Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
Saint's Row is a GTA-like game created by THQ. The game features gangs, just like the territory system as seen in, you know what. The real kicker is what I personally look forward to, the customization. White - Black, Fat - Scrawny, you can customize your character to your exact liking. Since, the game was seen behind closed doors, I couldn't really tell what the missions were going to be like, but GP said that they would be based on prior actions in the game. The cars are customizeable as well, and you know, since it is on the Xbox 360, that mean MORE. MORE cars, and options to do with them. Cool features are in no short supply here, I even find MYSELF not trying to hype this hame out. GP made it clear that there would be NO load times when in travel like in Vice City.
From the trailer that I saw, there was some instances of, cough, sexualy themes, so plan on seing prostitues. Drive-bys are said to be easier now, with new controls, so no Ghetto Mods, sorry XboxXbox451. The graphics in the preview were just incredible. Imagine Driver 3, and GTA: SA combined, but on a X360 system. I look forward to this game and all of it's features.
One downside that was pointed out was the lack of air vehicles. Sorry, people, no army helicopters.
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
Wow, the main games gang wears GREEN, jsut like in GTA: SA! That makes it a Killer! It has cars and a city and you can customize your character, like in GTA!
Stop it, you sound silly.
Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
EDIT- The more games LIKE GTA, the better...
Wasn't Killzone a Halo-killer?
Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:18:00 PM
QUOTE(n00bFRAGGER @ Oct 15 2005, 04:26 AM)
I can only imagine playing GTA VI, Driver 4, and Saint's Row, all on one system...
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
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Replay values are stronger in Free roam environments, not sports games...
PLUS, these might actually be good games.
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Post by: Heet on October 14, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
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Well, after playing DRIV3R, I'll never buy number 4. It was without a doubt the worst, most bug laden game Ive ever witnessed. I sold it for a whole 15$ and played it for 30mins. My fault, should have rented.
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
PLUS, these might actually be good games.
Post by: Heet on October 14, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
QUOTE(n00bFRAGGER @ Oct 15 2005, 04:26 AM)
Wasn't Killzone a Halo-killer?
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
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Whoa, I was unaware that I hated GTA...
I already know that XboxScene members are in love with flaming other users.
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Post by: slayer61 on October 14, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
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so where is this trailer at. if it is only on your drive than go to rapidshare.de and post the link for the trailer on this forum.
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:27:00 PM
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
I already know that XboxScene members are in love with flaming other users.
Post by: slayer61 on October 14, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Oct 14 2005, 10:32 PM)
Hey, I hear an alarm. Oh, it's the GET READY TO FLAME alarm.
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:29:00 PM
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:29:00 PM
QUOTE(n00bFRAGGER @ Oct 15 2005, 04:35 AM)
Whoa, I was unaware that I hated GTA...
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:30:00 PM
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It's on Filefront.com somewhere...
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:30:00 PM
Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
QUOTE(n00bFRAGGER @ Oct 15 2005, 04:38 AM)
Back when Killzone was announced, PSM call the game a "Halo-killer"...
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:32:00 PM
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I'm quoting the whole GTA-killer deal from GamePro...
Can we get back on topic?
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:40:00 PM
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Carlo's loose facts:
Fact #1: You can't know before it comes out.
Fact #2: Anything can be said/'hyped' (sounds like a fanboyish word, but that's the term) to be a 'killer' of another game in it's genre to increase sales and/or pre-release buzz.
Fact #3: Since this is the same situation as with the Halo Killer deal, and that Gta has been out for 3-4 times the amount halo has been out, you should jsut do your math.
Fact #4: The game mimicks GTA: SA too much as it is. Things like this rarely go well, and even if it does, read below.
I think this ame will be great for what it is, I'm in no way cashing this game/franchise. I'm just saying that there is no way that this game/franchise will stay on the top when GTA starts throwing out another gta title (since it has been that way on 3-somewhat consoles so far).
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
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It's JUST A QUOTE! lame the magazine, not me.
I'll pick JockStrap over THQ anyday. Since R* are Playstation owned rights, then a GTA for the X360 will be far away. Saint's Row will probably be our GTA until then.
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Post by: Deftech on October 14, 2005, 08:51:00 PM
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LMAO
this entire thread is those 2 going at it(and I just ruined it)
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on October 14, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
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sowwy
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Post by: KAGE360 on October 15, 2005, 12:27:00 AM
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as far as sony owning the rights to GTA that was only with the last 3 games in the last generation. this generation is open game people, as far as him quoting a mag or site, i think thats fine. he was bringing up the quote for opinion and no one can have any of the facts because the game isnt out yet. so no flaming should be needed.
personally i dont care much for GTA type games, they usually look like ass (even though saints row is impressive in ways) and they get old for me quickly.
we'll have to wait till the game comes out before any verdict can be given. i do think its safe to say however that it wont garner the same amount of hype or popularity as the GTA series, but who knows.
