Post by: nfs911 on November 25, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
Post by: chochamu on November 25, 2005, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: eversio11 on November 25, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
QUOTE(chochamu @ Nov 25 2005, 10:28 AM) 
i was wondering because with my setup i wan't to max out quality and especially sound becasue of the 5.1 for every game the 360 has. Right now i run the composite wires to a switch box and then from there they go to my projector. a nice 8 foot wide screen to play on is great but anyhow, will the monster composite cables lose any benefits once they reach the switch box?
That has seriously got to be the worst connection setup I have ever heard of. What kind of switch box are we talking about, one of those cheap plastic ones in the video game section?
Post by: redwolf on November 25, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
QUOTE(nfs911 @ Nov 25 2005, 04:40 PM)
On xbox 1, I got these $59.99 AV cables from Monster Cables. The picture didn't look any better and then I returned them the next day. I guess it depends on your setup.
there is "noticeable" improvements, but not worth to what they cost.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on November 26, 2005, 02:29:00 AM
Post by: Owtlaw333 on November 26, 2005, 11:58:00 PM
QUOTE(chochamu @ Nov 26 2005, 04:40 AM)
no it is not a cheap plastic one from the video game section, this switch is made for hdtv and only has component inputs.
You just said you are running composite to a switch box... so which is it? Component or composite?
And just because it's "made for HDTV's" doesn't mean it isn't cheap...
Post by: eversio11 on November 27, 2005, 03:37:00 PM
QUOTE(chochamu @ Nov 27 2005, 03:39 PM)
i'm using the component cables that came with the premium package sorry....
You asked about the composite monster cables. So you're using component cables now, but you want to know about the composite monster cables?
Post by: Owtlaw333 on November 27, 2005, 08:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Sleeve @ Nov 27 2005, 03:05 PM)
Wrap the conveyor belt in aluminum shielding, and a lot more filings get past the magnet undisturbed. Wrap it with three layers and a decent gauge wire mesh, like Monster sells...
Don't forget the injected Nitrogen
, lol.
Post by: MJFOSTER77 on November 27, 2005, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: Owtlaw333 on November 27, 2005, 11:46:00 PM
The thing is, you have to have a REALLY good display to see any improvements just by switching to a certain brand or make of cable. Hell, there was minimal difference in quality of picture switching from component to DVI on our 61" DLP. Noticeable, but minimal. Was it worth the extra 75 bucks to go to DVI? Yeah... I think so (if not for the quality, then for the peace of mind, lol). But will it be worth it to you to spend an extra 50-70 to just switch to a "higher-end" version of what you already have? Probably not. Unless, like already said, you're running 20+ ft of cable accross a room that may carry alot of interference straight from one device to the display, I don't see the need to spend more money.
Post by: skylined on November 28, 2005, 12:18:00 PM
Post by: zombie4rave on November 29, 2005, 07:59:00 AM
Post by: aepuppetmaster on November 29, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
). i bought a cheap 12$ optical cable online and i thought i'd put them side by side and see how the light looked. the cheap cable was hazzed over, but the monster remianed crystal clear (with the white light). Well i have not tested out the sound quality to see if i noticed a diffrence (and for the optical it would have to be a lot to justify the 60$ i would have to spend) i did notice that the monster cable's quality did rock.Edit: My bad the optical cable would have only been like 20-30$ more, maybe when i get some $$$
Post by: tuknuh on November 29, 2005, 11:09:00 PM
anything under 6 feet won't make a difference... even the crapiest cables will match the image quality of high end ones...
with that said...
check out monoprice.com ... that's probably the lowest price you're going to find on "good" cables... best place for dvi cables...
and yes, monster is way marked up... $100 cables really worth $20... etc... same sh*t with bose ... don't believe the marketing... and don't believe salespeople... (e.g. monster cables is best buy's biggest profit return...)
Post by: Owtlaw333 on November 30, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
QUOTE(aepuppetmaster @ Nov 29 2005, 03:31 PM)
the cheap cable was hazzed over, but the monster remianed crystal clear (with the white light).
Did you put a flashlight to it or something? The light that gets transmitted is red, not white.
And of course Best Buy is going to have expensive cables... that's what they're known for. They'll keep their electronics at a decent price while they'll rape you with cables. Stick to online retailers and ebay for that kind of stuff.
Post by: aepuppetmaster on November 30, 2005, 05:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Nov 30 2005, 10:52 AM)
Did you put a flashlight to it or something? The light that gets transmitted is red, not white.
well i put one end to my light and saw. i also put it to diffrent sold color areas (sam of course) on my monitors(lcd) and saw how it did. it was informal, but i was convinced. on another note tho, i was not able to notice a sound diffrence when i used that one, maybbe cuz of my system. it also maybe cuz i was playing pdz, not really paying atention and it was not like dvd quality audio.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on December 01, 2005, 01:52:00 PM
QUOTE(zombie4rave @ Dec 1 2005, 08:21 AM)
Its light man. You either have it or you dont. Theres not going to be any sound difference in optical cables. Either it works or it doesnt. The only differences are going to be in the construction/duribility of the cable.
Umm.. no. The quality of light matters. Over a certain length (just like any cable) the light degrades/fades. Also, some cables are just shit... foggy, or scratched outta the box. When the lights is disrupted by scrathes or fades, there's a loss in quality. Yes, if it is too disrupted, it will just not work, but there is a loss of quailty with anything less.
Post by: zombie4rave on December 01, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE
Umm.. no. The quality of light matters. Over a certain length (just like any cable) the light degrades/fades. Also, some cables are just shit... foggy, or scratched outta the box. When the lights is disrupted by scrathes or fades, there's a loss in quality. Yes, if it is too disrupted, it will just not work, but there is a loss of quailty with anything less.
The cable would have to be very long to create any kind of loss problems. Youre talking about a 6 to 12 foot cable in most cases. Loss shouldnt be a big problem unless the cable is VERY poor. If there is a scratch then you have a bad cable. Thats a given. If the signal is marginal error correction will kick in on your equiptment. If its too poor for the error correction to overcome then yes, you will hear it but it will be clicks, dropouts or digital noise. There will be audible errors. It wont be the type of situation where you can say one sounds better than another. If the light was distrupted completely or intermittenly youd lose your signal. But if its getting through at least reasonably well you'll never know the difference. If youre hearing clear sound you have a good cable. I still say the biggest difference is going to be duribilty. How it reacts to bends and aging. Its not going to be something like 'this one lets the light through easier so it sounds better." If youre talking copper cabling then theres much more room to argue but with optical any decent quality, undamaged cable is as good as the next. If you dont believe me, try it.
Post by: Owtlaw333 on December 01, 2005, 10:01:00 PM
QUOTE(zombie4rave @ Dec 1 2005, 02:01 PM)
The cable would have to be very...............
Exactly what I was sayin'... minus the in depthness of ur post, lol. I aggree that durability should come first in choosing a cable because chances are that any cable will work just dandy outta the box. (Hell, I still use a cheap RadioShack cable I got way back when for the PS2) I've only heard of one person getting a scratched cable right out of the package.
Post by: zombie4rave on December 02, 2005, 06:04:00 AM
