Post by: Deftech on September 15, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 15 2005, 09:19 PM)
Check out the link. It gives you 2X AA in 720p and 4X AA in 480p and it only runs at 30 fps. Fuck that shit.
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Post by: aepuppetmaster on September 15, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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yeah but regardless of how it will look (which is stunning btw, no complaints here at 720p 2x and 30fps) but what happened to the free 4x? and 30fps, while not bad, is kinda low for a first wave title.
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Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 15, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
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Post by: aepuppetmaster on September 15, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 15, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
QUOTE(aepuppetmaster @ Sep 15 2005, 09:57 PM)
yeah but regardless of how it will look (which is stunning btw, no complaints here at 720p 2x and 30fps) but what happened to the free 4x? and 30fps, while not bad, is kinda low for a first wave title.
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Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 15, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
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Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 15, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 15 2005, 09:26 PM)
LOL
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Post by: amb7247 on September 15, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
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I think the game looks great, and they still is lots of time left till they ship it.
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Post by: Deftech on September 15, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
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aepuppetmaster and kindred
as time passed, we learned the MSAA is not totally free, and depending on the game, it can be tricky. Youve got to make tradeoffs..overall graphical splendor...crank everything up, or lower the overall look which in turn raises the frame rate and so on. They cant please everyone and regardless of what others say, its not indicative of the system..its a freakin launch title that they just got final hardware for 14 days ago.
and yes with more time, pgr 3 could reach 60fps, but thats the price you pay for a launch game.
look at the difference between pgr and pgr 2, I could use 100 more examples.
people need to stop whining about launch titles(im at fault too of doing this myself so yes im an ass) and realize that in 8 months time, its gonna be a whole new ball game.
Go play Amped 2 @ 720p and tell me where the jaggies went. Now add actual 2x AA in and BOOM! sex for the eyes
Another one gets added to the List of all Lists
Its filling up fast! whos next!
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Post by: Shawn_ on September 15, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
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my god the game is not even out yet.
there is still at least what, a month left to make launch?
I mean honestly, most games that will be launch how much time do you give them?
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Post by: VariableElite on September 15, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
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Post by: amb7247 on September 15, 2005, 08:22:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 15, 2005, 08:24:00 PM
as time passed, we learned the MSAA is not totally free, and depending on the game, it can be tricky. Youve got to make tradeoffs..overall graphical splendor...crank everything up, or lower the overall look which in turn raises the frame rate and so on. They cant please everyone and regardless of what others say, its not indicative of the system..its a freakin launch title that they just got final hardware for 14 days ago.
and yes with more time, pgr 3 could reach 60fps, but thats the price you pay for a launch game.
look at the difference between pgr and pgr 2, I could use 100 more examples.
people need to stop whining about launch titles(im at fault too of doing this myself so yes im an ass) and realize that in 8 months time, its gonna be a whole new ball game.
Go play Amped 2 @ 720p and tell me where the jaggies went. Now add actual 2x AA in and BOOM! sex for the eyes
Another one gets added to the List of all Lists
Its filling up fast! whos next!
Post by: Shawn_ on September 15, 2005, 08:25:00 PM
there is still at least what, a month left to make launch?
I mean honestly, most games that will be launch how much time do you give them?
Post by: VariableElite on September 15, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 15 2005, 09:46 PM)
I understand what you're saying but it's quite a change of tune isn't it? A few months ago we were all bragging about FREE 4X MSAA in ALL GAMES.
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Post by: Foe-hammer on September 15, 2005, 09:30:00 PM
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Post by: Foe-hammer on September 15, 2005, 09:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 04:46 AM)
.... and that all X360's in Japan have a hard drive for $50 cheaper*
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Post by: thax on September 15, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 15, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
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Post by: thax on September 15, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 04:46 AM)
I understand what you're saying but it's quite a change of tune isn't it? A few months ago we were all bragging about FREE 4X MSAA in ALL GAMES.
It is well known there is about a 4% performance hit for 2x and about 8% for 4x. It doesn't make sense for a game with backgrounds in extreme motion to spend the extra 4% because it will mostly be blurred anyway.QUOTE
But you mean to tell me that they can't do 4X MSAA which was FREE a few months ago AND the game will only run at 30 fps?
The performance hit has been well known since June 13th, as outlined in the Beyond 3D article. http://www.beyond3d..../index.php?p=05QUOTE
But because we're all Xbox fanboys we have to just sit tight and take our medice and not only that but we have to like it too.
