Post by: Xbox-Scene on May 16, 2006, 09:27:00 AM
Updated: Bungie/Xbox.com Removing Threads of 'leaked' Halo 3 Screens?-- Posted by HSDEMONZ on May 16 11:27 EST
All over the net, stories are quickly popping up regarding these recently released photos, taken of what is allegedly an early Halo 3 Menu screen.
(IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/hsdemonz/Halo3Leaked-ProbablyFake/Halo3-PossibleMenuLeak-Angle180.jpg) (IMG:http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/hsdemonz/Halo3Leaked-ProbablyFake/Halo3-PossibleMenuLeak-headon180.jpg)
It's not uncommon to get real and fake/manufactured pics of hot upcoming projects months before a project goes gold/final. What I find even more interesting is the follow-up reports we're getting of people having posts/thread about these two photos being closed on Xbox.com and Bungie.net forums.The legitimacy of these photos will be questioned until someone from within the key organizations either acknowledges them as legit early screens, or dismisses them as outright fabrications.
It's your call.
UPDATE From: www.bungie.net:
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for more on this story.. www.bungie.net
Here's the deal, folks.
The longstanding policy that in these forums that leaked information is not allowed stands. However, we're tightening the restrictions a bit.
There's a lot of jerks out there that are going to try to get attention by faking "leaked Halo 3 information." A good example would be that "leaked" Halo 3 start menu that people are fruitlessly freaking out about as I write this.
The fact of the matter is that the people that know whether leaks are real or not, namely myself or anyone else that actually works at Bungie, do not have time to go through the forums, watching for leaked content. Nor do we have the time to reply to every stupid rumor you hear with a yay or nay to its veracity. With exception to Ninja on Fire, the rest of the moderators know just as much as you do about development. That means that, with some fakes, they won't be able to tell, just as you won't.
So, we're changing the rule to make it easier on the moderators that don't have an inside track at Bungie.
Any poster that provides any information they claim to be "leaked" will be blacklisted from the forums without the option of appeal. This includes:
Links to alleged screenshots
Links or pasted documents that are alleged descriptions of gameplay, scripts, or whatever.
Any attempt to claim to have "insider information" into the development of Halo 3, or Bungie Studios in general.
The exception to the rule is discussion about rumors mentioned in magazines or reputable websites. "Websites" does not include forums. Posting what you read in randomxboxforum.com constitutes rumormongering and will be treated the same as someone trying to start a rumor from scratch: Blacklisting.
Post by: kezor on May 16, 2006, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: SomeoneX on May 16, 2006, 08:37:00 AM
However, the fact that Bungie/Xbox are banning people for linking them suggests to me that they are real; in the past, if something is fake, Bungie dismisses it as being fake, rather than banning people.
Post by: focusedsoul on May 16, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
Post by: cerealkillajme on May 16, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
EDIT: I find that "classic mode" very interesting if this is real.
This post has been edited by cerealkillajme: May 16 2006, 03:44 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 16, 2006, 08:51:00 AM
However, even if they are real.. they will not likley be the final menu screen. So much of the time, menu screens released/leaked this early before a product launch, rarely finds it's way into the final product.
How's that for sitting on the fence...
Post by: djzzib on May 16, 2006, 08:53:00 AM
EDIT: I find that "classic mode" very interesting if this is real.
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Me too. And just based on the prior frontpage story about Halo 3 and the Camera...Could the Campaign mode use the camera for looking around within the game and classic mode means to turn it off?????
Hmmm.
Post by: SomeoneX on May 16, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ May 16 2006, 02:58 PM) 
Personally.. I think they might be Fake.
However, even if they are real.. they will not likley be the final menu screen. So much of the time, menu screens released/leaked this early before a product launch, rarely finds it's way into the final product.
How's that for sitting on the fence... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Now that's sticking your neck out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
It's probably true that if they are real, things will change in the final build. Another thing that seals the pictures as being true for me however, is a response by one of Bungie.net's forum moderators. One that actually works at Bungie and so knows if they are fake or not. And he didn't explicitly confirm them as fakes.
