Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
then finally, breakthru! so after about 2 hours i got thru the exercise. cool! of course, after 100 moves i kinda forgot, so i went thru it again. took me almost no time then. ok, thought i could get the hang of it. nope. ended up just button mashing. the moves i did do always, always got countered right in the middle of it! and here i am thinking it couldn't be done since in the sparring, i could never do it, only on the first move.
so, back to the sparring, back to the dull grind....but i learned how to break a combo. cool. tried the story mode again. hmm, not really helping. took me 30 min. of pleading with God to let me win that i finally beat the boss.
so, all in all i spent a good 4.5 hours to get thru 1/17 of the story mode.....on the easiest difficulty. now, i think its one thing to make a game hard, harder than usual....but with some kinda learning curve. at least give me a chance to see the entire game, and learn about the story, blah blah. i mean, ask me how much fun i had last night?
i dunno what it is, but i just cannot get thru this game. i feel like i should be taking a course on this game, or there must be something i'm missing.....lol, some genetic code....or maybe there's just a secret about the game that you get when you beat it but its forbidden to share it. fuck if i know, but i feel like i'm missing out.
*sigh*
Post by: LowProfileWurm on January 04, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
FUCK was yelled many many times. But I must say the feeling of achievement is much greater with this game.
My only advice is to become EXTREMELY proficient with the reversal system and blocking.
Post by: Rubix42 on January 04, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
I spent 10 hours playing the story mode with each character. I kid you not, I spent 10 hours playing through 136 battles.
If you do the math, that means that on average, each fight took me 4.4 minutes.
10 hours*60 minutes=600 minutes / 136 battles=4.4 minutes per fight!!!
That's some ugly numbers right there.
No I've spent some time in sparring learning the timing on the counters, and learning the moves for each character, I can now go through time attack and earn a bronze.
Some people will be turned away by the Team Ninja hardcore gamer philosophy, I for one find their games to be the most replayable because I love playing a challenging game.
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
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Believe me, you are not alone. I had to fight the tempation to chuck my controller at the ground when I spent 18 minutes trying to beat Alpha in Time Attack with the Spartan
lol i spent almost an hour last night on time attack with the spartan and the majority of time was spent on fighting alpha, which is weird because the first time i faced alpha using the spartan i beat her on my second try.
Post by: jaskerzada006 on January 04, 2006, 10:25:00 AM
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For the first time in years my phucking thumbs are sore! How cool is that?
Hey, are you sore from the dpad or playing with your analog stick?
(Couldn't resist.)
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
J/k, the learning curve on DOA is a tough one, There's a very wide gap between button masher and proficient player. First time players can have a lot of beginers luck but that will only get you so far. It's funny because when playing against someone I've never played against before I typically loose the first round, then win all the rest, it takes me the first round to learn how they play before I can beat them (really bad for me playing online with 1 round matches rotating against 8 different people
)Learning the reversals is key they easily do the most damage, I've been playing DOA since the first version hit the arcade so I'm fairly familiar with the timing of things, but sometimes I feel DOA4 is difficult even for the veterans of the series because a lot of the finer points of the gameplay have changed. They're similar enough that you think you can get away playing the old way but old habits die hard.
In that respect it puts old timers and newcomers on a level playing field but it's definitely a difficult game and it's definitely only mastered with laser guided precisions of timing and button combinations.
The boss character is super cheap, I've been playing through Time Attack with all the characters to unlock Tengu and no joke with Leon my time for that mode was 48minutes
You think she's hard in Story mode try beating her 2 out of 3 
That was just a fluke (my next worst time is 15minutes) but damn that was a frustrating play through.The key is to just keep pounding on her, counter her when she starts a combo (kicks combos are low counters punch combos are mid counters). The best is to do fast punch combos and if she teliports hold off immediately and readjust before starting again. Another technique is to do a run attack, distance yourself run in and attack. If she teliports while you're running attack immediately. Also watch her hands, if she makes any sudden movements at all while you're running in, attack immediately, she's moving because you're about to enter attack range, if you attack right then and there you'll get your hit in before she does.
