Post by: Xbox-Scene on February 27, 2008, 09:28:00 PM
360 vs PS3: 4 Recent Multi-platform Examined Posted by XanTium | February 27 22:52 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: itsjustme on February 27, 2008, 10:10:00 PM
Post by: ghostface0 on February 27, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
Give me a break. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleeping.gif)
I have to wonder if the "faster getting into online games" make up for the time it takes to download the patches required for the PS3 version.
This post has been edited by ghostface0: Feb 28 2008, 06:18 AM
Post by: Slag Bag on February 27, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
QUOTE(itsjustme @ Feb 27 2008, 09:10 PM) 
MS better hope sony doesnt get its online act together or there will not be much reason for picking up a 360 over ps3.
That sounds just like another quote that gets said like truth. " Multiplatform games are better on the Xbox 360". PS3 online works fine, its free, and offers most everything the 360 does except a fee.
Post by: WildMonkeys on February 27, 2008, 10:20:00 PM
Post by: ghostface0 on February 27, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Slag Bag @ Feb 28 2008, 06:19 AM) 
PS3 online works fine, its free, and offers most everything the 360 does except a fee.
Aside from the annual fee,
XBL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PSN
Post by: NoFace on February 27, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: PerfectGun on February 27, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
Multiplatform games on the 360 are better period. I own both systems and I am not going to be suckered into purchasing another crappy port because some PS3 fanboy tells me over and over that the game is better on the PS3. Been there, done that and it's a total sham.
I love the way they cherry picked the titles as well. I won't even start to paste the grip of articles that I have here saying the complete opposite of what these people are saying.
This post has been edited by PerfectGun: Feb 28 2008, 06:27 AM
Post by: rezonat0r on February 27, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE(PerfectGun @ Feb 28 2008, 05:25 AM)
Multiplatform games on the 360
Fixed that for ya.
Post by: ghostface0 on February 27, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
Lol @ Gamepro, and even bigger lol @ ps3 fans everywhere jumping on this "article".
This post has been edited by ghostface0: Feb 28 2008, 06:38 AM
Post by: gAm3 Fr3aQu3 on February 27, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
QUOTE(PerfectGun @ Feb 27 2008, 10:25 PM)
Completely subjective article and don't agree at all. PS3 COD4 was a mess and you couldn't even get into a match until it was patched months later. The controller blows but it does have a better D-Pad.
Multiplatform games on the 360 are better period. I own both systems and I am not going to be suckered into purchasing another crappy port because some PS3 fanboy tells me over and over that the game is better on the PS3. Been there, done that and it's a total sham.
I love the way they cherry picked the titles as well. I won't even start to paste the grip of articles that I have here saying the complete opposite of what these people are saying.
Everything is subjective when it comes to opinions, much like your post.
Post by: jdanefellows on February 27, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on February 27, 2008, 11:39:00 PM
guess they say that because nobody would buy it for its exclusives.
This post has been edited by ILLusions0fGrander: Feb 28 2008, 07:41 AM
Post by: iceman72 on February 27, 2008, 11:41:00 PM
(wow that line is gonna show my age something terrible.) Then to top it off companies like EA will never make a game better on the 360. They are so far up Sonies ass it's not funny. They make bad multiplatform games on purpose. They pick their favorite bitch then the other consoles get sloppy seconds. It's been this way for years. This ain't nothing new.
Post by: Archalien on February 28, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
I too own all 3 systems, PSN better than LIVE (cept for price), holy shit what crack was that guy smoking. LIVE and its in game tie in to GUIDE- friends list, private chat, text msg destroy PS3 version its not even close!!!
Um finding and getting into a game..... um yeah, check the install base for COD4 on each platform or just look at the # of players online, 360 usually has a 4:1 advantage over PS3 for this game. Not to mention PS3 game join drops that are near nonexistant on 360 in my exp.
Another thing not mentioned, Mics!!!!!!
For the cheese that is the 360 wired mic, it destroys the PS3 BT implmentation!!!! Its uniformity of quality and install base shines here.