It would be inaccurate to call all people here fanboys.QUOTE
... explicatives deleted ...
Please tone down the language and attacks. It is not needed to win an argument.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 15, 2005, 11:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 15 2005, 10:46 PM)
I understand what you're saying but it's quite a change of tune isn't it? A few months ago we were all bragging about FREE 4X MSAA in ALL GAMES.
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Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
QUOTE(mikeandbandit @ Sep 16 2005, 03:10 AM)
all this means is that the FRAME BUFFER is not being utilized whihc has nothing to do with the GAME ENGINE. 4x MSAA and 60Fps are free on the fram buffer and will not detrack from system ram, but if the game engine isnt running that fast to begin with then there is no way the fram buffer could change that. Anyway I cantinue to tell you guys the first wave games barely use 30% of the processing power available because of the time constaints.
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Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 07:14:00 AM
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Time constraints is holding them back, not hardware constraints. With only 10 mb edram, its quite obvious that it wasnt going to be totally FREE. Some guy from From software did say that with 720p and msaa on the 360 is 10 times more powerful than the xbox while without them on its 20 times more powerful.
Anyways, it still a huge advantage since the other system would have to take a way bigger performance hit to achieve what is possible on the 360.
m_chael said it best......
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Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 08:44:00 AM
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ive been saying this shit since they anounced the price......
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Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 16, 2005, 09:01:00 AM
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Here's a quote from gamespot about MGS4.
"We don't need to tell you that Guns of the Patriots looks utterly incredible--the screenshots certainly speak for themselves--and unlike some other PS3 games shown back at E3, we can say with confidence that enough aliasing and pixellated textures were evident in this trailer to indicate that it was running smoothly in real-time. This is pretty much one of the best-looking games we've ever seen. Whether or not this footage warrants such a grandiose statement will soon be for you to decide--it's reported that Kojima Productions will post the trailer itself on the MGS4 site at the close of TGS' first day, just a few hours from now. We await further details on this game with baited breath, and will bring them to you as soon as we have them."
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
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Wedding, seriously, chill the fuck out. You're getting pretty annoying.
I'm gonna say this for the last time: graphics aren't everything. Otherwise, we'd all just be watching Toy Story and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within over and over again.
Plus, in your constant comparisons to the Dreamcast, you forget that there are so many differences between MS right now and Sega 5-10 years ago as to make your comparisons less than moot.
You're one of those "glass is half-empty" guys. Honestly, I wonder how you ever got past your first system, seeing as how there's no point in ever upgrading because something better will be along soon.
Also, you're bragging about MGS4. Sorry, but I don't feel the urge to play as a 60-year old man whose face disturbs me and can't seem to hold a rifle properly.
Finally, I flat-out refuse to buy a console from a company that thinks that I should have to get a second job to pay for it; from a company whose motto is now "style over substance"; from a company that takes every good thing it touches and turns it into crap; from a company that thinks I am an idiot for wanting to buy an Xbox 360.
Seriously, your non-stop diatribes are perhaps evidence that you should stop posting here, as you're only making people mad -- yourself included. Regardless, one game, of which there is no evidence (despite what GameSpot says) that what is shown is anything but badly-rendered CG, proves nothing about a console.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
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Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 07:14:00 AM
Anyways, it still a huge advantage since the other system would have to take a way bigger performance hit to achieve what is possible on the 360.
m_chael said it best......
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 08:44:00 AM
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Ya, what the hell's up with that; MS kisses the asses of those who spit in their face. While i understand their reason/strategy, it's still a slap in the face to those who supported and support them the most
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MS should have just gone with only the $350 premium x360 world wide
ive been saying this shit since they anounced the price......
Post by: Wedding-shirt on September 16, 2005, 09:01:00 AM
"We don't need to tell you that Guns of the Patriots looks utterly incredible--the screenshots certainly speak for themselves--and unlike some other PS3 games shown back at E3, we can say with confidence that enough aliasing and pixellated textures were evident in this trailer to indicate that it was running smoothly in real-time. This is pretty much one of the best-looking games we've ever seen. Whether or not this footage warrants such a grandiose statement will soon be for you to decide--it's reported that Kojima Productions will post the trailer itself on the MGS4 site at the close of TGS' first day, just a few hours from now. We await further details on this game with baited breath, and will bring them to you as soon as we have them."
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 09:30:00 AM
I'm gonna say this for the last time: graphics aren't everything. Otherwise, we'd all just be watching Toy Story and Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within over and over again.