Stay away from high punches or kicks, thats where she does the counter where she blasts your face off. She can do it as a throw too so don't be surprised if it still happens. Mid attacks are best because she can only teliport counter those.
Also if you're getting up from an attack and she's hovering just slightly above the ground slowly falling, if you hit her no matter what, she'll teliport behind you or to your side. So don't be tempted to just jump up and attack. You can ether time your attack to hit as soon as she touches ground or you can hit her with a quick attack forcing her to teleport where you expect and hit her with something stronger.
For general play the absolute best strategy in DOA is the juggle combo, Learn which movies pop your opponent up in the air then follow those up with a long easy combo to keep them up in the air. If you can learn a few moves that knock them up in the air and 1 long combo for each character you're golden. Opponents can't counter when they're in the air. Also if you do the same move more than twice expect the computer to counter it when you try it a 3rd time. So it's important to rotate which attacks you use, learn a few low, high, mid punch, mid kick attacks and mix it up to keep the computer guessing.
You can also use the computer's AI against it by doing the same thing twice in a row, then change it up
For instance a forward forward kick attack followed by the same forward forward kick attack. If you connected both time and try it a third the computer will counter, so do forward forward then THROW, the computer will be trying to counter and you'll get your throw in instead.
The Biggest thing to keep in mind is DOA is like a really complex game of Rock Paper Scissors, Attacks beat Throws, Throws beat counters and Counters beat Attacks. Thankfully counters and throws are the easiest to master and are essentially the same for everyone. Pay attention to when your opponent uses what type of moves and do it's superior. If you notice some guy always starts with an attack, you should start with a counter, if you notice they always counter your getup attack, getup and throw them after you've been knocked down. Human players especially get in habits of using certain moves in certain situations, being able to know what they're going to try to use your opponent will swear you have precognition.
Counters are the most valuable by far (I've beat people using nothing but counters before) They're the most powerful because they're the most difficult to execute, but luckily they're also the easiest to learn. They're even easier if you're familiar with the various moves the different characters can perform.
Like anything things get easier with practice. If you're trying to get through the game and find yourself button mashing the best thing to do is just stop and don't make any movies unless you make a conscientious decision to do so (pause and look at the command list and remember two or three moves, then try them in battle). I think you'll find matches become much less stressful and you'll start to see opening when you can attack. Try NOT to act on instinct, its difficult to do because the game is so fast paced but IMO it's the only way you can truly break button masher habits. Once you get in the hang of when to calmly use the right move and where you can let yourself start to act more in instinct.
Hope that was helpful... DOA is hard but don't give up!
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2006, 10:44:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jan 4 2006, 12:35 PM) 
D-pad dude.
Even for a 3D fighter, d-pad is still the way to go!
So very true... though it's a shame the Xbox360 D-Pads are such total junk
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 10:51:00 AM
and props to those of you who can really play this game. i swear i am gonna get the hang of it even if it takes me to the next xbox to do it. but even still, seems kinda ridiculous for someone new to the game, who really likes it (not to mention the only fighting game out for 360), but has to spend the next few days, or even weeks with one char. in sparring and exercises just to learn enough to compete proficiently. unless i spent all day every day with this one game, it could literally take me a year before i even get Helena. geez.....that almost sounds depressing now. luckily i like the game.....i mean, i really like it or i would've given up f'sho
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jan 4 2006, 12:21 PM)
It's called filtering out the weak from the strong.
Itagaki enjoys making it tough for the rest of us, but that's what I love about his games
We saw challenging gameplay disappear in the last two generations as video games became more mainstream with the introduction of the Playstation.
All of a sudden video games were no longer directed at hardcore gamers anymore.
