xboxscene.org forums

Xbox360 Forums => Xbox360 Game Forums => Xbox 360 Games General Chat (wip) => Topic started by: esc1 on November 01, 2006, 09:27:00 PM

Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: esc1 on November 01, 2006, 09:27:00 PM
Check out this article.  The expensive DLC released same time as the game basically unlocks what is already on the disc.  You know, it's bad enough EA does something like this, but it's that much worse that MS lets them get away with it.  The marketplace is going downhill incredibly fast in my opinion.  It is supposed to be a medium to enrich gaming, but instead is clearly being used as a tool to break wallets and cheat players out of what should be included on $60 and $70 discs.   dry.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: VerbalVenom on November 01, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
Fuck EA. I'll NEVER support anything they put out. This is rediculous. PAYING to UNLOCK something ALREADY ON THE DISK?!?! You gotta be kidding me? So you're basically paying $10-20 for codes. I hope gamers start wising up and stop supporting their games. Hurt their pockets, and don't buy ANYTHING THEY MAKE.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 02, 2006, 01:13:00 AM
ghetto... EA is lame, but ill still gamefly carbon!
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: Vintersorg69 on November 02, 2006, 01:57:00 AM
Stop whining about it.
Always the same: "Bloody EA... total rip-off"

Come on guys: JUST DON'T BUY IT!
If nobody does, EA will stop doing it.
It's that simple...
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: ade_dnb on November 02, 2006, 02:35:00 AM
What you don't reliase is that you can unlock these for free by just playing through the game like you usually would.  Im a big fan off the NFS games but don't think ill be buying this one....  Everybodys saying that the blur makes it unplayable!!!
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: hamwbone on November 02, 2006, 03:33:00 AM
same thing was done in TOCA 2 for xbox, if you wanted to open all the cars with out winning them you could purchase a key from them online, and it onyl worked on your xbox, this is nothing new
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: hardhead36 on November 02, 2006, 03:41:00 AM
Lame?  I don't think so.  If you want the cars for "free", play through the game.   Don't feel like putting 20 hours in?  Just "unlock" that item you want.  I think it's a good strategy for EA myself.  People nowadays want instant gratification.   This gives it to them without working for it.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: richie579 on November 02, 2006, 06:24:00 AM
that's what codes were always for, I'm not a codes person myself, but jeez, EA's acting like they don't know what "downloadable" content is....I'm not buying it, so whatever.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: esc1 on November 02, 2006, 08:06:00 AM
It's my understanding that you can't earn these cars from the game.  You have to pay to unlock them when they are already on the disc.  Regardless, paying for cheats is rediculous.

IPB Image
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: crobar on November 02, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
something to remember in all of this is
live transactions/micro transactions are new to publishers they are experimenting with the buyer to see what they take to so they can either sell it for more or less or eliminate it all together. our actions will determine what happens with these kinds of charges....
if no one buys access to cheat/content then guess who wont be charging for them anymore.
in the end the idea is now more like buying a car you have options of what you can include in your purchase rather than  them just including them, problem is when they are starting to charge you for a steering wheel and seats
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: Rustmonkey on November 02, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
So has anyone noticed if they're doing this garbage to the Xbox 1 version??
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: redwolf on November 02, 2006, 01:07:00 PM
isn't there a regulation how much a company can make from LIVE Marketplace? Seems like EA are abusing this to earn quick $$$.

If there are no rules for developers, then i would do the same. i mean i can probably make 200-500 gamer pics and theme a day and earn my living at Marketplace.  *sigh*

BOYCOTT EA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: Maverick0984 on November 02, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
Honestly, are you guys (the ones that want the super cars w/o trying) actually trying to search and find problems to complain about? or do u run into them accidentally on your own?  It really seems like you are just complaining to complain about something.

it's a very wise decision on EA's side...pay or play for the extras, your choice. either way, stop complaining.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: shodanjr_gr on November 02, 2006, 04:24:00 PM
EA isnt ripping people off for this stuff. EA is just offering it online for sale. Its the freaking retarded MORONS that go out and actually BUY a freaking CHEAT CODE for 1-2-3-4-5 dollars that make the situation worse. If EA saw that these pay-for cheats didnt sell, they wouldnt bother with them in the first place.

But some idiots in a focus group decided to answer "1. Very Interested" on the "How would you feel about being penetraded in the anus without lubricant by getting charged for cheats you would normally recieve for free?" question.

