Post by: Xbox-Scene on March 09, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
id Software CEO: piracy pushed us multiplatform Posted by XanTium | March 10 00:04 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: mlapaglia on March 09, 2007, 09:26:00 PM
Post by: pholly on March 09, 2007, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: Xboxer on March 09, 2007, 10:09:00 PM
Piracy is not the problem here,the "problem" is called competition!!!! This is not 10 years ago where ID can make quake and every gamer out there will buy it just because its the only good game.There are hundreds of games coming out each year now some of the dev teams are 100+ people.Make a game that I want to play and I will buy it.I'm not saying that pirating games is ok ,I'm just saying that 90% of games are not worth buying thats all.btw OBLIVION did very bad because it was pirated.Here is a list of games I'm buying as soon as they hit the stores.
STALKER preorder
Crysis
Assassins Creed preorder
Mass Effect
Halo3 (maybe after I try the beta)
Shadowrun
Quake wars(if it comes in the near future)
Any game by Simbin
forgot Unreal 3
This post has been edited by Xboxer: Mar 10 2007, 06:14 AM
Post by: SpikeMage on March 09, 2007, 11:59:00 PM
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ Mar 10 2007, 05:33 AM) 
bitter sweet, piracy is bad.. but id games for the 360 is good..
You uh.. Didn't play Quake 4 did you?
Post by: ejx982 on March 10, 2007, 12:01:00 AM
ejx982
Post by: Base8 on March 10, 2007, 12:16:00 AM
Post by: The Zep Man on March 10, 2007, 12:17:00 AM
Platforms of Doom...
Platforms of Doom ][...
Platforms of Quake...
Platforms of Quake II...
Platforms of Quake III...
Blaming piracy is always so easy for the PR department.
Post by: Base8 on March 10, 2007, 12:23:00 AM
Post by: ExitRooster on March 10, 2007, 12:32:00 AM
PC software can be copied, installed, and run. Nocd/nodvd's can be made, sure. But there is always that 'authorized key' ability on PC games. you know, the one that tracks your cd-key and when it appears on 1000 machines all of a sudden, hey - It doesn't work anymore.. I mean, how many illegal copies of BF2/2142 are there out there? I'm betting 0. As another, look at MS and XP.. How many times have they released the "Xp genuine validation tool". I've downloaded it at least 8 times, prolly alot more. Why? Because they've discovered yet another batch of hacked/illegit keys..
Console software can be copied ALMOST as easily, but only by someone who does the research to figure out the madness. I mean, any fool can copy pc to pc, and while we all here take game ripping for granted, the truth is Billy-bob down the street hasn't the slightest clue how to make a backup of his Dreamcast/Ps1/PS2/Xbox title.
Post by: Sanitarium on March 10, 2007, 01:58:00 AM
Post by: luther349 on March 10, 2007, 02:18:00 AM
Post by: Helliano on March 10, 2007, 03:56:00 AM
But they have alot games that dont fit me.
Problem is people dont buy games for PC that they "just" want to 99% etc.
Then they download......
And you see a pattern.
Post by: Uradox on March 10, 2007, 04:30:00 AM
Its all good and fair to say you buy your games now, but have you always? I for one never bought a game while i was a teenager. Now I occasionally buy a game, I hardly play them but I still pay.
Post by: luther349 on March 10, 2007, 08:01:00 AM
but its also true some people will just steal anything they can they dont care it might kill a good game or make people not wanna make the game for said platform. but its been that way for the last 20 or so years and they still make pc games why couse they will always sell pc gaming will never die.
Post by: 0794 on March 10, 2007, 08:25:00 AM
They sound like the RIAA and MPAA blaming piracy for anything and everything - and with piracy being a faceless entity, they can get away with it.
Post by: Vfreitas on March 10, 2007, 08:49:00 AM
As far as PC piracy goes, I sort of believe them. It's become so widespread now, console gaming must seem like a freshly paved road to trample through.