But that changed with Ninja Gaiden for the Xbox thanx to Itagaki and Team Ninja!
Actually Ninja Gaiden wasn't as challenging as many 8 bit and 16 bit games but it sure was up there. I think that gamers in general were conditioned with easy @$$ gameplay over the past several years to the point that when a throw back action game like NG came out, they just weren't prepared for it.
Challenging gameplay is good, it keeps me coming back
FYI, that freakin time attack mode in DOA 4 is pretty darn tough.
For the first time in years my phucking thumbs are sore! How cool is that?
i totally agree and thats what i was saying.
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 4 2006, 12:51 PM)
So very true... though it's a shame the Xbox360 D-Pads are such total junk
i use the D-pad and for the most part it does me good, i think they just need breaking in. my pad on the duke was stiff at first but when i got rid of my xbox it was loose and accurate, which was great for DoA.
dabigdilla i could always give you a good beating and maybe show you a thing or two.
i would like to fight anyone here actually, im not the best player but im good enough to have fun fighting. Post by: Erick on January 04, 2006, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(dabigdilla @ Jan 4 2006, 06:58 PM)
wow, thanks twisted! seriously....like, i'm about to print that post and use it as a manual when i get home
and props to those of you who can really play this game. i swear i am gonna get the hang of it even if it takes me to the next xbox to do it. but even still, seems kinda ridiculous for someone new to the game, who really likes it (not to mention the only fighting game out for 360), but has to spend the next few days, or even weeks with one char. in sparring and exercises just to learn enough to compete proficiently. unless i spent all day every day with this one game, it could literally take me a year before i even get Helena. geez.....that almost sounds depressing now. luckily i like the game.....i mean, i really like it or i would've given up f'sho
the game is easy on normal..
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2006, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Erick @ Jan 4 2006, 01:04 PM)
the game is easy on normal..
you obviously play alot, you haven't even had time to update your sig
Post by: Shinamano on January 04, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
Anyhow sicne I have not found one on Xbox Live yet anyone care to go a few rounds?
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
QUOTE(dabigdilla @ Jan 4 2006, 12:58 PM)
wow, thanks twisted! seriously....like, i'm about to print that post and use it as a manual when i get home
and props to those of you who can really play this game. i swear i am gonna get the hang of it even if it takes me to the next xbox to do it. but even still, seems kinda ridiculous for someone new to the game, who really likes it (not to mention the only fighting game out for 360), but has to spend the next few days, or even weeks with one char. in sparring and exercises just to learn enough to compete proficiently. unless i spent all day every day with this one game, it could literally take me a year before i even get Helena. geez.....that almost sounds depressing now. luckily i like the game.....i mean, i really like it or i would've given up f'sho
i think all that playing is a good thing, at least your getting your moneys worth. if a game has enough depth to keep you playing months to a year later its a good thing IMO as long as plaing it doesnt become a chore
QUOTE
the game is easy on normal..
im a vet with the series and even on normal the AI gives me a healthy challenge
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 12:21:00 PM
for instance, cod2 i can get thru on normal, and some parts were frustratingly hard. it was a really different shooter than what i'm used to, but i had a chance to learn as I went. now i am going back thru it on veteran and its amazingly hard. i'll spend over an hour just to get thru one checkpoint. but there is real progress being made. i mean, its not that i'm THAT weak at games. i'm no MLGer, but i can compete at the very least on a normal difficulty in any game.
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
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i haven't seen anything yet after nearly 5 hours. thats not depth, thats exclusion.
that sucks that you dont see any improvements after 5 hours of play, maybe there is something your doing wrong in how your training. what i found most helpful is going through the excersize once then taking the same character and playing either a mode (story, TA, survival, online, etc) and applying the moves i just learned in real combat scenerios. just keep at it, it shouldnt feel like a chore, once your playing with the same character so much it feels like a chore, switch it up to a different person because once the fun ends that may effect your willingness to learn. like i said i have been playing since part one on the saturn and ps1 and it even took me a day or two to get used to the changes made in the fighting system.
