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Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: yakpimp on January 21, 2006, 05:10:00 AM
That price is not very good. You can get a 32" for about 80 dollars more.  Yea the resolution is better, but that is because its made to be a computer monitor. I don't see any reason to play on such a small screen.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: okandroid on January 21, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
Yes, but resolution really matters. The only problem with playing it on a monitor is there's no tuner, so if you plan on watching tv on this thing then you'll need a cable box. Or a Tivo, which is what I did, the setup is kinda cumbersome but it's still looks great when I play my 360 on the highest res.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: MadPerry on January 21, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
i just purchased a widescreen 19" LCD last night for using with my PC and my 360 downstairs(got a 47" widescreen upstairs).  i love this screen.  does 1440x900 in 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i.  has DVI , RGB, Component, and composite inputs.  cost only $500.  westinghouse at best buy.  1 year warranty.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: kdx80boy on January 21, 2006, 11:22:00 AM
The best buy by me had a westing house 30" widescreen lcd hdtv for $450 the day after thanksgiving.  Although, they probably sold out of them within 10 minutes of store open.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: kdx80boy on January 21, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
It would work with the xbox360, and it would look good.  But it is not widescreen so you would end up with black bars.  I would say go with this one instead  

http://www.circuitci...roductDetail.do

Same style, but widescreen.

One suggestion though, if you are nitpicky about geometry issues like me, do not buy this tv.  If you are extremely nit picky about geometry issues, do not buy a crt tv period, every crt tv will have geometry issues unless you get extremely lucky, or pay for a pro to come out and fix it.  just my .02
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Thursday on January 21, 2006, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(stevieg987 @ Jan 21 2006, 01:40 PM) View Post

What do you mean by Black Bars and is it worth the extra 300 Dollars for the other one???

The tv you chose ( I didnt look at it, but it was said to be non-widescreen) is shaped more like a square than how the widescreen televisions are shaped, which is like a rectangle or as some refer to it 'letter-box'.

Because the tv you chose is shaped square, when you play it HD, the picture on the tv will have to adjust to fit the signal it is recieving, in which, the top and bottom will have 'black bars'. It's the same thing when you watch a DVD movie and there are black bars that are on the top and bottom of the screen so it will fit properly.

And Yes, it is worth an extra 300$ for a widescreen tv.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: kdx80boy on January 21, 2006, 01:31:00 PM
yeah, what he said.  Once you go widescreen, you won't go back.  For example in driving games, the road will become wide and you can actually move around where as on a normal 4:3 screen the road is very narrow.  in shooting games you will be able to see an entire room without looking around as much, but in 4:3 you have to look everywhere.  It just adds to the experience, and I GUARANTEE YOU WILL NOT REGRET GETTING WIDESCREEN!!!
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Ramlion-X on January 21, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
QUOTE(kdx80boy @ Jan 21 2006, 09:38 PM) View Post

yeah, what he said.  Once you go widescreen, you won't go back.  For example in driving games, the road will become wide and you can actually move around where as on a normal 4:3 screen the road is very narrow.  in shooting games you will be able to see an entire room without looking around as much, but in 4:3 you have to look everywhere.  It just adds to the experience, and I GUARANTEE YOU WILL NOT REGRET GETTING WIDESCREEN!!!

true dat ,,true dat  i got a 32flat dell tv/monitor and its god awfull on the eyes its like eye porn... muhaha.gif and with dvds in widescreen format its beautifull...
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Greenpants200 on January 22, 2006, 10:42:00 AM
Alright here I come, super noob on the scene.  What are geometry issues?
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: kdx80boy on January 22, 2006, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Greenpants200 @ Jan 22 2006, 12:49 PM) View Post

Alright here I come, super noob on the scene.  What are geometry issues?


A simple answer is if you have a straight line go across the tv (like in the loading for project gotham 3) it will not be completely straight.  It may be bent inward or outward or even a little sideways.  For the most part, you only notice it during loading screens and dvd's where there are black bars.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: AClayeJ on January 22, 2006, 01:41:00 PM
QUOTE(kdx80boy @ Jan 21 2006, 01:42 PM) View Post

It would work with the xbox360, and it would look good.  But it is not widescreen so you would end up with black bars.  I would say go with this one instead  

http://www.circuitci...roductDetail.do

Same style, but widescreen.

One suggestion though, if you are nitpicky about geometry issues like me, do not buy this tv.  If you are extremely nit picky about geometry issues, do not buy a crt tv period, every crt tv will have geometry issues unless you get extremely lucky, or pay for a pro to come out and fix it.  just my .02

True, I have this TV. The Samsung 30" HD Widescreen. Real good price for the size and HD of the TV. I like it and haven't had any problems out of it.

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I looked and read everywhere about an HD TV around this size and price and finally chose the Samsung. I even looked at LCD's too, but for the price range I had, I would have had to get an entry level LCD and maybe even smaller in size. But, what exactly are geometry issues? I haven't noticed anything on mine so far. But, again I don't know what geometry issues are, so! lol

To the guy that wanted the 27" version of this TV: Get the 30" one, you'll like it better. I also got mine at Circuit City too. Got it for about $100 cheaper than anywhere else. Word, on the comment about once you go wide screen, you never go back.