On ps3 usually only 1/2 - 1/4 peeps have mic's whereas on 360 its nearly always 80-100% of players mic'd.... not to mention everyone that is actually sporting a mic on PS3 have different ones and it shows with quality of voice and constantly having people get their mics dropped.
Dont get me wrong, COD4 on PS3 is imo prolly the best game oout for ps3 top to bottom, its not COD4's fault the PS3 hardware and PSN are a few laps down compared to 360 and LIVE.
There may come a time when PS3 does surpass the 360, but with COD4 being the flagship game for each system right now(look at the sales comparred to other titles) 360 pwned this round.
Post by: faceless on February 28, 2008, 01:24:00 AM
QUOTE(ghostface0 @ Feb 28 2008, 01:36 AM)
**** CALL OF DUTY 4 on ps3 DOES NOT HAVE DEDICATED SERVERS. ****
Lol @ Gamepro, and even bigger lol @ ps3 fans everywhere jumping on this "article".
exactly.
neither does burnout.
how reliable can the rest of the article be when they make two huge mistakes like that?
Post by: jamiem1987 on February 28, 2008, 03:34:00 AM
Post by: Whyamiy on February 28, 2008, 03:53:00 AM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Feb 28 2008, 06:39 AM)
gamepro. i haven't heard that name in a while, guess they got a nice check to tell us we would be better off picking up a ps3 for mutli platform titles.
guess they say that because nobody would buy it for its exclusives.
Sorry, but I disagree with that. As a proud owner of both systems, I made my decision to buy a PS3 EXACTLY for this rerason. PS3 exclusives so far have been fantastic in my view - Drakes Fortune, Ratchet & Clank, Motor Storm - and the ones yet to come - Gran Turismo 5, Tekken 6, Metal Gear 4, God Of War III, Time Crisis 4...all are and will be brilliant games. Don't get me wrong, Im not a fanboy for either console - I own both cos I like both, each for different reasons, I got the 360 mainly for PGR3 and Kameo, and then Gears Of war, Forza 2 etc...
As far as multi-format games go, I almost always buy the 360 version simply because I prefer the controller, but if a 360 style controller is ever released for the PS3, that may change...
Also, as for the online part- PS3's online service is fantastic considering its free, I do prefer Xbox Live at the moment, but you need to remember 360 is a year older than PS3, so it has a lot of catcing up to do still....with Gears 2 on its way though, I think my ps3 will be gathering dust at christmas for a while 
Post by: jamiem1987 on February 28, 2008, 04:25:00 AM
QUOTE(Whyamiy @ Feb 28 2008, 11:29 AM)
Sorry, but I disagree with that. As a proud owner of both systems, I made my decision to buy a PS3 EXACTLY for this rerason. PS3 exclusives so far have been fantastic in my view - Drakes Fortune, Ratchet & Clank, Motor Storm - and the ones yet to come - Gran Turismo 5, Tekken 6, Metal Gear 4, God Of War III, Time Crisis 4...all are and will be brilliant games. Don't get me wrong, Im not a fanboy for either console - I own both cos I like both, each for different reasons, I got the 360 mainly for PGR3 and Kameo, and then Gears Of war, Forza 2 etc...
As far as multi-format games go, I almost always buy the 360 version simply because I prefer the controller, but if a 360 style controller is ever released for the PS3, that may change...
Also, as for the online part- PS3's online service is fantastic considering its free, I do prefer Xbox Live at the moment, but you need to remember 360 is a year older than PS3, so it has a lot of catcing up to do still....with Gears 2 on its way though, I think my ps3 will be gathering dust at christmas for a while my ps3 lasted me a month andim bored with it, ratchet and klank is a stupid game imo and as for gran turismo 5 to be honest im bored of waiting, id rather get couple of hundred quid than have it sat doing nothing losing value, maybe 1 day you could get an xbox controller for the ps3 but that really defeats the object, the whole ps3 systems seems to be very messy and having to listen to the in game music just finished it off for me! the xbox OS is much much better than anything ps3 will ever have to offer, everything jsut makes sense and is where it should be, im not an xbox fanboy as i have them both, i just think the ps3 is seriously over rated for all the wrong reasons
Post by: bucketmonster on February 28, 2008, 05:34:00 AM
But in the real world, I feel my 360 is out preforming my ps3 ATM.