Post by: Shinamano on January 04, 2006, 12:45:00 PM
That is what I think about unlocking teh costumes...nothing but a chore.
As for the game it really is quite simple to play...take your time with your attacks, vary them and when the enemy is on the offense...block or counter (countering takes time, but blocking is easy)
Post by: Deftech on January 04, 2006, 12:48:00 PM
QUOTE(dabigdilla @ Jan 4 2006, 02:28 PM)
well, getting your money's worth of gaming is one thing, but having to go about it like chores is a whole other thing. its simply not fun doing the same thing over and over. its nice to have depth, but thats just the thing....i haven't seen anything yet after nearly 5 hours. thats not depth, thats exclusion.
for instance, cod2 i can get thru on normal, and some parts were frustratingly hard. it was a really different shooter than what i'm used to, but i had a chance to learn as I went. now i am going back thru it on veteran and its amazingly hard. i'll spend over an hour just to get thru one checkpoint. but there is real progress being made. i mean, its not that i'm THAT weak at games. i'm no MLGer, but i can compete at the very least on a normal difficulty in any game.
quit whining
go play Gaiden and fight Alma a few hundred times until you dont use all your ninpo, only to get out and be attacked by rocket launching bastards and tanks.
Is this the first DOA youve ever played? just curious
speaking of difficulty, someday Id like to get Gaiden Black just to piss myself off and toss controllers at walls
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Jan 4 2006, 02:52 PM)
"well, getting your money's worth of gaming is one thing, but having to go about it like chores is a whole other thing. its simply not fun doing the same thing over and over."
That is what I think about unlocking teh costumes...nothing but a chore.
As for the game it really is quite simple to play...take your time with your attacks, vary them and when the enemy is on the offense...block or counter (countering takes time, but blocking is easy)
you could always just play online and buy the outfits from zack's shop
playing the game is simple but to learn how to effectively use the attacks and really play the game is a harder task, mastering the timing and how to read moves for the counters are one of the biggest aspects of the game IMO.
all this DoA talk makes me want to have a xbox-scene DoA tournament, that way we can school eachother while i come out on top
Post by: jaskerzada006 on January 04, 2006, 01:18:00 PM
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speaking of difficulty, someday Id like to get Gaiden Black just to piss myself off and toss controllers at walls
OMG!!!!
The missions will RAPE you!
Post by: Rubix42 on January 04, 2006, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 4 2006, 02:55 PM)
quit whining
go play Gaiden and fight Alma a few hundred times until you dont use all your ninpo, only to get out and be attacked by rocket launching bastards and tanks.
I've never been a controller thrower no matter how frustrating, hard, or if I have to do something a few times. That boss in Gaiden made me want to fucking kill someone. I swear I spent 2 or 3 hours dieing a hundred deaths against her. I seriously broke my controller after that. I threw it on the ground and stomped the hell out of it, and swore I would never play the game again.
2 days later I bought a new controller and finally beat her, what a chore that was.
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 4 2006, 11:55 AM)
quit whining
go play Gaiden and fight Alma a few hundred times until you dont use all your ninpo, only to get out and be attacked by rocket launching bastards and tanks.
Is this the first DOA youve ever played? just curious
first, fuck you. i'm not whining (per se
) but more explaining what it is i'm doing and wondering from those that have beat the game what it is i'm doing wrong. already i stated my frustration with NG (haven't even got past level 1), so i know nothing of Alma (cept i date this hot model chick named Alma 8) )anywayz, i was frustrated my first time, and thought i'd read up on the game sommore. and i found out there's an exercise that lets you do all the moves, blah blah, shit i didn't know. so that is where i spent 4 hours yesterday. then another hour after (thinking) i learned the moves. with just one char. my point is not to just rant, tho i did warn you, lol. the point was i am trying everything i've read and have given it more than an honest, dedicated try and still come up with absolutely nothing. and what's worse is that i REALLY like this game, to the point i'm killing myself tryna make progress. *sigh*
and yes, this is the first DOA i've got my hands on. so does that mean i don't deserve to stand a chance?
