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Title: Are Games Not As Fun As They Used To Be To You?
Post by: jop12 on January 13, 2006, 10:07:00 PM

So like most people, they used to play all the time, and now wondering why the hell is it so hard to enjoy games as much? Do you believe its because of the growing load times, since almost all games started out on cartridges, like N64, Gameboy, Sega's games, etc... What do you think? ''

ps i think long load times is like reading a long pointless paragragh in a book.

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Post by: Mick Garvey on January 13, 2006, 10:42:00 PM

I think this is because of a lack of interest in the newer games. Back when NES was out and SNES was coming out there were MAJOR breakthroughs in software and hoardware. I loved those days so much, all the new original games, now the only thing that seems to change is the graphics... This is partially why I will be getting a Revolution as it will have some new innovative ideas not just better graphics.

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Post by: []-[]ooDLu[]v[] on January 13, 2006, 10:50:00 PM

man i feel the same way too...i remember u could play any game and enjoi everytime...now-a-days we expect so much outta games that the game industry cant keep up...

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Post by: Gbeav on January 13, 2006, 11:12:00 PM

I think it's because games have not become more inovative, just more realist as far as gfx go. All you see is people saying "it looks great". When the truth is a game can look crappy and still be fun. This generation of consoles might be a big flop gamewise unless someone comes up with some new ideas.

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Post by: CattyKid on January 13, 2006, 11:25:00 PM

QUOTE(Gbeav @ Jan 14 2006, 01:19 AM)

A-freakin-men. I hear you. Do you know what game I love? Kirby's Dreamland for the NES (I own that game, but for some reason couldn't get an Xbox NES emu to play it, weird). It's just plain fun.
I might bust out the NES and play for a while.

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Post by: mgamer20o0 on January 13, 2006, 11:36:00 PM

i think this can be said about almost anything. when we first do something nothing that comes after that can live up to it. what i try to do in games and movies is find something diffrent. it might not be the A+++ titles or even something you want play long or watch again. for me this helps a lot so it doesnt feel like i am playing or watching the same thing over again.

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Post by: mathias on January 13, 2006, 11:44:00 PM

personally I think this is the reason why xbox live has become such a big hit.... and nintendo is following suit...

I think being able to play your video game classics with online multiplayer and chat is just sweet

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Post by: hamwbone on January 14, 2006, 01:59:00 AM

the one reason i will never sell my xbox - emulation. akari warriors all the way. i think you really have to put what next gen means on the table. people keep thinking next gen means the end of all and as good as it can get. the sublte details that seperate the 360 from the xbox is where next gen is. this isnt the end folks. its all about ambiance and the surroundings. its going to get better on the 360 and the ps3, and you will be blown away. but you cant expect realism, the consoles cant stop here. we have a long road ahead. the switch from 2d to 3d was drastic. mind boggling in a few words. but whats after 3d? time will tell, and thats all we have got. hang in there.

ham bone

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Post by: Kernal69er on January 14, 2006, 07:24:00 AM

QUOTE(Lunar Aura @ Jan 14 2006, 01:11 AM)

Getting older and growing up. Expectations rise and we get nostalgic. That's all there is to it. If we played games of today in the past, the fun factor imo would be the same (or more).

Approaching 2 decades of videogaming would do that to a person. It takes that much more to impress us. And graphics, believe it or not, are becoming less important.

Lunar is 100% right, if it was like 15-20 years ago would be different, you would love them all (even though you would porbably only have 1 or 2, since no $$) Let's face it when we were kids there was no interent and lots of people didn't even have computers, 486 was sweet..... Now a days my 7 year old nephew has a 3.2GHZ PC to himself and knows more than I do... We all have more and more expectations,, we find a game that plays good and great grpahics but complain about framerate. Or a game with poor graphics.. Dammit back in the day we didn't even care about graphics

Anyone remeber 3 on 3 NES ICE HOCKEY or Blades Of Steel,,,,, lol

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Post by: alsybub on January 14, 2006, 01:15:00 PM

I think it's partly to do with growing up and also that games used to be simple and addictive. Now games are 'epics' with huge story lines which you can generally only fully enjoy in 1 play through. Re-play value these days is incentivised with extra costuimes, weapons, backdrops etc. etc. it no longer seems to be many games that you just can't stop playing because it is so addictive. The most addictive games of this nature recently for me were Katamari Damacy and Lumines. That's not a lot considering in the same periond of time since Katamari Damacy 1 was released I have probably bought about 30 games and played even more.

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Post by: Altima NEO on January 14, 2006, 02:05:00 PM

Yeah, so true.

