Post by: mathias on October 29, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
or did they strip down madden on xbox improve visuals and package it?
Post by: Kernal69er on October 29, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
I heard (and sorry forget where) that EA Sports, are just the same as Xbox but with pumped up visuals and some even have less options as they were rushed for time
Post by: jvanepps on October 29, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: gaz_dennis on October 29, 2005, 03:38:00 PM
QUOTE(jvanepps @ Oct 29 2005, 11:41 PM)
i heard it was built from the ground up as well. I just went pay off my 360 and put madden on reserve so i hope it is good. I will find out soon i guess.
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Post by: Deftech on October 29, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
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If those games are built from the ground up, EA is more pathetic than I thought.
NFS looks terrible for a 360 game, thats a port 4 sure. Tiger woods is crap, Madden looks better than it did a while back but built from the ground up? Im not an EA fan so I dont get all worked up over this, but if thats EA's best efforts with early hardware, they are truly pathetic. I havent seen much of the Live one lately
I'll eat my words if the final versions are better than what we are seeing now, but yuck.
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Post by: mathias on October 29, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
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I read that madden was built from ground up in gameinformer mag.... the one with superman on the cover.... but I guess we all have to play it to believe it
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Post by: Kernal69er on October 31, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on October 29, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
NFS looks terrible for a 360 game, thats a port 4 sure. Tiger woods is crap, Madden looks better than it did a while back but built from the ground up? Im not an EA fan so I dont get all worked up over this, but if thats EA's best efforts with early hardware, they are truly pathetic. I havent seen much of the Live one lately
I'll eat my words if the final versions are better than what we are seeing now, but yuck.
Post by: mathias on October 29, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
Post by: Kernal69er on October 31, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 29 2005, 09:31 PM)
If those games are built from the ground up, EA is more pathetic than I thought.
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Post by: Deftech on October 31, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on October 31, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Kernal69er @ Oct 31 2005, 04:34 PM)
Your crazy or smoking some good stuff (if so pass it along) for me, I hate Football period and never played a madden game before, but always check the videos. This madden looks friggin real as hell
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Post by: Kernal69er on October 31, 2005, 01:45:00 PM
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Post by: Kernal69er on October 31, 2005, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 31 2005, 05:43 PM)
No offense but I don't put any stock into your comments after saying you didn't see "any" difference in the Kong pics.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on October 31, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
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I believe they they built it from the ground up....
After all they're going to be using these "new" engines for the next 10 years of this consoles life
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Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
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i dont believe that they can even build an engine from the ground up for the 360 if they wanted to, they only had the finished product since august, so that right there proves something. also it seems more feasable that they just took the existing madden and rewrote enough of the engine to look (in their opinion) next gen. i hate EA and the madden series but i do think it looks good. however i have to agree that if it was really built for the ground for the 360 i would think it would look a lot better. yes im impressed by the 3d crowds, the stadiums, and the character models but i was dissapointed by a lot more. why isnt the grass pixal shaded? why doesnt the skin of the players look better? why is the lighting not as profound as in other games? as much as this game impresses it also dissapoints IMO. NBA LIVE does look next gen to me but madden doesnt look to really tap into the 360 even for a launch title. if they could already get a level of realism for games like LIVE and Fight Night, why not their star sports game Madden??
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Title: Is It True?
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
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tried to edit it but wouldnt let me, as i was going to add......
.....also while the superman is being developed by the same team and using the same engine (the madden 06 engine) the game is being developed for the 360 and the current gen of consoles. so what does that mean? the developers have already stated that they are building this as a next gen game first then scaling back for the current gen consoles but does that mean that they are using the next gen madden engine for the 360 version of superman and the current madden engine for the current gen consoles or are they using the next gen madden engine for all the consoles and just scaling back the game for the current gen of consoles because it would seem like more work then its worth to scale back a "next gen" engine just to make it work and fit on the current gen hardware (especially the ps2).
something about all this just doesnt add up to me
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Title: Is It True?