Plus, in your constant comparisons to the Dreamcast, you forget that there are so many differences between MS right now and Sega 5-10 years ago as to make your comparisons less than moot.
You're one of those "glass is half-empty" guys. Honestly, I wonder how you ever got past your first system, seeing as how there's no point in ever upgrading because something better will be along soon.
Also, you're bragging about MGS4. Sorry, but I don't feel the urge to play as a 60-year old man whose face disturbs me and can't seem to hold a rifle properly.
Finally, I flat-out refuse to buy a console from a company that thinks that I should have to get a second job to pay for it; from a company whose motto is now "style over substance"; from a company that takes every good thing it touches and turns it into crap; from a company that thinks I am an idiot for wanting to buy an Xbox 360.
Seriously, your non-stop diatribes are perhaps evidence that you should stop posting here, as you're only making people mad -- yourself included. Regardless, one game, of which there is no evidence (despite what GameSpot says) that what is shown is anything but badly-rendered CG, proves nothing about a console.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 11:08 AM)
I respectfully disagree. I remember back during E3 how shitty most of the games looked and people offered excuses saying they were running on Alpha kits.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 09:39:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 09:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 11:46 AM)
The truth hurts.
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
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Post by: jaskerzada006 on September 16, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
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Was DOA3 representative of what the xbox could "handle"????????
Look, we were promised so much, but when M$ says so, you bend over willingly, and you want other to get raped with a smile on thier face just as you. So, good luck with that.
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Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:01:00 AM
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well thats a big surprise
real gems think alike.
i believe that doa3 was a good taste of what the xbox can do to answer your question. what does that have to do with anything? the architecture in the xbox was very familiar to developers but the 360 is a huge difference in architecture and NO developer has enough experience with the new architecture to show a true example of the systems power yet, so you your comparison is a mute point.
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Post by: jaskerzada006 on September 16, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
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Yea, it's easy to justify shitty looking 360 games by saying devs don't have enough time and what not, but who's fault is that? And then in the same breath we have to listen to these armchair devs on this board tell us how easy the 360 is to develop for.
But then comes along some ps3 media that's about 8 months away from launch and it looks better than 360 shit that launches in 2 months.
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 10:46 AM)
The truth hurts.
Post by: jaskerzada006 on September 16, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
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I wouldn't know, I'm not the one that can't accept that what's shown on the 360 right now is not truly representative of what the console can handle.
Was DOA3 representative of what the xbox could "handle"????????
Look, we were promised so much, but when M$ says so, you bend over willingly, and you want other to get raped with a smile on thier face just as you. So, good luck with that.
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:01:00 AM
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I have to agree with Wedding.
well thats a big surprise
real gems think alike. i believe that doa3 was a good taste of what the xbox can do to answer your question. what does that have to do with anything? the architecture in the xbox was very familiar to developers but the 360 is a huge difference in architecture and NO developer has enough experience with the new architecture to show a true example of the systems power yet, so you your comparison is a mute point.
Post by: jaskerzada006 on September 16, 2005, 10:21:00 AM
But then comes along some ps3 media that's about 8 months away from launch and it looks better than 360 shit that launches in 2 months.
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 10:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 11:17 AM)
Then why do the PS3 games look so good? Do the developers have a lot of experience with that?
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 12:17 PM)
Then why do the PS3 games look so good? Do the developers have a lot of experience with that?
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:39:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:39:00 AM
QUOTE(jaskerzada006 @ Sep 16 2005, 12:32 PM)
Yea, it's easy to justify shitty looking 360 games by saying devs don't have enough time and what not, but who's fault is that? And then in the same breath we have to listen to these armchair devs on this board tell us how easy the 360 is to develop for.
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Post by: bluvasa on September 16, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
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To compare different games made by different developers on different consoles is idiotic in my opinion.
There are thousands of other factors which contribute to a game's appearance other than the hardware itself. The overall art style, the engine, and the coders themselves, the SDKs, etc.
The only way to really gauge a console's graphical abilities against another's is to compare games made by the same developers. To compare MGS4 (which looks great) to PGR3 (which also looks great) is truly like comparing apples to oranges.
Only when you compare multiplatform titles like from EA, Ubisoft, Capcom, etc. can you really compare the graphical abilities of the 360 and PS3. I won't be satisfied until I can compare identical screens of ported games under actual gameplay conditions.
