Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 09:37:00 AM
http://teamninja.1up.com/
it begins today, 4 pages worth already posted
A Must read for a few of you, I dont need to mention names
Kokoro will be in DOAX 2
Post by: Shinamano on September 26, 2005, 09:56:00 AM
Def...check out the link in the PDZ mag thread i posted for you
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 09:59:00 AM
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Hardware Matters
1UP: When you guys were developing for the original Xbox, you coded very close to the metal of the hardware. You made all kinds of custom libraries and made the hardware do things it wasn't designed to do by default. Plus, you also made great use of the hard-drive to achieve what you did in your games. Does the Xbox 360 not having a hard-drive packed in with every unit make it harder for you to achieve the same type of results?
TI: We're making it so that it will run at absolute best performance with the hard disk, but it will still run without the hard disk.
1UP: When you guys were developing for the original Xbox, you coded very close to the metal of the hardware. You made all kinds of custom libraries and made the hardware do things it wasn't designed to do by default. Plus, you also made great use of the hard-drive to achieve what you did in your games. Does the Xbox 360 not having a hard-drive packed in with every unit make it harder for you to achieve the same type of results?
TI: We're making it so that it will run at absolute best performance with the hard disk, but it will still run without the hard disk.
Like most of us here said months ago, the GOOD developers will take full advantage of the hdd. they arent cutting any corners for those that have it.
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1UP: Well one of the sad side-effects of the original Xbox's lifespan is that every unit had a hard-drive built in, and yet very few developers ever really took advantage of it to do anything other than to give you a big fat memory card. There was your lowest common denominator, everyone had a hard-drive, and still no one really did anything with it besides you and a few other select developers. So now on 360 you have to do twice the work, since it's no longer standard. Sounds like it sucks.
TI: I was the first person outside of MS to know they were going to do this, the two packages. And when I first heard that, I was surprised, I was kind of shocked, it impacted me at the time. But the point is that what everyone's feeling right now, to us that happened months ago. I've already gotten through that, I've already digested it and got past it, so that's why I really can't get too worked up over it right now. So MS is very clever. They know how to say white is white, black is black and gray is gray, that's how they discuss things. And that's very similar to my development philosophies, so I can relate to them.
TI: I was the first person outside of MS to know they were going to do this, the two packages. And when I first heard that, I was surprised, I was kind of shocked, it impacted me at the time. But the point is that what everyone's feeling right now, to us that happened months ago. I've already gotten through that, I've already digested it and got past it, so that's why I really can't get too worked up over it right now. So MS is very clever. They know how to say white is white, black is black and gray is gray, that's how they discuss things. And that's very similar to my development philosophies, so I can relate to them.
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Sep 26 2005, 12:07 PM)
Despite the site it is a good read...
Def...check out the link in the PDZ mag thread i posted for you :beer:
Def...check out the link in the PDZ mag thread i posted for you :beer:
be more specific, I didnt see anything directed towards me. Im on 3 hours of sleep so go easy on me.
I replied several times in that thread :(
Post by: Shinamano on September 26, 2005, 10:14:00 AM
What is this sleep thing you speak of?
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 10:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Sep 26 2005, 12:25 PM)
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=445098
I posted in General because it dealt with marketing more than the game itself.
Thanks for thinking of me though :D
Post by: miggidy on September 26, 2005, 10:33:00 AM
I love the way the 1up guy's pushing the "M$ f@#$%d up" cliche on Itagaki,
even after Itagaki confirmed he will take full advantage of the removable hard drive. :rolleyes:
Post by: KAGE360 on September 26, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
this part made me laugh, he must really hate namco's tekken and soul calibur teams because i have yet to see him say anything even close to good about either game:
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1UP: Like Soul Calibur palette swaps?
TI: Bringing up Soul Calibur suggests that Namco likes to do that sort of thing, but let's not broach that today, because we don't want to waste our time on that kind of petty stuff. I think the technique of recycling the characters and just changing the names and keeping everything else the same is just to add meaningless volume is the worst thing you can do, I hate it. I don't have time to talk about something so despicable when we have so much other stuff to talk about.
TI: Bringing up Soul Calibur suggests that Namco likes to do that sort of thing, but let's not broach that today, because we don't want to waste our time on that kind of petty stuff. I think the technique of recycling the characters and just changing the names and keeping everything else the same is just to add meaningless volume is the worst thing you can do, I hate it. I don't have time to talk about something so despicable when we have so much other stuff to talk about.
any person who thinks that itagaki is a sell out needs to remember how much of an outspoken person he is regardless of what anyone thinks of him. he bows down only to power
Post by: miggidy on September 26, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
Itagaki is the man!