Bottom line. Stop buying this crap.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: richie579 on November 02, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
well said! tongue.gif ....you guys see on joystiq I think it was, it said if you bought all the carbon stuff it comes out to like 50bux?.....found it.....

http://www.joystiq.c...-speed-unlocka/
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: dgrams2007 on November 02, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
I love EA.  They have made great games.
If they are smart enough to figure out that people will pay for unlockable content,
then my hat is off to them.

So are all of you who talk crap (about boycotting EA) really going to stop playing EA games?
I'll bet 10 to 1 that 99.5% of the people who talk this crap still go out to the
video store and either rent and/or buy the game.  Maybe not this game, but some EA games.

I'm not talking all of them, but EA puts out a bunch of good games.  If you plan on not playing
a game because it sports the EA logo on it, you are a poor excuse for a gamer and really should
just stop looking for excuses to whine about something and start enjoying life.
Why would you want to wish 'badness' on a company that is supplying us entertainment through
video games?  You want to take away other people's enjoyment just because you don't like
a marketing angle?  I don't like the fact that McDonalds only offers McRibs once or twice during
the year.  I'd rather see it on the pemament menu.  But am I trying to destroy the company
just because I don't get my way?  I like other McDonlds food and it would be stupid for me to
attack them and try to run them out of business.

Just like the guys that bottled up water and sold it.  We all complain about it, that it is the lamest thing
in the world... yet every day we see tons of people walking around with bottles of water.
Stupid idea, yes.  Do people still want it, yes.  Would I want to be the guy that came up with this?
"hell ya".

I don't get what the big gripe is about EA.  They are out to make money and stay in business.
Making money off downloadable/unlockable content is not that bad of an idea.  They are just including
the data on the DVDs instead of pushing it out over the 'net.

Some people around here just talk out of their rear ends sometimes.




Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: esc1 on November 02, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE(dgrams2007 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:13 PM) View Post


Some people around here just talk out of their rear ends sometimes.


And you really have reason to make that claim after being registered here for less than two weeks.   laugh.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: Heet on November 03, 2006, 01:38:00 AM
Im not buying their stuff because of advertising they are starting in games.  I get enough of that on tv.

Charging for the rest of the game is just another offense.  


Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: richie579 on November 03, 2006, 04:48:00 AM
I like "some" ea games....I don't mind buying DLC if I think it's worth the 1 or 2$ or whatever it is...I have a problem with being charged for something that's already on the disc that I already bought...you guys that support ea in this like using analogies, what if fast food places started charging you for ketchup, napkins, the wrapping over the burger, whatever, and it ended up nearly costing the price of another burger...now maybe you don't need a napkin, sure you can lick your fingers and wipe em on your jeans....but it was never like that, and shouldn't be....like with codes...I think it'll suck for people that'll buy this stuff, and wouldn't mind unlocking it on their own, but wouldn't cuz they don't know any better...not everybody keeps up on this stuff the way we do....it bugs me cuz I like the NFS games, but there's better games comin, and I'll probably pick this up when it gets cheap minus the DLC jips tongue.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: VerbalVenom on November 03, 2006, 04:58:00 AM
EA is like buying french fries, and only being able to eat one. Every additional one requires $10 worth of "french fry bucks"
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: redwolf on November 03, 2006, 06:04:00 AM
QUOTE(mikedavis2838 @ Nov 2 2006, 10:19 PM) View Post

I have no problem with this if everything can be unlocked by playing through the game, minus the collector's edition. I am surprised the selling of cheats hasnt happened sooner. I wont be buying any of them, but to each his own.

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Nov 2 2006, 10:43 PM) View Post
it's a very wise decision on EA's side...pay or play for the extras, your choice. either way, stop complaining.

someone mentioned that EA say "Many of the items in this bundle can be achieved without purchase by progressing through Career, Challenge Series and Reward Card."
"Many" as in "not all". So each package seems to have stuff that is NOT achievable by just playing the game.

QUOTE(Major Nelson @ November 2, 2006 9:46 PM)

I spend much of last week commenting on this...and I'll talk more about how I feel on my show this week.

Also, I *JUST* got off a plane from the east coast, so it will take me a while to catch up on all the comments that were posted since I have been offline, so pardon me of I was not able to comment on this.

