Post by: RadATI on February 25, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
I BOUGHT ONE!!!!!
HURRY! OFFER ENDS SOON!
*GONNA ENJOY 1080p ON MY 360 ^^
PLUS... IT'S 6TH GEN. DLP 10,000+ RPM COLOR WHEEL (7 COLORS)
Post by: CattyKid on February 25, 2006, 11:05:00 PM
QUOTE(RadATI @ Feb 26 2006, 01:03 AM) 
http://www.onecall.c...d=true&id=27209
I BOUGHT ONE!!!!!
HURRY! OFFER ENDS SOON!
*GONNA ENJOY 1080p ON MY 360 ^^
PLUS... IT'S 6TH GEN. DLP 10,000+ RPM COLOR WHEEL (7 COLORS)
Wow, you ain't kidding.
How much does it cost to ship a 61 inch TV?
Post by: adeon on February 25, 2006, 11:06:00 PM
is it really worth it?..
I really dont know about this.. 720p.. 1080i,, or 1080p
all I play on is AV-RCA.. (yellow-white-red) cables.. will I notice a differnce??
,serious question though.. I was thinking of buying me one of these... or a Projector..
anybody have any suggestions? on which is best.. whice to buy/price is best?
Post by: RadATI on February 25, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
SHIPPING IS INCLUDED WITH $2999 PURCHASE
IT CAN UPSCALE THE XBOX 360 FROM 720p to 1080p ^^ W00T!!!!!!!
If you like TVs that's 1 generation ahead of all others, then this is for you ^^
(DAMN!!! 1080p on my 360!!!!!!)
(2 HDMI ports ^^)
Post by: CattyKid on February 25, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
QUOTE(RadATI @ Feb 26 2006, 01:13 AM)
"HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO SHIP 61' TV?"
SHIPPING IS INCLUDED WITH $2999 PURCHASE
IT CAN UPSCALE THE XBOX 360 FROM 720p to 1080p ^^ W00T!!!!!!!
Well, it will actually most likely look worse in 1080p than it did in 720p. Things always look best in their native resolution.
So shipping is included then? That's good. Still, I wonder how much it would cost ME to ship a 61" TV somewhere far away.
And yes, Adeon, you will notice a HUGE difference. 720p vs. Composite (the yellow RCA cable) is ot even comparable in my book. Games are MUCH clearer than DVDs with much more detail. I REALLY suggest you get one if you can afford, or at least try it out to see what you are missing.
Post by: RadATI on February 25, 2006, 11:12:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Feb 26 2006, 01:17 AM)
Well, it will actually most likely look worse in 1080p than it did in 720p. Things always look best in their native resolution.
So shipping is included then? That's good. Still, I wonder how much it would cost ME to ship a 61" TV somewhere far away.
Dude, it's an AI (yes, artificial intelligence) upscale
Post by: RadATI on February 25, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
Post by: dulow on February 26, 2006, 02:19:00 AM
Post by: Vasher on February 26, 2006, 02:37:00 AM
QUOTE(unclepauly @ Feb 25 2006, 10:45 PM)
What do you guys think is the best hdtv technology? If anybody says LCD I will pipe myself instantly. Reason for asking is I want to upgrade from my 3 yr. old rear projection 1080i tv(It's a sony(it's ok to hate me).... and still looks fantastic). Should I hop on this deal or wait for those SED tv's coming out in a year or so?
The Sony SXRD is the best on the market w/o any question. I did a direct comparison against this and many other high end TV's, the SXRD smokes 'em. I bought the 60". The SXRD is the CNET editor's choice and received the highest review score. The Sony SXRD is sick!!!!!! Trust me.
Oh, the SXRD is liquid crystal on silicon.
Post by: RadATI on February 26, 2006, 06:51:00 AM
1. No visible pixel structure on Samsung, Sony SXRD looks like you're looking through a screen door
2. 500 million colors (or somewhere there), Sony SXRD = 16.7m colors
3. No burn in ^^.
4. No color fades, (I'd like to see that on the Sony SXRD, but, too bad...)
5. 60 hz on 1080p !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sony SXRD = no-can-do
6. Better contrast ratio (1:10,000) than Sony SXRD
7.Brighter screen ^^ W00t!!!
