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Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: VOlition on February 19, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
http://www.samsung.com/ca/products/tv/dynaflathdtv/txr2664wxxac.asp

I never have owned a high dif tv, and this is my first time. My last tv was a toshiba 27" flat screen tv. I just wanted to know if this tv is capable for the 360  power needs?
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: bigbubba7373 on February 19, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
compusa has the syntax lt26hvx lcd on sale for $499
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: VOlition on February 19, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
Syntax isnt' a famous brand right? I would like it better to be a well known brand.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: esc1 on February 19, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
I'm no expert, as I'm looking for a 30" ws hdtv myself as well, but if you just want hd for the 360 that would do.  If you got one with a built in hd tuner, you could possibly pick up hd cable broadcasts I believe.  

I think you can get some lower model 30" hd ready tv's for the price of that Samsung.  Just look around.

You may want to find one with an HDMI input as well.  Just depends on what else you want to do with the tv and how long you are going to keep it as your primary tv.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: bigbubba7373 on February 19, 2006, 12:22:00 PM
syntax is a very good brand in lcd tv,s i am getting this same tv today so i can get rid of my samsung TXR2678WH widescreen CRT HDTV
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: VOlition on February 19, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
QUOTE(esc1 @ Feb 19 2006, 11:29 AM) View Post

You may want to find one with an HDMI input as well.  


What is Hdmi?
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: bigbubba7373 on February 19, 2006, 12:44:00 PM
hdmi is a high def input
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: xboxgamer733 on February 19, 2006, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(VOlition @ Feb 19 2006, 12:49 PM) View Post
What is Hdmi?
This page explains what the HDMI inferface is.

As a suggestion for a HDTV, I recently bought this HDTV at Wal-Mart for about $577. It has an HDMI connector and a built-in HDTV tuner.

Needless to say, I highly recommend it  smile.gif
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: .i.n.s.u.l.t.s on February 19, 2006, 05:26:00 PM
QUOTE(autoxerFSP21 @ Feb 19 2006, 03:51 PM) View Post

I would shy away from LCD's at the moment. The refresh on them isn't quite fast enough and you will end up with some ghosting on fast moving games. CRT's still provide the best picture quaility in my opinion. The only thing that comes close is the HD-ILA. Plasma, DLP, and LCD are all inferior.

I'm using a panasonic 26" HDTV(ct-26wx15). Its great as long as you aren't trying to play split screen with a friend.

 

Most newer LCD's have a low response time. So thats really no longer a big issue anymore. LCD's are fine.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: DaShiZNiT on February 19, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxgamer733 @ Feb 19 2006, 01:53 PM) View Post

This page explains what the HDMI inferface is.

As a suggestion for a HDTV, I recently bought this HDTV at Wal-Mart for about $577. It has an HDMI connector and a built-in HDTV tuner.

Needless to say, I highly recommend it  smile.gif


I wouldnt get this one, mainly because of this

Digital Scanning Display Format
1080i  (all signals converted to 1080i display)
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: Skyblast on February 19, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
Yeah, after a month of researching and shopping... most CRT HDTV's only do 1080i. 720p is going to give you the best picture. LCD's look fine now. Get an 8ms response time set and you will be fine.

Personally, I ended up going with the Viewsonic N2750w. Will be here Tuesday.  happy.gif I would have liked to gotten the N3250w since it had a good rebate going as well as having HDMI, but oh well.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: GSX on February 20, 2006, 12:43:00 AM
QUOTE(DaShiZNiT @ Feb 19 2006, 09:28 PM) View Post

I wouldnt get this one, mainly because of this

Digital Scanning Display Format
1080i  (all signals converted to 1080i display)

Plus it's not widescreen. If you want HDTV then you want widescreen 16:9
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: Legendary Badass on February 20, 2006, 01:08:00 AM
I have a older Samsung 26 inch widescreen that does 1080i and i'm upset with it. It has an overscan problem that cuts off a lot of the screen. Also 1080i and 480p look the same on it because the screen isn't huge. I suggest you save up and get a 40 inch or larger tv so that HD will actually look good on it.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: xboxgamer733 on February 20, 2006, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(GSX @ Feb 20 2006, 12:50 AM) View Post
Plus it's not widescreen. If you want HDTV then you want widescreen 16:9
Actually, the Sanyo HT32744 can let you change the video mode to widescreen. When in widescreen mode, the diagonal picture size is just above 29", so not much of the screen is wasted.

I chose this TV because I wanted the a compromise between the 16:9 and 4:3 worlds, as not everything is transmitted in the 16:9 ratio. If you are watching the Olympics, for example, on a widescreen TV, some of the picture is obviously lost.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: Mick Garvey on February 20, 2006, 01:27:00 AM
WTF is with people constantly saying 1080i is worse than 720p. Sorry to burts your bubble but there is pretty much no visable difference from what Ive heard. And there is no sub 1000$ lcd that can compete with a sub 500$ crt in picture quality ATM. I would suggest waiting for the SED and Rear prog. LED Tvs and such as they are coming out by the end of the year.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: GSX on February 20, 2006, 01:57:00 AM
QUOTE(xboxgamer733 @ Feb 20 2006, 03:18 AM) View Post

Actually, the Sanyo HT32744 can let you change the video mode to widescreen. When in widescreen mode, the diagonal picture size is just above 29", so not much of the screen is wasted.