I wish someone would ask him what he thinks of Ken Kutaragi :P
Post by: incognegro on September 26, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
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Nintendo! on the forefront of gimmick gaming!
lol..........classic!
Post by: Smiley:) on September 26, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
"Itagaki opens the vault on various tidbits of information spanning all of Team Ninja's upcoming Xbox 360 games: Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dead or Alive: Code Cronus, and something called Project Progressive."
WOOT Ninja Gaiden 2 is confirmed for the 360!! :beer:
Post by: redwolf on September 26, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 06:43:00 PM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Sep 26 2005, 07:33 PM)
fuck that, give me DOAX2 :D
Im there with ya bro!
and Miggidy, Id pay to ask him that question, lol.
with all the crap kens been spewing? even unbiased sites admit he says stupid shit lately, Id love to hear what Tomonobu has to say about Kenny K :P
id pay to have deftones interview itagaki and ask him that question..
:lol:
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 26, 2005, 06:56:00 PM
But there is no denying that not having an hdd as standard will limit game performance. Even when devs make a game to take advantage of an hdd when present, they will still be limited to what they could have done if the hdd was standard, because they will have to make the game run good off DVD.
From off of xbox-scene's front page, Jacques Hennequet (currently developing The Outsider for the Xbox360) had this to say:
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Last but not least, after we were told that there was no ability to fly aircrafts in the game due to the DVD drive's inability to stream the environment fast enough in full 720p resolution. We asked Jacques Hennequet (Producer for Saint's Row), "If the Xbox 360 Hard Drive was standard across both SKU's, would flying aircrafts in the game have been a reality?", Jacques simply answered "Yes". While he completely understands why MS made the decision to not include a hard drive in the Core System, I think he felt somewhat disappointed, as it could have opened up much more possibilities within the gameplay for Volition's first Xbox 360 title.
Why MS didn't go with one standard x360, with hdd, for $350 worldwide is beyond me.
This post has been edited by Foe-hammer: Sep 27 2005, 01:59 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 08:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 26 2005, 09:00 PM)
That's good news concerning the whole issue of not having the hdd stock. But as you can tell, Itagaki was not pleased with the decision, but learned to deal with it.
But there is no denying that not having an hdd as standard will limit game performance. Even when devs make a game to take advantage of an hdd when present, they will still be limited to what they could have done if the hdd was standard, because they will have to make the game run good off DVD.
From off of xbox-scene's front page, Jacques Hennequet (currently developing The Outsider for the Xbox360) had this to say:
Why MS didn't go with one standard x360, with hdd, for $350 worldwide is beyond me.
But there is no denying that not having an hdd as standard will limit game performance. Even when devs make a game to take advantage of an hdd when present, they will still be limited to what they could have done if the hdd was standard, because they will have to make the game run good off DVD.
From off of xbox-scene's front page, Jacques Hennequet (currently developing The Outsider for the Xbox360) had this to say:
Why MS didn't go with one standard x360, with hdd, for $350 worldwide is beyond me.
first off, the dev who made that comment about the planes was talked about in another thread, and the dev team is a lazy pos because other games are doing it on the 360.
secondly...if you have the hdd, you are getting the best itagaki can pump out, period. he said so. hes not cutting corners just to appease the non hdd owners. No limitations for doa 4 due to the different skus.
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1UP: When you guys were developing for the original Xbox, you coded very close to the metal of the hardware. You made all kinds of custom libraries and made the hardware do things it wasn't designed to do by default. Plus, you also made great use of the hard-drive to achieve what you did in your games. Does the Xbox 360 not having a hard-drive packed in with every unit make it harder for you to achieve the same type of results?
TI: We're making it so that it will run at absolute best performance with the hard disk, but it will still run without the hard disk.
TI: We're making it so that it will run at absolute best performance with the hard disk, but it will still run without the hard disk.
Other games? sure, there will be limitations, but as Ive said, and as others have said.. the GOOD devs will max the system out and develop as if the hdd "was" standard, so those who have a hdd will NOT feel cheated.
Epic, the hdd has no bearing whatsoever for their games running on unreal 3 engine, it was made that way.