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Post by: NarutoKun on October 15, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 15, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
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Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:32:00 PM
Can we get back on topic?
Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:40:00 PM
Fact #1: You can't know before it comes out.
Fact #2: Anything can be said/'hyped' (sounds like a fanboyish word, but that's the term) to be a 'killer' of another game in it's genre to increase sales and/or pre-release buzz.
Fact #3: Since this is the same situation as with the Halo Killer deal, and that Gta has been out for 3-4 times the amount halo has been out, you should jsut do your math.
Fact #4: The game mimicks GTA: SA too much as it is. Things like this rarely go well, and even if it does, read below.
I think this ame will be great for what it is, I'm in no way cashing this game/franchise. I'm just saying that there is no way that this game/franchise will stay on the top when GTA starts throwing out another gta title (since it has been that way on 3-somewhat consoles so far).
Post by: n00bFRAGGER on October 14, 2005, 08:47:00 PM
I'll pick JockStrap over THQ anyday. Since R* are Playstation owned rights, then a GTA for the X360 will be far away. Saint's Row will probably be our GTA until then.
Post by: Deftech on October 14, 2005, 08:51:00 PM
this entire thread is those 2 going at it(and I just ruined it)
Post by: Carlo210 on October 14, 2005, 08:52:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on October 14, 2005, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on October 15, 2005, 12:27:00 AM
personally i dont care much for GTA type games, they usually look like ass (even though saints row is impressive in ways) and they get old for me quickly.
we'll have to wait till the game comes out before any verdict can be given. i do think its safe to say however that it wont garner the same amount of hype or popularity as the GTA series, but who knows.
Post by: NarutoKun on October 15, 2005, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: Carlo210 on October 15, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
QUOTE(jizmo @ Oct 15 2005, 12:59 PM)
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Post by: 110100100 on October 15, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on October 15, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
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the whole term is meaningless anyways. every new game in the genre can be considered the "killer" of the former "king" in that genre as long as it holds up to the standards and beats them in some respects. however that title would only be held until the next "killer" came along which could very well be the first title that held that title. basically even if saint row ends up being the GTA killer i see nothing wrong with that as it should push rockstar into building an even better game and retaking the crown as the best game in the free-roam genre. every new title can be considered the killer until the next new one comes out, so in the end its all trivial.
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Post by: 110100100 on October 15, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
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Post by: 110100100 on October 15, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on October 15, 2005, 08:59:00 PM
Post by: 110100100 on October 15, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 16 2005, 05:10 AM)
the whole term is meaningless anyways. every new game in the genre can be considered the "killer" of the former "king" in that genre as long as it holds up to the standards and beats them in some respects. however that title would only be held until the next "killer" came along which could very well be the first title that held that title. basically even if saint row ends up being the GTA killer i see nothing wrong with that as it should push rockstar into building an even better game and retaking the crown as the best game in the free-roam genre. every new title can be considered the killer until the next new one comes out, so in the end its all trivial.
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Post by: portarock on October 16, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
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What exactly makes this game a total copy? Has anyone of you saying that ever read anything about this game? Before you reply think about your answer, most of the things people say that make this a total copy can be said about alot of other games. In one of the dev interviews some dev makes the point that a few years ago every FPS was a DOOM copy but now they are simply FPSs and that is what they are trying to do with this game. I know this game has alot of things similar to GTA but why does that make it a clone. COD is like MOH but i dont hear that being called a clone. What does it have to have in order to not be a clone? Its not mission based, its got online, its got a different control scheme and different gameplay mechanics (all according to devs). What more does it need? I am not a huge fan of these kind of games either I just dont see why people cant give it its "props".
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Post by: webslinginwr22 on February 27, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
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^ OT. why do all these special olympic arguements always end up being about how someone spelled something? get over it, we all make typo's. we're not journalists.
anyways, back on topic.
I think this game looks like it will be fun. GTA rip-off or not. I like the fact that there is multiplayer. You can actually customize your character, and not just change his clothes and hair. You can customize his body type, skin color, hair, face, etc. You can't do that with GTA: SA. I like the idea of the "insurance fraud" mini game to make money. Throw yourself in front of cars, but if there are too many witnesses you dont get as much money. Anyways, I dont think this game will be a "GTA Killer" but it should be fun. I'll probably rent it b4 I buy it, but if they make it right it will be in my game library. And when the new GTA comes out, I'm sure I will be one of the first in line to get that. Wait, nah, I wont be in line, I work at Best Buy. I'll have it as soon as we get them in!