I think one of the reasons Ive been liking DOA4 so much is because of its difficulty.

I remember back in the day of NES and SNES, games were FU*KING HARD! Rush'n Attack, Contra, Silver Surfer, Ninja Turtles III, Mario Kart, Super Metroid, etc. These games where a pain in the ass, and it made it fun. It was a challenge to beat the game. The games couldnt rely on graphics, cuz there were none!

These days, you get recycled gameplay taken from other games, with only graphical updates (if at all) or just same game, with different levels.

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Post by: langlest on January 14, 2006, 02:35:00 PM

i can only speak for myself here but i think its down to piracy, i downloaded all my xbox and ps2 games and found that i was only playing them for about 5mins then going onto the next game i had downloaded, im enjoying games more now i have started buying them again but not as much as i did before i started downloading. i have decided that im never gonna mod my 360 now unless there are some good emulators available & even then im not gonna download any games

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Post by: hamwbone on January 14, 2006, 05:35:00 PM

QUOTE(langlest @ Jan 14 2006, 10:42 PM)

you know i was almost going tos say something along those lines. but the i remebered i payed 60$ for perfect dark zero and i cont stomach playing it. i love FPS's, but this game feels like chunky poop.

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Post by: hardcandy on January 14, 2006, 07:16:00 PM

1. Sex- and spending time with significant others
2. Mobility- a car, especially.
3. More money,and/or less time- work, more homework, etc
These all add up to more energy going to real life games.
Ill bet the 10 to 15 year olds are still enjoying the games like we used to enjoy them.
One thing though, theyll never have Win95/98 with starting up Unreal, Quake 1, Diablo, Half Life the first time, or the time we started up Halo on the Xbox. We had that.

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Post by: dante327 on January 14, 2006, 09:51:00 PM

QUOTE(langlest @ Jan 14 2006, 10:42 PM)

lol same here...when i first got a modded ps2 and xbox i downloaded like 90 games each and only played each one for like 20 minutes at a time. now that i have an unmodded 360 im all into the games and actually playing them till finish. piracy killed my gaming experience i think, and i wont do it anymore, its just not as fun when you have tons of free games, dont ask me y???

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Post by: Deftech on January 15, 2006, 02:05:00 PM

Anyone that dislikes EA is good in my book! lol

I love games as much as I have in the past, for the most part. I also agree that too many are relying on the online mayhem aspect. Halo 2, perfect example in my case. The story was junk(opinion), and I didnt buy it for the online play, so into the shitter that went.

Thats why Im excited about Gears of War. Specifically made for SP and Coop play, the story revolves around it.

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Post by: hamwbone on January 15, 2006, 02:39:00 PM

i think i played halo 2 for one week... sucked

/goes back to the 12 hour battlefied 2 marathon...

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Post by: m_hael on January 15, 2006, 02:43:00 PM

I got bored of "Generic FPS with spangly new "funky" tech but no new gameplay, hyped to death in every mag & forum"... none have fulfilled since System Shock II.

games that don't hype and lie about their gameplay don't piss me off and I often enjoy them...

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Post by: Deftech on January 15, 2006, 03:10:00 PM

QUOTE(HELLTICK @ Jan 15 2006, 04:47 PM)

Yeah, I hear you guys...I guess its just getting old. My first computer was a commodore 64 which had tons of fun games 'jumpman jr' being one of my fav's.

whoa!

now theres a blast from the past! I havent thought about or played that for 20 years!

ahh to be a kid again

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Post by: jaygould30 on January 15, 2006, 11:44:00 PM