Post by: boxrocker on February 26, 2006, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: RadATI on February 26, 2006, 09:39:00 AM
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Post by: Bennett on February 26, 2006, 11:21:00 AM
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Post by: prankfurter on February 26, 2006, 11:29:00 AM
but seriously thats a wicked tv, and i wish it had it =D
Post by: Mick Garvey on February 26, 2006, 11:45:00 AM
. I think its funny you spent 3 grand on a TV that cant even show the PS3 or 360 at their full potential, oh yeah and have fun buying new light bulbs for that DLP 
Post by: lilbplaya3406 on February 26, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Mick Garvey @ Feb 26 2006, 12:52 PM)
What a waste of money, no next gen console will support that
The PS3 runs on 1080p
Post by: marauderrt10 on February 26, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(lilbplaya3406 @ Feb 26 2006, 02:04 PM)
The PS3 runs on 1080p
Haha thats what you think, or havent you noticed they watered it down? It has no Blu-ray anymore, no bluetooth controllers, and no hard drive, im pretty sure if sony even gets a working one it will be in 1080i.
Post by: Vasher on February 26, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE(RadATI @ Feb 26 2006, 05:58 AM)
7 reasons why Samsung HL-R6178 kills Sony SXRD
1. No visible pixel structure on Samsung, Sony SXRD looks like you're looking through a screen door
2. 500 million colors (or somewhere there), Sony SXRD = 16.7m colors
3. No burn in ^^.
4. No color fades, (I'd like to see that on the Sony SXRD, but, too bad...)
5. 60 hz on 1080p !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sony SXRD = no-can-do
6. Better contrast ratio (1:10,000) than Sony SXRD
7.Brighter screen ^^ W00t!!!
Dude, have you even seen the SXRD? I compared them directly, SXRD smokes Samsung.
CNet score for the SXRD= 8.8 and it received the Editor's Choice Award. There isn't any screen door affect. This TV is regarded as the best 1080p available today.
CNet score for the Samsung= 7.6
The Samsung doesn't have a true 1920x1080 pixel resolution.
This is what cnet said about the 67" model (same specs as the 61")
As we mentioned at the outset, the Samsung HL-R6768W has a native resolution of 1,920x1,080, which should enable it to resolve every pixel of 1080i high-def sources. Like most other 1080p displays on the market, the Samsung uses a Texas Instruments DLP chip. We prefer to think of the chip as a "quasi" 1080p solution, however, because it actually has only 960x1,080 physical pixels. A process called wobulation or smooth picture is used to effectively double the horizontal resolution by making the mirrors on the chip do double duty. In contrast, LCoS-based 1080p HDTVs have chips with all 2 million-plus discrete pixels. Despite having roughly half as many pixels, wobulated chips have the potential to display all 1,920 lines, but as usual, what actually appears on the screen varies across models and manufacturers.
lol, wobulated chip.
Seriously though, you got a nice TV at a great price.
Post by: whiteblur67 on February 26, 2006, 06:06:00 PM
you would have to turn your head in madden to find your open wide receiver just like in real life
Post by: RadATI on February 26, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Vasher @ Feb 26 2006, 02:34 PM)
Dude, have you even seen the SXRD? I compared them directly, SXRD smokes Samsung.
CNet score for the SXRD= 8.8 and it received the Editor's Choice Award. There isn't any screen door affect. This TV is regarded as the best 1080p available today.
CNet score for the Samsung= 7.6
The Samsung doesn't have a true 1920x1080 pixel resolution.
This is what cnet said about the 67" model (same specs as the 61")
As we mentioned at the outset, the Samsung HL-R6768W has a native resolution of 1,920x1,080, which should enable it to resolve every pixel of 1080i high-def sources. Like most other 1080p displays on the market, the Samsung uses a Texas Instruments DLP chip. We prefer to think of the chip as a "quasi" 1080p solution, however, because it actually has only 960x1,080 physical pixels. A process called wobulation or smooth picture is used to effectively double the horizontal resolution by making the mirrors on the chip do double duty. In contrast, LCoS-based 1080p HDTVs have chips with all 2 million-plus discrete pixels. Despite having roughly half as many pixels, wobulated chips have the potential to display all 1,920 lines, but as usual, what actually appears on the screen varies across models and manufacturers.
lol, wobulated chip.
Seriously though, you got a nice TV at a great price.
