Post by: rfmok on December 15, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
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Post by: drummin82 on December 15, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=469041
Post by: mobilehavoc on December 15, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
QUOTE(rfmok @ Dec 15 2005, 11:24 AM) 
Hey. I have heard a lot of negative things about this game. I read the reviews from both ign and gamespot. Usually the consumer reviews are higher than the video game websites. But in this case, it appears that the consumer reviews are lower. So, are there people out there that think this is a great game? I'm anxious to get online and play this for months. I'm hoping it's as great as its claimed to be....
rfmok
From someone who just got the Xbox360 yesterday and played PDZ quite a bit (up to level 4 or 5 already). I think it's a pretty good game depending on what you are expecting.
I have COD2 on PC and have beat it. They are two completely different games. COD2 is obviously more realistic and authentic since it's a WWII Based FPS that relies heavily on squadmates, scripted scenes, etc. It's very immersive.
PDZ is more along the lines of the standard FPS but they add variety (controlling a robot, providing sniper cover for your partner,etc) but is obviously unrealistic since it takes place in a fantasy world and time.
Personally I think PDZ's strongest point (is reflected in most reviews too) is the amazing weapon modelling. All the weapons look great, sound great and are fun to use. The graphics are decent most times and can be really good at times. It's a lot more action and most of the time, it'll be you against everyone.
I think it's unfair comparing the two (COD2 and PDZ) because they are really two different types of games. I would get COD2 for the Xbox360 but already have it beat it on PC.
Just get both.
Post by: rfmok on December 15, 2005, 09:39:00 AM
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Post by: eurodeseo on December 15, 2005, 09:32:00 AM
Post by: rfmok on December 15, 2005, 09:34:00 AM
QUOTE(eurodeseo @ Dec 15 2005, 06:39 PM)
I thought PDZ was a piece of crap.
LOL. Online too?
Post by: ikecomp on December 15, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
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Post by: deadpool66 on December 15, 2005, 09:51:00 AM
Post by: tommiwan on December 15, 2005, 09:58:00 AM
It is a decent game. I think if I had spent $50-$60 on this game I would be disappointed. the gameplay is entertaining and I plan on playing it all the way through, but it is definitely not worth that price. Maybe if it were $20-$30 I would purchase it.
The multiplayer was pretty good, I only got to play two games (split screen) but had fun with the bots. It reminded me a lot of unreal tournament on PC (only slower). I play halo, and I don't think the multiplayer was as fun as halo, but stil entertaining and I could see myself playing it for a while.
Summary: Not worth the current price, but fun and worth buying later for a much cheaper price.
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Post by: aceman118 on December 15, 2005, 10:00:00 AM
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Post by: xPRimNT on December 15, 2005, 10:15:00 AM
I went into PD0 with no expectations, just wanting to see what it could offer. In my opinion, it delivered some pretty interesting stuff!
The Co-op single player was what has drawn most of my time. Playing through the hardest difficulty was ... hard enough to keep our attention, with tons of level retries. I found it great fun!
Multiplayer is also fun. DarkOps is like a slower paced CS, but without jumping. While I found it strange that they didn't include jumping, it doesn't take long to get used to.
I prefer PD0's 32 people online to COD2's 8.
All in all, I like the game... Give it a try.
Post by: jfoster on December 15, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: crobar on December 15, 2005, 10:29:00 AM
the ai is horid.
for instance...and im sure many of you will agree.
you can be in cover exchanging fire with the enemy
and your having fun till you realize the enemy is so
stupid that not only do they not take cover well but they
will openly run up to youin the middle of the cross fire to hit
you with their loaded gun or fire at you right next to you and
while you in the"cover" mode ists not easy to get out of it to fight the idiot who doesnt value his AI life
thats basicly it for the AI none of the characters value their life much if at all you can tll by their actions.
the voice acting is soooo funnyits like a bad japanese dub or somthing.
graphics wise...its good but everything looks plactic and wet...you can call that the games style i call it lame.
this game sucks
Post by: chefelf on December 15, 2005, 10:30:00 AM
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Post by: MadPerry on December 15, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
my son likes it a LOT, so it is certainly a game of personal preference.
Post by: Marrvia on December 15, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: mitch2025 on December 15, 2005, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on December 16, 2005, 09:34:00 AM
Those who were excited about it, ended up disliking it, or should I say it was less than what they expected.
And those who didnt care about it end up liking it.
I fall into the middle. I didnt care either way and was giving Rare the benefit of the doubt, and ended up laughing at it due to the boredom it caused me.
Post by: crobar on December 16, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
unlike dry butthole only sony fan boys like that
Post by: esc1 on December 16, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Dec 16 2005, 11:41 AM)
This is an odd game.
