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Title: Whats Best
Post by: COMSPYDER on December 31, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
I have a xbox plan on getting an 360 what will do me better i plan on getting a screen >42 rear projection let me know by answering dlp or LDC and if you know of a good model for gaming pc and xbox write her down!!!!!!

thanx
Title: Whats Best
Post by: Altima NEO on December 31, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
dlp is definately the pimp of the projection screens
Title: Whats Best
Post by: Mick Garvey on December 31, 2005, 01:13:00 PM
No contest it is DLP all the way for performance. They are also pretty slim now too. The only thing LCD has on DLP is size and viewing angle.
Title: Whats Best
Post by: COMSPYDER on January 03, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
So  go with DLP yeah kind figured that.   Well what other options do I have to go with here I mean what other monitors do you guys suggest cause evey time I talk to my wife about it it seems my budget keeps getting lower and lower!!!!!! Marriage got to love it..............................
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Post by: zizux on January 03, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
I'm also looking. The problem I have is an exact space requirement. The samsung dlp is the only 42" that will fit.

But I'm thinking about getting a westinghouse 37" lcd for the fact that its 1080i native as such running pc games and using it for a monitor for a "media center PC" would be a better choice due to the higher resolution, but its a little smaller screen, and a little more money.

Any input on using DLP with a PC?
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Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on January 03, 2006, 01:41:00 PM
dlp>lcd no contest in my books
Title: Whats Best
Post by: COMSPYDER on January 04, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
OK might be shooting myself in the foot but what are the downsides of using a hdtv CRT rear projection?

I have now learned from a good source the DLP has no burn worries

I have learned that Plamas are the worse for this but also that LCD can burn and that CRT can burn as well but it takes alot for a CRT to do this   (static images)  the source i got for the lcd says that he fixing them all the time at some virtuaul golf range that uses lcd projectors and flat panels.  Any ways

SO CRT any good or tell the wife i am sticking with the DLP like it or not.
Title: Whats Best
Post by: zizux on January 04, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
I just got the samsung 42" DLP last night.

It is well just awesome. However IMO normal TV looks better on a normal TV. But xbox 360 and HighDef stations are AWESOME.
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Post by: ikecomp on January 04, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
I agree with everybody for the most part that DLPs are better but I have tried multiple samsungs and have noticed lag in each and every one. If you are going to get a samsung take your 360 up there with FPS games like PDZ and Halo and also try out sports games where timing is key. Thats what I did and the lag was horrible (tested HLRxx67 series dlps). I suggest if you are still interested in a DLP to try another manufacturer. I myself will be getting a Panasonic LCD-RP. The black levels are not as good as the samsung but with a side by side comparison I didn't notice a difference in picture quality when viewing HD programming.
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Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on January 04, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
QUOTE(ikecomp @ Jan 4 2006, 10:41 PM) View Post

I agree with everybody for the most part that DLPs are better but I have tried multiple samsungs and have noticed lag in each and every one. If you are going to get a samsung take your 360 up there with FPS games like PDZ and Halo and also try out sports games where timing is key. Thats what I did and the lag was horrible (tested HLRxx67 series dlps). I suggest if you are still interested in a DLP to try another manufacturer. I myself will be getting a Panasonic LCD-RP. The black levels are not as good as the samsung but with a side by side comparison I didn't notice a difference in picture quality when viewing HD programming.

if im not mistaken samsungs have a speacial AV connection set that is completly free of lag, and that lag didnt even occur unless you were feeding it non 720p(bigger models 1080p) signal
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Post by: ikecomp on January 04, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
I haven't heard of this special lag free set. Any links would be greatly appreciated. I took my 360 up there with the supplied HD component cables and trust me there was lag. I set the 360 to 720p and 1080i and the lag was still there. I'm not saying that all DLP's are like this but the samsung series that I tested all had this problem.
Title: Whats Best
Post by: COMSPYDER on January 05, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
So is there a crt rear projection hdtv that will handel the following:
xbox360
xbox
pc
dvd
dish network (will be getting a hdtv tuner)
game cube
n64

or any big screen set with out lag I still want a dlp screen but with the lag issues..............

