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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: issues_i3oy on May 30, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
These look better than any of the screenshots for PD0 i've seen so far, apparently they are from the build of the game they used for the mtv show...

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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: MadPerry on May 30, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
funny, these look better than what i remember.  my impression of what they showed on the mtv show was disappointment.  i've wanted this game in the worst way, but there is so little to judge so far.  hopefully the official xbox magazine will do a cover story in the coming months.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on May 30, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
Crap! No crossheir.

I'm done for. If it has aiming like the shitty TS2 system than I'm done for.



Edit - wait? Is that blue dot a crossheir? I glimer of hope  smile.gif ?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: halofreak007 on May 30, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
this game looks pretty cool im prolly going to get it
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 30, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE(skid_68 @ May 30 2005, 08:01 PM)
Those do look good, and a lot better than ones Ive seen so far. But I dont see that engine being on the same level as the UE3. We need more SS, and movies to really compare.  ph34r.gif
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Infinite_Matrix on May 30, 2005, 07:15:00 PM
weellllllll, i'm not positive about this game graphics. It looks like an updated Halo 2 or something (graphics wise) Yea I know this may possibly be a beta for the true game but I'm expecting more for a $400 system
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: redwolf on May 30, 2005, 07:26:00 PM
why is everyone complaining about the GFX? i know it ain't looking great as other next gen titles we saw... but i'm sure this game will have better gameplay then them high GFX games wink.gif

Goldeneye & PD in the N64 wasn't a good looker, but the gameplay was great, even to date Goldeneye is THE best FPS ever made.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 30, 2005, 08:00:00 PM
QUOTE(redwolf @ May 30 2005, 11:37 PM)
why is everyone complaining about the GFX? i know it ain't looking great as other next gen titles we saw... but i'm sure this game will have better gameplay then them high GFX games wink.gif
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Andy51 on May 30, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
I'm not too keen about the graphics....

Wait a min... a third person view? Is this really Perfect Dark Zero? And besides do you even know when these pics were made? They could have been from 2002 for all i know....
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 30, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy51 @ May 31 2005, 12:42 AM)
I'm not too keen about the graphics....
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: skid_68 on May 30, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
May be old, but here ya go.

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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 30, 2005, 09:31:00 PM
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joanna and I have a date, I have till November to get ready  jester.gif
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: prankfurter on May 30, 2005, 09:34:00 PM
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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: themadman123 on May 30, 2005, 10:22:00 PM
Dude, if they made Perfect Dark 0 with the same graphics that they did with the first one, but was amazing in gameplay, I wouldn't even care. (Well not that much anways)

Screw the graphics, give me decent gameplay anyday.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Snake_Eye on May 31, 2005, 12:49:00 AM
QUOTE(inno887 @ May 31 2005, 12:50 AM)
On the third pic it looks to be 3rd view and has a guy what looks like a black backup and black helmet. Is it just me or are these graphics amazing?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: ghost_psalm777 on May 31, 2005, 01:19:00 AM
In an interview they said the PD0 will have a new type of camera system. If you get to close to a wall it auto turns to 3rd person view so you can see around the corner. They didn't really go into detail of course.

Not sure how good that would be but that's what was said in a video interview with a designer on ign at E3.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on May 31, 2005, 05:52:00 AM
PD was the best gameplay in a FPS ever that's why it got 9.9/10 on Gamespot and 9.8/10 on IGN.

Remeber these graphics come from alpha dev kits with 1/3 power of the final product and no edram.

When it comes out you will NOT be dissapointed!
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 31, 2005, 10:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ May 31 2005, 10:03 AM)
PD was the best gameplay in a FPS ever that's why it got 9.9/10 on Gamespot and 9.8/10 on IGN.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on May 31, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ May 31 2005, 05:45 PM)
wow, Ozys all gung ho for 360 now.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 31, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
good to see youve got a good idea of whats going on except for...

...."MS winning the next gen"....

If you mean Units sold, I disagree. While I despise Sony, I see them being king of units sold for many years. it will take another gen or 2 for MS and the xbox name to be firmly entrenched in gamers minds.

Now if you take away GTA's as sony exclusives at the onset, you'd get a couple million more 360's sold. They can keep Turismos and Metal Gears. Metal Gears are dying out. How many copies sold out fo the 80 million ps2's out there? Yeah exactly.

if MS got GTA at the same time Sony did, that would be the only thing I see helping MS. But it won't happen, regardless of what rumors we hear.

Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on May 31, 2005, 11:44:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ May 31 2005, 06:49 PM)
good to see youve got a good idea of whats going on except for...
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on May 31, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
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games wont be 4th gen when ps3 gets released, theyll be going on 2nd gen(in the US).

A generation is usually 9 to 12 months for games, but as stated many months ago, a generation of games is much shorter than it used to be.  devs will be tapping into the power much faster from the interview I remember. I wont even try looking for it, this was late fall I read that, around Halo 2 time.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 03:46:00 PM
I don't like the crosshair.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on May 31, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
For those who are worried about the graphics of PD0, don't.
Remember that PD0 was a Xbox game before 360. The build at MTV which are the pics you have seen are closer to the xbox than the xbox 360.