Those who were excited about it, ended up disliking it, or should I say it was less than what they expected.
And those who didnt care about it end up liking it.
I fall into the middle. I didnt care either way and was giving Rare the benefit of the doubt, and ended up laughing at it due to the boredom it caused me.
Good point and I feel the same way.
Post by: metaldevil on December 16, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
QUOTE(crobar @ Dec 15 2005, 12:36 PM)
this game sucks
Post by: metaldevil on December 16, 2005, 06:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Schismatized @ Dec 16 2005, 06:19 PM)
i think ppl are just saying it sux is because its better than halo 2.
That's some theory you got there. 
They're actually saying it sucks because they're not having fun playing it. It has nothing to do with a Halo. I just plain don't like playing it (link) because it's not entertaining to me. I don't find it to be any fun. The multiplayer aspect of it is mildly better than the single player experience, but that's not saying much. If only gamemakers could suck all the weapons out of PDZ and put them in a better game. I agree with you, however, that the game is pretty fair on Live.But like they say, "Opinions are like assholes: everybody's got one." The initial poster should give this game a rent so he/she can decide for him/herself. No point in making such a decision without a solid frame of reference.
Post by: addyb on December 19, 2005, 09:39:00 AM
Most of my mates own Perfect dark zero and absolutely love it. Why? because its quite a tough game and has some variety. I love COD2 as i own it for pc but it gets far too much hype for its own good. You take away the flash gfx and theres little variety or challenge to any of the gameplay. I supposed its all down to what you are used to but PD0 is far better than COD2 IMO
Post by: crobar on December 19, 2005, 09:44:00 AM
QUOTE
a tough game and has some variety
...are we playing the same game?
Post by: addyb on December 19, 2005, 10:16:00 AM
QUOTE(crobar @ Dec 19 2005, 06:51 PM)
...are we playing the same game?
Obviously not!!!
But if i was to swap the title for "Halo" then ev1 would be kissing my ass
Post by: J0RD4N 007 on December 19, 2005, 10:56:00 AM
Post by: addyb on December 19, 2005, 11:08:00 AM
QUOTE(J0RD4N 007 @ Dec 19 2005, 08:03 PM)
I purchased PDZ as my launch game and after about 3 to 4 hours I just decided to play Live Arcade. The next day I bought NFSMW and CoD2 and I now finally love my 360 like I should. I wanted so hard to like PDZ, but I guess I'm halo spoiled. I need a jump button! Also, something about the size of the screen seemed odd, kinda like I was zoomed in 2 much. I don't know, its just I really wanted to like it but everytime I played it felt like a chore.
Yeh i admit that i havent been blown away by PDZ either but i do enjoy the game for the amount of time ive played it. I'll admit thats another game that hasnt lived up to the hype. It took me a while to get into Halo tho at first. I just couldnt get used to the slow pace of everything, again i think thats because ive been spoilt with PC FPS games like Doom, Halflife, SOF etc. As time went on i grew to love halo for its twisting storyline and some good levels. But as for halo online i didnt like it one bit, again that was due to my love of unreal tournament and Counter strike etc. Anyways thats always been the beauty of videogames. Some you love and hate. Some you hate and then begin to love etc etc. I wouldnt say the launch games for 360 have been outstanding, but i remember saying the same with PS2 etc. Im personally looking forward to Resident evil 5, Fight night Rd 3 and another forza motorsport, mainly because im such a fan of the originals and i cant wait to see what original material gets released............HOLD ON.. this thread has gone well off topic...sorry guys, me and my mouth
Post by: crobar on December 19, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
halo has nothing to do with the fact that people dotn like PD0, there are other shooters
out right now and guess what people love them are they halo?
are they being compared to halo?
NO
so shut your face.
perfect dark zero is not only an easy game but it lacks any fun game play.
the ai is retarted andthere is too much focus on the graphics.
it is a bad game...its the number 1 returned (for preowned sale) game at my local EB.
Post by: addyb on December 19, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
QUOTE(crobar @ Dec 19 2005, 08:41 PM)
any one who thinks perfect dark zero is getting bad remarks because its not some kind of halo killer is a moron and obviously dosent know what good game play is.
halo has nothing to do with the fact that people dotn like PD0, there are other shooters
out right now and guess what people love them are they halo?
are they being compared to halo?
NO
so shut your face.
perfect dark zero is not only an easy game but it lacks any fun game play.
the ai is retarted andthere is too much focus on the graphics.
it is a bad game...its the number 1 returned (for preowned sale) game at my local EB.
WOW shut my face! I wont even rise to the bait my friend and resort to a slanging match!!
