Post by: Ozy on November 04, 2005, 12:34:00 PM
QUOTE(jizmo @ Nov 4 2005, 12:43 PM)
That's my plan for tomorrow .. so what are *you* going to do this weekend then? 
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ozy on November 04, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
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Post by: Ozy on November 04, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
QUOTE(jizmo @ Nov 4 2005, 09:33 PM)
Consider it done 
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: tonloc79 on November 05, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
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Hopefully there will be huge differences in the final build of PD0 but in the A.I. department all the videos ive seen so far and im pretty sure ive seen em all show that the A.I. is horribley stupid.
Glad to hear that PGR3 is great, relly lookin forward to that and Condemned on launch! Thx for the disapointing info.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on November 05, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
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king kong has perfect framerates at walmart
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
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Perfect dark zero AI is stupid because it is on easy mode. that's why you get the arrows pointing where you should go.
Unlike games where on dificulty settings the emermy health is turned up and down, pd0 has AI settings.
If you play a game on easy how do you expect the AI to be great. Plus it is an old build.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on November 06, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
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why cant stores have PGR and PD0 DEMOS!!?!?!?!
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
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Post by: tonloc79 on November 05, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
Glad to hear that PGR3 is great, relly lookin forward to that and Condemned on launch! Thx for the disapointing info.
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on November 05, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
Unlike games where on dificulty settings the emermy health is turned up and down, pd0 has AI settings.
If you play a game on easy how do you expect the AI to be great. Plus it is an old build.
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on November 06, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 11:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Ballz2TheWallz @ Nov 6 2005, 06:25 PM)
why cant stores have PGR and PD0 DEMOS!!?!?!?!
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
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Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Nov 6 2005, 07:28 PM)
Because M$ have orginisation skills of the UK national lottery. Things go at random, some time M$ will get lucky and do things right after a few games, but most of the time the chances are slim.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
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Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Nov 6 2005, 06:32 PM)
Or Kameo, COD2, and King Kong are the only games ready for a solid-running demo.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: deakphreak on November 06, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
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Well how do we know they are unfinished. Thats pretty dumb if they send out old beta versions of the games for demos and not final products. For all we know they could be either old builds or the final versions.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 06, 2005, 01:40:00 PM
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It... Is... A... LAUNCH.
We should be so fortunate that there are even kiosks in the first place. It's hard to put together a demo. Time must be taken to code and build a disc that ONLY plays 1 level or so. So if the kiosks come out 1 month before launch (as they did with 360), and it took 1 month to build the demo disc (which I'm probably being generous on), then the demos on the kiosks are at minimum 2 months younger than their final builds! And I'm SURE developers aren't happy about drawing resources off a project that they will probably be working overtime on until the last possible second. So the demo discs are old builds, that aren't getting full publishing attention... surprise, they have bugs. This is not dumb... it's what they had to work with. I don't believe Xbox or PS2 had any kiosks out until after the holiday rush anyways.
Chill. Most optimizations take place in the last 2 months before launch.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
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Post by: deakphreak on November 06, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 06, 2005, 01:40:00 PM
We should be so fortunate that there are even kiosks in the first place. It's hard to put together a demo. Time must be taken to code and build a disc that ONLY plays 1 level or so. So if the kiosks come out 1 month before launch (as they did with 360), and it took 1 month to build the demo disc (which I'm probably being generous on), then the demos on the kiosks are at minimum 2 months younger than their final builds! And I'm SURE developers aren't happy about drawing resources off a project that they will probably be working overtime on until the last possible second. So the demo discs are old builds, that aren't getting full publishing attention... surprise, they have bugs. This is not dumb... it's what they had to work with. I don't believe Xbox or PS2 had any kiosks out until after the holiday rush anyways.
Chill. Most optimizations take place in the last 2 months before launch.
Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Nov 6 2005, 08:10 PM)
With 2.5 weeks to launch? Kinda worrying if it's true.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
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Post by: Ozy on November 06, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Nov 6 2005, 08:57 PM)
Ps. Holy shmoly, long post! I should get 12.6 post counts for that. 
Did anyone read it?
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: ikecomp on November 06, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
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Did anyone read it?Post by: ikecomp on November 06, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Nov 6 2005, 02:47 PM)
It... Is... A... LAUNCH.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: CattyKid on November 06, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
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Post by: CattyKid on November 06, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE(ikecomp @ Nov 6 2005, 05:56 PM)
Not totally correct I remember me I and my friends skipping school one day to go to the mall and sure enough when we walked by an EB Games there was a PS2 kiosk running a pretty nice build of Madden 2001 and this was early October and if I'm not mistaken the ps2 was released on the 31st of October.
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Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
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Post by: Carlo210 on November 06, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Nov 7 2005, 05:05 AM)
Yup, the whole thing. Sure you aren't a marketing exec?-
Title: Playing Pgr3, Pd0, Kameo, Fifa
Post by: esc1 on November 07, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
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Post by: esc1 on November 07, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Nov 6 2005, 03:47 PM)
It... Is... A... LAUNCH.