I work in the rental industry, so have access to all games and IMO the xbox wins most of the time and most of the cross platform games I've purchased are xbox, mainly because of xbox live.
I do feel that developers are still learning the PS3, and at some point it will over take the xbox graphically.
But as long as the gameplay stays the same on both, I think M$ will stay in the lead, graphics aren't everything.
Post by: Killerchronic on February 28, 2008, 05:48:00 AM
Post by: jamiem1987 on February 28, 2008, 06:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Killerchronic @ Feb 28 2008, 01:24 PM)
interesting article, does seem slightly biased though, controller preference really doesn't seem like a valid arguement to me, it's just whatever your used to is obviously gonna be better.
course the controller point is a valid argument, its the key component to how we play games! its built better and fits perfectly, the ps3 one though is cheaply built and slips out of my hands whenever i touch it! i cannot for the life of me get used to the ps3s controller.
Post by: djtweech on February 28, 2008, 06:44:00 AM
10 million users vs 3 million users
and who cares if it is free. $50 is not a large fee. A lot of people have no problem with this cost.
Post by: 21cwSpanky on February 28, 2008, 06:49:00 AM
QUOTE(ghostface0 @ Feb 28 2008, 06:36 AM)
**** CALL OF DUTY 4 on ps3 DOES NOT HAVE DEDICATED SERVERS. ****
Lol @ Gamepro, and even bigger lol @ ps3 fans everywhere jumping on this "article".
Hate to break it to you but only the PC version has dedicated servers.
Post by: tummybanana on February 28, 2008, 06:57:00 AM
the $ony fans are trying to talk up the console, coz with the emphasis on the ps3 playing blu/sue/poo/blur ray movies, they forgot it plays games aswell
Post by: itchy on February 28, 2008, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: BenJeremy on February 28, 2008, 07:27:00 AM
QUOTE(djtweech @ Feb 28 2008, 09:20 AM)
all i have to say is:
10 million users vs 3 million users
and who cares if it is free. $50 is not a large fee. A lot of people have no problem with this cost.
...and this is exactly why it's quicker to get an online match. Fewer players, shorter matchmaking times. Given the problems that have snakebit PS3 COD4 users, I'm surprised many people at all are playing on their servers.
Post by: BasicAir on February 28, 2008, 07:31:00 AM
"Superior online integration on the PS3."
LMAO
LOL
ROFLCOPTER
LOLLERSKATES
HAHAHAHAHHA
OMFG THAT IS SOOOO FUNNY. ALL-TIME BEST QUOTE FOR THE MOST COMPLETELY BS FANBOYISH LIE EVER!
Post by: 0794 on February 28, 2008, 07:41:00 AM
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Assassin's Creed
Graphics: At first glance, you might not see anything that separates the two versions of Assassin's Creed visually. Both exude an impressive amount of detail in their environments and characters, along with gorgeous animations. Switching between the two on the same display, however, shows noticeably differences in the lighting and slight variations in framerate. Xbox 360 fares well under Altair's blade, boasting better lighting and a smoother performance. This isn't to say the game's a stuttering mess on PlayStation 3; on the contrary, it still looks fantastic. But you'll notice minor slowdown when moving the camera in crowded areas and the lighting isn't nearly as appealing. Overall, the Xbox 360 version just looks better.
Call of Duty 4
Graphics: You don't need night-vision or infrared goggles to see how gorgeous Call of Duty 4 runs on both systems. Infinity Ward clearly wanted both PS3 and Xbox 360 owners to have identical visual experiences. As such, neither version experiences framerate hiccups, and there's no substantive differences in visual quality. Your terrorist killing experience looks just as good on PlayStation 3 as it does on Xbox 360. Enjoy.