People who went to the Rare showing of PD0 at E3 said it looked as good as gears of war.
If this is true than you have nothing to be worried about as it looks as good as gears of war and is running on third power.

Also don't forget that rare games look shit in production but great when the come out so wait until a newer build is, er, built. Ok?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Andy51 on May 31, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
Yes, I remember that Perfect Dark Zero was going to be released as an Xbox game, then delayed, had a break then started working on the game with xbox 360 devkits?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 07:12:00 PM
PD0 looks great.

Still not sure if I should pick up PS0 or oblivion...

I'm gonna end up picking one or the other up at one point or another but I hate getting more than one game at once if I look to spend alot of time with one.

If I get oblivion, and it has no 'onlive' gameplay features, then I will hold my xbox live subscription until I pick up PD0.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: towelie1098 on June 01, 2005, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Infinite_Matrix @ May 30 2005, 08:26 PM)
weellllllll, i'm not positive about this game graphics. It looks like an updated Halo 2 or something (graphics wise) Yea I know this may possibly be a beta for the true game but I'm expecting more for a $400 system
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: 110100100 on June 01, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 01, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
Yeah I've read it. The thing I don't like is how levels block off certain parts if there are less players. Why not just make different sized maps? Some which are funner with 50 people and some that are funner with 10.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 01, 2005, 07:23:00 PM
I'm also interested in 'prey'. Man, have you seen the 11 minute Gameplay footage? Holy sh!t!  It looks grimmy and dark and all, but looks deep and fun.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: FattyX on June 01, 2005, 11:23:00 PM
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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 02, 2005, 05:01:00 AM
Why you always gotta call people fanboys? Just because someone likes nintendo doesn't make them a fanboy necessarily.

Anyways, I'm going to get oblivion first and then once alot of people I know get this game, I'll pick it up too. That is what I'm thinking right now.

What would any of you choose? Perfect Dark Zero or Elder Scrolls Oblivion?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on June 02, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 2 2005, 09:12 AM)
What would any of you choose? Perfect Dark Zero or Elder Scrolls Oblivion?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 02, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
Yeah I've been thinking and I'm probably going to pick up oblivion. Now if I could only find some info on what it uses over live. Obviously no multiplayer, but other things could be connected.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on June 02, 2005, 01:31:00 PM
QUOTE(FattyX @ Jun 2 2005, 06:34 AM)
those graphics are awesome, and i heard that its gonna be like counter strike (one of the best FPS ever).

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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 02, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Jun 2 2005, 03:42 PM)
No.........
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: corkinator on June 02, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
I agree, Goldeneye and PD were amazing but couldn't touch UT.

And on UC2 on Xbox, I think it is average. I hate the hand to hand combat and most of the weapons suck. Also, the controls are bad. Just isn't as smooth as the Halo controls.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: issues_i3oy on June 03, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
new screens:

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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Staple on June 03, 2005, 09:00:00 PM
game looks good to me i cant wait to play it..........i always hated UT the gameplay and multiplayer are just to fast paced....
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Deftech on June 03, 2005, 09:05:00 PM
QUOTE(issues_i3oy @ Jun 4 2005, 12:57 AM)
new screens:
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: ChiefMullaMulla on June 04, 2005, 03:40:00 AM
personally I dont think it will touch the multiplayer goodness of goldeneye, but It will still be a great way to spend $90.00 (au)
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 04, 2005, 02:59:00 PM
Whered you get those pics?
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: ravage73 on June 04, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
and thats not even on the new dev kits!!
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 04, 2005, 07:22:00 PM
and its Rarewares development too! Remember, they finish visuals last.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 05, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
Aside from Perfect Dark and Oblivion, The Outfit looks very fun.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 05, 2005, 08:24:00 AM
I ound an interesting link. Not much brand new stuff, but pretty cool nonetheless.
http://www.rarenet.c...and_Screenshots
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: holla45 on June 05, 2005, 09:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 5 2005, 11:35 AM)
I ound an interesting link. Not much brand new stuff, but pretty cool nonetheless.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Andy51 on June 05, 2005, 10:55:00 AM
Won't let me post them on the site, oh well big deal.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on June 06, 2005, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jun 2 2005, 08:52 PM)
Ozy, opinion man. wink.gif I didnt like perfect dark at all. I did love Goldeneye though, but nothing like the PC FPS I was playing at the time. You guys really need to understand that console shooters and PC shooters are different. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark set the standard for console shooters, not PC shooters. Half-Life 1 was leaps and bounds better than both of those games, and I'm not even talking about any of the mods for it.. As I recall you couldnt even jump in either Goldeneye or PD. That was utter crap. Hell, I could jump in duke nukem 3d and look at it. Unreal and a short while later Unreal Tournament also blew PD out of the water. For the console world they were great shooters. For those of us that were blastin people on our PC's, those games were sub-par.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 06, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Jun 6 2005, 10:02 AM)
Yes you couldn't jump in PD or golden eye but you didn't need to. You don't get stuck on builds or anything you just walk off, jumping is not a requirement, just take a lift or climb stairs or ladders.

