Post by: IAmCanadian on December 06, 2005, 11:53:00 PM
Well, I would like to pay monthly when I buy a TV, so I thought of dell, I had a dell monitor, and it has GREAT quality.
Well, here is the link: Click me!
it's $5,152.16 including a 10 Outlet Isolator PureAV Protector
I would be paying $131/month for 48 months... is this a good deal?
Post by: Mick Garvey on December 07, 2005, 12:14:00 AM
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
http://www.tigerdire...6&sku=S224-5004
$4319.96 CND including shipping.. but I can't pay by month..
I NEED to pay by month, I don't have a credit card with 4.5grand on it
oh yeah.. I may have not mentioned, but the dell price is CND.
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 12:56:00 AM
I can't pay all at once... I'm falling in love with this dell more and more by the second..
Post by: xboxmodder4life on December 07, 2005, 06:04:00 AM
But i'm not really sure about the plasma technology i'm more of a DLP person my self. But it does look like a nice tv.
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
Post by: The Anarchist on December 07, 2005, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(kserge5534 @ Dec 7 2005, 02:44 PM) 
I would think more about the burn in risk, LCDs are comperable in that size range and have no risk of burn in, it doesnt take as long as you would think because the little power bars or health meters that stay on the screen the whole time you play are what really causes damage.
I've been reading on, posting on the dell forums.. all of this burn-in is over hyped..
If you do it correctly, not playing games 24/7 (I wont be)
not watching tv channels all the time with those awful icons in the bottom right corner, or watching 4:3 dvd's all the time will stop the burn-in
Post by: ikecomp on December 07, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Dec 7 2005, 04:32 PM)
I've been reading on, posting on the dell forums.. all of this burn-in is over hyped..
If you do it correctly, not playing games 24/7 (I wont be)
not watching tv channels all the time with those awful icons in the bottom right corner, or watching 4:3 dvd's all the time will stop the burn-in
True but why place those viewing restrictions on your self.
Post by: mikebpi2 on December 07, 2005, 05:08:00 PM
*NEVER* buy an LCD TV for gaming. The refresh times are around 5x more than plasmas, making them ugly as hell for action scenes in games and regular TV. You will see 'ghosting' and 'trails' since they are so slow.
DLP's aren't a bad option either.
To be honest if I was spending the money you are, I would go with the new Sony SXRD's. Their newest versions came out a few months ago and are 1080p. Their visual quality is right at Plasma at a lower price per inch and no risk of burn in (even though it is very small).
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 07, 2005, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE(ikecomp @ Dec 7 2005, 04:44 PM)
True but why place those viewing restrictions on your self.
they arn't really viewing restrictions, most of the time it's only if you're watching tv and the little icon thing is solid, and you're watching it 5 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, when there will be burn in.
I only know of one channel that has a solid icon, Spike TV.
All the other channels I watch usually go translucent after 30 seconds, or dissapear..
As it is, I don't play that many games, and it would be a nice addition to my home.
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 08, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: eversio11 on December 08, 2005, 06:55:00 PM
Just shop around at a retailer, a lot of them offer financing options. I know Best Buy is offering no interest until 2008.
And come on, be realistic, you're willing to pay $130 for FOUR YEARS? Don't you have bills, college loans, etc to pay for? What happens if you lose your job?
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 08, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: eversio11 on December 09, 2005, 12:13:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Dec 8 2005, 10:28 PM)
No, I'm not that old, I would be able to pay it off in about 1 year... so it isn't that bad.
You're still in high school and you're planning on buying a $5000 TV?
Kids these days..
Post by: deacon187 on December 09, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
Post by: spinr34 on December 10, 2005, 12:24:00 PM
burn in on lcd's does exist but they call it "image persistence" and usually can be correct pretty easy if it does occur. Everything you get is prone to burn in, that's just how it is. some have more resistance than others but nothing is completely risk free of burn in. i say just buy what you want, look at some in real life at stores so you can compare quality. someone else mentioned the sony sxrd, i'd say it'd be a good thing to look into. but yeah, just buy what you want, you're the one using it ;p
Post by: unrealskill on December 10, 2005, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: JaredC01 on December 11, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
If you're stuck on Dell, look at the two on the left here...
http://www1.ca.dell....DHS1&l=en&s=dhs
There are many other options though. I'd personally go LCD over plasma, but that's just me.
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on December 11, 2005, 12:07:00 PM
Post by: IAmCanadian on December 11, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
Do you know how they judge the life span of a plasma?
Leave it running untill it reaches 50% of it's original brightness, which in this case, is 30,000 hours.. I don't know about you, but I dont leave my tv on 24/7.. Maybe 5 hours out of the day.