Devil May Cry 4
Graphics: You'll be hard-pressed to find any significant advantage to the presentation in either the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 versions of Devil May Cry 4. Even after putting on our Coke-bottle glasses we couldn't find any substantive differences in the two games. This is definitely a surprise, mainly because the game was originally a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we expected it to out-class its Xbox 360 sibling. Instead, they're identical.
Burnout Paradise
Graphics: As with the controls, you'll be hard-pressed to denote any significant graphical distinctions between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of Burnout Paradise. EA Criterion has done a bang up job keeping the two games even visually. Both consoles squeeze out a fantastic 60 frames-per-second and the detailing on vehicles, buildings, and environment in general is superb.
Post by: DAvidl919 on February 28, 2008, 08:01:00 AM
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Post by: eduardor2k on February 28, 2008, 08:13:00 AM
If you ask me my opinion on this article i would say that both platforms are even.
Post by: Merkaba on February 28, 2008, 08:29:00 AM
Post by: iLLNESS on February 28, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
ahhhahaahahahahahhahhahahahhaahahhahaahahhahahahahahahahaha
sony REALLY is tossing around some money
i really wonder how much microsoft would be handing it to sony if they didnt have rrod failures. that publicity had to have hurt, and its still taken sony this long to find a critic to say some shit like this
Post by: 0794 on February 28, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
QUOTE(bucketmonster @ Feb 28 2008, 10:48 AM)
Don't think so mate, Gameplay is most important, no-one wants to keep playing the same old shit with better graphics.
and nobody can enjoy gameplay at all with crappy images on the screen...
so, yes, both are equally important...
still doesn't take away the crap from this biased "review"
Post by: Chancer on February 28, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(jamiem1987 @ Feb 28 2008, 01:50 PM)
course the controller point is a valid argument, its the key component to how we play games! its built better and fits perfectly, the ps3 one though is cheaply built and slips out of my hands whenever i touch it! i cannot for the life of me get used to the ps3s controller.
Try pulling the top right shoulder button whilst using one of the bottom buttons with your thumb. Difficult if you have long hands.
Controllers depends on your hands and what you have always used.
There are components of both that I like. My main gripe against the 360 controller is the material it is made from. It becomes so sweaty and slippery quickly.
jamiem1987 you are so biased you make the article look not so bad.
360 has more quality games.
Multi plat games some look worse some look near identical on the PS3. A few look better on the PS3 but we are not talking huge amounts for games that look better on either.
As for outstanding originals. Subjective. Depends on what game style you like etc. Everyone is different. I have played GOW a lot online and i like it but if you asked me I prefer Uncharted. Different game altogether in style etc but it is my personal type of game. Doesn't make it better than GOW, just means I like it more.
Live is better on the 360 by a mile but PSN multiplayer is very good.
Game reviews are always going to be biased and this one is no different. It is wrong in many ways.
It gets the hostile reception here because of the 360 fans. If this was biased the opposite way those same people would be telling us how correct and true it was.
All of it personal opinion and personal experience. you can't choose what is best for someone else.
QUOTE(bucketmonster @ Feb 28 2008, 04:48 PM)
Don't think so mate, Gameplay is most important, no-one wants to keep playing the same old shit with better graphics.
You don't get an opinion here bucky007.
on your bike again
Post by: Ranger72 on February 28, 2008, 09:35:00 AM
All those naive enough to think the 360 is still going to win this round of console wars raise your hands and make a note of it and lets see how you feel this time next year.
Post by: tharien on February 28, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
If there was ever a gripe to have with an unfair magazine, it would be GameInformer. It surprises me the amount of sway they have when one system or title is selling less then desired. I truly hope everyone here knows that magazine is owned in whole by Gamestop and its parent company.
Post by: jwin767 on February 28, 2008, 09:53:00 AM
It Seems sony now have some of that Blu-Ray
Post by: nightwulf28 on February 28, 2008, 10:15:00 AM
Again, I love both systems for different reasons. I own the Trifecta: Wii, 360 and ps3 and love them all. For High Def movies the PS3 hands down. For games usually 360 and wii. If a good ps3 game comes out then thats just a bonus to me as I bought it as a Blu Ray player first, game machine second. I am sure otheres will agree with me. This was just my two cents on an unrelated subject. Personally each system has its strengths and weaknesses. Can't we all just get along?