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Post by: a pos ta fee s on February 27, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
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Xbox. I see slim differences between them which make buying more than one similar to buying NBA 2k6 and nba 2006 and Nba street 4.
Completely different games sir completely different... try playing them with an open mind and you too will see.
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Post by: portarock on February 27, 2006, 12:07:00 PM
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I thought this thread looked familiar.
Wow I just realized how long its been snice I posted!
Oh well back to lurking.
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Post by: jizmo on February 27, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
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It's good the thread got bumped up.
I still anticipate that Saint's Row has what it takes to make it a kick-ass free roamer. It looked gorgeous already in october, was fully playable, had nice physics, multiplayer modes etc - only a few framerate issues seemed to keep it from being published.
Adding eight monts to developing and polishing a game that was almost ready can't really hurt it - Saints Row might bring us a vivid city that feels much more realistic than those low-poly low-res cardboard houses in GTA.
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Post by: metaldevil on February 27, 2006, 12:50:00 PM
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I could give a shit how it looks. As long as it's fun, I'm there.
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Post by: MadEx on February 27, 2006, 01:06:00 PM
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Holy bumped threads batman!
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Post by: Booker T on February 28, 2006, 07:02:00 AM
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Nothing will be a GTA killer,it started everything!
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Post by: twistedsymphony on February 28, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
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Nothing will be a GTA killer,it started everything!
exactly the reason Wolf 3D is the best FPS ever made.... better then Doom, Quake, GoldenEye, Halo, etc. etc. etc.
because being first automatically means you're the best right?
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Post by: jizmo on February 28, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
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exactly the reason Wolf 3D is the best FPS ever made.... better then Doom, Quake, GoldenEye, Halo, etc. etc. etc.
because being first automatically means you're the best right?
Touché.
How come people get to make football games, sidescrolling shooters, stragedy games, card games etc without constantly being compared to first c64 versions? But make a free-roamer and you're always automatically going to be worse than GTA.
GTA is a great game, but it does have huge flaws, starting from crappy graphics to total lack of AI.
Post by: portarock on October 16, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: webslinginwr22 on February 27, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
anyways, back on topic.
I think this game looks like it will be fun. GTA rip-off or not. I like the fact that there is multiplayer. You can actually customize your character, and not just change his clothes and hair. You can customize his body type, skin color, hair, face, etc. You can't do that with GTA: SA. I like the idea of the "insurance fraud" mini game to make money. Throw yourself in front of cars, but if there are too many witnesses you dont get as much money. Anyways, I dont think this game will be a "GTA Killer" but it should be fun. I'll probably rent it b4 I buy it, but if they make it right it will be in my game library. And when the new GTA comes out, I'm sure I will be one of the first in line to get that. Wait, nah, I wont be in line, I work at Best Buy. I'll have it as soon as we get them in!
Post by: a pos ta fee s on February 27, 2006, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Oct 15 2005, 03:25 AM)
Xbox. I see slim differences between them which make buying more than one similar to buying NBA 2k6 and nba 2006 and Nba street 4.
Completely different games sir completely different... try playing them with an open mind and you too will see.
Post by: portarock on February 27, 2006, 12:07:00 PM
Wow I just realized how long its been snice I posted! Oh well back to lurking.
Post by: jizmo on February 27, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
I still anticipate that Saint's Row has what it takes to make it a kick-ass free roamer. It looked gorgeous already in october, was fully playable, had nice physics, multiplayer modes etc - only a few framerate issues seemed to keep it from being published.
Adding eight monts to developing and polishing a game that was almost ready can't really hurt it - Saints Row might bring us a vivid city that feels much more realistic than those low-poly low-res cardboard houses in GTA.
Post by: metaldevil on February 27, 2006, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: MadEx on February 27, 2006, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: Booker T on February 28, 2006, 07:02:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on February 28, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Booker T @ Feb 28 2006, 09:09 AM)
Nothing will be a GTA killer,it started everything!
exactly the reason Wolf 3D is the best FPS ever made.... better then Doom, Quake, GoldenEye, Halo, etc. etc. etc.
because being first automatically means you're the best right?
Post by: jizmo on February 28, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Feb 28 2006, 05:54 PM)
exactly the reason Wolf 3D is the best FPS ever made.... better then Doom, Quake, GoldenEye, Halo, etc. etc. etc.
because being first automatically means you're the best right?
Touché.
How come people get to make football games, sidescrolling shooters, stragedy games, card games etc without constantly being compared to first c64 versions? But make a free-roamer and you're always automatically going to be worse than GTA.
GTA is a great game, but it does have huge flaws, starting from crappy graphics to total lack of AI.