I even stated on my last post my feelings on various games etc. I like PD0 but did i tell you to shut your face? I like Halo!!! WOW shock horror, i just stated that it was overhyped much like PD0 was. I like both games and yes its always the case of "this games better than that because..."
End of the day its just our own opinions and ultimately if we enjoy the game and others dont, well so what!!
Post by: crobar on December 19, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
it was a general post to the many who are stating the halo vs PD0.
oh and...shut your face.
Post by: addyb on December 19, 2005, 12:40:00 PM
QUOTE(crobar @ Dec 19 2005, 08:57 PM)
took that a bit personal there buddy,
it was a general post to the many who are stating the halo vs PD0.
oh and...shut your face.
Nah dont worry about it, i get told to shut my face daily by my GF so its no biggie!I apologise as it wasnt my intention to start a PD0 vs Halo argument. For what its worth i think i think halo overall is a better game, guess ive been waiting so long for this damn console i get caught up in the hype!
So dont go there girlfriend!! why you trippin.. Er Huh ya'll aint no thing!
Post by: steve008 on December 19, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
As people have said i cannot get over the controls and now im playing the game just to try and get my moneys worth, not for fun.So the rule stands i think, if you expected you got disapointed.
Hopefully whatever Rare do next in the fps area will be alot better. Perhaps Free Radical will beat them to it.
Post by: crobar on December 19, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
you were dissapointed.
my self i expected somthing fun.
Post by: t_mac_ca on December 19, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on December 19, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
Generic?
does that make sense?
Maps/environments were generic. I didnt like the game mechanics at all. I thought Id like it online but that left a lot to be desired too.
Put it this way, if I had to pick between this and Halo 2, I might actually pick Halo 2, and people who know me understand what Im trying to get across
Post by: Master X on December 19, 2005, 09:19:00 PM
Post by: metaldevil on December 19, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Dec 19 2005, 07:42 PM)
I think it all felt very...how do I say this...
Generic?
does that make sense?
Maps/environments were generic. I didnt like the game mechanics at all. I thought Id like it online but that left a lot to be desired too.
Put it this way, if I had to pick between this and Halo 2, I might actually pick Halo 2, and people who know me understand what Im trying to get across
Post by: jizmo on December 20, 2005, 02:28:00 AM
There's just something absolutely great about it. As sad as it is.
At the moment neither of the FPS games for x360 can't do anything remotely like that to me, and that's why they both feel somewhat tame. I can play them, yes, but I can also easily be without playing them.
Here's hoping for that GOW would be able to ruin my life for a few weeks.
Post by: addyb on December 20, 2005, 04:17:00 AM
Does anyone know if they plan to release a wireless keyboard and mouse for the 360. I dont mine using the pad but nothing beats the pc combo for FPS games!
Post by: miggidy on December 24, 2005, 02:14:00 AM
I finally got to play PDZ myself and I agree with Gamespot's rating so far.
I just don't understand what people were expecting out of this one.
Once you get used to it's aiming system, the game turns out to be a great game.
It really started growing on me after the second sitting.
The first couple of levels might turn many off, but it really picks up after that.
So far I'm impressed with it's "next gen" graphics (yeah I was a bit worried after reading some of the complaints), the game really looks great.
My current rating for the game based on what I've played is about 9 out of 10.
Here's hoping it stays that way
Post by: skierdb526 on December 24, 2005, 02:32:00 AM
What Im trying to say is with upgraded graphics, the original perfect dark would kick some serious ass.
Post by: Kernal69er on December 24, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
But PDZ is good and is way better than COD2 for online
I own both games
Post by: Liquidvlade Hiraduo on December 25, 2005, 07:48:00 AM
The game which is a PREQUEL to the original "Perfect Dark" for the Nintendo 64 wasn't bad as people are saying out there. There are the pros and the cons to the game, some cons can get on your nerves sometimes but if you can handle them you should be fine.
Single Player
- The game has a great single player but not a good story behind it. There is plenty of action specially when you get to the godamn jungle level which is infested with soldiers. Also the AI isn't terrible, the only thing that sucks is that most of the time when you aim at them they know where you are and they will shoot you back. Another funny thing is that it doesn't matter where you hide, if they spotted you they are going after you. If you are playing the game in Perfect or Dark Agent you cannot just run n' gun because you will get shot down in the first minute. You can interact with a lot of things in the game, like blowing up walls to prevent from people following you. Locking doors so your enemies can't follow you. If you really want a challenge play Perfect Agent I will guarantee you that it will not be easy. Like I mentioned earlier the only thing that sucks about single player is the story line which is not very good.