Post by: Chancer on February 28, 2008, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE
Personally each system has its strengths and weaknesses. Can't we all just get along?
I totally agree.
It seems we are all sometimes too protective of something we own. We don't like to admit it is not the greatest thing out.
That's why I bought them all
Post by: nightwulf28 on February 28, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Feb 28 2008, 12:08 PM)
I totally agree.
It seems we are all sometimes too protective of something we own. We don't like to admit it is not the greatest thing out.
That's why I bought them all
Here, here. Then we have the best of everything and no need to complain
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on February 28, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
EDIT:
By the way, I don't like the PS3 controller either. Just throwing that out there.
Post by: nightkrawler on February 28, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
Post by: nightwulf28 on February 28, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(nightkrawler @ Feb 28 2008, 12:36 PM)
360 pretty much sucks ass,30% failure rate everyone I know has had there 360 fuck up on them ps3 is truly next gen that's why everyone is going bluray,I own both and would have been sold the xbox but its modded so i'll keep it around as a dust collector.
It is stupid posts like yours that are not needed. Why start a flame war? in an xbox forum of all places...tisk tisk.
Post by: Merkaba on February 28, 2008, 11:38:00 AM
QUOTE(nightkrawler @ Feb 28 2008, 07:36 PM)
360 pretty much sucks ass,30% failure rate everyone I know has had there 360 fuck up on them ps3 is truly next gen that's why everyone is going bluray,I own both and would have been sold the xbox but its modded so i'll keep it around as a dust collector.
another angry ps3 owner who is playing a sorry excuse called dmc 4 praying for ninja gaiden II.
Post by: HackMy360 on February 28, 2008, 12:03:00 PM
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Post by: feflicker on February 28, 2008, 01:39:00 PM
Post by: gAm3 Fr3aQu3 on February 28, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Feb 28 2008, 09:58 AM)
Try pulling the top right shoulder button whilst using one of the bottom buttons with your thumb. Difficult if you have long hands.
Controllers depends on your hands and what you have always used.
There are components of both that I like. My main gripe against the 360 controller is the material it is made from. It becomes so sweaty and slippery quickly.
jamiem1987 you are so biased you make the article look not so bad.
360 has more quality games.
Multi plat games some look worse some look near identical on the PS3. A few look better on the PS3 but we are not talking huge amounts for games that look better on either.
As for outstanding originals. Subjective. Depends on what game style you like etc. Everyone is different. I have played GOW a lot online and i like it but if you asked me I prefer Uncharted. Different game altogether in style etc but it is my personal type of game. Doesn't make it better than GOW, just means I like it more.
Live is better on the 360 by a mile but PSN multiplayer is very good.
Game reviews are always going to be biased and this one is no different. It is wrong in many ways.
It gets the hostile reception here because of the 360 fans. If this was biased the opposite way those same people would be telling us how correct and true it was.
All of it personal opinion and personal experience. you can't choose what is best for someone else.
You don't get an opinion here bucky007.
on your bike again
This is, by far, the best post I have read in this thread. Great wording without bias, and without all those "xxx fanboy this, xxx fanboy that" bullshit.
I totally agree with what you said. I have both the 360 and PS3, and I like them for different reasons (that's why I have both, duh).
Post by: Whyamiy on February 28, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
QUOTE(gAm3 Fr3aQu3 @ Feb 28 2008, 09:41 PM)
This is, by far, the best post I have read in this thread. Great wording without bias, and without all those "xxx fanboy this, xxx fanboy that" bullshit.
I totally agree with what you said. I have both the 360 and PS3, and I like them for different reasons (that's why I have both, duh).
Here here, I agree too with everything Chancer says, and tried to get the same points across myself earlier in the thread but couldn't say it as well as he did
way to go! 