Edit: Nevermind I see the reply about geometry issues now. Thanks.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: the_iLLmatic_one on January 22, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
U should get a SONY 24" GDM-FW900 CRT MONITOR. Wide screen. 22.5'' viewable screen. FD Trinitron tube. Max resolution 2304X1440. this thing is a beast. it was discontinued in 2002. some say it blows past any crt or lcd tv on the market today. also heard it weighs a ton too. these thing cost over 2 grand when they came out. u can get a refurb one for about $250-$500 on ebay. will be getting one very soon rolleyes.gif

This site has one for $480 with free shipping
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: kdx80boy on January 22, 2006, 02:43:00 PM
AClaye, that tv is awesome.  If you mount it in an entertainment center or somehow get just the screen through the wall, people will think it is the sharpest plasma out there, hehe.

One suggestion though, DON'T START LOOKING FOR GEOMETRY ISSUES.  It's best if you never look for them because you will probably never find them unless you are specifically looking for them.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: AClayeJ on January 22, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(kdx80boy @ Jan 22 2006, 04:50 PM) View Post

AClaye, that tv is awesome.  If you mount it in an entertainment center or somehow get just the screen through the wall, people will think it is the sharpest plasma out there, hehe.

One suggestion though, DON'T START LOOKING FOR GEOMETRY ISSUES.  It's best if you never look for them because you will probably never find them unless you are specifically looking for them.

Thanks, yeah it is the smallest CRT I've ever seen. To a non-tech person, they would think it's an LCD or plasma. lol But yeah, I haven't noticed any geometry problems at all so far.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: ksw870 on January 25, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
Ok, I'm seriously thinking about getting that SONY 24" GDM-FW900 CRT MONITOR, but I have a few questions...
1) Will I be able to watch TV through it? I heard you can do so with a TiVo or Cable Box and I have both...
2) What would I use for audio? I got my set up ghetto rigged right now. i got a cheap 26" tv with mono sound, but i got a small 15" tv with surround sound built into it...I pretty much feed everything to my surround sound tv and use the 26" one as a monitor, using the video input on it.
3) How would I be able to plug my DVD play and stuff like that up to it?

I'm a noob when it comes to HDTV's and monitors, so please, be gentle!

Or should I just break down and buy an LCD TV? I was thinking about getting that 30" samsung, but I'm afraid that it will break my particle board tv stand, since it weighs in at 120 lbs.

My budget is probally not going to be over 850$, since I work part time and have a car payment. I'm getting around 700$ back on my tax return and I can probally spare around 150 or so.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: ksw870 on January 26, 2006, 12:24:00 AM
actually...ithink i changed my mind to the lcd that the original guy posted...i did some research and it didnt sound bad...plus im pretty sure i can use it for tv too
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 26, 2006, 12:40:00 AM
Yes but a crt image quality, let alone a pc monitor, will kill any lcd's in terms of dark levels and color vibrance.

You cannot beat a sony trinitrons flat crt pc monitor in picture quality with anything else, and that goes for any plasma, lcd, or dlp.  The only down side is the size, but at 24" widescreen is nothing to scoff at.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: lostboyz on January 26, 2006, 12:51:00 AM
QUOTE(prplehz @ Jan 22 2006, 11:58 AM) View Post

Widescreen all the way. I have a 50 inch pioneer plasma and I love it. The only complaint is when I play fps games I have to actualy move my eyes to see everything when scanning an area, lol.. But that just adds to realilsm I guess lol... A tip on size is only get a tv that you can sit twice the width of the screen away from. In other words if you buy a 32 inch make sure you can sit 64 inches away. It may sound weird but that is actualy suposed to be the best viewing distance. Seems to hold true from what I have seen.  Good luck and enjoy..


not being nitpicky or anything but tvs and monitors sizes are measured diagonally
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Foe-hammer on January 26, 2006, 12:52:00 AM
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To optimize this monitor's performance, your system must be able to support WUXGA resolution (1920x1200).


The sony 24" fw900 crt's native res is the same, but it is a crt so not an issue.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: ksw870 on January 26, 2006, 10:53:00 AM
Well then what is a good LCD monitor that can support the 360's native resolution and still play in 1080i when the time comes?

that is a good price
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: hardcandy on January 26, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(ksw870 @ Jan 26 2006, 01:00 PM) View Post

Well then what is a good LCD monitor that can support the 360's native resolution and still play in 1080i when the time comes?

that is a good price


You will get more for your money with a CRT- but it will be heavy, and probably big.
LCD's at a decent size and a decent resolution will be a minimum $1000 with a great deal/price cut/coupon available to you.