So you already have games that use the Unreal 3 engine not being hindered by the exclusion of the hdd, and that alone is about 40 360 games. :lol: that we know about.
The GOOD devs wont hold back. And its those GOOD devs that matter, and the ones I care about. Does that solve problems for other games? nope, but I dont care. The games I want badly wont suffer :)
there are many reasons for having 2 skus, MS is in this to make $$, something they lost out on last gen due to having the hdd standard.
Not only did they lose out on each system sold because they had to pay for every hdd inside, but they made NO $$ on memory cards, something that brings in huge amounts of $$.
Now they will make $$ on the memory cards AND the seperate HDD for $100.00. No more losing 1 billion a year in their gaming dept.
they are in it to make $$. Its a business.
I cant believe we are still talking about this hdd stuff :uhh:
Post by: KAGE360 on September 26, 2005, 08:35:00 PM
of course no one will be talking down the ps3 saying that it having NO HD will hinder its performance. and why ladies and gents?? because the zombies believe in the almighty godly Cell chip. ooooo, aaahhhhhh :blink:
ok im done
Post by: maxgeek on September 26, 2005, 09:33:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 26, 2005, 10:18:00 PM
Even though there will be good devs who will take full advantage of the 360's hdd, it still will require more work, time, and money to do so, that would not be the case other wise if the hdd was standard. Do you understand what i'm saying; my concerns here?
EDIT:
While the ps3 would also benefit with a standard hdd, the ps3 is not even shipping with an hdd. So there is no, "what ifs"; it's not even an issue. If the xbox were not shipping with an hdd at all, there would be no discussion about it; as is the case with the ps3.
Also, the hdd has become accustom to the xbox; the main thing that separated it from the other consoles. So to not have it standard will create discussion/concerns. Sony or Nintendo never had an hdd, so who cares; there's nothing to talk about.
This post has been edited by Foe-hammer: Sep 27 2005, 05:31 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
I didnt say the good devs will be the only ones that are "able to" use the hdd. I said the good devs will max their games out as if the hdd IS standard, thats a huge fuggin difference.
"being able" is totally different from taking the time and using it. They are all able, but most wont maximize their game so that the hardcore owners get the best possible game.
again, the games I want wont suffer from limitations. DOA 4 for example...hdd owners will get a version that was developed as if the HDD IS standard, no limitations. I said its good for me, nothing else. The big name games I want will all take after DOA 4, they will be made as if the hdd was standard. all the other games I get are icing on the cake and I couldnt care less how the hdd is used with those.
I also said that wont hold true for the majority of games, so we are going in circles here.
so MS is evil for offering the buyer a choice. But Sony pulls the plug on it and they get a pat on the back, for what?
:blink:
this hdd shit really needs to die.
the sku's, the pricing, its all genious. GENIOUS! :beer:
am I spelling that correctly? :lol:
Post by: miggidy on September 26, 2005, 11:28:00 PM
Sure, it would've been nice to include it in every box. But by no means will this hamper gameplay.
Very few devs even bothered with the current Xbox's hdd.
And those who did, are planning on supporting it again with their new X360 projects. Think about that for a while....
So far we've seen a couple of devs complain about it, one turned out to be nothing more than a cry baby. Mad cuz his poor Steam engine depends on a HDD. And it's only a matter of time these Saint's Row devs turn out to be cry babies as well.
Using this dev's logic, if Saint's Row were to go multi-platform (which probably will) then it means that only the Xbox 360 version would get flying missions while the poor PS3 would be left out :rolleyes:
Point is the devs who want to take advantage of the hard drive, will.
The one's who don't, won't.
And the ones who say they would have if the HDD was standard are lazy and are only using this as an excuse for their failures.
Much like a slacker always blames everyone else for his failures :lol:
This post has been edited by miggidy: Sep 27 2005, 06:34 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 26, 2005, 11:48:00 PM
the CoD 2 demo is done DLing..off to install!
Post by: miggidy on September 27, 2005, 01:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 27 2005, 07:59 AM)
the CoD 2 demo is done DLing..off to install!
Damn it! I better download it myself!
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 12:59:00 AM
Only thing that sucks is I cant go above Normal for detail, it doesnt even offer it to me due ot my older card.
it runs super smooth though, I posted pics in the other thread.
see you fuggers on Live with this!!
BOOM!!!
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 27, 2005, 01:10:00 AM
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I didnt say the good devs will be the only ones that are "able to" use the hdd. I said the good devs will max their games out as if the hdd IS standard, thats a huge fuggin difference.