Post by: readmore on February 28, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
Post by: Bandit5317 on February 28, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: ghostface0 on February 28, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
QUOTE(readmore @ Feb 28 2008, 11:04 PM)
Sounds like Sony is trying to sway people into thinking the PS3 is on par (or better??) then the 360 in multiplatform before GTA 4 comes out. After reading a "hands-on" of the game it appears we have yet ANOTHER 360 game looking better then it's PS3 brother.
Where can I find this hands-on?
Post by: readmore on February 28, 2008, 02:43:00 PM
QUOTE(ghostface0 @ Feb 28 2008, 11:16 PM)
Where can I find this hands-on?
http://xbox360.ign.c...5/855555p1.html
Post by: Chancer on February 28, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Feb 28 2008, 08:15 PM)
by the way I also bought fifa 08 I would of loved to take you on Chancer
Add me to your friends list mate. I will give you a game on the 360 if you get it. I have it on both. Yes I know I am sad
Post by: HackMy360 on February 28, 2008, 03:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Feb 28 2008, 02:31 PM)
Add me to your friends list mate. I will give you a game on the 360 if you get it. I have it on both. Yes I know I am sad
lol well than that makes 2 of us as I also have it on the 360 and when I bought the ps3 I also bought fifa 08 and have to admit I like it better but only because it seems that it plays a little faster like the ps2 version although I love the 360 version of it too. I hope to see you online soon
Post by: Mr Invader on February 28, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
This one person's biased opinion against/for a console
I read each paragraph before I read what the conclusion was; when I was sure that it was the 360 or even a tie... they put it down for the PS3....
I'm not saying they aren't titled to their own opinion, but I thought the goal for "reporters" were to be objective. I would say this article is not.
Post by: chelfy on February 28, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
The graphics and processing power between the 2 systems is small, not enough of a factor to justify one system over the other. A new PC with 8800GT vid card will blow away both systems on graphics, call of duty 4 for instance.
The PS3 is more reliable, quiet, and overall a much better deal hardware wise (Wireless, bluray, internal ps).
The 360 has a better dashboard and much better online experience. PS3's don't even come with a headset.
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My opinion, if you are a light gamer and home theater enthusiast reach for the PS3 for versatility.
If you want the best online gaming experience and friends network get a 360.
Overall the "fun" factor for me is in the 360, and that is why I chose to sell my PS3.
Post by: tantrance on February 28, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
Four chances .:
Or the guys who tested this where drunk (witch is the most reliable chance)
Or they "do" like the "pop" , because the pop smokes the dope !!
(equaly reliable)Or PS3 Fanboys ;( Could be ??)
Or the tree chances together (i´ve found it!)
C'mon ? What is the goal , increase the ps3 sells? I´ve played this very games and i´ve seen that is exactly the OPOSITE. The graphics are far away better in XBOX360 than in PS3 even if played in a SONY Bravia LCD(witch is the case);
Im not a MS lover but this statements about PS3 been better are pure marketing strategy.
Here are some examples of Sony´s marketing strategy .:
PS3 the console that waited until MS XBOX360 launch to launch a better console (and has failed, it's a fact)
The PS3 release date was changed for tree times before the XBOX360 release (curious ?)
Cell Processor, a processor that nobody knows how to work with it at full power (advanced technology ? I doubt it)
Question ??????
PS3 Cell Processor has been used only at 30% +- of its full capacity(what are they waiting for ; Xbox360 Ultimate ??)
Where is the creator of this processor ? Maybe this is some kind of ALIEN TECHNOLOGY right ?
We will keep waiting until Sony unveills the "true power" of PS3 , untilll there play XBOX360 or Nintendo wii(witch is far away more fun)
SONY may the FORCE be with you !! NOT
P.S.: I promisse to all PS3 buyers that i will try to talk about this matter with Mr.Rosevellt( i doubt that he will answer me or even listen , because this matter is TOP SECRET)[ dont take this seriously the man is dead for cist sake !! ]
Post by: gatorayde on February 28, 2008, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE(chelfy @ Feb 28 2008, 06:14 PM)
Here is my very basic summary and opinion on PS3 vs 360.
The graphics and processing power between the 2 systems is small, not enough of a factor to justify one system over the other. A new PC with 8800GT vid card will blow away both systems on graphics, call of duty 4 for instance.