i am just confused.....and it doesn't help that i'm at work and not practicing
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 01:53:00 PM
QUOTE(dabigdilla @ Jan 4 2006, 03:37 PM)
first, fuck you. i'm not whining (per se
) but more explaining what it is i'm doing and wondering from those that have beat the game what it is i'm doing wrong. already i stated my frustration with NG (haven't even got past level 1), so i know nothing of Alma (cept i date this hot model chick named Alma 8) )anywayz, i was frustrated my first time, and thought i'd read up on the game sommore. and i found out there's an exercise that lets you do all the moves, blah blah, shit i didn't know. so that is where i spent 4 hours yesterday. then another hour after (thinking) i learned the moves. with just one char. my point is not to just rant, tho i did warn you, lol. the point was i am trying everything i've read and have given it more than an honest, dedicated try and still come up with absolutely nothing. and what's worse is that i REALLY like this game, to the point i'm killing myself tryna make progress. *sigh*
and yes, this is the first DOA i've got my hands on. so does that mean i don't deserve to stand a chance?
i am just confused.....and it doesn't help that i'm at work and not practicing
it will take a lot more then just 5 hours of practicing to come to grips with all the mechanics for most people. i have to ask, the one person who you practiced for 5 hours, do you atleast know the moves that you have been learning those 5 hours? if so then the best practice you can get is playing online by people either on your level or better, that way from observing and just experience in general you will learn over time. learn the moves for your fav. characters first then worry about using them effectively.
Post by: Deftech on January 04, 2006, 01:59:00 PM
QUOTE(dabigdilla @ Jan 4 2006, 03:37 PM)
first, fuck you. i'm not whining (per se
) but more explaining what it is i'm doing and wondering from those that have beat the game what it is i'm doing wrong. already i stated my frustration with NG (haven't even got past level 1), so i know nothing of Alma (cept i date this hot model chick named Alma 8) )anywayz, i was frustrated my first time, and thought i'd read up on the game sommore. and i found out there's an exercise that lets you do all the moves, blah blah, shit i didn't know. so that is where i spent 4 hours yesterday. then another hour after (thinking) i learned the moves. with just one char. my point is not to just rant, tho i did warn you, lol. the point was i am trying everything i've read and have given it more than an honest, dedicated try and still come up with absolutely nothing. and what's worse is that i REALLY like this game, to the point i'm killing myself tryna make progress. *sigh*
and yes, this is the first DOA i've got my hands on. so does that mean i don't deserve to stand a chance?
i am just confused.....and it doesn't help that i'm at work and not practicing
calm down there tough guy
I asked if it was your first DOA because you seemed surprised at the level of difficulty. I assumed correctly.
If you havent gotten past level 1 in Gaiden, unload it and get some $$ back. You'll only give yourself ulcers and your model chick gf named Alma wont like that now will she.
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 4 2006, 01:06 PM)
calm down there tough guy
I asked if it was your first DOA because you seemed surprised at the level of difficulty. I assumed correctly.
If you havent gotten past level 1 in Gaiden, unload it and get some $$ back. You'll only give yourself ulcers and your model chick gf named Alma wont like that now will she.
oh c'mon now....what was the very first thing you said to me? i was just responding in tone.....forgot to add the streetfighter2 high punch sound with the backhand to ya head
i thought i was being nice. you prolly thot you were doing the same
and please, i never get rid of a great, exclusive game for my xbox, for the simple fact i might be inclined to give it a go again....such as now where i might pick up on some techniques that'll help me with doa.
Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 04, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
Even though I'm proud that we got all story modes before going to sleep Saturday Morning I suck playing online. I actually got twice the accomplishment for lossing 10 straight fights. I've been beaten by guys without connecting with any hit in about 5 fights. I don't know my overall record but I know I have a 16% Winning Pct.
How Ironic!
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Vinestrike77 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:18 PM)
The toughest was beating Alpha with the African-Brazilian Dancing dude.
hate to break it to you man but that "dude" is a girl named lisa, im not sure if you noticed the tits and all but thats one of the hottest "dudes" i have ever seen
playing online is NOTHING like playing the computer and just because you can beat the game fine doesnt mean jack on LIVE. i thought i would be great the first time i played online but i got schooled for the first few days. all the DoA games i have played, i would beat the computer like a joke, and would beat out any friends who would come over to play so it was safe to assume that i was pretty good. well i got a good smack of reality when i played DoA:U and found out that i really wasnt as good as i thought but just maybe everyone in my area just sucked real bad
well the best think i did to improve my skill is just played against people constantly and learned enough things to kick my skills up a notch.
Post by: Deftech on January 04, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 02:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 4 2006, 01:39 PM)
by all means keep playing Gaiden. Tell the Horse boss on stage 3(I think) that I say hello. If you beat it, you've accomplished something.
lol
to that!Post by: cyberg4 on January 04, 2006, 02:43:00 PM
. I want to try out DOA4 now hearing it's difficulty level rather high, but I'll probably wait until it comes into EB games as a previously played game, that someone found as "too difficult". shouldn't be too long, judging by the frustration expressed in this thread alone.Edit: Kudos to team ninja for not making their games rediculously easy. The sense of accomplishment after beating a stage in Ninja Gaiden is much more rewarding than passing a mission in a game like Fable, or the LOTR games, which were much easier.
Post by: Rubix42 on January 04, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 4 2006, 04:39 PM)
by all means keep playing Gaiden. Tell the Horse boss on stage 3(I think) that I say hello. If you beat it, you've accomplished something.
Our horsey friend is on stage 2, and I found him to be much easier than stage 1. Ninpo fire and a horse's buttock's just don't make friends
Anyways to help out our ranting board brethren. Here is some tips.
Don't play angry, you'll just wear out your controller and whatever patience you have left.
Play DoA for fun, just realize that challenging means more fun later, less fun now. Try and stay calm while you lose 50 times in a row.
Learn the counter system, then I highly suggest playing sparring, but have the computer controlled char. on a level 8. It will routinely kick your ass, but that way you have a moving target to hit, and no health to worry about, focus on learning a couple of combos for each char. and being able to counter a few times here and there.
Play through the story mode. Once again, stop caring about your win loss record, play for fun and trying to enjoy it. I can't remember how many times I died playing the original ninja gaiden on NES, but I sure remember the day I ran whooping and hollering through the house in my pj's when I finally beat it! (sure wish I had an achievement for that
)It will take much patience, and a whole lot of losing, but you will come to the point that you can consistently beat the comp. on normal. By the time I was working on story with Hayate (played all other char's first) I beat Alpha on my first try.
It took me about 200+ tries with Ryu Hayabusa (second char in story mode) trust me, you'll get it, just walk away from it for a while if you get pissed though. There is no point in playng if you're going to get upset.
And remember, this is coming from a guy who gets excited when I am beat by a game and it is a really tough challenge. I find almost every game I play to be really, really easy.
QUOTE(cyberg4 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:50 PM)
Anyone who beats gaiden on the hardest difficulty as well as all of the missions in NGB deserves a hero cookie, fresh from team ninja. That game is freaking rediculous. Alma is impossible to beat on normal as is (I'm still working on beating her on normal), but on hard,
. I want to try out DOA4 now hearing it's difficulty level rather high, but I'll probably wait until it comes into EB games as a previously played game, that someone found as "too difficult". shouldn't be too long, judging by the frustration expressed in this thread alone.I am on level 4 in NGB on the Ninja Master difficulty. I play it about 1 hour a week. If I can make one checkpoint in that hour, I am very, very happy!