This post has been edited by SomeoneX: May 16 2006, 04:03 PM
Post by: crobar on May 16, 2006, 08:56:00 AM
Post by: tweak41 on May 16, 2006, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: AllKindsOfRalph on May 16, 2006, 08:59:00 AM
QUOTE(cerealkillajme @ May 16 2006, 07:50 AM) 
I think it's fake. Anybody with a lil H2 modding knows that the intro screen can be changed. Not to say this is what makes if fake, but notice that in the lower left it says "friends" and the "Y" button, H2 had that, so I think it's a fake for sure.
EDIT: I find that "classic mode" very interesting if this is real.
I agree, i think its fake ... the whole fact that it has the old Halo 2 "Y" and "Friends" on the bottom makes me believe its fake ... the game is made for the Xbox 360 ... which means the game will incorporate the dashboard into the game .. you would probably have to go through the guide to go through the friends list like all other 360 games .. they could put it in as a shortcut kind of thing but i would still doubt it
QUOTE(tweak41 @ May 16 2006, 08:04 AM)
If they are fake, someone is pretty damn good with photoshop...
to do this they could have just created a file on the computer .. then stream the image to the TV using the streaming abilities of the Xbox 360 and take a picture of the tv
Post by: sinister slipknot on May 16, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
QUOTE(AllKindsOfRalph @ May 16 2006, 04:06 PM)
I agree, i think its fake ... the whole fact that it has the old Halo 2 "Y" and "Friends" on the bottom makes me believe its fake ... the game is made for the Xbox 360 ... which means the game will incorporate the dashboard into the game .. you would probably have to go through the guide to go through the friends list like all other 360 games .. they could put it in as a shortcut kind of thing but i would still doubt it
to do this they could have just created a file on the computer .. then stream the image to the TV using the streaming abilities of the Xbox 360 and take a picture of the tv
The Xbox guide friends list is better anyway, it doesn't freeze like the Halo 2 one.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 16, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
Can we see some better "fake" Halo 3 menu screens? I'm sure some of you can do better. Post here.
Post by: Diablohead on May 16, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
Its months before the game launch yes, but why not add ring movement if you already made half a menu.
Post by: racerjon777 on May 16, 2006, 09:03:00 AM
I think this could be legitimate, i think the closing of the threads on Bungie.net points to it being real, but then again, there are some very creative pranksters out there.
Post by: C o s m o on May 16, 2006, 09:09:00 AM
BUT what could make it fake is somebody just making that as an image for a screensaver on their modded Xbox, and throwing it up on the set and taking the pic.
I REALLY want bungie to respond somehow. Call it a fake, or call it an early menu. Say nothing and most of us will assume it is legit.
If it is the real deal, no way it is close to final, because the menu font sucks ass. It doesn't seem to fit with Halo IMHO.
Post by: snowcrash8 on May 16, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: Worseley on May 16, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
CLASSIC MODE: Pull a CS: Source and use the new engine to rebuild a previous version of a game. In essence, recreate Halo 1 w/ better graphics and Xbox Live using the Halo3 engine. Then you get the Skilled Halo 1 players and Noobier Halo 2 players all looking forward to the same game.
Post by: quall on May 16, 2006, 09:27:00 AM
Looks like a photoshop version of Halo 2's beta menu. Remember those pics?
Post by: .:Dino:. on May 16, 2006, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: Worseley on May 16, 2006, 09:40:00 AM
http://www.bungie.ne...?postID=6961750
Post by: lostboyz on May 16, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 16, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
What they posted was a Policy Change on their Forum.
Post by: esc1 on May 16, 2006, 09:54:00 AM
Post by: Slrpgeit on May 16, 2006, 09:55:00 AM
Post by: zX_Storm on May 16, 2006, 09:58:00 AM
Post by: lostboyz on May 16, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
I do dislike the single player and the MP isnt as skill oriented as its predacessor, I own it and I play it and I have fun. Im sure 3 will be no different
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 16, 2006, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: blackchild1101 on May 16, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
JUST MARKET THE GAME AS IS. Not some huge deal that has people running across the country to find a white rabbit.