The PS3 is more reliable, quiet, and overall a much better deal hardware wise (Wireless, bluray, internal ps).
The 360 has a better dashboard and much better online experience. PS3's don't even come with a headset.
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My opinion, if you are a light gamer and home theater enthusiast reach for the PS3 for versatility.
If you want the best online gaming experience and friends network get a 360.
Overall the "fun" factor for me is in the 360, and that is why I chose to sell my PS3.
Sure but a for a PC to match the performance of a ps3/360 @ 1080p with decent FPS would cost at least $1k, whereas for that price you can buy both for $1k. Just my 2 cents...
Post by: Mr Invader on February 28, 2008, 11:03:00 PM
QUOTE(gatorayde @ Feb 28 2008, 07:08 PM)
Sure but a for a PC to match the performance of a ps3/360 @ 1080p with decent FPS would cost at least $1k, whereas for that price you can buy both for $1k. Just my 2 cents...
The PC can do much more than a xbox 360 and PS3... just my 2 cents.
And what is with all of the "360 doomsday" posts on XB-S lately? Are the mods turning into PS3 fanboys or are you just flame baiting?
Post by: Foe-hammer on February 29, 2008, 02:05:00 AM
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This kind of temporal AA/blur is a very, very old technique, long before shaders. It's not an extra, it's a compromise: apparently they didn't have the resources to do 2xMSAA in a single 60Hz frame on the PS3, so they just render it raw and jitter the next frame for an amortized approximation.
The thing is, this trick only works for static scenes with a static camera, since it's stretching out the operation over several frames. Otherwise you tend to get a blurred mess.
the temporal AA effect work only with relative static scene (in this case some graphic element can have better AA than X360 version like on my photo) but with move scene they are no AA effect, just persistence effect (persistence is not really a sexy effect)
but without this the PS3 version would have no AA
The thing is, this trick only works for static scenes with a static camera, since it's stretching out the operation over several frames. Otherwise you tend to get a blurred mess.
the temporal AA effect work only with relative static scene (in this case some graphic element can have better AA than X360 version like on my photo) but with move scene they are no AA effect, just persistence effect (persistence is not really a sexy effect)
but without this the PS3 version would have no AA
They only thing that is in favor of the ps3, is it has better controls - due to the better placement/size of the L1 button. The 360s bumper button just doesn't do as good.
Did they just say, "Superior online integration on the PS3"? The whole article lost any creditability that it may have had. To say that CoD4 online is better on the 360? I find that very hard to believe, considering I have heard just the opposite by more then a few people who have tried both versions, and there conclusion is in extreme favor for the 360 version. For example, they said at any given time there is more then triple the amount of people playing the 360 version. Plus the ability to look up a players card in game, and have the option to mute them, among other things would suggest the opposite.
The funny thing is, the one game that they said looked unquestionably better on the 360 is the only game that looks exactly the same on both consoles. And that game is assassins creed.
Post by: Chancer on February 29, 2008, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Feb 29 2008, 06:39 AM)
And what is with all of the "360 doomsday" posts on XB-S lately? Are the mods turning into PS3 fanboys or are you just flame baiting?
What would you prefer everything was blowing sunshine about the 360 or something a little controversial to discuss?
I suspect the very reason this news was posted is because Xantium also thought it was fiction and also thought it may generate a worthy interesting debate. That is what it is doing. These are forums after all. It would be so boring if everyone came on here and we all sat patting each other on the back about how great the 360 was, with no views (even if the person who wrote the article is off base)from all sides.
All this fanboy stuff is all rubbish. People should state their points from any side of the fence without accusations of "fanboy".
Because somebody likes something different, or has a view from a different perspective does not make it right for them to be called out as a "Fanboy". Isn't this what happens in school when Bullies attack something/somebody different to them.
If you personally have an issue with a news post you would need to deal with it one to one with Admin.
Personally I think the thread was going well. We don't want this degenerating into name calling, do we?