"Half as many physical pixels... blah blah blah"
Yes, that is true, but the 6th gen has mirrors that reflect and deflect twice as fast as previous gens. Making an absolute true 1080p
Post by: adfinder23 on February 26, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on February 27, 2006, 12:53:00 AM
QUOTE(lilbplaya3406 @ Feb 26 2006, 12:04 PM)
The PS3 runs on 1080p
Upscaled 1080p, if anything. Don't believe everything the shepard tells you.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on February 27, 2006, 02:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Mick Garvey @ Feb 26 2006, 10:52 AM)
Also by having it upscale you will get worse picture than a 720p set
. I think its funny you spent 3 grand on a TV that cant even show the PS3 or 360 at their full potential, oh yeah and have fun buying new light bulbs for that DLP Ummmm.. no. Shut ur face and learn what ur talkin' about. First off, the pic is only bad if you have the signal scaled to a resolution other than what ur TV's native res is (usually). If you've got an LCD and you've got ur settings on 1080i, it'lll look like shit cuz ur LCD is natively 720p. And you honestly think you have ta replace bulbs that often? You'd have ta replace a plasma prolly 3x as often due to fade than you would with a DLP and it's bulbs. We're goin' on 3 years w/ our 61" DLP (which actually has the slower color wheel... first gen) and it still looks fan-fucking-tastic. We got it for $2700 when it went on sale. So $2999 isn't that bad.
I juss hope you didn't get that stand... we had gotten one and it was way too high for my taste
And the argument for 1080p is juss retarded. It'll be a LONG time before anything worth while supports it (as in the content is brodacasted is 1080p and not scaled). PS3? I'll belive it when I see it. And if it DOES support it... oh well; 1080i still looks fantastic to me, haha.
Post by: davinator456 on February 27, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
but looks like a damn nice tv
This post has been edited by davinator456: Feb 27 2006, 06:18 PM
Post by: RadATI on February 27, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Feb 27 2006, 04:11 AM)
Ummmm.. no. Shut ur face and learn what ur talkin' about. First off, the pic is only bad if you have the signal scaled to a resolution other than what ur TV's native res is (usually). If you've got an LCD and you've got ur settings on 1080i, it'lll look like shit cuz ur LCD is natively 720p. And you honestly think you have ta replace bulbs that often? You'd have ta replace a plasma prolly 3x as often due to fade than you would with a DLP and it's bulbs. We're goin' on 3 years w/ our 61" DLP (which actually has the slower color wheel... first gen) and it still looks fan-fucking-tastic. We got it for $2700 when it went on sale. So $2999 isn't that bad.
I juss hope you didn't get that stand... we had gotten one and it was way too high for my taste
And the argument for 1080p is juss retarded. It'll be a LONG time before anything worth while supports it (as in the content is brodacasted is 1080p and not scaled). PS3? I'll belive it when I see it. And if it DOES support it... oh well; 1080i still looks fantastic to me, haha.
Uhh... I did get that stand, looks ok to me though.
Plus, can you give me the model of your tv? (the 61' Samsung DLP one) ^^
QUOTE(davinator456 @ Feb 27 2006, 12:25 PM)
im guessing i have a different interpretation of the word 'cheap' but looks like a damn nice tv
Davinator, you looked at it when it was back to 4 G. It was 3 G when I bought it. Sale is over =(
Post by: trance4jim on February 27, 2006, 09:18:00 PM
uses the new lcos technology.It stands up to Dlp.They both look beautiful.Samsung is a great
company.I hate Sony.But the Sxrd is great too.You won't be dissapointed with either one.When the
Led or sed technology is ready, I'll buy one personally.You can't get much better than that.
Ps3 deveopers said that they don't see much possibility in running 1080p in most games.Maybe a puzzle game though.Definitly no dual 1080p.Sony lies a lot.See Ya!
Post by: Owtlaw333 on February 28, 2006, 01:40:00 AM
QUOTE(RadATI @ Feb 27 2006, 12:45 PM)
Uhh... I did get that stand, looks ok to me though.
Plus, can you give me the model of your tv? (the 61' Samsung DLP one) ^^
Yeah, the stand is all dependent on ur setup. If ur eye level is still near the center, you should be good. When ours was on the stand I could see the brightness fade ever so slightly at the top (no one else really noticed, but I did, so it had ta go, haha) Distance of viewing is also a factor. Ours (at the time) was about ten, twelve feet away (recomended is like 20-30ft, but I think that's rediculous and unnecessary if it's level)
I don't have the model number on hand and I don't feel like moving the set and crawling behind it with a flashlight tonight, but I'll get it for you either tomorrow or the next day. It's actually an RCA. It only supports up to 1080i with no 720p and only 1 DVI input (but we've got a reciever with HDMI ins and outs, so it's no biggie) Any DVI at the time was a luxury... now it seems to come on even the shittiest of TVs, lol.
