on August 24, 2006, 07:40:00 AM
i mean it is mad sexy
but so was my ex and she was a bitch
so i hope it holds up to the hype.
i might buy one.
Post by: thax on August 24, 2006, 09:24:00 AM
For example the benchmark Denon AVR-2807 receiver, billed as Denon's best receiver by CNET, has only 3 component inputs. Yet the device has 6 S-Video inputs, 4 S-Video outputs and 12 RCA analog stereo inputs, 8 RCA analog outputs, 6 Composite inputs and 4 composite outputs.
In order to get a receiver that has 6 component inputs from Denon you need to buy their top of the line model which is 7000 dollars and nearly 1 foot high.
I wish there was a decent receiver that dumped most of the legacy low quality connectors in favor of component.
Post by: MickRaider on August 24, 2006, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: grim_d on August 24, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(thax @ Aug 24 2006, 04:31 PM)
Now why can't a major manufacturer make something like this? I am still waiting for an affordable receiver with more than 2 component inputs and multiple digital audio inputs.
For example the benchmark Denon AVR-2807 receiver, billed as Denon's best receiver by CNET, has only 3 component inputs. Yet the device has 6 S-Video inputs, 4 S-Video outputs and 12 RCA analog stereo inputs, 8 RCA analog outputs, 6 Composite inputs and 4 composite outputs.
In order to get a receiver that has 6 component inputs from Denon you need to buy their top of the line model which is 7000 dollars and nearly 1 foot high.
I wish there was a decent receiver that dumped most of the legacy low quality connectors in favor of component.
eh joytech ARE a major manufacturer. and this has 5 component inputs does it not?
I just got the joytech av control centre 2, it suited my needs better and its an awesome peice of kit as i assume this will be.
Post by: Necrophiliac on August 24, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: bedsfred on August 24, 2006, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: mlmadmax on August 24, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
One thing about most boxes with Ethernet built in is that when you select a different input it switches the Ethernet as well; it looks like this unit has a separate always on Ethernet hub so you can watch TV on one input and download on another and that is pretty cool.
I hope the picture quaility looks good though, we shall see
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 24, 2006, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(DJTucan @ Aug 24 2006, 01:16 PM)
P.S. I saw something like this for sale at Game Stop for about 100 bucks and it has an LCD and auto switch for all your High Def pluging.
hmm, i just searched their website.. couldnt find anything.. except for some 20 dollar composite one.. hmm
Post by: thax on August 24, 2006, 11:53:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ Aug 24 2006, 04:50 PM)
eh joytech ARE a major manufacturer. and this has 5 component inputs does it not? I just got the joytech av control centre 2, it suited my needs better and its an awesome peice of kit as i assume this will be.
I am not trying to belittle what joytech has done here; I am talking about the traditional amp/receivers made by Denon, Sony, Harman Kardon not being able to keep up with devices like this. The only problem with the JoyTech unit is that it doesn't have a built in amp, so there is nothing to drive your sound system. This means that you need to pass that work off onto an amp anyway, which if it had the correct inputs would negate the need for such a device.
Post by: booga13 on August 24, 2006, 11:55:00 AM
It says a hub, do they mean a hub or a switch? If its a hub, Strike 1.
A lack of Auto Sensing and a few Coax inputs that would be available. Strike 2.
While it is cool that they seem to be making a "dedicated" 360 port, what about others who want the rest of the ports for other applications? Such as DVI for a mythtv box? Perhaps HDMI? (HDMI could be bad for this though =p ). Strike 3.
I'm Out!
For the person that mentioned a $7,000 Dennon setup that would be needed for a true setup. I agree that $7,000 isn't an acceptable price range for a AV switch, however, if people have enough money to get the HDTV and the 360, AND have more than one to two devices that would require a switch let alone digital audio outputs, $75 isn't too bad of a deal. I HAVE seen HDMI switches out their, in fact thats my major next buy ($83 shipped for a 4 port HDMI switch with equalizer).
Once again I DON'T claim to know the price, I am just saying that I have seen real world solutions that are for $75.
On a PRO Note though. Its pretty dang cool that they have the LCD panel switch orientation is the unit is horizontal or vertical
Also that it looks like a 360, now thats just down right awesome. I would pass though IMO.Post by: bdedi on August 24, 2006, 04:08:00 PM
I also have the same problem as mentioned above about my Denon receiver only having 2 Digital Audio inputs. One is for my DVD system and the other currently is setup to take S-Video and Digital Audio from the XBOX360 and pump it straight to the TV.
If the box did up/down sampling it would be great, but doing that kind of stuff costs big bucks. The $20 box requires that you use the lowest common denominator for a single connection on the TV, hence all my stuff, 360, PS2 and PC are running S-Video. I used to have a Gamecube but that got relagated down to the basement where the kids have sleep-overs.
I will stick with what I have for now. It works.
Post by: drleephd on August 25, 2006, 05:00:00 AM
I don't get it. I'm too broke to own a 360 but still run a proper home theater system and my component switching is integrated in my amp and have an ethernet SWITCH in my stack anyways for my xbox1, and replayTV. but if I didn't they're easy to come by.
for around $150 that this thing costs wouldn't it make sense to squeese out the extra $50 to get an amp with integrated HD switching?
The Yamaha HTR-5930SL sells for $199 from best buy, which for what it does is pretty cheap. It's a few steps under anything I'd actually buy for myself (I own the 5950 and it's S_I_C_K!) but this still has component switching and would look alot better sitting next to a 360 than that fugly thing.
Am I missing something? what does this do that one of the cheapest yet still acceptable quality surround sound receivers out there doesnt?
maybe if you bought a $1000+ amp a long time ago that lacks component switching but I'm really lost as to what this should be used for.
Post by: thax on August 25, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
I have a DVD player, HD Sat TV Receiver, Xbox 360. This uses up 3 inputs, now how do I hook up a MVIX or original xbox using component?
Newer receivers should all have 5 component inputs, but ideally 6 inputs just to be safe. The receivers typically have this many composite inputs but who the hell uses composite these days when buying a brand new receiver?
Post by: fahrenheit on August 25, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
Post by: drleephd on August 25, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
Remember these?
We just need to see hi def versions for xbx, x360 etc and we're all solved, unless people want to play all those systems at the same time.
Bah! For $150 forget it but not terrible for $80.
it still overcomplicates most any system it's hooked to, and I'm a firm believer that video switching should be done by the AV receiver. That's one of it's main jobs and if it doesn't cut it then it's time to upgrade.
I agree though, they should make more component inputs and stop putting composite altogether. I would never by a piece of home theater equipment that only outputs composite (really old game systems are excused).
Post by: CollinstheClown on August 27, 2006, 12:01:00 AM