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Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: crobar on September 05, 2006, 12:21:00 PM
ugly...they cant add better than ps2 grass textures to this?
the cars look ok...but i expected better, pgr3 kills this
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
Wow terrible.  Kinda figured it would be.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: GSX on September 05, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
WTF are you ppl talking about? Grass? Who gives a fuck at 200mph... Those screens look great to me.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: Boydster on September 05, 2006, 01:48:00 PM
The actual screens don't say Forza 2 on them anywhere. Only the wire frames do.

There's no way that's what it looks like. It's coming out a year after PGR3, I just don't believe they're legit. The license plate even says GT2, coincidence?
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: redwolf on September 05, 2006, 03:59:00 PM
if it is Forza 2, then must be a version for Xbox and not Xbox 360  blink.gif
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: Boydster on September 05, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
QUOTE(redwolf @ Sep 5 2006, 05:06 PM) View Post

if it is Forza 2, then must be a version for Xbox and not Xbox 360  blink.gif

hmmmmmmm........
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: Heet on September 05, 2006, 08:19:00 PM
Geezus if you guys are impressed with this crap then why buy a 360?  



Just play the xbox/ps2 games.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: tNCecil on September 05, 2006, 08:45:00 PM
The exact thing that I worried about is happening. The blur technique is becoming the Next-Generation fog from the PS1/N64 days, as its being used to hide details and stuff that really should be there. Its one thing to focus on something, but thats just not what focusing looks like.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: redwolf on September 06, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
thats 20X Anti-Aliasing. and 60X used on the grass ph34r.gif
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: crobar on September 06, 2006, 06:16:00 AM
why bitch about grass?
well
rallisport challenge 2 had grass on my xbox...and it made the game look that much more real.
this game really does look like a xbox game nothing about it says next gen...or even last gen for that matter
i expected somthing at least on par with pgr3... dry.gif
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: nickthegreat on September 06, 2006, 07:22:00 AM
Early build thats all: according to Che at least. What pisses me off is that turn 10 have already confirmed that 3d grass has been implemented in the game - look at the update on the 19th of august.
So either they are lying, or stupid for releasing shots with effects turned off.

EDIT, at least theyve got till march now to sort it (probably - its definately delayed, actual date to be confirmed.) No longer holiday 2006
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: incognegro on September 08, 2006, 07:36:00 AM
Can anyone tell how good the game plays from how the those screens look? No? well what are you complaining about? I dont care how the game look, if it plays atleast as good as forza 1 with more gameplay enhancements then its worth the purchase to me.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2006, 09:37:00 AM
i think the game looks great so far.  people keep saying that PGR3 looks better but the team already said that this game looks better then PGR3 and they have admitted that a lot of the effects are not in the game yet (3D grass for ex.).  also dont forget that this game is running at 720p @ 60fps.  

im happy about the delay, i dont care for them to rush this game and there are already too many games for my budget this fall/winter.
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Post by: DeadPrez on September 08, 2006, 10:29:00 AM
You guys are already dissing a game that hasn't even come out yet.. and all this stuff about confirmed leaked images, its all bullshit oviously.. why not just wait till they make a trailer, and it come sout on demo, and then start your criticism .. thats what i think lol
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2006, 10:37:00 AM
QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 8 2006, 12:14 PM) View Post

not true - they specifically stated in the recent 'pitpass' or whatever its called, that they just implemented 3D grass (not that i care that much) but it does show they are not being entirely truthful. (or like i said, stupid, by releasing pics without all effects.)


i meant in the pics
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Post by: krims0n on September 08, 2006, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 8 2006, 11:55 AM) View Post

So why release screenshots without these effects?

These screenshots were actually done a while back in order to get approval and make it into current issues of gaming magazines. The effects were not finalized at the time. Just because you see a screenshot today doesn't mean it was made today.
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Post by: paranoia4422 on September 08, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
HDR and grass isn't going to sharpen the texture work on the cars, its not going to make the cars skinning accurate, its not going to make the cars tailights accurate(all refering to the EVO)Its a plain shitty job, the car arent accurate to there real life counterparts

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S's on the front are inaccurate, the large S is shifted, the decals are missing on the forza car, why are the windows ALWAYS TINTED?
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: Foe-hammer on September 10, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
Blah!  Give me Rallisport Challange 3 already.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: KAGE360 on September 11, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
QUOTE(paranoia4422 @ Sep 8 2006, 10:58 PM) View Post

HDR and grass isn't going to sharpen the texture work on the cars, its not going to make the cars skinning accurate, its not going to make the cars tailights accurate(all refering to the EVO)Its a plain shitty job, the car arent accurate to there real life counterparts

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S's on the front are inaccurate, the large S is shifted, the decals are missing on the forza car, why are the windows ALWAYS TINTED?


i dont think car accuracy is something you need to worry about.  the first forza was excellent in there area and as for the tinted windows, you are bitching about something that almost every car sim suffers from.  

i dont know enough about forza 2 yet but i know in past generations, tinted windows was to hide the fact that there was a low quality/no driver in the vehicle.

also at least forza has an excuse, you can actually tint your windows while modding your car, so maybe any imperfections you see are the result of mods.  either way, i say sit down and shut up before judging a game before its released especially since the prequal (spelling?) was a proven game
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: grim_d on September 23, 2006, 04:54:00 AM
personally i think they look nice, obviously they will be optimised when trelease comes around and probably look beter, I cant beleive everyone is whining about grass, you want grass? go dive head first into your garden.

