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Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Xbox-Scene on September 04, 2007, 10:14:00 PM
Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Posted by XanTium | September 4 23:38 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From kotaku.com:
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While the Western world shirks from Adults Only console games, Xbox Japan embraces them. What the hell, it has nothing to lose! As part of its low cost "Platinum Collection," Microsoft will be realizing a two pack of Gears of War and Dead Rising. Both games were slapped with the dreaded CERO Z rating, which is equal to ESRB's games-as-porn AO rating.

Full Story: kotaku.com



Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Software2 on September 04, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
Well, clearly it's NOT the equivalent. Japan doesn't have a death sentence rating.

Though Dead Rising is a porn game. wink.gif
Zombie Erotica PP FTW!
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: mp5user on September 04, 2007, 10:37:00 PM
hopfully these are region free and have multi. lang., well at least Japanese and English
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Cyberdude93 on September 04, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
QUOTE(mp5user @ Sep 5 2007, 05:37 AM) View Post

hopfully these are region free and have multi. lang., well at least Japanese and English


Uh, why?

What's wrong with your "Western" copies of Gears of War and Dead Rising?
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: epsilon72 on September 04, 2007, 10:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Cyberdude93 @ Sep 4 2007, 10:02 PM) View Post


Uh, why?

What's wrong with your "Western" copies of Gears of War and Dead Rising?

I think he misread the article - he wants pr0n games. wink.gif
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on September 05, 2007, 12:01:00 AM
Why did Gears and Dead Rising even get that rating?  I mean, yeah I guess they are somewhat violent, but there are a lot more graphic games out there (Soldier of Fortune anyone?)  Maybe that got a AO in Japan if it released there, but I haven't ever seen anything about it.  Oh well, doesn't bother me any, I don't live there.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: [TR] on September 05, 2007, 04:28:00 AM
QUOTE(47_M450N_47 @ Sep 5 2007, 07:01 AM) *

Why did Gears and Dead Rising even get that rating?


Why not? They're not exactly kids games, and if there is a rating targeted at adults, let it be used!
Of course, the way ratings are used all around the world warrants them very little credibility, but if games and movies were rated in an objective way many more would get AO ratings.

Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: bucko on September 05, 2007, 06:17:00 AM
LoL what a strange way to get in the Japanese market!
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: quall on September 05, 2007, 10:04:00 AM
QUOTE
' date='Sep 5 2007, 06:28 AM' post='4101254']
Why not? They're not exactly kids games, and if there is a rating targeted at adults, let it be used!
Of course, the way ratings are used all around the world warrants them very little credibility, but if games and movies were rated in an objective way many more would get AO ratings.
Japanese don't embrace violence like Americans. Just like we don't embrace sensuality like many of them.

From what I see, we care less about exposing graphical content to minors than we do the naked human body. For them and many other countries it is the opposite. Personally, I think watching people getting killed and exploding is worse and kind of agree with them.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Rustmonkey on September 05, 2007, 12:25:00 PM
Nice - at least the Japanese have their priorities straight - we Americans are ok to let our young bathe in blood, but heaven forbid that they see a nipple or the naked body... sex is a NORMAL part of life - gratuitious violence is NOT - so which one should be more taboo?  Millions of people have sex with eachother everyday - millions of people do not chainsaw eachother in a bloodbath...

WTF?  Great Christian values ruling society right there...

This post has been edited by Rustmonkey: Sep 5 2007, 07:26 PM
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: palmmann on September 05, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Sep 5 2007, 01:25 PM) *

Nice - at least the Japanese have their priorities straight - we Americans are ok to let our young bathe in blood, but heaven forbid that they see a nipple or the naked body... sex is a NORMAL part of life - gratuitious violence is NOT - so which one should be more taboo?  Millions of people have sex with eachother everyday - millions of people do not chainsaw eachother in a bloodbath...

WTF?  Great Christian values ruling society right there...

+1
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: gcskate27 on September 05, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Sep 5 2007, 01:25 PM) View Post

Nice - at least the Japanese have their priorities straight - we Americans are ok to let our young bathe in blood, but heaven forbid that they see a nipple or the naked body... sex is a NORMAL part of life - gratuitious violence is NOT - so which one should be more taboo?  Millions of people have sex with eachother everyday - millions of people do not chainsaw eachother in a bloodbath...

WTF?  Great Christian values ruling society right there...

A WITCH!!! BURN 'EM!!!!
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: prplehz on September 05, 2007, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Sep 5 2007, 11:25 AM) *

Nice - at least the Japanese have their priorities straight - we Americans are ok to let our young bathe in blood, but heaven forbid that they see a nipple or the naked body... sex is a NORMAL part of life - gratuitious violence is NOT - so which one should be more taboo?  Millions of people have sex with eachother everyday - millions of people do not chainsaw eachother in a bloodbath...

WTF?  Great Christian values ruling society right there...


Im with you on that one dude!!!
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: __someone__ on September 06, 2007, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Sep 5 2007, 01:25 PM) View Post

Nice - at least the Japanese have their priorities straight - we Americans are ok to let our young bathe in blood, but heaven forbid that they see a nipple or the naked body... sex is a NORMAL part of life - gratuitious violence is NOT - so which one should be more taboo?  Millions of people have sex with eachother everyday - millions of people do not chainsaw eachother in a bloodbath...