And that made the games far from realistic. When you walk to the edge of a ledge and continue to walk................you should fall, not hit a damn invisible wall. You didnt need to because the levels were very empty and had a very linear path. I'm sorry, but when you walk up to a 3 inch high pile of rocks and you have to find another way to get around them, I want to chuck a game like that out the window.
QUOTE(Ozy)
Half life one was on PC (better hardware) and came out later so you would expect it to be better in some ways but we're (well I was) talking about console games.

Half-Life PC came out in 1998, Perfect Dark was released in 2000.  wink.gif
QUOTE(Ozy)
Unreal tornament was a whole console generation ahead (don't know about PC version) and used a new engine and ofcourse it lasted longer with all those mods but how could you put new maps and mods onto a N64 game.
What story mode did the Unreal games have that was good? Perfect dark had real objectives and an captivating storyline, it wasn't all multiplayer like unreal tornament.

Unreal PC was released in 1998. Unreal Tournament PC which was the same engine just tweaked, was released in 1999. Unreal did have a story, go play it. Unreal Tournament did not as it was just a fast paced multiplayer/bot shooter that used the Unreal engine.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on June 06, 2005, 09:04:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jun 6 2005, 03:48 PM)
And that made the games far from realistic. When you walk to the edge of a ledge and continue to walk................you should fall, not hit a damn invisible wall. You didnt need to because the levels were very empty and had a very linear path. I'm sorry, but when you walk up to a 3 inch high pile of rocks and you have to find another way to get around them, I want to chuck a game like that out the window.

Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 06, 2005, 09:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Jun 6 2005, 11:15 AM)
You do fall, no invisible walls.

I recall plenty of cliffs that you could not fall off of, unless you were supposed to. dry.gif
QUOTE(Ozy)
What was the story then?

Fuck if I remember. You start in a prison and there was so form of alien breakout or something. I don't pay much attention to the story in shooters. I couldnt even tell you what Half-life 1 and 2 are about and they are my all time favorite shooters. laugh.gif Hell I dont even remember the story in Perfect Dark. I only know the story in Goldeneye because I am a bond freak (i own all the movies on both VHS and DVD). Someone told me a few days ago that the story in MechAssult 2 was pretty good and I said, what story?  blink.gif
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on June 06, 2005, 09:23:00 AM
tongue.gif  Should stop the people who haven't encountered you before from getting upset.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 06, 2005, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Jun 6 2005, 11:34 AM)
Edit - I see you have increased the size of your warning sig.  tongue.gif  Should stop the people who haven't encountered you before from getting upset.

 laugh.gif Yup  beerchug.gif
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: yaazz on June 06, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 2 2005, 03:32 AM)
Yeah I've read it. The thing I don't like is how levels block off certain parts if there are less players. Why not just make different sized maps? Some which are funner with 50 people and some that are funner with 10.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 06, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
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Post by: tr1pp1n on June 09, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Ozy @ Jun 2 2005, 09:42 PM)
No.........
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Ozy on June 09, 2005, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE(tr1pp1n @ Jun 9 2005, 08:03 PM)
ozy pd was not one of the best fps ever, although it was made by rare, and was very innovative it was way to fucking buggy, yes goldeneye was great and also suffered many bugs... but in replay factor the best fps ever imo would be cs, although ut2k4 and cs:s do match up nicely...
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: 110100100 on June 09, 2005, 01:24:00 PM
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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: ChiefMullaMulla on June 16, 2005, 08:21:00 PM
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Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: chuxterofdoom on June 17, 2005, 02:54:00 AM
QUOTE(ChiefMullaMulla @ Jun 16 2005, 11:32 PM)
I think they need to learn a few things from both goldeneye and perfect dark
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: Carlo210 on June 17, 2005, 05:19:00 AM
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Post by: Twasi on June 17, 2005, 05:37:00 AM
QUOTE(chuxterofdoom @ Jun 17 2005, 11:05 AM)
The golden gun in goldeneye was the shit! Shooting your opponents thru the doors was awesome! I can't recall a single multiplayer fps that has bullets that will go thru a wall or doorway in todays systems.  If there is please let me know.
Title: A Couple Perfect Dark Screenshots
Post by: incognegro on June 17, 2005, 07:22:00 AM
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4get unreal, quake 4 is coming! biggrin.gif

PD was deeper game than any unreal dry.gif

Half life was ok, I never got into it though, seemed boring to me
hopefully half life 2 will change my mind

Goldeneye was the best Console fps, but consoles couldnt compete with pcs technologically at that time so you cant compare them.

CS is great, I love the depth of it.

Anyways PD0 is gonna be gr8