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Title: Project Offset
Post by: Mandalore on August 09, 2005, 06:54:00 AM

Yeah I saw the first sneak peak of it when it came out and was blown away. I had no idea this game was being developed by three people though that's just amazing. I don't expect this game to hit shelves for a long time though but if it looks anything like their concept art than were in for a treat.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: portarock on August 09, 2005, 07:06:00 AM

If you read the team info two of them are artist! The game looks great hopfully M$ or someone else will pick it up. Also if you read the info about the engine it sounds like it will be very mod friendly ( if Im understanding it right , Im not a programer ). It talks about how everything uses xmls.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Andy51 on August 09, 2005, 08:21:00 AM

My God! It even trumps and make Gears of War look bad.... and it's barely finished....

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 09, 2005, 10:43:00 AM

3rd party games either blow, or blow other games away....

if this game every makes it to selfs, it will blow all others away, count me in if it releases

Title: Project Offset
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 09, 2005, 10:46:00 AM

Don't get me wrong it looks fantastic, but it hardly "trumps" Gears of War. Gears is already up and running. With multiple characters on screen and fully detailed and destructible environments. Not to mention it's running on less than final 360 hardware.

Project Offset is probably running on a high powered PC, of course it looks good... Can I bust down that brick wall... Is that other character thinking or is it just following it's animation routine?

Besides, while an "Epic Fantasy FPS" is certainly a new take on two different genres I never really cared much for fairies, elves and wizards. Give me aliens, robots, and mutants any day.  

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Andy51 on August 09, 2005, 03:44:00 PM

What the heck?

Project Offset

It's a Xbox 360 game also?


P.S. why are you comparing the old fucker to the Gears of War guy? Try the um.. Troll instead, IN THE SNEAK PEAK #2, which can be found on Project Offset's site or on Teambox I think..here..:



Link

Watch the sneak peek 2 and look at the troll.. it's very detailed to me...

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Andy51 on August 09, 2005, 03:46:00 PM

QUOTE(portarock @ Aug 9 2005, 06:23 PM)

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on August 09, 2005, 09:32:00 PM

Like twisted, im not into the whole fantasy side of things, but if it looks half that good with many things on at once on screen, I'll buy it any day of the effing week  

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on August 10, 2005, 10:21:00 AM

QUOTE(portarock @ Aug 10 2005, 09:15 AM)

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 10, 2005, 11:01:00 AM

Doesnt this just seem like morrowind, but only FPS???

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on August 10, 2005, 11:04:00 AM

QUOTE(Hoogabooga @ Aug 10 2005, 03:12 PM)

Doesnt this just seem like morrowind, but only FPS???

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 10, 2005, 11:14:00 AM

no, no, no...i ment it looking like morrowind as in a good thing, that game is GREAT(morrowind)

Graphics werent the best in that game, but gameplay rocked my socks off

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on August 10, 2005, 11:15:00 AM

QUOTE(Hoogabooga @ Aug 10 2005, 03:25 PM)

no, no, no...i ment it looking like morrowind as in a good thing, that game is GREAT(morrowind)

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Andy51 on August 10, 2005, 11:22:00 AM

But I think I want Gears of War... if Offset is to be only for PC.... That gives me an idea... Why don't Bungie use the engine for Halo 3... of course they would have to buy it and shit...

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 10, 2005, 12:17:00 PM

i would like to see bungie use the Hl2 engine for halo 2

Title: Project Offset
Post by: incognegro on August 14, 2005, 02:10:00 PM

they gonna use their own engine..........i bet.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on August 14, 2005, 02:56:00 PM

QUOTE(corkinator @ Aug 10 2005, 07:27 PM)

Half Life 2 is a very good game and has good physics and some nice scenes but the graphics are pretty average. Seriously.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: KAGE360 on August 14, 2005, 03:59:00 PM

the vids look great and if only 3 people can accomplish this imagine what a big development team can do.  i think it would be more fair to compare the unveiling of each engine.  these demos with the first demos of the unreal 3 engine.  back when the U3E was first shown i dont think it had AI and everything in place and yet it still looked great.  if the offset team can do what epic has then good things are to come.

i honestly cant wait until something comes along within the next few years and really eclipses these engines.  yes they were built with the next gen in mind but i cant help but think that if an engine was built exclusively for the 360 it would push the bar higher then any current engine.  

Title: Project Offset
Post by: portarock on October 30, 2005, 12:54:00 AM

I was bored and saw this on tv so I thought Id update.
interview from G4: click here

Title: Project Offset
Post by: incognegro on October 30, 2005, 05:58:00 AM

Title: Project Offset
Post by: bluvasa on October 30, 2005, 06:35:00 PM

I think this just goes to show that a few talented people can definitely compete with the big boys.

The Unreal engine is awesome, but it is good to see that similar results can be achieved by a smaller team.

This puts my mind at ease a little over Halo3.  

Bungie is definitely developing their own engine and I think it will be just as good as Unreal, Source, Realtime or this Offset.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on October 30, 2005, 07:30:00 PM

come on MS! be their publisher!

Title: Project Offset
Post by: KAGE360 on October 30, 2005, 08:18:00 PM

im both interested in the game and the engine.  if they get the whole game looking like that short clip it could be very interesting indeed.  also i hope they begin liscencing this engine out and see what other devs cook up with this kind of engine.  

i wonder if bungie is developing their own engine and if so i hope they do a better job then they did with the halo 2 engine.  it was good but it wasnt the most efficient engine with all the texture pop-up and the inability to support co-op over LIVE or system link.  but all that was based off of the original halo engine built for the PC and mac so now hopefully they will fully tailor an engine to the 360 and hang with the big boys (offset, Unreal 3, and Wardevil engines)

Title: Project Offset
Post by: bluvasa on October 31, 2005, 11:36:00 AM

Time constraints had more to do with the lack of coop and texture popin in H2.  It wasn't purely engine limitations.

Check out this interview with Bungie's Mat Noguchi:

Link

He talks a little about pop in and the rush they went through to finish everything.

Back on topic:

I think any developer with talent and dedication can make an effective next gen game.

Yes development costs are rising, but I don't think the $20 million dollar quoted by EA is applicable to everyone.  

Title: Project Offset
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 01:03:00 PM

QUOTE(bluvasa @ Oct 31 2005, 02:47 PM)

Time constraints had more to do with the lack of coop and texture popin in H2.  It wasn't purely engine limitations.

Title: Project Offset
Post by: bluvasa on October 31, 2005, 01:05:00 PM

QUOTE

all im saying is that is that if they build an engine from the ground up for the 360 it could better benefit them in the long run, unlike the first halo engine which was built using the PC and Mac as its base then ported to the xbox at the last minute.

I definitely agree

Title: Project Offset
Post by: Deftech on October 31, 2005, 01:17:00 PM