And neither did I. I said that good devs will be able to take full advantage of the hdd, when present. Which is exactly what you said. Am i missing something? What the fug are you talking about?
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so MS is evil for offering the buyer a choice. But Sony pulls the plug on it and they get a pat on the back, for what?
What the flip are you talking about? I sure the shit am not on Sony's side here. And besides, when did Sony ever lead people to believe there were going to support an hdd standard? While it's great that MS is even offering an hdd in one of its sku's, it sucks that they didn't make it standard; something i was expecting. I never expected the other two companies to even offer an hdd.
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the sku's, the pricing, its all genious. GENIOUS!
Good hell, i'm an xbox fan as much as the next hardcore xbox owner, but you're making me throw up; you don't believe all the MS pr bullshit, do you?
How on earth is two sku's genius, from a tech standpoint, and not financial? From a tech view, one sku with a standard hdd would have been better.
My point still stands, that one sku with an hdd would have been better from a dev point of view, and for us. How? As i've stated before, more time, money, and resources will be required to make a game run good off DVD, and as well take full advantage of the hdd when present. This will cause games to take longer to develop then if there was one sku with hdd standard, or make the game be rushed. And other devs will not want to take the extra time/resources to do this. Both case scenarios will affect the end user, that being us.
I'm surprised that you do not see the logic in this.
Take it easy on people who do not smell roses on everything MS has to say.
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 02:12:00 AM
its genious because MS runs a fuggin business, they arent out to wipe our tears when we dont like something they do.
Them actually MAKING a profit on hdd's and memory cards for the 1st 6 months its on the market does many things, the biggest being allowing them to drop the price on Both skus when the ps3 hits.
The more $$ they make, the more stable the entire gaming side of things will be for them, and the more we will benefit in the long run.
they lost $$ due to the xbox architecture. Lets say they profit billions upon billions by taking this route of 2 skus, that leaves the door wide open for a cheaper xbox 720, one with a huge ass standard hdd, thats just an example.
all anyone heard in the beginning was that the hdd in the ps3 was going to be 80gigs or whatever, and thats not even the point. the point is atleast MS has a fuggin plan and maybe after time passes, all the whiners will see how it was genious!
fuggin A
less than 20% of all xbox games used the hdd for anything other than game saves.
having or not having a hdd will not be a hinderance in the long run, and for those devs that bitch and moan, stfu. They have the ability to overcome any hurdles, if they chose not to, oh well. fuggin lazy wastes of skin.
the best devs will not allow the skus to keep them from giving us the best experience possible, thats ALL I care about. The very few high profile ones Im looking forward too will be developed as if it was standard.
Genious I say! Genious!!
:lol:
Im a PR man!!
w000h000000000!
Back to CoD 2!!!
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 02:08:00 AM
DOAx 2
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1UP: Will Pool Hopping be back?
TI: Yeah. There's no reason to cut it out.
TI: Yeah. There's no reason to cut it out.
QUOTE
1UP: Dead or Alive Ultimate used the DOAXBV graphics-engine. Will DOAX2 use the DOA4 engine this time around?
TI: The engine's going to be refined so that it's better at showing the body, the skin on the body. And yes, it will use the DOA4 engine, of course. But when it comes time for us to work on DOAX2, obviously we'll be more familiar with the Xbox 360 hardware, so it'll be better looking.
TI: The engine's going to be refined so that it's better at showing the body, the skin on the body. And yes, it will use the DOA4 engine, of course. But when it comes time for us to work on DOAX2, obviously we'll be more familiar with the Xbox 360 hardware, so it'll be better looking.
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Dead or Alive: Code Cronus
1UP: Dead or Alive: Code Cronus. Can you please explain what the hell this game is?
TI: I officially sent MS details about what's known as Code Cronus. MS knows about it. [Laughs] It's a story about Kasumi and Ayane and how they grow up to be these great female ninjas.
1UP: So it's not going to be like Dead or Alive Kids, where they're five years-old, is it?
TI: No, it's actually is close to what you just said. [Laughs]
1UP: And you sent in this proposal to MS. Did the envelope say "You should be sitting down to read this?"
TI: Yeah, they were shocked when they read it. They were surprised.
1UP: Dead or Alive: Code Cronus. Can you please explain what the hell this game is?
TI: I officially sent MS details about what's known as Code Cronus. MS knows about it. [Laughs] It's a story about Kasumi and Ayane and how they grow up to be these great female ninjas.