I chose this TV because I wanted the a compromise between the 16:9 and 4:3 worlds, as not everything is transmitted in the 16:9 ratio. If you are watching the Olympics, for example, on a widescreen TV, some of the picture is obviously lost.

I know what you mean about switching it to widescreen, but that leaves black bars on the bottom and top. Also you're confused about standard def being cut off on a widescreen tv. It's the other way around, 16:9 gets cut off on a 4:3 tv(unless you set it to 16:9 and have the bars), and 4:3 gets stretched to 16:9 if you dont set it up correct.

 I don't have any problem watching standard def on my widescreen tv, since my cable box can be set to display it in 4:3 without stretching with black lines on the sides. That way I can use my whole screen for 16:9 HD programing.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: xboxgamer733 on February 20, 2006, 02:35:00 AM
When displaying a 4:3 picture on a 16:9 television, either the size or quality of the image will be affected, as shown below.

IPB Image Some of the image is lost IPB Image

IPB Image The image is stretched horizontally IPB Image

IPB Image Only the sides of the image are distorted IPB Image


For now, I find that a 4:3 tube HDTV is the best choice of HDTV, because of the low price, lack of image cut-off, and sharpness and response time over LCD TVs.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: GSX on February 20, 2006, 03:07:00 AM
Yea first pic is cropped, second is stretched, not sure about the third. My point is that my standard def looks like the pic on the top left(with black bars on the side). So, I don't get cropping or stretching, just the black bars on the side. I have a 30" Philips 16:9 CRT, and I agree that crt has great picture. But I don't agree that 4:3 tv's are a good choice, 16:9 is the future. I already have 15 HD channels, and will have over 20 some time during the summer. Standard def tv is soon to be dead. Just my opinion.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: KAGE360 on February 20, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
if your going to buy a CRT HD-TV, then i would save up for atleast a 30" widescreen (like i am currently).  saving an extra $100 would be well worth the extra inches you would get.  

also like it was said before, DO NOT GET ANYTHING BUT A WIDESCREEN TV.  yes while a 4:3 ratio tv will be cheaper and you wont have any of the stretching problems found with widescreen, but you should think about it.  if you dont want any stretching on your widescreen then just have it letterboxed on the sides, either way your going to have letterboxing of some kind.  also most people are buying HDtvs for high def signals (broadcast or 360) most of which are sent in 16:9 aspect anyways.  almost everything is done in widescreen format now and you would regret it within a year if you got a 4:3 ratio tv.  

also dont bother listening about the difference between 720p and 1080i.  while i would much rather have 720p, as its supposed to be better for motion and video, in the end High def is high def and for your first TV, no matter what, im sure it will be FAR better then what your currently using.

just over the weekend i saw a philips 30" widescreen for $525, it was the floor model but that is still a damn good price.  the price for a brand new one was only $650, which is still a good price for a 30" HDTV.  in fact i will be getting that exact TV if they still have any in stock at walmart when i get my $$.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: Legendary Badass on February 20, 2006, 02:23:00 PM
If you get a large HDTV, you'll quickly want HD service. I have digital cable with a cable card in the side of the TV. HDTVs try to convert a 480i signal into at least 480p. The end result is that basic TV looks worse on an HDTV than it does a standard TV. However, HD content such as the Xbox 360 and HD channels, look supperior to motion pictures at the movie theater. On my smaller HDTV, my 26 inch Samsung, basic TV looks aweful, but not as bad as when it is blown-up on my 50 inch SXRD. The larger TV you can't even watch DVDs on because they look pathetic when compared to digital cable.

In summary, HD is effective on a large HDTV, so get HD service for it. On a smaller HDTV, you'll barely notice the difference, but you can still enjoy (somewhat) basic channels.
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: GSX on February 20, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
QUOTE(drewberg111 @ Feb 20 2006, 06:03 PM) View Post

could you guys post up a quick list of recommended hdtvs tvs that would work well where you wont loose any of the picture either.  thanks.

There is way too many tv's to list. As far as loosing picture, it all depends on your source. Like I said before, my box lets me display SDTV in letterbox with black lines on the side. If you want CRT then I would reccomend the Philips 30PW, it's cheap and works great. Now if you have $1700 to spend, then get this SCEPTRE X37SV-Naga. It supports 1080p, and has a 1920x1080 native res. You just can't get any better than that(thats my next tv).
Title: Is This Tv A Good Deal?
Post by: GSX on February 20, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
QUOTE(aexin23 @ Feb 20 2006, 10:21 PM) View Post

I am also looking for a widescreen hdtv and would you all suggest CRT or LCD/DLP/Plasma(to me its heavy tv or light tv biggrin.gif ) Which one would better picture quality for xbox 360 and tv and would have a better value at about 30" range

To me this is how quality goes(from best to worst): DLP, CRT, Plasma, LCD. To me DLP has the best picture hands down(some ppl might not agree).

Edit: Plasma is in third, because the blacks still suck.