Post by: Xx The 0ne xX on March 10, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
Post by: jimjom on March 10, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
Doom is most likely my favorite game of all time. Any of the official incarnations of the original doom are simply amazing to me. The atmosphere developed in doom is greatly unparalled even to this day for me personally. So I will always hold pretty much all of their licenses close.
I am starving for some more DOOM on xbla. Gimme that Final Doom and Doom 2!!
How awesome would quake be on xbla? OMFG! Those deathmatches are out of control. Some grappling hook couldn't hurt either.
Doom 3 kinda fell short for me. I got real tired of all the corridor walking. Didn't have that classic doom map feel...
" CLASSIC DOOM 3", a badass mod for the pc version of doom retains the original map style did indeed what it proposes, but I feel it was a little too late and wasnt official. Return to Castle Wolfenstein was pretty incredible. I'll leave it to that.
Post by: luther349 on March 11, 2007, 01:36:00 AM
unlike consoles pc gaming have slow times. then stuff like wow or another good game no it doesent have to be a mmo comes out and pc gaming once again goes insane. hell thers been pc game made that where so graphicly intensiv and complex that consoles coudent even handel them rember when black and white came out back when ps1 and n64 where thought good. they failed on porting that game many times.
and as always pcs will catch up and outclass consoles in a cuple years hell we aruldy have quad core porssers.
Post by: Charbless on March 11, 2007, 09:52:00 AM
The money is on the consoles due to it's large fan base that's the real reason not piracy this have been proven by many companies that don't use any copy protection because they refuse to fund companies like safedisc/securerom, if the games good enough people will buy it.
Post by: Neoistheone2000 on March 11, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
Post by: DuBob4432 on March 11, 2007, 11:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Charbless @ Mar 11 2007, 08:59 AM) 
ID reason is a complete load of crap.
The money is on the consoles due to it's large fan base that's the real reason not piracy this have been proven by many companies that don't use any copy protection because they refuse to fund companies like safedisc/securerom, if the games good enough people will buy it.
i agree 100%, everybody blames piracy because it can't be proven. trust me, my main rig an run just about any game (except oblivion, which i don't play anyway) at my lcd native resolution of 1280x1024 at at least medium - high settings with no problems.
what i have noticed is that with pc games, the are selling what should be betas as games and then patching the hell out of them and that is what is driving away people from the pc gaming. i am returning back to consoles after 10+yrs off of them (whenever the intial playstation was - 1995 or so) and i have been a avid, paying pc gamer for that time. what have i been given - some pretty sh!tty games in the quality department, especially the last 2 years - it went down the toilet. i mainly play fps and the occassional rts, and the last pc game i picked up was company of heroes - good game, before that it was bf2. the reason they are going multi-platform is strictly because of $$$$, nothing else - they see the $$$ in the consoles and want a piece of it, plain and simple. trust me, if a person can afford a $600 gpu, they can afford a $50 game. what is sad is they are making the games so you need a $600 gpu to play them - clean up your fucking code. i have programmed in the past and know firsthand you can easily modify code to make it more efficient - if you take the time, which they obviously don't so a $600gpu is needed for all the unnecessary stuff the gpu probably shouldn't have to do with their spaghetti mess of code.
sure they are ways to pirate games, and trust me, you could do it long before bittorrent came out, and also many publishers use bittorrent for distribution - first they cry about it, then they use it? what are they fucking miltiple personalities??? but if a developer does a good job, i will pay the $50 no problem, but what i am seeing is a lot of sh!t pc games and a lot of refined 360 games (that is the only console i own). his bitching kind of pisses me off, pussifying enemy territory. guess now i am looking forward more to frontlines: fuel of war (from the real makers of bf2 - trauma studios - now kaos studios) i didn't read the whole article, so hopefully those developers aren't crying like little bitches too....
QUOTE(Neoistheone2000 @ Mar 11 2007, 02:28 PM)
I'm just waiting for the day i have to type in a key for the game i just bought for a console.
type in a key, give a dna sample, get fingerprinted, hahaha