It's still unclear to me: *IS* this content available on other platforms within the games? If so, then no..I am not happy about this. I need to do more digging on this, but I have sent off some rather terse emails to some folks to get to the bottom of this. I am also not happy about you guys not being happy.

LINK
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: VerbalVenom on November 03, 2006, 10:12:00 AM
QUOTE(dgrams2007 @ Nov 3 2006, 02:11 PM) View Post

I buy a game cause it is fun.  I dont hardly spend any money on MS points (maybe $25 since I've had my xbox360) and I would buy any game if it were fun.  Just becasue you cant drive as a few cars you say it's incomplete?  Thats too bad.  You are missing out.  (Maybe not on this game, cause gameplay is pretty bad -
but others...)

... hahah  laugh.gif   I was just waiting for someone to reply with a childish remark about how long I've been a member.
I've been posting here for a LONG time as dgrams2003, but had to quickly make a new account the other day as my password retrieval wasn't working and I didn't want to wait to post something.
People are so immature when they use this as an excuse to strike back at someone.
Yes, you are a better person than anyone that has not been a member as long as you.
Keep thinking that.


So u have 2 accounts? Nice, hopefully we wont hear from u anymore
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: dgrams2007 on November 03, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(VerbalVenom @ Nov 3 2006, 12:19 PM) View Post

So u have 2 accounts? Nice, hopefully we wont hear from u anymore

..at least not in this thread anymore. I put my 2 cents in and don't want to
turn the thread into a mud-slinging fight.

Feel free to resume the EA bashing.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: incognegro on November 03, 2006, 11:19:00 AM
EA is a company. EA makes money through consumers. You are a consumer. Your goal is to spend money wisely through power of choice. Please exercise your power of choice

Thank you
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: Spanisharem on November 03, 2006, 03:19:00 PM
I know this is a little off topic but was anyone prompted for a console update when first putting this game in?
(by the way I haven't done the current LIVE update yet,and I'm not hooked up to live  )
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: richie579 on November 05, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
QUOTE(IcBlUsCrN @ Nov 4 2006, 10:36 PM) View Post

Yes i was prompted for the update  I did not however.
Back Ot
I Have no problem what so ever with the way ea is selling this stuff, it has to make money somehow, So now Pirates cant have everything for free. For those who dont pirate games well we have to suffer but thats life.


So they're not making money off of you buying the game?.....this has nothing to do with piracy, this has to do with screwin the gamer who thought 60bux on it was enough....we just don't want something like this to become a regular thing from other publishers.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: redwolf on November 05, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Nov 3 2006, 08:26 PM) View Post

EA is a company. EA makes money through consumers. You are a consumer. Your goal is to spend money wisely through power of choice. Please exercise your power of choice
QUOTE(richie579 @ Nov 5 2006, 05:19 PM) View Post

we just don't want something like this to become a regular thing from other publishers.

next thing you know, they'll be charging for high resolution texture  sleep.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: richie579 on November 05, 2006, 09:28:00 AM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Nov 5 2006, 11:09 AM) View Post

next thing you know, they'll be charging for high resolution texture  sleep.gif

you never know! tongue.gif .....you wanna run in 1080p?....800 M$ points!!
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: leo5111 on November 05, 2006, 03:09:00 PM

 thats not funny... ohmy.gif     laugh.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: incognegro on November 05, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Nov 5 2006, 05:09 PM) View Post

next thing you know, they'll be charging for high resolution texture  sleep.gif


Isn't that what they are doing now? I mean you did pay for the game rolleyes.gif

Come to think of it, if they charged $50 for the game and then $10 for High Res textures then we would probably better off, now wouldn't we?

Those without hi res didnt have to pay too much for stuff that don't benefit.

I don't really get how that was funny, but whatever.....

I dont complain about stuff like this probably because.........I dont buy 'em, im not stupid.
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: redwolf on November 06, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(savagepoop @ Nov 6 2006, 05:06 PM) View Post
ffs u guys will do anything to slag off EA.

ever wondered why  unsure.gif
Title: Nfs Carbon Dlc Ripoff
Post by: savagepoop on November 06, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Nov 6 2006, 06:50 PM) View Post

ever wondered why  unsure.gif

because ur too quick to jump on the band wagon??

some of these guys are slating this game and they aint even played it!!!
i love alot of EA games, the only 1ns that suck are the soccer 1ns and thats because i hate soccer.  apart from some laggy servers they make good games!