dont want a LCD cause i cant stand screen door never seen a rainbow effect,  plasma screw that i know i will burn a image on it as soon as i get it.  Let me know
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Post by: ikecomp on January 05, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
Go to Circuit city and try out the Sony and Panasonic LCD rear projection sets. The don't have lag, rainbow effect or burn in issues. Look to see if you notice any screen door effect. But with doing so also take into account the viewing distance that you will most likely have at home. The further you sit away from it the less of a factor it is.

Also each one of those brands has a vga input. I also tried my normal xbox with composite hookups and they worked fine with no lag issues. Only thing is that since the contrast is really good you'll notice imperfections a lot quicker.

Other than that, I think any of those is an excellent option
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Post by: COMSPYDER on January 09, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
ok I am sure this is stated somewhere but i will ask here any ways.  when the tv says hdtv tuner built in does this mean it will automatically convert the signal it recieves to a hd signal or is it just for the broadcast hd signal.  and what does hdtv ready imply?
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Post by: ikecomp on January 09, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
HD tuner built-in means that if your area broadcasts some channels in HD, your tv can automatically tune in to them without any type of cable service or anything.

HD ready means that you have the hookups necessary and that you will need some type of cable box and service to tune in or receive HD programming.
Title: Whats Best
Post by: ikecomp on January 11, 2006, 03:08:00 AM
QUOTE(CKwik240 @ Jan 11 2006, 02:48 AM) View Post

I don't think it's a DLP related issue.  My 46" Toshiba DLP has no lag.



Thats why I said try another manufacturer besides samsung. I don't believe its necessarily a problem with DLP itself but with samsungs line of DLP's.
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Post by: COMSPYDER on January 11, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
OK I think i found the tv that i truly want yeah it aint DLP but I like the Sony line tell me what ya think if you got one and if you like it or not:

TV that I want

not to mention when i do lan on getting it is the week before the super bowl so i am sure there will be a sale goin on for the big screen tvs.
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Post by: ikecomp on January 11, 2006, 09:04:00 AM
At the moment Sony is at the top of the list as far as LCD Rear Projection goes according to most websites. But I tried 44" version of that TV along side the Panasonic LCD Rear Projection and as far as games goes the Panasonic just looked a little better.  But when I was just looking at Monday Night Football HD and ESPN HD a didn't notice a difference at all. I would honestly recommend the Sony. But you are going to pay a little more than other brand names because of the Sony name. But whatever you do atleast test the tv out in the store with your video games to make sure it suits your needs because in the end only your opinion truly matters.
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Post by: COMSPYDER on January 11, 2006, 01:51:00 PM
that was probrably true last year but with the way the new laws for returns go I highly doubt that will happen and most staores will only give in staore credit (refund on a gift card for there store only.  so i dont think i will see to many open box deals this year.
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Post by: krims0n on January 11, 2006, 03:45:00 PM
I have this TV and like it a lot. You have to put up with a bit of screendooring, but when get into a game or movie you don't notice it. Blacks and refresh time on it are more than acceptable for an RPLCD.
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Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on January 11, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
lcd technology is bad IMHO, LCOS is not living up to what it was supposed to either with its silk screen effect+no true blacks

really for PQ CRT is end all, LCD is about the lowest end of the HD PQ chain
Title: Whats Best
Post by: COMSPYDER on January 12, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Ballz2TheWallz @ Jan 12 2006, 03:01 AM) View Post

lcd technology is bad IMHO, LCOS is not living up to what it was supposed to either with its silk screen effect+no true blacks

really for PQ CRT is end all, LCD is about the lowest end of the HD PQ chain



can you explain this a little more in detail