As for the "free 4XAA" comments, any information coming out of E3 about a new console should have been taken with a grain of salt. Both MS and Sony were guilty of hyping up their hardware and software. Stats were overstated and exaggerated, but that has happened with every new release.
I will also agree with the fact that launch titles are always rushed and compromises must be made. I am happy with MS and their type of games, so I am sticking with them in the "next generation."
Here is a question for everyone:
Don't motion pictures run at 24fps in the theatre? If so, does that mean that HD movies also run at 24fps? If so, isn't 30fps for PGR3 enough so we can't even tell the difference when we are actually playing it?
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Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
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Post by: bluvasa on September 16, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
There are thousands of other factors which contribute to a game's appearance other than the hardware itself. The overall art style, the engine, and the coders themselves, the SDKs, etc.
The only way to really gauge a console's graphical abilities against another's is to compare games made by the same developers. To compare MGS4 (which looks great) to PGR3 (which also looks great) is truly like comparing apples to oranges.
Only when you compare multiplatform titles like from EA, Ubisoft, Capcom, etc. can you really compare the graphical abilities of the 360 and PS3. I won't be satisfied until I can compare identical screens of ported games under actual gameplay conditions.
As for the "free 4XAA" comments, any information coming out of E3 about a new console should have been taken with a grain of salt. Both MS and Sony were guilty of hyping up their hardware and software. Stats were overstated and exaggerated, but that has happened with every new release.
I will also agree with the fact that launch titles are always rushed and compromises must be made. I am happy with MS and their type of games, so I am sticking with them in the "next generation."
Here is a question for everyone:
Don't motion pictures run at 24fps in the theatre? If so, does that mean that HD movies also run at 24fps? If so, isn't 30fps for PGR3 enough so we can't even tell the difference when we are actually playing it?
Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(bluvasa @ Sep 16 2005, 12:57 PM)
To compare different games made by different developers on different consoles is idiotic in my opinion.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 11:05:00 AM
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both companies did use hype on their consoles i think that MS was more realistic though. both consoles didnt even really exist at E3 so everything said was based on assumption and i think MS played a safer approach in that respect.
i dont think the "free 4x MSAA" was a dream since developers can make use of it by using a technique called tiled rendering (according to beyond 3d) and it has been stated that there is around a 5%-8% performance hit for the MSAA. i dont think MS would spend money on eDRAM (which people say is expensive, i wouldnt know) if they didnt think it would do the job especially when they are trying not to take as much of a hit with the 360 as they did with the xbox.
i fully agree with you on the comparison deal. thats why i was saying its stupid to compare PDZ to MGS4. the multi-platform games will show us the real difference. and i think its a safe bet the 360 wont be held back in the next gen like the ps2 was in the last (with games like splinter cell) when it comes to multiplatform games.
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Post by: crobar on September 16, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
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honestly...i dont see the big fucking deal...
it all comes down to the game being fun right?
i still play fucking mario cart on n64 & snes...still fun no "gagillion X AAA" there
all youspecs whores can do is look and pick...when it comes down to it graphics do not make a game any one who bases there game buying on graphics is a fucking tool...
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
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I take issue with those who claim that, because one of Sony's demo videos may look better than one of the 360's demo videos, the 360 is crap.
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Post by: bluvasa on September 16, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
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Here's to 30fps
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 16, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
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The simple notion that launch games aren't optimized to use all three cores and the R500 is reason enough to believe that visuals will get increasingly better. On Xbox1, most devs probably knew how to program for a PentiumIII and a GeForce3. How many devs do you know that can program for a triple core G5 variant with the efficiency they show on Xbox1? Shit, I'm surprised PGR3, GR3 and DOA4 look as good as they do.
As for these Engine demos that are being put out... It's my opinion that 360 devs just don't have the time to make "pretty picture" movies using their engines because launch is so close. They have actual games to make... and a deadline set in stone.
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Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 11:05:00 AM
i dont think the "free 4x MSAA" was a dream since developers can make use of it by using a technique called tiled rendering (according to beyond 3d) and it has been stated that there is around a 5%-8% performance hit for the MSAA. i dont think MS would spend money on eDRAM (which people say is expensive, i wouldnt know) if they didnt think it would do the job especially when they are trying not to take as much of a hit with the 360 as they did with the xbox.
i fully agree with you on the comparison deal. thats why i was saying its stupid to compare PDZ to MGS4. the multi-platform games will show us the real difference. and i think its a safe bet the 360 wont be held back in the next gen like the ps2 was in the last (with games like splinter cell) when it comes to multiplatform games.