1UP: So it's not going to be like Dead or Alive Kids, where they're five years-old, is it?
TI: No, it's actually is close to what you just said. [Laughs]
1UP: And you sent in this proposal to MS. Did the envelope say "You should be sitting down to read this?"
TI: Yeah, they were shocked when they read it. They were surprised.
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 27, 2005, 02:30:00 AM
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the best devs will not allow the skus to keep them from giving us the best experience possible, thats ALL I care about.
I hope your predictions turn out true. But the pessimist in me believes otherwise.
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BACK TO WHAT THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT..NOT SOME FUGGIN HDD CRYING..
I would not have even brought it up if you had not; i don't make a point to share my views on the hdd issue, unless talked about first.
I'm done with the pissing match...
Cannot wait for oblivion, and ninja gaiden 2.
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 02:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 27 2005, 04:41 AM)
I hope your predictions turn out true. But the pessimist in me believes otherwise.
I would not have even brought it up if you had not; i don't make a point to share my views on the hdd issue, unless talked about first.
I'm done with the pissing match... :lol:
Cannot wait for oblivion, and ninja gaiden 2. :beer:
I would not have even brought it up if you had not; i don't make a point to share my views on the hdd issue, unless talked about first.
I'm done with the pissing match... :lol:
Cannot wait for oblivion, and ninja gaiden 2. :beer:
I quoted Itagaki from the article, what am I supposed to do? not prove that myself and others were right all along? the good devs will use it af it was standard. He confirmed it today.
Just played the CoD 2 demo for the 4th time, lol
great stuff.
Im not even going to bed, eff it. Ive got 6 trees to cut down and cut up in 3 hours so trying to sleep now would be futile :lol:
I didnt find the sniper rifle :(
Oops off topic.
team NInja!! :beer:
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 27, 2005, 03:55:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 27 2005, 11:00 AM)
I quoted Itagaki from the article, what am I supposed to do? not prove that myself and others were right all along? the good devs will use it af it was standard. He confirmed it today.
You still brought up the whole hdd topic again, regardless if you quoted something. And you only focus on what you want to on the hdd topic.
For example:
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when I first heard that, I was surprised, I was kind of shocked, it impacted me at the time. But the point is that what everyone's feeling right now, to us that happened months ago. I've already gotten through that, I've already digested it and got past it, so that's why I really can't get too worked up over it right now.
Itagaki also confirmed what i am saying, he would rather have an hdd standard (he was/is not happy about it), and previously got "worked up over it". Not having it as such was/is an issue.
Damnit, deftech! My bladder is running empty! :lol:
Post by: KAGE360 on September 27, 2005, 07:44:00 AM
i could understand the concern if no devs were talking about downloadable content, or using the HD at all (knowing that 80% of the 360 sold will have HDs is enough reason for any dev to use it). even bethesda said they were planning on having DL content for oblivion as well as many many other devs. if not having an HD hinders the game then the devs designed the engine or code wrong that is it.
again hopefully this talk will calm down when people realize that none of the ps3s will have a HD but no one will talk about its performance being hindered because of it.
anyways yeah team ninja rules!!! yyyeeeeeaaaaahhhhhh!!! :beer:
:P
Post by: Shinamano on September 27, 2005, 07:43:00 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 27, 2005, 08:41:00 AM
i would love to shove it in the face of all the ps3 zombies who had their hopes of a ninja gaiden game on their grill. :P when those rumors started they spread like wild fire.
Post by: Shinamano on September 27, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
I can't wait to see hat he does with all of these games...anychance that Project Progressive is the new Rygar? The one on PS2 kicked ass (God of War stole much from that one)...
Post by: miggidy on September 27, 2005, 12:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Sep 27 2005, 03:54 PM)
Was it just me or did Itagaki just confirm Ninja Gaiden 2 for the 360? :P
I posted about this a few days ago.
Not only is Ninja Gaiden 2 already in developement for the Xbox 360,
there are a few other titles as well.
Pick up the Xbox launch guide for the full scoop.
Oh yeah, there's a new Duke Nukem in developement :)
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 12:55:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 27 2005, 02:51 PM)
Oh yeah, there's a new Duke Nukem in developement :)
LOL
I dont know wether to laugh or cry at that statement.
what do you mean New?
