Post by: Xbox-Scene on January 23, 2008, 06:16:00 PM
EA Responds to Fox Nonsense about Mass Effect Posted by XanTium | January 23 19:40 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: JBmtk on January 23, 2008, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: eduardor2k on January 23, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
SUE THEM!!
Post by: SkiFreak on January 23, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
In any case, if you guys want a chuckle, check out the "report/interview" here:
http://kotaku.com/347350/keighley-sets-mas...ght-or-tries-to
"Who can argue that Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas is a good thing?" says the anchor in geeky looking glasses. I for one, say it is.
I really think people (especially parents) need to face the music and realize that parenting their kids is THEIR job and not the government/entertainment industry/anyone else's. Some of the things they say is absolutely moronic, and the idea that a "video game" or even a porn movie/magazine is going to be DAMAGING to kids is flat out ridiculous. The US is especially "square" when it comes to sexuality, and displays of ignorance like this only go on to further prove it.
If you're a parent, you should talk candidly with your kids about sex. You should explain that it's a normal part of human interaction, is the way they came into the world, and get into details about both the positive and negative aspects of it. Ignoring it/hiding it/trying to make your kids think its "bad" or "abnormal" is absolutely stupid and a great way to ensure they live their lives not making good, informed decisions.
It's along the lines of telling a young boy/girl that masturbating will make them go blind. Absolutely moronic, counterproductive, and potentially dangerous.
This post has been edited by SkiFreak: Jan 24 2008, 03:13 AM
Post by: slowass on January 23, 2008, 06:47:00 PM
And which side does it favor? Might see a sellout of every single Mass Effect game in the country!
Post by: SueMiBlitch on January 23, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: disrockerdude on January 23, 2008, 08:48:00 PM
"game is being marketed to children..." are you serious? its rated M for Mature audiences, not for Masturbating sex crazed 12 year olds. lol
Post by: majik655 on January 23, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
DON'T GET ME WRONG the national news & TV ARE WRONG however..
What does EA actually lose?
example:
TV reports EA advertising to children..
Who sees these reports? PARENTS (adults) and of course CHILDREN.
So if the parents get mad at what they THINK EA is doing.. what are they going to do? Not buy the game for their CHILDREN?
I mean parents probably shouldn't buy that game for anyone under 17 as stated by rating of Mature!
Like I said I understand what EA is saying and I agree with EA... however are they losing sales over it? and if they are to who? 17 and under right? or is EA banking on parents to purchase the game for their children under 17?
I hope this makes sense I guess I am just thinking out loud.
Post by: g8crapachino on January 23, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
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Post by: Base8 on January 23, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
Watching what video games your kids play might not be easy for some people but i think it is easier on any console than making sure they don't watch tv that you don't agree with, and especially easier than monitoring what they do on the internet. On the 360 it is even easier, the parental controls make it so you can set limits for what games they can play and how long.
I just started mass effect recently, it is awesome, the voice acting might be the best that I've ever heard, the dialog system is excellent, and the story so far seems pretty cool.
I hope they give a retraction or at least cover the story again with accurate information. Maybe they can let the person that as actually played the game talk this time. I'd be pissed if i was one of the developers that made mass effect, although as someone said before it will probably boost sales.
Post by: brandogg on January 23, 2008, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: readmore on January 23, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Jan 24 2008, 06:02 AM) 
You've got to remember that only morons watch Fox News to begin with, so they're just preaching to the choir with this lame ass "report".
yup
Post by: AddNtoX on January 23, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
Post by: pepe2004 on January 23, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Post by: majik655 on January 23, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
QUOTE(g8crapachino @ Jan 23 2008, 08:18 PM) 
majik655, where have you been for the last couple years?? If you think about the fiasco that Rockstar games had with their Grand Theft Auto and Manhunt games (which actually had illicit content) you can image what kind of mess misleading news reports can cause for EA. Things like this can in fact mean lost sales and revenue, even lawsuits. EA is doing the smart thing by addressing it before it does become a larger problem.
Lost sales from who?
from people that have younger children (in EA's own words by rating this should not be a sale anyway)
So then it is lost sales from people who would not have purchased the game anyway because if they believed the media then they would also not have purchased the game simply because of the M rating (it would be against their moral values, yes even bad language, guns, sex, crime etc etc)
So where are these lost sales? Is it more that they lose more money fighting frivolous lawsuits.. this I can see however this happens to these large companies all the time and you never hear about them again.
I am not meaning to argue I really do agree with everyone here.. I again am just thinking (probably my downfall )
Post by: PerfectGun on February 02, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
Maybe it's just me but I get a knot in my stomach when I hear EA and Mass Effect in the same sentence. I really hope EA does right by BioWare because their track record is horrendous when it comes to them acquiring developers and franchises. They seem to run just about all of them into the ground. Just look at the new Burnout game. Take everything that is great about Burnout and throw it out and leave all the mass consumable crap. I might as well be playing Need for Speed (another franchise that was run into the ground) or Test Drive Unlimited. And this is Criterion who appearently have the same type of interaction with EA as the BioWare group will. I know I'm off topic but EA's Mass Effect.. ugh!
Post by: brandon_r87 on January 23, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
QUOTE(JBmtk @ Jan 23 2008, 09:01 PM)
well what the hell do you expect, its THE MEDIA! Where an orange = potential weapon of mass destruction
Are you forgetting agent orange?
Alright, my real reason for posting. I think EA made a good point by comparing it to television. Kids watch stuff they shouldn't and stuff their parents don't want them to. It happens all the time, and even in the same way that parents don't know how to do the a parental ratings lock on a game console, they don't know how to block programming on a TV. They can't waste the time how to learn how to use the V-chip.