Post by: RadATI on February 28, 2006, 08:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Feb 28 2006, 03:47 AM)
Yeah, the stand is all dependent on ur setup. If ur eye level is still near the center, you should be good. When ours was on the stand I could see the brightness fade ever so slightly at the top (no one else really noticed, but I did, so it had ta go, haha) Distance of viewing is also a factor. Ours (at the time) was about ten, twelve feet away (recomended is like 20-30ft, but I think that's rediculous and unnecessary if it's level)
I don't have the model number on hand and I don't feel like moving the set and crawling behind it with a flashlight tonight, but I'll get it for you either tomorrow or the next day. It's actually an RCA. It only supports up to 1080i with no 720p and only 1 DVI input (but we've got a reciever with HDMI ins and outs, so it's no biggie) Any DVI at the time was a luxury... now it seems to come on even the shittiest of TVs, lol.
Oh no! I can't play my xbox while sitting on the floor anymore...
Too low for that standYou were right...
Post by: Owtlaw333 on February 28, 2006, 11:38:00 PM
QUOTE(RadATI @ Feb 28 2006, 07:12 PM)
Oh no! I can't play my xbox while sitting on the floor anymore...
Too low for that standYou were right...
Yeah, definately too high for the floor. Ours is almost too high for the floor even without the stand (if ur sitting like 7ft away that is). But I believe the speakers below it make it sit higher than yours.
Oh yeah, and the model number for ours is HD61LPW42.
Post by: DragoNs on March 02, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
QUOTE(marauderrt10 @ Feb 26 2006, 02:15 PM)
Haha thats what you think, or havent you noticed they watered it down? It has no Blu-ray anymore, no bluetooth controllers, and no hard drive, im pretty sure if sony even gets a working one it will be in 1080i.
wtf are u smoking, seriously? sony even is Delaying the System FOR blu-ray...
ps - SXRD pwns this
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 03, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
QUOTE(DragoNs @ Mar 2 2006, 12:16 PM)
ps - SXRD pwns this
I wouldn't call a price tag of more than $1500 more "pwnage" as you would say (which is fuckin' retarded btw).... Find me a 61" SXRD for less than $3k.
Post by: DragoNs on March 03, 2006, 07:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Mar 3 2006, 02:19 AM)
I wouldn't call a price tag of more than $1500 more "pwnage" as you would say (which is fuckin' retarded btw).... Find me a 61" SXRD for less than $3k.
K learn to pay for the stuff thats worth it, 3k for a SXRD? and? SXRD is amazing.. i wouldnt buy samsung DLP. but w/e its personal opinion, i guess im just a sony fan.. but seriously, just cause YOU found a TV YOU like... doesnt mean its the BEST tv and everyone has to like it
Post by: Vasher on March 03, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
Like I said, good tv at a good price, but not a Great tv at a Great price. I paid $3,499 for my 60" SXRD at CC. Try and find that deal anywhere. Slick dealers didn't even believe it till I posted a pic of the tv and receipt. Got the matching stand for only $285 (goes for $599). I don't work there or even know anyone that does, I simply lucked out.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 04, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
QUOTE(DragoNs @ Mar 3 2006, 06:18 PM)
K learn to pay for the stuff thats worth it, 3k for a SXRD? and? SXRD is amazing.. i wouldnt buy samsung DLP. but w/e its personal opinion, i guess im just a sony fan.. but seriously, just cause YOU found a TV YOU like... doesnt mean its the BEST tv and everyone has to like it
Alright, let's start from the beginng. You said SXRD owns said TV (Samsung DLP for $2999). I said that for $1500 more, it hardly owns that tv (SXRD, at the lowest, $3500). So because I say it doesn't own it, I think that a DLP is better in quality? Get ur head outta ur ass and quit being defensive. No one said anything about thier TV being the best..... except ^
Post by: Vasher on March 04, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Mar 4 2006, 12:14 PM)
No one said anything about thier TV being the best..... except ^
Yeah, I said it's the best, Cnet said it's the best, and any other respected reviewer says it is. Since all non-biased reviewers say it's the best I'll agree.
Here's what Audio Video Revolution said at the end of their 60" SXRD review...
"All things considered, it seems impossible to find a better-looking picture at this price point. I do not care for the rainbow artifacts that accompany single-chip DLP projectors, so this three-chip SXRD alternative to JVCs D-ILA technology seems both expertly engineered, if a bit colored in terms of absolute visual reproduction, and precisely marketed to video and game/computer aficionados. What I can definitely say is that this rear projector looks significantly better and brighter than any other television in this price range. It is a pleasure to watch and it demands to be seen with HD program material immediately and repeatedly."