New as in the 7 year old Duke 4ever that isnt out? or something thats got a different name? :lol:
thats laughable, not laughing at you, just the whole Duke thing, its nothing but a joke to me, has been for years. :rotfl:
Post by: miggidy on September 27, 2005, 12:56:00 PM
Ahhh the irony :P
Post by: Deftech on September 27, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 27 2005, 03:00 PM)
I understand, and yes the name is Duke Nuken Forever.
Ahhh the irony :P
Ahhh the irony :P
hahaha
yeah New game alright.
hahaaahah this is classic
"Duke NUkem Forever! Started in 1998, started from scratch 3 times, shown at several E3's only to vanish for good! On store shelves using unreal Engine 7. 4ever Day: Coming in 2021!"
:lol:
Post by: KAGE360 on September 28, 2005, 08:41:00 AM
also he seems to be saying the same thing from the start. he talks about how the firmware and dev. software matters as much as hardware and that is why he thinks the 360 is the most powerful next gen console.
:beer:
Post by: Deftech on September 28, 2005, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 29, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
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we've gone inside the mind of Tomonobu Itagaki and asked him to tell us what games he rates that don't bear the Team NINJA brand. Some of his choices are less than obvious (at least in his favorites), while others are more predictable.
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Tekken - PlayStation/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1995
Hate.
Tekken 2 - PlayStation/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1996
Hate.
Tekken 3 - PlayStation/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1998
Hate.
Tekken 4 - PlayStation 2/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 2002
Hate.
Tekken 5 - PlayStation 2/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 2005
I no longer can figure out what the hell they're trying to do with the numbering, and I don't know which one is which. I don't know what they're trying to do with all of these spin-offs, so this includes Nina: Death by Degrees as well. I don't think it even needs saying, but people should stay away from Tekken. Nothing left to say. I just don't want them to disappoint me any more. It's so annoying. Please don't annoy me any more.
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1995
Hate.
Tekken 2 - PlayStation/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1996
Hate.
Tekken 3 - PlayStation/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 1998
Hate.
Tekken 4 - PlayStation 2/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 2002
Hate.
Tekken 5 - PlayStation 2/Arcade
Publisher: Namco Developer: Namco Release Date: 2005
I no longer can figure out what the hell they're trying to do with the numbering, and I don't know which one is which. I don't know what they're trying to do with all of these spin-offs, so this includes Nina: Death by Degrees as well. I don't think it even needs saying, but people should stay away from Tekken. Nothing left to say. I just don't want them to disappoint me any more. It's so annoying. Please don't annoy me any more.
amen to that itagaki
Post by: Deftech on September 29, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
Whet Just IM'd me and reminded me to check 1up...I never laughed so hard
HATE
HATE
HATE
That man rocks.
Kage and I would walk past arcades and see the Tekken cabinets and just laugh. what a pile :lol:
and then make our way over to VF 2 and 3 cabinets and commence the beatings.
Hate
Hate
hate
HAHAHAHAHA
Post by: Shinamano on September 29, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 29, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Sep 29 2005, 12:32 PM)
Gotta love the Tekken hate, but waht does he mean about the numbering?
I think he was referring to the side streets the series takes. Itagaki just makes a seperate game I guess (ie. Ninja Gaiden instead of "DOA: Gaiden"?). Was Tekken 3 called Tekken Tag Tournament or was that a seperate game too? Obviously I can't handle anything beyond basic number progression either. Haha. Then again, DOA: Code Cronus is coming... unless they change the name. God (and Itagaki) only knows.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 29, 2005, 11:41:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Sep 29 2005, 11:32 AM)
Gotta love the Tekken hate, but waht does he mean about the numbering?
i think what he means is that it doesnt matter which tekken he sees (1,2,3,4, or 5) he doesnt see a difference, they are all rehashed shit.
is he trying to tell namco not to annoy him (and the world) with the tekken series anymore? if so thats great, i could go on without another tekken game to make my eyes want to bleed again.
Post by: Deftech on September 30, 2005, 09:59:00 AM
is it already Friday?!?!
the xbox lighter at the end of the vid is fitting, as is Ayane and Ryu at the end
Post by: ikecomp on September 30, 2005, 10:51:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 30, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 30, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 30, 2005, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 30, 2005, 11:50:00 AM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 30 2005, 01:52 PM)
am i the only one who cant click on fridays aricle? is it not up yet?