Post by: g8crapachino on January 23, 2008, 11:49:00 PM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Jan 24 2008, 06:04 AM)
Lost sales from who?
from people that have younger children (in EA's own words by rating this should not be a sale anyway)
So then it is lost sales from people who would not have purchased the game anyway because if they believed the media then they would also not have purchased the game simply because of the M rating (it would be against their moral values, yes even bad language, guns, sex, crime etc etc)
So where are these lost sales? Is it more that they lose more money fighting frivolous lawsuits.. this I can see however this happens to these large companies all the time and you never hear about them again.
I am not meaning to argue I really do agree with everyone here.. I again am just thinking (probably my downfall )
What do you not understand? This is about stopping negative publicity before things get out of hand and affects sales, not that it's already affecting sale. Simple things like negative publicity can and does in fact sway alot people from buying products. EA is simply trying to head off any problems before people are mislead.
People are hypocrits, they'll buy a M rated game with alot of violence then complain if there's nudity in it. The problems Rockstar games had with Grand Theft Auto-San Andreas is a shining example of that hypocracy.. That game was actually taken off the shelves of alot of stores for awhile, which therefore means people could not buy it, therefore affecting sales. Rockstar in turn lost millions, and that doesn't even count the lawsuits. (Do a internet search on "rockstar games financial Hot Coffee" if you don't believe)
Post by: TheIrishLad on February 03, 2020, 02:40:00 AM
Fox and their "experts" should suck a dick and focus on something that really matters, AKA -> Our tumbling economy.
Post by: Ddude723 on February 03, 2020, 02:44:00 AM
Post by: bucko on February 03, 2020, 03:39:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 24, 2008, 06:52:00 AM
QUOTE(slowass @ Jan 23 2008, 09:23 PM)
So who paid Fox for this? Is it some religious fanatics or is it Sony?
And which side does it favor? Might see a sellout of every single Mass Effect game in the country!
Fox = religious fanatics
no one paid for it, it's just part of Fox's normal agenda.
Fox News is the media corp for religious fundamentalists.
To get a clearer view of the clientele they provide "News" for read this:
http://209.85.165.10...%...x?archive=1
Post by: axess68 on February 03, 2020, 09:07:00 AM
Faux News
and
Fox Noise
That pretty much says it all.
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 24, 2008, 09:45:00 AM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Jan 24 2008, 07:04 AM)
Lost sales from who?
from people that have younger children (in EA's own words by rating this should not be a sale anyway)
So then it is lost sales from people who would not have purchased the game anyway because if they believed the media then they would also not have purchased the game simply because of the M rating (it would be against their moral values, yes even bad language, guns, sex, crime etc etc)
So where are these lost sales? Is it more that they lose more money fighting frivolous lawsuits.. this I can see however this happens to these large companies all the time and you never hear about them again.
I am not meaning to argue I really do agree with everyone here.. I again am just thinking (probably my downfall )
EA makes more games than just Mass Effect. Their sports games are what started their company. If their 'brand' becomes labled as 'porn-ridden', then when parents are buying the next sports game for their child, they may avoid EA (but not because 2K is better).
Post by: jdsony on February 03, 2020, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE(majik655 @ Jan 24 2008, 07:04 AM)
Lost sales from who?
from people that have younger children (in EA's own words by rating this should not be a sale anyway)
So then it is lost sales from people who would not have purchased the game anyway because if they believed the media then they would also not have purchased the game simply because of the M rating (it would be against their moral values, yes even bad language, guns, sex, crime etc etc)
So where are these lost sales? Is it more that they lose more money fighting frivolous lawsuits.. this I can see however this happens to these large companies all the time and you never hear about them again.
I am not meaning to argue I really do agree with everyone here.. I again am just thinking (probably my downfall ) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
You're the one that brought up lost sales. It's possible that sales wouldn't be impacted at all but that still doesn't give FOX the right to slander their game. There are very few companies with a decent sized wallet that would let something like this go.
I cannot believe how closed minded people still are in 2008. Sex and nudity in this context is not the child killer they say it is. The so called expert on there is so completely disrespectful and arrogant. How is her behavior any better than the so called 'sex' in the game? If anything her behavior is so much more damaging to society because it leads to segregation and violence because no one respects others beliefs.
This post has been edited by jdsony: Yesterday, 06:49 PM
Post by: Opoth on February 03, 2020, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: Aerok on February 03, 2020, 11:28:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 25, 2008, 07:50:00 AM
check out the latest customer reviews for her book:
http://www.amazon.co...erBy=addOneStar
she pretty much committed publishing suicide
Post by: grim_d on January 25, 2008, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 25, 2008, 01:16:00 PM
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If your life is shallow and worthless, by all means read this book. Filled with enough (mis)information that it would make undergrad sociology student puke, this lame, derivative and worthless author is a shining beacon of what happens when something thinks way too much about themselves. I'd say shame on Cooper Laurence, but the words are too big and dang it, she just wouldn't understand. Maybe if I drew a picture in crayon with all the R's reversed.... Go do some research first you parasite feeding on morons and 12 year old girls. Don't take a word of this tripe seriously.
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Much like her other books, Been There Done That force feeds her nonsense down your throats. I haven't actually read the book, but judging from its cover I'm sure it's filled with hardcore pornography.
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I haven't actually read this but I'm under the impression that it is nothing but pernicious, misogynistic pornography of the lowest order. I'm told that there are explicit sexual passages where women debase themselves for the pleasure of men and reveal themselves to be nothing more than toys for men's sexual gratification. Experts say that books like these actually deform women's and men's minds and lead them down the road toward violent sexuality, rape and perversity. In fact, I'm not sure why we allow books at all. Who can trust them if they're not monitored for offensive content by a government agency? Is this book rated? How will we keep it out of the hands of children?