Post by: mterlouw on May 16, 2006, 10:28:00 AM
Of course I'd love to know what "classic mode" is all about, if there are any plans to in-clude that in the final version of the game.
Post by: darkhunter121589 on May 16, 2006, 10:30:00 AM
Or wait mabye its just another one of bungies plans to get us excited. Something like I Love Bees. Get what i mean?
And also if you look at both the images you can tell that the background has note moved at all they are exactly the same but just from a diffrent angle.
Post by: lowendfrequency on May 16, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
Oh that and Bungie officially stated they were fakes.
Post by: appleguru on May 16, 2006, 10:37:00 AM
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ May 16 2006, 11:08 AM)
Since we seem to have a number of people who think it's a photoshop...
Can we see some better "fake" Halo 3 menu screens? I'm sure some of you can do better. Post here.
Post by: Aurahead on May 16, 2006, 10:46:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on May 16, 2006, 11:12:00 AM
QUOTE(C o s m o @ May 16 2006, 11:16 AM)
I don't think it's photoshopped. The reflections from the flash, the multiple angles, etc., I think it's a real screen....
You could very easily photo-chop an image, throw it on a memory stick and view it through your 360 (or any number of other devices connected to your HDTV) then just take a picture of your TV displaying the image
QUOTE(Slrpgeit @ May 16 2006, 12:02 PM)
Why is there CRT distortion on an LCD screen?
it has CRT distortion because... it's a CRT
I'm sure some people could come up with some convincing looking menu screens... I might try my hand when I get home from work if I'm bored enough.
Post by: DivyX on May 16, 2006, 11:18:00 AM
Oblivion in making of dvd looked like shit, look at it now.
That halo3 trailer doesn't look any good either, uninspiring and very so-so graphics.
Games usually get facelift near release, not right away or in demo stage.
Meaning... who knows... =)
Post by: sp3cialk on May 16, 2006, 11:29:00 AM
as for the screenies... I can't say if i believe them or not... I try not to build up a game in my head and then it's not what I expected... besides... with the release so far away why would they kill themselves making an awesome menu when they have more important things to test?? I'd want the absolute simplest menu in the world just to get to a game so i could test...
Post by: heraldoffailure on May 16, 2006, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: miggidy on May 16, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(DivyX @ May 16 2006, 06:25 PM)
Pics look legit. I just played motogp demo from xbl and it looked like shit. I think every1 knows graphs at early development stage isn't the priority to do.
While I'll agree that more often than not, graphics get a bump by the time a game comes out.
I thought that at this stage, the graphics in Moto GP are very good.
At least the bikers and the bikes look photorealistic.
I had my family over this weekend and everyone thought they were watching a real bike race at the first glance.
I dunno, perhaps you're gaming on a regular TV or something
Post by: chuxterofdoom on May 16, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
QUOTE(sp3cialk @ May 16 2006, 12:36 PM)
for those of you doubting just becuase of the "Y" friends button... I know I have a game (or demo) now that you can press a button to open the friends section of your guide... so don't count it out... I'm going home tonight and going through all my demos and games to figure out which it is... unless someone else knows i'll post back later...
I believe Call of Duty 2 has a button like that. So why not Halo 3?
Post by: ikecomp on May 16, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
QUOTE(schwallman @ May 16 2006, 11:20 AM)
WOW....I just cummed myself. a picture that says halo 3 on it and it has other words on it to. OMGGGGGGGGGGG. i dont think i can work the rest of the day. i got to go home and look at the picture some more. I just cant believe it. First I stubbed my big toe this morning and i thought my day was fucked. but now..............some halo 3 menu screens.
Its amazing how people get all getty with the mention of the word halo and a number.
Post by: JoBlo69 on May 16, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: Master3xBOx on May 16, 2006, 12:50:00 PM
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The user interface screen floating around the interzone right now is a fake. It's a pretty fake, but fake nonetheless. We're not going to debunk every fake we see, but that one is clogging the forums. So stop talking about it. It's fake.
From Bungie themselves. - http://www.bungie.ne...y.aspx?cid=8189
Ends that debate.