Post by: crobar on September 16, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
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http://www.eurogamer...rticle_id=60899
Indeed, the frame rate is just about the only thing off the pace. But does it really matter?
We were there earlier. There were more cars. They wouldn't SOD OFF.
"In the next generation frame rate will become much less important," says Wilson, "because when you apply HDR and these lighting effects and run with motion blur, you can't tell the difference at 60. You don't notice that much difference because the motion blur takes a lot of it away."
Indeed, the frame rate is just about the only thing off the pace. But does it really matter?
We were there earlier. There were more cars. They wouldn't SOD OFF.
"In the next generation frame rate will become much less important," says Wilson, "because when you apply HDR and these lighting effects and run with motion blur, you can't tell the difference at 60. You don't notice that much difference because the motion blur takes a lot of it away."
honestly...i dont see the big fucking deal...
it all comes down to the game being fun right?
i still play fucking mario cart on n64 & snes...still fun no "gagillion X AAA" there
all youspecs whores can do is look and pick...when it comes down to it graphics do not make a game any one who bases there game buying on graphics is a fucking tool...
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: bluvasa on September 16, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
Here's to 30fps
Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 16, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
As for these Engine demos that are being put out... It's my opinion that 360 devs just don't have the time to make "pretty picture" movies using their engines because launch is so close. They have actual games to make... and a deadline set in stone.
Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Sep 16 2005, 03:32 PM)
The simple notion that launch games aren't optimized to use all three cores and the R500 is reason enough to believe that visuals will get increasingly better. On Xbox1, most devs probably knew how to program for a PentiumIII and a GeForce3. How many devs do you know that can program for a triple core G5 variant with the efficiency they show on Xbox1? Shit, I'm surprised PGR3, GR3 and DOA4 look as good as they do.
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
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Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 02:41 PM)
WHAT A CROCK OF FUCKING SHIT!!!!!
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
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Weddingtshirt........is........A.........REJECT
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Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
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Post by: thax on September 16, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
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Deftech is right, just ignore him.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 01:36:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 16, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
Post by: thax on September 16, 2005, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 03:33 PM)
What a load of BS. The X360 games are ALMOST FINISHED, they'll be shipping SOON.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 03:53 PM)
Would I sound really grown up and mature if I made comments like "I LOVE CLIFFY, HE'S SO CUTE! HE SAYS IT'S A MONSTER! CLIFFY! CLIFFY! CLIFFY! DON'T YOU THINK CLIFFY HAS NICE EYES? I THINK I'M IN LOVE WITH CLIFFY! "
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
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The MGS video......................watch it again in its entirety..
you know whats fuuny in the video when the robot (octogon) shows up And says snake its me .......he says he is running a cell processor and then falls on his back..
whats up with that ....
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Title: Pgr3 Only 2x Aa In 720p!
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
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For the sane people still reading this thread, can we just let it die, please?
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Title: Pgr3 Only 2x Aa In 720p!
Post by: Ozy on September 16, 2005, 03:02:00 PM
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"Post by: hugoboss1 on September 16, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
you know whats fuuny in the video when the robot (octogon) shows up And says snake its me .......he says he is running a cell processor and then falls on his back..
whats up with that ....
Post by: VariableElite on September 16, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
For the sane people still reading this thread, can we just let it die, please?
Post by: Ozy on September 16, 2005, 03:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Wedding-shirt @ Sep 16 2005, 03:46 AM)
But because we're all Xbox fanboys we have to just sit tight and take our medice and not only that but we have to like it too.
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Title: Pgr3 Only 2x Aa In 720p!
Post by: Xombe on September 16, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
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Enough.
If you can't keep it civil, keep it off Xbox-Scene.
I don't care if you're a fanboy, a jerk, or whatever: We have a firmly established Posting Policy here. Abide by it or take it elsewhere.
http://pictures.xbox...rules/Rules.htm
I'll sort out the Warnings later (expect them). For now...
Topic Closed: Went down the tubes long ago.
Post by: Xombe on September 16, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
If you can't keep it civil, keep it off Xbox-Scene.
I don't care if you're a fanboy, a jerk, or whatever: We have a firmly established Posting Policy here. Abide by it or take it elsewhere.
http://pictures.xbox...rules/Rules.htm
I'll sort out the Warnings later (expect them). For now...
Topic Closed: Went down the tubes long ago.