Post by: thax on June 13, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
I think the whole CRT is better thing is like people who still prefer analog records to CD's. Personally I don't get it.
Post by: paranoia4422 on June 13, 2006, 09:20:00 AM
QUOTE(thax @ Jun 13 2006, 04:26 PM) 
Personally I think that CRT rear projection is worst combination of technologies. Lack of brightness due to rear projection combined with an overdriven CRT that is prone to burnin and lack of clairity due to the inherent blurriness of CRT technology.
I think the whole CRT is better thing is like people who still prefer analog records to CD's. Personally I don't get it.
Blurriness is cause by manufactures poorly focusing the optics and not having the optics clean when they are put in.
They are popular because they provide the most accurate picture of all the display technologys.
And they are far from dark, When you bring it home and plug it in torch mode is a hell of alot brighter then at the store(i have my set at %40 contrast and %48 brightness for TV watching right now)
Post by: paranoia4422 on June 13, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
I love nice honest companys who do these things.
Post by: paranoia4422 on June 13, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
But im worried that the tech center i called will only mess up the lenses
as they are senseitive and coated like camera lenses.
Post by: Foe-hammer on June 14, 2006, 02:33:00 AM
Second, don't waste anymore time with your obviously defective TV. Most TV repair guys don't know what the freak they are doing, and in the end all you'll end up with is wasted time and an expired 30 day money back garantee. Just take it back to circuit city and get it replaced, get another HDTV, or your money back. If you want to be satisfied with an HDTV you'll have to spend at least $1600 for one.....you get what you pay for.
Post by: lowendfrequency on June 14, 2006, 11:41:00 AM
Looks to me like the contrast is cranked to compensate for the low brightness levels. Having your brightness levels so low is usually compensation for something else, like poor black levels or contrast ratios.
And regardless of the picture, I'd take it back because of the delay alone. You obviously got a defective set (or just a crappy one), and it sounds like someone else got it before you, realized the problem and returned it. If you're smart, you'll do the same asap.
Post by: paranoia4422 on June 14, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on June 14, 2006, 03:47:00 PM
First you say the picture is fubared, and that you are having lag issues, then when others offer advice, and say that it is indeed defective, you defend your TV by saying how good it looks.
Am i missing something here (wtf).
Post by: Foe-hammer on June 14, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
QUOTE(paranoia4422 @ Jun 14 2006, 05:25 PM)
Lol those aren't of my set! but im trying to say the technology is not junk.
I've been trying to get CircuitCity on the phone but no one in the television deparment answers it, so settle down foehammer. I'm having it exchanged as soon as they get 51F59's back in(since the sale is over the warehouse should beable to restock them and ship one out to my house and pick mine up)
I wasn't upset, just a little confused....
Post by: VinnySem on June 16, 2006, 10:38:00 AM
I am ultra-picky when it comes to the performance of something I buy, especially for big-ticket items like home appliances and electronics.
Not to pimp for one retailer over another, but for almost any home A/V equipment, I go exclusively to Tweeter. When I was in the market for my HDTV last year, the salesman actually steered me to a ridculous deal on a 50" Samsung DLP when I was ready to spend nearly double on a larger Mitsubishi DiamondVision that was nearly double the price. To my eyes (which are 20/20) the picture quality on the Samsung is great. 4 months after I bought it, wierd things began happening to the TV picture, so I called their customer service and scheduled a repair visit. The Tweeter tech took all of 15 minutes to figure out the problem, called his parts depot, had a replacement in stock, actually drove an hour each way to get the replacement circuit boards. He replaced the boards, then calibrated the display with his Avia disk! I don't expect that kind of service at St. Peter's gates. I've purchased TV's and DVD players from Sears, Circuit City, Best Buy, but I always end up going back to Tweeter because they just seem more knowledgeable and have superior service to the "big box" electronics stores.
Post by: paranoia4422 on June 16, 2006, 03:00:00 PM
QUOTE(VinnySem @ Jun 16 2006, 05:45 PM)
Just my $.02 ...
I am ultra-picky when it comes to the performance of something I buy, especially for big-ticket items like home appliances and electronics.
Not to pimp for one retailer over another, but for almost any home A/V equipment, I go exclusively to Tweeter. When I was in the market for my HDTV last year, the salesman actually steered me to a ridculous deal on a 50" Samsung DLP when I was ready to spend nearly double on a larger Mitsubishi DiamondVision that was nearly double the price. To my eyes (which are 20/20) the picture quality on the Samsung is great. 4 months after I bought it, wierd things began happening to the TV picture, so I called their customer service and scheduled a repair visit. The Tweeter tech took all of 15 minutes to figure out the problem, called his parts depot, had a replacement in stock, actually drove an hour each way to get the replacement circuit boards. He replaced the boards, then calibrated the display with his Avia disk! I don't expect that kind of service at St. Peter's gates. I've purchased TV's and DVD players from Sears, Circuit City, Best Buy, but I always end up going back to Tweeter because they just seem more knowledgeable and have superior service to the "big box" electronics stores.
Tweeter is to rich for my blood
CircuitCity's prices here piss all over bestbuys, but its a shame that they opened a new bestbuy down the street from them.....they are doomed to go out of buisness now 
I love my circuit city.Tweeter does give away Avia when people buy complete home theater packages, but still I try to get the best possible product for the money i have and tweeter just cannot do it for me.
As for knoweldgeable people, AVS helps with that.
Post by: theblujuggalo on June 16, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
ever since i have moved its been sad, the closest Tweeter to me is 236.8 Miles away
Post by: VinnySem on June 16, 2006, 09:38:00 PM
Post by: drmmaster on July 13, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
Post by: Serious Sam on July 17, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
Here's a link to getting in the service menu and how to adjust certain things.
CLICK HERE
Post by: paranoia4422 on July 17, 2006, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Serious Sam @ Jul 18 2006, 03:46 AM)
I own a Hitachi 46F500 and it's nice. I had to manually calibrate it by going into the service menu but once i was in and made a few adjustments everything started to look nice. The only issue i had with it when i bought it was a high green push which is why i had to find a way into the service menu. But while in the service menu you can manually adjust everything including greyscale, skin tones..etc
Here's a link to getting in the service menu and how to adjust certain things.
CLICK HERE
First of all the new models had* a unknown service menu code up until 1week ago, which was leaked BY ME because i have a service manual for the set.
and my set has no color decoder, so there is no fixes to correct my red push, nor fix my blue which is underexagerated by %10
I also leaked the new DCAM convergence steps, which I performed but did not really make drastic improvments(though blue halos are minimal now because of the dead on blue gun convergence that DCAM allows)