Post by: Mikeizzle on May 16, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: Pikkon on May 16, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: chuxterofdoom on May 16, 2006, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Pikkon @ May 16 2006, 02:11 PM)
The Halo 3 pictures are indeed fake,if you open up the pictures with notepad it clearly says it was made with Adobe Photoshop CS,it looks very good but its all fake.
While I don't doubt these are fake, I have trouble with the "if it has the Adobe Photoshop tag in the file then it's fake" routine.
Sure they are probably fake, but if you use PS to capture the pictures from you Digital Camera then it would give you the tags also.
Post by: Aquarillis on May 16, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
Post by: sp3cialk on May 16, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(chuxterofdoom @ May 16 2006, 03:30 PM)
While I don't doubt these are fake, I have trouble with the "if it has the Adobe Photoshop tag in the file then it's fake" routine.
Sure they are probably fake, but if you use PS to capture the pictures from you Digital Camera then it would give you the tags also.
also if you used PS to size down the original image it would have the tag as well...
Post by: MC2829 on May 16, 2006, 01:41:00 PM
Oh and for those who say "but it's on a tv!" He could've either added his photoshopped pic to his xbox 360 and was viewing it in the pictures section when he took the pic, or he burned it onto a DVD and took a pic. Doesn't take much to fake something like this, it's been done many times with Halo 2.
Post by: lilbplaya3406 on May 16, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: boxrocker on May 16, 2006, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE(Mikeizzle @ May 16 2006, 03:11 PM)
im sure Bungie will release H3 on the orginal Xbox
I wouldn't be so sure of that. MS wants people to buy the 360 and this will make them do just that.
Post by: CrystalXBOX on May 16, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Mikeizzle @ May 16 2006, 08:11 PM)
as im sure Bungie will release H3 on the orginal Xbox, so maybe its a shot of what the Xbox, H3 menu should look like.
What the guy above said. And from what I understand, MS Studios is no longer producing *any* XBOX 1 titles, only third party.
Post by: mitch2025 on May 16, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
Post by: Himura on May 16, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Mikeizzle @ May 16 2006, 03:16 PM)
Really?, i donno man, i have alot of freinds who would be dissatifyied if Halo 3 diden't come out for orgional Xbox as well as 360. Not unless they knock the price of the 360 down to about $250-$300, they'd loose a large chunk of their fanbase.... er... millions of people who bought the first two games, if they did that. And i really dont think Bungie would allow Miicrosoft to screw them over like that, and not be able to relese it on the two systems.
Well why would they produce for the original xbox if theyre trying to make sales for the 360 by using a highly anticipated game like Halo 3? If people want it bad enough, then they WILL buy a 360.
It has also been stated that Halo 3 will try to use the full potential of the 360.
And also, Bungie is owned my M$, so they would have to have them allow it.
EDIT: And I also have A LOT of friends who have been waiting on Halo 3 just to BUY a 360.
Post by: sp3cialk on May 16, 2006, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Mikeizzle @ May 16 2006, 06:16 PM)
Really?, i donno man, i have alot of freinds who would be dissatifyied if Halo 3 diden't come out for orgional Xbox as well as 360. Not unless they knock the price of the 360 down to about $250-$300, they'd loose a large chunk of their fanbase.... er... millions of people who bought the first two games, if they did that. And i really dont think Bungie would allow Miicrosoft to screw them over like that, and not be able to relese it on the two systems.
Get in the now.... it's next gen... I can't remember how many times the hosts from X-play and ATOS on the live at E3 kept saying how they weren't as impressed with the new titles coming out for current gen... it just wasn't cutting it anymore...
Post by: MC2829 on May 16, 2006, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: tonloc79 on May 16, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on May 16, 2006, 05:45:00 PM
QUOTE(mitch2025 @ May 16 2006, 03:09 PM)
it could be real or fake. that TV is used at E3 alot and the pic could have been taken while they were showing the halo3 trailer thing (while showing people that it wasnt prerendered and stuff). another thing. why the hell are some of you saying "it cant be real because bungie wouldnt release a menu that looks like that"? look at the halo2 beta menues. they look like SHIT. just a blue background with some stuff around the middle. this very well could be real but it also could be fake
How many times do we have to tell people this is fake. Confirmed by Bungie as fake, as in not real.