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 30, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
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i can click on any other day other then friday, looks like ill have to wait till i get out of work before i can read it. that sucks its been the highlight of my days at work all week
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: ikecomp on September 30, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 30, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: ikecomp on September 30, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 30 2005, 01:05 PM)
that sucks its been the highlight of my days at work all week
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on September 30, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
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Is that video choppy or is that just my work pc?
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: ikecomp on September 30, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
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Its definetly your work pc. Me work laptop plays it flawlessly. Although a while ago I had to install some codecs that the IT guys gave me for me to play certain videos properly. Just try it on ur home pc.
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 01, 2005, 08:59:00 AM
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I tink I need to change my pants...I just watched this video...the NBA 2K6 video (fuck EA for stealing the NFL) and the new PGR video...if anyone had any doubt about the 360 they worrys are over...and anyone who still complains is just a fucking fanboy...
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Deftech on October 01, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 05:32:00 AM
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hahahaha
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 06:17:00 AM
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Anyhow I watched the video and I have to say the new obstacle component in the game is incredible...attacking from jumps, countering them...hitting the ground but not lying flat instead in a ready mode...only to attack from the ground! Then have that countered...
This game looks like they took some ideas from Powerstone and that is all good to me.
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 08:29:00 AM
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http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGuLPPGuNL10030220
If its the Arbiter, I will cry, it will remind me of a Tekken with those faggoty ass characters.
the arbiter already ruined one game for me, please dont let it do so to another :(
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: LowProfileWurm on October 03, 2005, 09:58:00 AM
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My money is on Cortana because Itagaki doesn't strike me as the type to include more men in the game. Who's left after MC, and the Arbiter? Captain Keyes? The Commander? Don't think so...
And since I think it's Cortana, think of what kinda awesome translucent texturing she'll have. She's digital code so I guess she won't have on a costume or bikini or anything. Hmmm... :D
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
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Plus Cortana would look 10X better in a DOA game then she ever would in a Halo game...I could only hope that they have the code 'flowing' through her...if this happens then DOA4 just passed PDZ as my number 1 title...
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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A few of the DOA girls have that move...and you can't forget about Cammy...
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: KAGE360 on October 03, 2005, 02:36:00 PM
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:rotfl:
im not coming over your house when you play that mode :P
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Moleman on October 03, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
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Yeah, Deftech wants to hack into Cortana's pants, but he doesn't know the encryption key and there's no modchips to be found. What will our fanboy do? Stay tuned for more.
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
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bahahahahaha
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
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Title: Week Long Itagaki/team Ninja Party!
Post by: Moleman on October 03, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
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Well, if all else fails, he can at least do a re-skin.
Post by: Shinamano on September 30, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: ikecomp on September 30, 2005, 02:01:00 PM
Its definetly your work pc. Me work laptop plays it flawlessly. Although a while ago I had to install some codecs that the IT guys gave me for me to play certain videos properly. Just try it on ur home pc.
Post by: Shinamano on October 01, 2005, 08:59:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on October 01, 2005, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 05:32:00 AM
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 06:17:00 AM
Anyhow I watched the video and I have to say the new obstacle component in the game is incredible...attacking from jumps, countering them...hitting the ground but not lying flat instead in a ready mode...only to attack from the ground! Then have that countered...
This game looks like they took some ideas from Powerstone and that is all good to me.
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 08:29:00 AM
If its the Arbiter, I will cry, it will remind me of a Tekken with those faggoty ass characters.
the arbiter already ruined one game for me, please dont let it do so to another :(
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: LowProfileWurm on October 03, 2005, 09:58:00 AM
And since I think it's Cortana, think of what kinda awesome translucent texturing she'll have. She's digital code so I guess she won't have on a costume or bikini or anything. Hmmm... :D
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 11:24:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on October 03, 2005, 02:36:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 3 2005, 04:17 PM)
I hope thay have a "Cortana sits on player 1's face" mode.
those are always pleasant, and a mode I hope is put into DOA X 2 :)
those are always pleasant, and a mode I hope is put into DOA X 2 :)
:rotfl:
im not coming over your house when you play that mode :P
Post by: Moleman on October 03, 2005, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on October 03, 2005, 03:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Moleman @ Oct 3 2005, 04:52 PM)
Yeah, Deftech wants to hack into Cortana's pants, but he doesn't know the encryption key and there's no modchips to be found. What will our fanboy do? Stay tuned for more.
bahahahahaha
Post by: Shinamano on October 03, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
Post by: Moleman on October 03, 2005, 06:31:00 PM