It's not going in my bedroom so I have plenty of room to view it
Post by: shooptek on December 13, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
Because in my opinion (and I am sure many others agree) CRT HDTV's still have the sharpest, cripest picture out there, any way you look at it.
Look for a really nice CRT, there are definetly some out there, and they are definetly cheaper than that Dell Plasma.
Post by: nextlevelmp on December 14, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Dec 7 2005, 03:40 PM)
I wont play 360 24/7 on it. so I should be fine.
I agree with the idea of going to future shop and applying for a card. As far as plasma burn or "static retention" I play xbox, ps2 and 360 all the time for hours at a time on my days off and zero issues. Its ok to play on plasmas as long as you know how to protect them. You want to avoid playing or watching things in the 4:3 aspect ratio (square screen with lines on the sides). You can burn in the bars over time. Games are the same but if you play everything and make it fill the screen, you have little to fear short of putting the tv on pause for a long period of time. Ten to 15 minutes is nothing to worry about as plasmas have software built in these days to avoid such problems. Mine has something called "orbitor' which moves the pixels clockwise in 2 minute invervals to avoid them being in the same place all the time at the same temperature. They do have the sharpest picture along with flat panel lcds but plasma has a better motion on screen due to lcd having a very slow ms speed in almost all cases. Dlp is good but like projection lcds, the bulbs do not last long and go for anywhere up to 150 to 400+ per 3000 to 8000 hours! We replace them almost every 6 months at my retail electronics store I work at. My home theater department constantly has to replace bulbs.
I would also try to get the highest resolution you can afford. You can get most plasmas in the 50 inch range with 1366x 768 which is really sharp. There are a handful of lcd flat panels with 1920 x 1080 resolution but they are uber expensive right now. I suggest Pioneer or the panasonic ONYX series. The onyx series by panasonic has the best motion on screen so far! This thing moves better than anything you have ever seen before. Take note of how easy it moves from left to right and you will see the difference. The Pioneer also has a beautiful motion on screen, its own media box which allows you to plug all your equiptment into it and it has more jacks than most plasmas as well as one of the only plasmas that has 3by 3 pulldown for a better framerate(simple definition). Future shop is really best buy for Canada. I dont know if they carry pioneer at future shop but you can get no interest in most cases or low interest for 48 months. A great option for monthly payments. MY best words of advice, no matter the tv... BUY THE BEST quality wiring for picture, get a power surge unit and a voltage stabalizer and it will add about 4 years average life to all your equiptment. A service plan is also a really good idea too. I only wish I could tell you how many pieces I have seen come back defective over the years after the 30 day return time is up. Working at circuit city, best buy and sears in the past, I can't strees this enough. Hope you get something out of this extremely long reply. Sorry for such a long explaination people.
Post by: webslinginwr22 on December 19, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
Most newer plasmas have been tested for burn-in. It usually takes 48 hours of a single still picture to burn the image in. Even if there is some slight burn-in after hours and hours of a still image it usually goes away after a few minutes of a picture that is moving. And yes, the half-life on most newer plasmas are near 60,000 hours.
Speaking of burn-in, LCD's are also at risk to burn-in. Go into a best buy and check out some of their LCD tvs that are hooked up to computers and change the screen, you'll see the best buy "screen saver" burnt in. DLP has no chance for burn-in and if ur lookin for a big screen for less money/inch, it's a good choice.
To the person that said to go w/ a 37" CRT, they still have risk of burn-in, they weigh around 250 lbs, they take up a lot of space, you can see the "pixels" on them much easier than most other tvs, oh and they're still usually around $1500 US (sony).
If you can afford it, check out the 50" Sony SXRD projection. They're Sony's newest LCoS (Liquid Crystal on Silicon). This TV has a 1080 native resolution, higher than any other tv that we currently have at our best buy (including the pioneer plasma). I played my 360 on this Sony the first day that i had it. It was amazing. No "ghosting" or motion blur, bright, awesome picture, and the colors and contrast are damn near plasma quality.
So, I brought my 360 in again and hooked it up to a couple other tvs because I myself am lookin to get a new big screen. First I tried a 42" LG plasma, not to bad of a picture on this one, the blacks in the games were nice and dark. Then I tried the 42" Toshiba, the picture was nice, but the blacks were kind of hazy and there was slight color bleeding around the edges of characters and objects when looking around in COD 2.
After playin the 360 in the store for about 3 hours (it was my day off), I decided to go w/ the 50" Sony SXRD.
All in all, dont listen to all the rumors out there about plasmas, yes they can get burn-in, if you leave it on for 48 hours of a still picture. CRT's and LCD's can also get burn-in, but even those will take a long time for it to happen. DLP is the only type of tv that CANNOT get burn-in, and they are usually cheaper $$ per inch.
So, it really comes down to, what size you want, how much space do you want to save, and what picture quality you want.