Post by: schwallman on May 16, 2006, 06:02:00 PM
QUOTE(ikecomp @ May 16 2006, 07:17 PM)
Its amazing how people get all getty with the mention of the word halo and a number.if you took this as me giving two shits about halo 3, your wrong. i was over reacting like most on this thread over some screens. who gives a shit about a title menu??? when i turn on a game, i dont really get all that emotional about the title screen
Post by: Mr_Milenko on May 16, 2006, 07:12:00 PM
Post by: Mikeizzle on May 16, 2006, 07:28:00 PM
QUOTE(tonloc79 @ May 16 2006, 07:19 PM)
Whoever started the idea that H3 would be released for the Xbox is severely retarded(up a few posts). MS is trying to phase out the Xbox and focus 100% on the 360. They want to be the leader and the Xbox is a lost cause, Sony got out way too far ahead. H3 is 360 only, cmon!
Hey, how about if call you a retard you fuck. I diden't know if they were going to rls it on both consoles or not. I only thought they'd release Halo 3 on the Xbox cause' they're still releasing alot of titles on to it and i remember back when the 360 was released they said they'd still be releasing titles for Xbox through 2007. So excuse ME for just making a logical conclusion based on what i know. Dick.
Post by: ikecomp on May 16, 2006, 07:33:00 PM
QUOTE(schwallman @ May 16 2006, 07:09 PM)
if you took this as me giving two shits about halo 3, your wrong. i was over reacting like most on this thread over some screens. who gives a shit about a title menu??? when i turn on a game, i dont really get all that emotional about the title screen
I was actully laughing at your post and agreeing with you how people get overexcited for nothing just because the word halo is in the title
Post by: Serious Sam on May 16, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
Especially Mikeizzle
Post by: spinr34 on May 17, 2006, 01:30:00 PM
Post by: GOVATENT on May 17, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
Post by: tonloc79 on May 17, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Mikeizzle @ May 17 2006, 02:35 AM)
Hey, how about if call you a retard you fuck. I diden't know if they were going to rls it on both consoles or not. I only thought they'd release Halo 3 on the Xbox cause' they're still releasing alot of titles on to it and i remember back when the 360 was released they said they'd still be releasing titles for Xbox through 2007. So excuse ME for just making a logical conclusion based on what i know. Dick.
Heres a virtual tissue to wipe your tears! Now your not only a retard but a cry baby too! Ask a dumbass question and get called on it, thats just how it is! Plus i never even mentioned you but your quick to jump when i use the word retarded(did you just admit to being retarded)! I mean no offense to someone who is mentaly challenged. Heres a little tid bit of info for you to since "alot of games are still being released for the Xbox", games take years to develop so yes games will still come out for 1-2 years more on Xbox, thought that was common sense. Just cause the 360 came out and MS is shying away from the Xbox doesnt mean that all game developers will just throw what they have been working on in the trash. Halo 3 for the Xbox
. you kill me! PS im glad you think that your thoughts were logical! PS2 use spellcheck son! Also if your trying to push the 360 why would MS release H3 on the Xbox? Then you wouldnt need to purchase a 360 to play it!
Post by: NotZero on May 18, 2006, 02:55:00 AM
Post by: tonloc79 on May 18, 2006, 06:22:00 AM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ May 18 2006, 08:23 AM)
That above post was useless. If i were a mod, i'd warn u for flaming...
But a post brown nosing the mods is usefull?
QUOTE
Heres a little tid bit of info for you to since "alot of games are still being released for the Xbox", games take years to develop so yes games will still come out for 1-2 years more on Xbox, thought that was common sense. Just cause the 360 came out and MS is shying away from the Xbox doesnt mean that all game developers will just throw what they have been working on in the trash
Id say that my post was usefull info sandwiched between retaliation. He flew off the handle and i just returned the serve. Either way it doesnt matter, H3 will not see the Xbox and thats what i was trying to explain.
NotZero is right, most of the posts are useless, its not necassarily a technical section of the forums. Relax a lil, have some fun!
Post by: lostboyz on June 29, 2006, 05:27:00 AM
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