Post by: SensualMango on March 02, 2008, 01:03:00 AM
QUOTE(PerfectGun @ Feb 28 2008, 12:25 AM)
Completely subjective article and don't agree at all. PS3 COD4 was a mess and you couldn't even get into a match until it was patched months later. The controller blows but it does have a better D-Pad.
For the last time. WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?
Post by: Chancer on March 02, 2008, 03:21:00 AM
QUOTE(SensualMango @ Mar 2 2008, 08:39 AM)
For the last time. WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?
You mean you don't really care for it. Many people I know were brought up using it and still do.
Once more it is personal taste. Much the same as the original news post, you can't decide what other people like or dislike.
Post by: chronno on March 03, 2008, 09:34:00 AM
The PS3 has 9 processor cores. 6 are dedicated to graphics. Why is their even a debate? Shouldn't the PS3 be winning hands down? If their is even a debate than Sony definitely did something wrong.
I presently have an xbox 360 with 23 games last count. I like the controller better than I like the PS2 controller (same layout as the PS3 last I checked).
I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on. I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.
Post by: bludhound on March 06, 2008, 03:12:00 AM
QUOTE(chronno @ Mar 4 2008, 12:34 AM)
First I'd like to say I don't have a PS3 so I wouldn't know.
The PS3 has 9 processor cores. 6 are dedicated to graphics. Why is their even a debate? Shouldn't the PS3 be winning hands down? If their is even a debate than Sony definitely did something wrong.
I presently have an xbox 360 with 23 games last count. I like the controller better than I like the PS2 controller (same layout as the PS3 last I checked).
I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on. I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but not all the 6 available SPEs are dedicated to graphics, right? If that is true, the PS3 will only have one available PPE as compared to X360's 3, and it's a fact that the GPU in the X360 beats the one in the PS3 hands-down.
Ultimately, I feel the technical aspects of the consoles should be the last thing on our minds as consumers. Developers should be the ones worrying about that. If they really want to make a certain game for a system, they will be able to do it despite the technical limitations. Take No More Heroes on Wii as an example. What really matters for us is features, quality (previous problems like RROD aside) and games. In contrast to some consoles from some previous generations, this generation is seeing a healthy library of games and fanbases on all consoles.
Both systems have good exclusives, but Dead Rising (along with a number of upcoming horror games) and Gears of War were the final deciding factor for getting my X360. I got a Wii too, mainly for the Resident Evil franchise (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, VeronicaX, UC).
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 06, 2008, 07:19:00 AM
QUOTE(chronno @ Mar 3 2008, 11:34 AM)
I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on. I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.
I have a SageTV box... I love the thing though mine runs on Windows XP x64 through a HTPC I built.
I don't see any real reason your project wouldn't work but I will warn you that USB based capture devices blow. You wont get enough bandwidth on them for HD capture and they typically utilize software based decoders (PCI based cards typically have a hardware base decoder). With that said I'm sure the CELL would have no problems crunching though MPEG2 but I would be weary of the fact that the GPU is disabled in Linux, I know SageTV does utilize the graphics card in my box and when I disabled it to test some stuff out it slowed down quite a bit and became laggy...
If and when you do this I'd be quite interested in the results. As for the cost I built my SageTV box without using any old components and I did it for under $600 and that included the SageTV license, remote, capture card, dvd burner, aluminum HTPC case and 400GB HDD. So, aside from the benefit of having a blu-ray player in the same box (though you'd have to reboot to use it) I don't see it as much of a cost savings overall.
Post by: Nive on March 06, 2008, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE(SensualMango @ Mar 2 2008, 09:39 AM)
For the last time. WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?
Erm... have you ever tried an Beat em Up like DoA4? Or some Old-School-Arcade-Games? Or Oblivion? (Shortcuts?) Or GoW? (Select a weapon?)
Man... the D-Pad sucks pretty hard. BeU are almost horror, same @ XBL-Arcade. Even mainly "Analog-Stick-Games" like GoW oder Oblivion are affected.
It's a pain in the ass too select the proper Spell/Item in Oblivion. I have no idea how often I switched to the Granades in GoW instead of Shotgun...