WTF?  Great Christian values ruling society right there...


While I agree with the sentiment, kinda stupid everyones jumping on the blame christians bandwagon as I'm pretty sure the 6th commandent is thou shalt not kill not thou shalt not have sex...  

...just sayin
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: throwingks on September 06, 2007, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(__someone__ @ Sep 6 2007, 08:35 PM) View Post
While I agree with the sentiment, kinda stupid everyones jumping on the blame christians bandwagon as I'm pretty sure the 6th commandent is thou shalt not kill not thou shalt not have sex...  

...just sayin

I disagree with your statement.

6th says "Don't Kill" = A real life thing
10th says "Don't Lust" = A thought

In a movie or a game, you do not kill in real life, but you can potentially lust for a digital beauty (based on a real person). = Christian values dictate that play killing is ok, but play sex is not.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Rustmonkey on September 06, 2007, 07:45:00 PM
QUOTE(__someone__ @ Sep 6 2007, 06:35 PM) View Post

While I agree with the sentiment, kinda stupid everyones jumping on the blame christians bandwagon as I'm pretty sure the 6th commandent is thou shalt not kill not thou shalt not have sex...  

...just sayin


I'm not trying to blatantly call out Christians here, as I AM a Christian (just one that happens to look more into the gnostic than others)... the point I'm making is that we our seperation of church and state is a joke and that too many EXTREME ideals permeate the functioning of our society.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: __someone__ on September 06, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Sep 6 2007, 09:21 PM) *

I'm not trying to blatantly call out Christians here, as I AM a Christian (just one that happens to look more into the gnostic than others)... the point I'm making is that we our seperation of church and state is a joke and that too many EXTREME ideals permeate the functioning of our society.


I understand where you are coming from, I didn't mean to come off (and hopefully I didn't) as sounding mean or like an ass.  

I do whole-heartedly agree with your original statement, from a religious and also non religious perspective, I just didn't like seeing "Christians" sounding like people who condone violence but think sex is evil if you know what I mean.

throwingks - you do bring up an interesting point but Christian values (not accounting for everyone’s particular beliefs) don't equate to "play killing is ok, but play sex is not".  I'm not saying play killing is equal to real killing, just that God isn't a list of, 'this is right, this is wrong'.  I can be pretty sure He wouldn’t be thrilled with someone playing a really gratuitous, violent game anymore then one with a couple nipples.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: throwingks on September 07, 2007, 07:45:00 AM
QUOTE(__someone__ @ Sep 7 2007, 12:10 AM) *
throwingks - you do bring up an interesting point but Christian values (not accounting for everyone’s particular beliefs) don't equate to "play killing is ok, but play sex is not".  I'm not saying play killing is equal to real killing, just that God isn't a list of, 'this is right, this is wrong'.
I am speaking strictly on the 10 Commandments. I, admittedly, do not know enough of "Christian values" to have a proper conversation with you on that subject.
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I can be pretty sure He wouldn’t be thrilled with someone playing a really gratuitous, violent game anymore then one with a couple nipples.
There is no way to know for sure. But, strictly using the 10 Commandments as a compass, "thinking of killing" is not mentioned.

That is my take on why the game and movie ratings work the way they do here. Personally, I believe there should be harsher ratings for violent video games and movies in the States. But, the "moral" people who make those decisions, don't agree with me.

Thank you for joining to give your opinion and takes. It is appreciated. Many religious defenders view themselves as warriors. For you to present your opinions as respectfully as you have, is nice to see.

This post has been edited by throwingks: Sep 7 2007, 02:47 PM
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Rustmonkey on September 07, 2007, 11:04:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Sep 7 2007, 07:45 AM) View Post


Thank you for joining to give your opinion and takes. It is appreciated. Many religious defenders view themselves as warriors. For you to present your opinions as respectfully as you have, is nice to see.



Amen to dat brotha!  biggrin.gif
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: __someone__ on September 08, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
Thanks everyone for the support, even though we weren't exactly discussing heavy religion, I appreciate a lot listening and respecing THAT I had something to say as much as I appreciate how you cared about what I had to say.

I agree that violence in video games/other media should be weighed harsher.  I think the entire ESRB is incredibly flawed.  Pair that with so many stores and companies not allowing AO games its a huge mess.  I don't care who you are games like Manhant are not for anyone under 18.

Anyway... back to religion for a sec, if you guys are ever interested theres a great book call "Blue Like Jazz" I recommend everyone reading.  Its honestly the best book I've ever read.  
Thanks for the time guys,
Andrew
andrewgallucci @ mail .com
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Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: Navillos on September 21, 2007, 12:36:00 PM
oh god why did this turn to religion. everyone knows we evolved from monkeys anyway. geez

anyways at least MS is still trying to stay in the market over there.
Title: Microsoft's Adults Only Game Bundle for Japan
Post by: LIVE Prophet on September 21, 2007, 09:02:00 PM
Ha that reminds me of what they did with the original xbox, using a pr0n star from Japan (dont remember her name, but she was popuplar).