CO-OP
- Join up with a second player, either Locally (attach another controller), via System Link or via Xbox Live. Just like single player but a lot of fun. Missions require helping each other you can't run on solo and be the hero.
Multiplayer
DarkOps
- Sabotage: Go to the enemies base and destroy their equipment to win
- Infection: Infected players (skeleton body) must kill human players and they become infected, sometimes it turns sometimes into 31 vs. 1 which is a lot of fun because you have to hide without being seen.
- Eradication: Kill other players with tactics
- Onslaugh: Kill other players while they guard their base.
Deathmatch
- Killcount (Slayer)
- Team Killcount (Team Slayer)
Overall
It offers a lot of things in multiplayer, great hiding spots, good multiplayer modes. Biggest complaint is that the sniper is not very good. Reloding looks cool but some weapons are SLOW as hell....
Graphics
Characters look ugly when you get close to them but everything else looks awesome.
Controls
If you are a Halo Junkie they are kind of familiar but takes a while to get used to and its kind of hard to aim.
Overall 8/10
Pros
Awesome gameplay, plenty of action and it will keep you busy for a good couple of days. I recommend this game.
Cons
Biggest complaint is the slow as hell reloads, you get killed while you reload, another complaint is how the characters looks. Poor story line and missions can get frustrating at times. Final Complaint no jumping...
Post by: crobar on December 25, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: lostboyz on December 25, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on December 26, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
Do you have 5.1? if not, get it just for CoD 2. Its all about the sound.
Post by: themadman123 on December 26, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
Yeah, you need to definetally play on Hardend at least. Its way better and a little more of a challenge....thats why its not as good.
Post by: Kernal69er on December 28, 2005, 07:11:00 AM
Recently I was bored so i decided to rent it (since there are so mnay awesome reviews for it) I played the first 2-3 stupid levels until i got to the rooftop level. Then the game started to become interesting, now I am at the cam spy mission in the jungle and this game ROCKS , I still like COD2 better, but not by much. And now I understand the game more, online is the best game ever on a console to date
So for all of you who hate it, force yourself to play the first 3 missions, terrible ... then the game truley is addictive and best graphics
Post by: twistedsymphony on December 28, 2005, 07:41:00 AM
when I first played PDZ it felt kind of slow and boring, the menus didn't flow well and a lot of times it was difficult to get Jo to do what you wanted her to do. I had really only bought the game as something my friends and I could play when they were over.
I pretty much set it aside and started playing the other launch titles I got, Condemned and PGR3. I recently had a friend over and we played a few games and then he wanted to see PDZ so we fired it up and started Co-Op, after about an hour it's my new favorite FPS. Once you get into the groove of the game it's very addictive and very fun to play.
It's NOT Halo, it's NOT Doom, and it's not HalfLife or CounterStrike
I think too many FPS junkies are just expecting to pick it up and have the same old game with better graphics and a good story... well it's not, approach it as if it's not even an FPS and just learn to play it before you pass judgment.
Post by: MC2829 on December 28, 2005, 02:23:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on December 30, 2005, 02:03:00 PM
QUOTE(crobar @ Dec 30 2005, 03:17 PM)
Post by: jedimaniac on December 31, 2005, 10:26:00 AM
The only reason i got it was because I had completed COD2 and its online experience was terrable. Every game lagged. Swapped it for PDZ. Brought COD2 on PC instead with 64 players online.
In fact i dont think i will get anything now till Ghost Recon. I hope that game is just as good as the hype surrounding it! <sometimes too much hype isnt a good thing
)
Post by: moo_im_a_bird on December 31, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
Post by: mike_jacko on December 31, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
i think it kinda sucks
Post by: grim_d on February 05, 2006, 09:30:00 AM
QUOTE(lampo @ Feb 5 2006, 03:57 PM)
(not halo 2, that game was shite, curse you bungie for shattering my dreams of halo2)
still what did we expect, its RARE
i loved perfect dark, thought it was great, although your halo 2 comment was spot on..it sucked, nowhere near as gd as halo
as for "still what did we expect, its RARE" ahem...GOLDENEYE, but i will admit, ever since MS took them over they aint bn as gd
PWNT...dnt argue...you know it
Post by: Ozy on February 05, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ Feb 5 2006, 04:37 PM)
i loved perfect dark, thought it was great, although your halo 2 comment was spot on..it sucked, nowhere near as gd as halo
as for "still what did we expect, its RARE" ahem...GOLDENEYE, but i will admit, ever since MS took them over they aint bn as gd
Perfect Dark was godly. Halo was up there too.
Perfect Dark Zero, nowhere as good as perfect dark and halo 2 nowhere as good as halo.
Perfect Dark Zero not as good a halo 2.
That's my opinion anyway.