The SXRD is w/o a doubt the best TV on the market today (except for it's big brother the Sony 70" Qualia 006 SXRD). You really have to compare the sets side by side. When I looked at the big screen display wall there wasn't one other tv that even came close to the SXRD. I was sold (after shopping for awhile).
Again, the Samsung is a very nice set and would make anyone happy...
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 04, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(Vasher @ Mar 4 2006, 01:18 PM)
Yeah, I said it's the best, Cnet said it's the best, and any other respected reviewer says it is. Since all non-biased reviewers say it's the best I'll agree.
Again, no need to get deffensive over shit like this. They're just TVs! lol Like I said, I'm not arguing the SXRD isn't a good TV.... I'm not even gunna repeat anymore than that... juss read above, lol. Let's all juss say HD is a good thing
Post by: DragoNs on March 04, 2006, 03:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Mar 4 2006, 05:08 PM)
Again, no need to get deffensive over shit like this. They're just TVs! lol Like I said, I'm not arguing the SXRD isn't a good TV.... I'm not even gunna repeat anymore than that... juss read above, lol. Let's all juss say HD is a good thing
Like i dont wana start a fight man, but... you where getting a little defensive of the damn TV yourself, and it ticks me off when people do that, thats all bud... To me price doesnt matter, maybe it does for you. and yeah, ill agree HD is good either way lol
Post by: DaGamePimp on March 04, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
.Here I will set the record straight :
The Sony is superior to the Samsung from a resolution standpoint because it actually is 1080p native , wobulated 1080p DLP is not even 720p native let alone 1080p and will die a quick death since true 1080p DLP from TI is upon us .
Now do both sets have a good image , sure .
Are they both worth a few thousand bucks or more in todays market , not really .
Will they both be outdated by the end of 2006 or sooner , no doubt about it .
Bottom Line , just enjoy what you have because if you like it then that is really all that matters
.Best Wishes All ,
--DGP--
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 05, 2006, 01:41:00 PM
QUOTE(DragoNs @ Mar 4 2006, 02:33 PM)
Like i dont wana start a fight man, but... you where getting a little defensive of the damn TV yourself
Wow... ok. Was there ever a comment in any of my posts that put down any TV set? The only time I said anything close to defensive was when that mick garvey kid started spittin' shit out of his mouth. But was I ever defensive tward you or or dragon?
You guys are funny.
Post by: DragoNs on March 06, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Mar 5 2006, 03:48 PM)
Wow... ok. Was there ever a comment in any of my posts that put down any TV set? The only time I said anything close to defensive was when that mick garvey kid started spittin' shit out of his mouth. But was I ever defensive tward you or or dragon?
You guys are funny.
well you come posting that its amazing and all this blah blah, maybe some people dont like it, is that hard to accept? what if i dont like this TV and i say a personal opinion that i perfer SXRD sonys over this? do you have a problem? seriously man
Post by: Fragger420 on March 06, 2006, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 07, 2006, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE(DragoNs @ Mar 6 2006, 12:35 PM)
well you come posting that its amazing and all this blah blah, maybe some people dont like it, is that hard to accept? what if i dont like this TV and i say a personal opinion that i perfer SXRD sonys over this? do you have a problem? seriously man
WTF are you talkin' about? I don't feel like readin' through this thread again, so I would like to see a quote of when I said the TV was all high and mighty. I don't think there was even one instance that I put down any other TV except my comment about the plasma and DLP's bulbs. If you find one, let me know and I'll shut up about it. I too would prolly go with an SXRD set if it was equal in price... but it's not. Serioulsy, now ur juss makin' up issues that were never a problem.
Post by: DragoNs on March 07, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Mar 7 2006, 07:46 PM)
WTF are you talkin' about? I don't feel like readin' through this thread again, so I would like to see a quote of when I said the TV was all high and mighty. I don't think there was even one instance that I put down any other TV except my comment about the plasma and DLP's bulbs. If you find one, let me know and I'll shut up about it. I too would prolly go with an SXRD set if it was equal in price... but it's not. Serioulsy, now ur juss makin' up issues that were never a problem.
You also come type to people telling them to shut their face
pretty cool ya know, anyways im done talking to you.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on March 09, 2006, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(DragoNs @ Mar 7 2006, 08:02 PM)
You also come type to people telling them to shut their face
pretty cool ya know, anyways im done talking to you.Fantastic argument. I'm glad you could contribute to it.