I think at this point it would be easier for me to become a real ninja that it would be to finish that game.
Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 04, 2006, 02:53:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:32 PM)
hate to break it to you man but that "dude" is a girl named lisa, im not sure if you noticed the tits and all but thats one of the hottest "dudes" i have ever seen
No F%(*ing Way! That cannot be a girl. I think you are referring to La Mariposa which is the Mask Chick with the big Juggies. I'm referring to the Black guy with the dark glasses. He's the guy that has Costume #3 (upon completing in story mode) that looks like glow in the dark condom!
Post by: KAGE360 on January 04, 2006, 03:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Vinestrike77 @ Jan 4 2006, 05:00 PM)
No F%(*ing Way! That cannot be a girl. I think you are referring to La Mariposa which is the Mask Chick with the big Juggies. I'm referring to the Black guy with the dark glasses. He's the guy that has Costume #3 (upon completing in story mode) that looks like glow in the dark condom!
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jan 4 2006, 05:09 PM)
I think he's talking about the Muy Thai guy hahaha
oh....
sorry
this part threw me off >
QUOTE
African-Brazilian Dancing
when i saw dancing i think that lisa's fighting style looks more like dancing then any other (break dancing that is) sorry ok carry on then
Post by: Deftech on January 04, 2006, 03:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Rubix42 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:58 PM)
Our horsey friend is on stage 2, and I found him to be much easier than stage 1. Ninpo fire and a horse's buttock's just don't make friends
whats stage 3, the airship? its been pretty much 2 years since I played it, my memory is fading
I thought the first boss was kinda easy. I beat him 100 times just to see Ayane run in
The horse boss wasnt terrible, but with any boss, I try to save as much ninpo as possible for later battles, so I made it a lot harder than it needed 2 be.
back on topic..
Im still chuckling that kage thought that Vinestrike thought that Lisa was a dude
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
I can understand not remembering the japaese names but ZACH?
Post by: dabigdilla on January 04, 2006, 03:41:00 PM
Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 04, 2006, 03:46:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 4 2006, 02:35 PM)
ZACH... the characters name is ZACH
I can understand not remembering the japaese names but ZACH?
Is it really! Zach does not fit the profile. He looks more like a Kobe or Slick Rick
Post by: LowProfileWurm on January 04, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Vinestrike77 @ Jan 4 2006, 05:53 PM)
Is it really! Zach does not fit the profile. He looks more like a Kobe or Slick Rick
Me and my friends lovingly refer to him as "Rodman"... of the Dennis variety. Not that it matters much, we don't really use him.
Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 04, 2006, 05:02:00 PM
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Post by: Justaren on January 04, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
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Post by: Sulik2 on January 04, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
Oh, and am I the only one who actually finds counters easier to pull off in this game than in the previous titles? I know the window is supposed to be smaller, but it sure doesn't seem like it. I use the D-pad, much more precise control, really makes it easier to reverse.
On a side note, one of my biggest complaints about video games these days is how short and easy so many games are. I am sorry 10 hours on the first play through, or 6.5 hours in some cases (I'm looking at you ultimate spider man) is not acceptable. The main story and missions should be at least 15 hours. Then your side quests and some replayability extend it to at least 20 hours. If you can't get 20 hours of play in 3 years of development you shouldn't be making games. Plus you make games so easy that any decent player can just blaze through them with ease on the first play. Not acceptable. Difficulty and smart AI is what makes games like Ninja Gaiden or Halo on legendary fun.
Post by: aic007 on January 04, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
Post by: yaazz on January 04, 2006, 11:02:00 PM
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on January 05, 2006, 01:48:00 PM
pretty good faq
Post by: shin0bi on January 05, 2006, 10:20:00 PM