Post by: pholly on January 19, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: tNCecil on January 19, 2007, 09:48:00 AM
Post by: signal-to-noise-ratio on January 19, 2007, 09:51:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 19, 2007, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(newf @ Jan 19 2007, 12:12 PM) 
make it as big as they want as far as I am concerned. Just give us the option to delete them and redownload them in the future if we need since we already paid for them.
You can do that right now... infact you could do that way back when the 360 launched
Post by: KAGE360 on January 19, 2007, 11:14:00 AM
forget about ps1 and N64 ports, i say bring us the saturn games!
Post by: incognegro on January 19, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
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Now we definitely need a bigger HD. Does Ms even use their own equipment? They have to be annoyed by running out of hd space also.
The dev kits use some huge 100+ gig HDDs. A n64 game would be way bigger on the 360 cause the download will have to also include the emu.
Post by: jimjom on January 19, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
Post by: Pheidias on January 19, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
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Why don't they just let us use external storage or make an adapter for the memory card slot that will take flash memory and be done with it.
MS Just wants to make money, they don't care about what you want or don't want. They want total control of the environment. Thats why they use propriety.
Post by: incognegro on January 19, 2007, 11:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 19 2007, 07:28 PM)
MS Just wants to make money, they don't care about what you want or don't want. They want total control of the environment. Thats why they use propriety.
WRONG! because MS is scared of piracy. So they rather make most everything propriety so that piracy isn't as easy as say....the ps3
maybe if they just sold u a computer then u wouldn't complain, there is nothing proppriety about that and its also a haven for piracy.
Post by: Lordscr on January 19, 2007, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: Hyper_Eye on January 19, 2007, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Jan 19 2007, 12:25 PM)
A n64 game would be way bigger on the 360 cause the download will have to also include the emu.
Why include emu's when you can do it right and make it native?
Post by: mister.shine on January 19, 2007, 12:19:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Jan 19 2007, 06:21 PM)
i think this is great news, i cant wait to see what types of new and old games they release now.
forget about ps1 and N64 ports, i say bring us the saturn games!
I would love to see revamped versions of the original Daytona(not the crap CCE edition), NiGHTS, Dragon Force and of course Radiant Silvergun.
Post by: grim_d on January 19, 2007, 12:26:00 PM
Post by: griffin XXI on January 19, 2007, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 19 2007, 12:28 PM)
MS Just wants to make money, they don't care about what you want or don't want. They want total control of the environment. Thats why they use propriety.
Careful Pheidas, or MS will buy(undisclosed sum) you out from your parents(hip hip hooray!) and then they'll zip your lip. And I for one would miss that. Hmm hmmm.
I second that Grim d, hi def Goldeneye please!!
Post by: KAGE360 on January 19, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Pheidias @ Jan 19 2007, 01:28 PM)
MS Just wants to make money, they don't care about what you want or don't want. They want total control of the environment. Thats why they use propriety.
please watch how you let your biased opinions effect what you say to other members. yes money is a factor (to all companies) but there are also other reasons for microsoft's decisions. standards, money, and piracy are the 3 main reasons microsoft has so much control over their system. reading about sony's voided warranty scheme when using unofficial cables and peripherals makes me happy that microsoft enforces certified equipment.
QUOTE(mister.shine @ Jan 19 2007, 02:26 PM)
I would love to see revamped versions of the original Daytona(not the crap CCE edition), NiGHTS, Dragon Force and of course Radiant Silvergun.
not to mention panzer dragoon (1, 2, and Saga!), burning rangers, duke nukem 3D, Fighters megamix, last bronx, and more!
Post by: feflicker on January 19, 2007, 01:38:00 PM
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Why don't they just let us use external storage or make an adapter for the memory card slot that will take flash memory and be done with it.
Because then it would be too easy to copy stuff to other devices, even with the DRM.
Post by: SwivZero on January 19, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Microsoft)
We do not comment on rumor and speculation and so we can not confirm that rumor. Aside from the exception we granted for 'Castlevania: Symphony of the Night,' we have not announced any plans to alter the file size standard for Xbox Live Arcade games. However, adjusting the size limit is certainly an option in the future, and as always, we are listening to feedback both from gamers and developers on what will provide the best user experience...
It's funny how M$ always says they don't comment on rumor or speculation, and then they go ahead and comment on it.
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 19, 2007, 02:20:00 PM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ Jan 19 2007, 03:50 PM)
You guys in america don't have download limits on ur internet yeah?...
I know I'm not, the last time I remember having a download limit I was on dial-up about a decade ago.
I don't know of any people in the US with a limit these days.
Post by: KAGE360 on January 19, 2007, 02:39:00 PM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ Jan 19 2007, 03:50 PM)
You guys in america don't have download limits on ur internet yeah? It seems microsoft never takes that on board here. Here in aus, internet plans all have limits except for a very few rare ones. Im on 12gig a month, which can suck when its a good tv month for you guys (getting the eps from p2p). 450mb for an arcade game? If they used good compression, size wouldn't be such a problem. The XBLA games are meant to be small and easy to pickup for anyone. Things like small arms maybe cross the easy to pickup boundry, but now it looks like they're removing the 'small' boundry too. 450mb is a fair bit, the game had better be good if its that big...
well all hope is not lost, i have read rumors that there is talk of microsoft dividing XBLA into two sections. one meant for the current smaller games, and the other for more fleshed out larger games.
QUOTE(metalcoat @ Jan 19 2007, 04:33 PM)
If we are going into the Duke Nukem 3d area... Who's with me on the death tanks port into XBLA. Now that game i could play for hours.
i remember playing that and to this day i cant figure out why it was so popular
Post by: wirelessdeo on January 19, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
Post by: Nytemunkey on January 19, 2007, 04:11:00 PM
I don't think this will have a profound effect on the size of most games.
Post by: esc1 on January 19, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: mister.shine on January 20, 2007, 01:43:00 AM
QUOTE(metalcoat @ Jan 19 2007, 09:33 PM)
If we are going into the Duke Nukem 3d area... Who's with me on the death tanks port into XBLA. Now that game i could play for hours.
The problem with death tank is you would need network support, as its a pure multiplayer experience. 3D Realms have real dev kits, so maybe we could ask them to port it commercially. On another note, with all this talk of Saturn games, I fired mine up last night and it proved that NiGHTS is screaming for a 360 makeover
Post by: schizzlefuzz on January 20, 2007, 02:05:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 19 2007, 02:27 PM)
I know I'm not, the last time I remember having a download limit I was on dial-up about a decade ago.
I don't know of any people in the US with a limit these days.
Actually many providers do have limits, they just dont tell you about it. I have a 10 megabit up and down fiber and decided to take advantage of it and one day they called me up saying I had used my 100 gig limit for the month and capped my speed until the beginning of the next. Comcast in particular has "invisible" caps where they decide if you are downloading too much and will call you and tell you to stop. It isn't a specific number, just whatever they want it to be.
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