Plus have any of you even been to a racetrack, the grass is so freakin short it might aswell not be there, thats if its not covered with gravel traps.

Even so if they spend a bunch of power on the grass it would comprimise the cars, then yous would moan even more. They just cant win.

For the people who said it only looks as good as ps2/xbox, get a grip.

Aside from that, graphics are only say 30% of forza, the gameplay was amazing, and far far more fun than gran turismo, GT4 was a total waste of time, of course thats only my opinion.

at the end of the day, dont like it? dont buy it. Ill buy it on release no matter what it looks like.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: paranoia4422 on September 23, 2006, 08:08:00 AM
QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 23 2006, 11:48 AM) View Post

http://uk.media.xbox...956/imgs_1.html

These latest 3 look MUCH better IMO  biggrin.gif

But now they release one without blur, guess what? enviorment still sucks
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Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: nickthegreat on September 23, 2006, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(paranoia4422 @ Sep 23 2006, 04:15 PM) View Post

But now they release one without blur, guess what? enviorment still sucks
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I see where your coming from, but they have improved slightly, and that picture is hardly ideal in terms of viewing the background. I see you went to forzamotorsport.net for that pic - if you look in the pictures thread (i think) someone gives a comparison of forza1 pictures pre-release to final ones: the difference is quite large. Given the improvement in this game in just one month (since the 1st ingame pics) and the time remaining till release, im feeling happier smile.gif

for all those too lazy to follow links, here are the others:
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Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: grim_d on September 23, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
sucks how? you have to back up your claims.

the sky is blue and the clouds are white, and they look real.

that electricity pylon looks real

those trees in the background look real

the grass is green and the road is grey, and your moving that fast you cant see it anyway.

the car is covered in jaggy refletions and your whining about the freakin environments?
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: KAGE360 on September 23, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
IGN's preview states that the game is only 60% done graphically.  at this stage the game shouldnt even look this good especially when the real goods gets put on near the end of development.

i think we'll all be really surprised by how it looks.  hell i only really care how it plays
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: nickthegreat on September 24, 2006, 06:46:00 AM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 24 2006, 12:03 AM) View Post

IGN's preview states that the game is only 60% done graphically.  at this stage the game shouldnt even look this good especially when the real goods gets put on near the end of development.

i think we'll all be really surprised by how it looks.  hell i only really care how it plays


pfff, IGN can lick my balls  dry.gif  - they think Gears gameplay will become repetitive, yet don't justify why this should be more so than any other game
I don't believe any of their shit now
yet strangely i still find myself being drawn back there.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: incognegro on September 24, 2006, 08:06:00 AM
from 100 to several hundreds of layers!!!!

Oh my god i need to brush up on my art skills! biggrin.gif
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: twistedsymphony on September 24, 2006, 06:41:00 PM
Forza last gen was a good looking game IMO it wasn't the best looking racer but what it lacked in graphics it made up for 10 fold in gameplay and realistic physics.

Any game that has to devote a significant amount of processing power to physics isn't going to have the best looking graphics.

The GT series prides itself on being a simulator but it's only skin deep once you realize the cars can't take damage and the physics are just faked (though pretty damn well). Forza has real damage and real physics... it's a REAL simulator. What you get for graphics is based on what's left after you've calculated everything else

With that said the shots we have look pretty good. IMO if you threw on some FSAA they would already look better then Burnout or Test Drive Unlimited. It's obvious they're in dire need of some FSAA, a bit more detail in the backgrounds as well as some serious texture clean up but aside from that it's better then most of the racers already out on the 360...

I'd say it looks better then: NFS MW, Full Auto, Burnout, Ridge Racer 6, and TDU. I don't think it looks as good as PGR3 but it's also not out yet so time will tell..

Even still, I'd much rather play RSC3 over this... any day of the week wink.gif
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: hamwbone on September 24, 2006, 09:16:00 PM
i hope they put the passanger side tires on the vehicles correctly in forza 2!!! ( im talking to you test drive unlimited!!!) they are backwards!!
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: grim_d on September 25, 2006, 06:51:00 AM
it amazes me how people notice things like that
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Post by: incognegro on September 26, 2006, 06:23:00 AM
not particularly looking forward to RSC3 cause the original team wont be working on it. I would like to keep my memories of that game as "happy" as possible.
Title: Forza Ingame Screens Here......
Post by: paranoia4422 on September 26, 2006, 02:02:00 PM
QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Sep 23 2006, 05:08 PM) View Post

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and those are well over a year old...............

look @ this smug bastard playing the game behind closed doors
http://www.forzacent...ead.php?t=15994
(3rd post down )

Yeah but those look higher resolution/more AA then what you actually got in forza