Plasma, add on another $500 to the price of a LCD of whatever size you are looking at.
A DLP projector would be another option to get a good resolution and size for the xbox 360.
So you really need to decide- How big? How much? what types are you willing to consider?  Then you can get some good recommendations

Zenith C37V32
 is what I use, it is a CRT, weighs 150 lbs. It runs around $800 if you can find one, Best Buy is where I got mine. And what is nice, I can watch the ball game and play xbox with the split screen feature- it has two tuners.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: sniper11 on January 26, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
I got a Samsung 23 inch  LCD hdtv just for gaming i got it for a good price and it looks great.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: ksw870 on January 26, 2006, 04:13:00 PM
what about this tv 30 in Widescreen HDTV

what is a QAM digital receiver
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: hardcandy on January 26, 2006, 06:05:00 PM
That would be a good one, nice price. QAM is probably some Philips Electronics term.
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: MajestacaL on January 27, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
QUOTE(ksw870 @ Jan 27 2006, 12:20 AM) View Post

what about this tv 30 in Widescreen HDTV

what is a QAM digital receiver



The QAM Tuners actually decodes HD signals running through cable lines its a nice feature mostly sonys have them I wish they put em in all the tv's definatly a nice feature no antenna or other bs needed for HD but that's only if your cable company has the HD service. As for a LCD I just bought a Soyo 32" LCD specs below from www.ecost.com for 875.00 with 50.00 rebate the screen is made by LG its a really nice LCD for the price.

Dymond Series 32" HD-Ready LCD TV - DYLTO32A

1366 x 768 Pixel Resolution

16.7 Million Display Colors

1200:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio

Ultra-Fast 8ms Response Time

16:9 Aspect Ratio

176 Degree Horizontal and Vertical Viewing

One Year Limited Warranty

Graphics Info
 Resolution: 1366 x 768 px
 Tuner: NTSC
 HDMI or DVI Input: 1
 D-Sub Input: 1
 Component A/V Input: 2
 S-Video Input: 2
 Composite A/V Input: 2
Display Supported
 Screen: PAP / PIP
 Compatible Modes: NTSC (480i), HDTV (480p, 720p, 1080i)
 Size Adjustment: Normal / Wide / Fill-all / Zoom / Anamorphic
 Color Adjustment: HI / MID / LO / User
 Advanced: Automatic black/white, Stretch, Outline Enhancemebt, Backlight Adjustment, Digital Video Focus, 3:2 Pull-Down, Progressive Scan, Closed-Caption Decoder, V-Chip, Digital 3D-Comb Filter, 3D Color Management, Sleep Function
Audio Description
 Two 20-Watt Speakers, 3D Surround Sound
 MTS
Battery Information
 Remote control requires two AAA batteries (included)
Display Information
 Screen: PAP / PIP
 Compatible Modes: NTSC (480i), HDTV (480p, 720p, 1080i)
 Size Adjustment: Normal / Wide / Fill-all / Zoom / Anamorphic
 Color Adjustment: HI / MID / LO / User
 Advanced: Automatic black/white, Stretch, Outline Enhancemebt, Backlight Adjustment, Digital Video Focus, 3:2 Pull-Down, Progressive Scan, Closed-Caption Decoder, V-Chip, Digital 3D-Comb Filter, 3D Color Management, Sleep Function
Front Panel
 Mute, Volume -/+, Channel -/+, TV/AV, Power
Power Supply
 Voltage: 120 Volts, 60 Hz
 Consumption: 200W
 Connector: 3-pin plug
Dimension Description
 Active Display Area: 15.4" (vertical), 27.5" (horizontal), 32" (diagonal)
 Physical (W H D): 37.8" x 23.7" x 4.7"
Weight
 Net: 48.5 lbs / 22 kg
 Gross: 57.3 lbs / 26kg

Certification
 FCC, CE, UL
Compatibilities

Technical Specifications
 Panel: LG 32" Wide Screen
 Display Area: 15.4” (vertical) x 27.5” (horizontal); 32” (diagonal)
 Resolution: 1366 x 768
 Aspect Ratio: 16:9
 Dynamic Contrast Ratio: 1200:1
 Viewing Angle: 176 degrees horizontal 176 degrees vertical
 Light Source: 50,000 hours (typ)
 Response Time: 8ms
 Brightness: 600 nits (typ)
 Display Colors: 16.7 million
 Surface Treatment: Anti-glare
Warranty
All SOYO products are designed to offer stability and flexibility, and are tested to ensure highest reliability. We offer a 1 year limited warranty on this SOYO product.

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Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Johnny Johnson on January 27, 2006, 08:58:00 AM
This Sony 30" HDTV has gotten great reviews and can be found for under $1000.  So if you don't mind the extra weight of a crt/tube tv then this may be something to consider, as tube tv's are on par with, or exceed the picture quality of most LCDs and Plasma displays.

http://www.sonystyle.......27"to32"TVs
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: Chancer on January 27, 2006, 09:59:00 AM
QAM is Quadrature Amplitude Modulation
Title: A Perfect Hd Flatscreen For The 360 That's Pretty Cheap
Post by: ksw870 on January 27, 2006, 03:14:00 PM
damn that soyo looks nice too...i cant make up my mind