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on October 31, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
After all they're going to be using these "new" engines for the next 10 years of this consoles life
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 04:20:00 PM
.....also while the superman is being developed by the same team and using the same engine (the madden 06 engine) the game is being developed for the 360 and the current gen of consoles. so what does that mean? the developers have already stated that they are building this as a next gen game first then scaling back for the current gen consoles but does that mean that they are using the next gen madden engine for the 360 version of superman and the current madden engine for the current gen consoles or are they using the next gen madden engine for all the consoles and just scaling back the game for the current gen of consoles because it would seem like more work then its worth to scale back a "next gen" engine just to make it work and fit on the current gen hardware (especially the ps2).
something about all this just doesnt add up to me
Post by: KAGE360 on October 31, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE(gaz_dennis @ Oct 31 2005, 07:32 PM)
some good stuff in there.just a question about the point u make at the begining regarding the game engine.would they have needed the finished 360 to start develping a new engine.wouldnt the engine have been worked on then adapted for 360.surely this is the case when ur gonna be using the engine over a range of next gen platforms.
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Post by: Deftech on October 31, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on October 31, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
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also im kinda confused on this whole using the engine for 10 years thing. if the average life cycle of a console is 5 years, why would they use this madden engine (which already looks sub-par) on the next-next gen systems??
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Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Nov 1 2005, 01:08 AM)
Because its EA...
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Post by: Deftech on November 01, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on November 01, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Nov 1 2005, 01:07 PM)
burnout is actually a great game. played revenge for the first time last weak (which is also the first burnout i ever played) and it was a blast (no pun intended) other then HL and battlefield 360, that may be the first EA game i cosider buying since mutant league football.
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Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
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damn DP
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Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on November 01, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Nov 1 2005, 03:19 PM)
whoa whoa! back that shit up!
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Post by: Deftech on November 01, 2005, 12:37:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on November 01, 2005, 12:37:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Nov 1 2005, 01:31 PM)
well now im agreeing with you.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 01, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
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Like I really care anyways, FIFA sucks and long live PES/WE
Here is the link to the rest of the gameplay shots
http://www.fifa06onl...xbox3602610.php
Well, FIFA has been on the same engine since FIFA 98, just better graphics and guess what, the xbox 360 version is still on that same engine.....................
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Post by: akodoreign on November 01, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
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Hmmm.. Im looking at madden like this.
Sega sports made a supperior game last year.
Madden goes out seals sole ownership of licenced games.
Madden gets to sit back do nothing and sell games.
I doubt it will be any good.
I know its far from realistic but thank god I have Blitz.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 01, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
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Find the gameplay vids and you will see that is plays the same, I know you will as a fellow PES man.
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Post by: gaz_dennis on November 01, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 01, 2005, 01:21:00 PM
Like I really care anyways, FIFA sucks and long live PES/WEHere is the link to the rest of the gameplay shots
http://www.fifa06onl...xbox3602610.php
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also im kinda confused on this whole using the engine for 10 years thing. if the average life cycle of a console is 5 years, why would they use this madden engine (which already looks sub-par) on the next-next gen systems??
Well, FIFA has been on the same engine since FIFA 98, just better graphics and guess what, the xbox 360 version is still on that same engine.....................
Post by: akodoreign on November 01, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
Sega sports made a supperior game last year.
Madden goes out seals sole ownership of licenced games.
Madden gets to sit back do nothing and sell games.
I doubt it will be any good.
I know its far from realistic but thank god I have Blitz.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on November 01, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
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how do u know fifa rtwc plays the same as fifa 06
Find the gameplay vids and you will see that is plays the same, I know you will as a fellow PES man.
Post by: gaz_dennis on November 01, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Nov 2 2005, 12:20 AM)
Find the gameplay vids and you will see that is plays the same, I know you will as a fellow PES man.