I've felt this way for a long time as many of you have. I think the real killer of fun for me was when the dreamcast did so poorly. I always felt like Sega was always really creative and was never afraid to do something different and that even stands true today. They just don't have as much say anymore in the industry. You all have already talked about all the points of why games just don't feel as fun anymore so I'll just add to the pile. To me the industry has decided to try and please the "mature" gamer to greatly. The amount of FPS, Fighters, Racing, and other blood/sex/car type games greatly exceeds the "everyone" type games. Most of the games that I've loved over the years were not those types of games but instead were the more childish games. Thats not to say that those games shouldn't be made...but rather that they shouldn't be such a main focus. Gamers need choice and variety. Games have become to serious. Yes games were always serious to people but it just isn't the same as now. People take it as life and death and by doing this it becomes like a job not a game. And as stated before graphics seems to be all anyone cares about anymore. Actually realistic graphics is what they are worried about. One of my favorite games in the last 2 years was Viewtiful Joe because of the gameplay and innovative style. This exact topic is why I will always support Nintendo because I feel if we lose them then there will be no more innovative gameplay just more realistic games. Yes I am nostalgic like many but I don't think it is correct to use that term to act as if it's our fault that games made years ago are without a doubt more innovative and more fun to play then games today. With the 360 I'm feeling a little better about the future of gaming. Online play is a great thing to bring back some fun. But I think the greatest thing I see from them is when looking at their game lineup I see much more balance in the types of games. For instance games like Blue Dragon (which is probably the game I'm most looking forward too) is a game I would never have imagined being developed on the xbox. But to be honest I don't see the industy ever getting back to the way it was when they actually had to work to make enough money just to get bye. Basically they are already so high up that they have no reason to take risks anymore and will continue to stick to the winning formula. I think if the industy is going to see any major innovation it is going to have to be from something major. What I'd like to see is Sega get back into the game with a new console. I know it is wishful thinking but I feel deep in my gut that when the time is right they are going to strike back big time. Of course this could just be me dreaming but I don't see why they couldn't. We all know they are capable of it and if they wait long enough they will have a huge nostalga thing going for them. I'd bet that everyone in here would get one. Same thing with companies like atari and such. Basically what I'm saying is it's going to have to be either (1.) a game developer who gets tired of watching the industry sit at a stand still, or (2.) a new company that has enough drive and isn't going to take any shit and is willing to take risks. Like I said this is just how I feel and I just felt like adding onto the pile. Take it for what its worth.

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Post by: mgamer20o0 on January 16, 2006, 01:38:00 AM

it would be nice if sega would come out with a new system but i dont think that will happen. i was glad when they said they were going to just be making games. i figured at lest i would still be able to play there games. where did they go? they havent published much more then sports and developed even less. sega is a company ms should buy up throw a bunch of money at in hopes of them coming up with something great.

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Post by: Legendary Badass on January 16, 2006, 04:38:00 AM

I've told people for years that the more difficult games are the old ones. Look at it like this. In Super Mario Bros. Mario could run out of time, touch and enemy, fall off a cliff; and each of these things will make you start the level over. Granted the levels were shorter then, but now you have a much easier path through a game. 3-D movement makes avoiding obsticles a little too easy at times. I find that as time goes by, more games get made for the people that are only ok at games, and that leaves the experts feeling unsatisfied.

There are other furstating measures that cause me to like games less than I used to. Like getting online only to hear some 10 year old cursing. Or loosing rank, on a game that you are proud of. Heck I've avoided some games out of fear that I would de-rank thanks to some sort of useless teammates.

Back when I was a kid we didn't have a disliking for a developer. Some were great like Konami and Rare. While Ultra was not so good, we didn't feel a hatred for them. Now, I actually avoid some publishers because the history is long enough that you know the game will be a mistake to play.

I also think that games are crossing a line I never expected. I started gaming in the 80's. Back in the 80's you could shoot a lot of bad guys and no one really cared. Then in 93 Mortal Kombat's much hyped use of blood causes parents to get concerned. I never really cared about how violent games were because they weren't real life and anyone with sense knows better. I had been playing games for a long time, but from 01 to 03 I was a little out of the loop. When I return to gaming I find that all of a sudden you have games using the F-word, characters that are prostitutes, and in general more sex than I'd prefer to see. I have a bit of a problem with this because it doesn't really add to the gameplay, it just causes media ruckus and on top of that I think it reflects were our society is heading. Mortal Kombat's blood didn't add anything to the gameplay, but I now see that it was a gateway that opened the door to material that I actually object to.

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Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 16, 2006, 09:41:00 AM

My two cents on this topic:

We're now in our third decade of games. My first console was the Atari 2600 back when I was 6 somewhere in 1983. That makes me a 24 year old expert! I truly think that we expect more out of games. I have two nephews 4 and 5 years old, and I got to see them during the holidays. They were playing Spider Man for the Nintendo Gameboy, I was amazed on how many hours this kids were playing the same boring level over and over again. I actually tried it and I gave up after five minutes of not being able to make all four pizza deliveries before time ran out.

Back then we were all like that. I would replay a level over and over again because it was either the only game I had or had all the time in the world to try and do it. Now a days I can't stand to replay the same level more than three times I would rather move on to other games. I have yet to beat any of the 6 games that I bought since I purchased the 360 on day 1. For example on Friday night I played need for speed most wanted, I'm currently third in the blacklist and need to complete a nine minute cop chase without getting caught for me to be able to challenge the #2 racer in the blacklist. After an hour of playing it I was not able to accomplish the goal, I kept getting caught every time. I was so frustrated that I though about returning the freaking game the next morning, I wanted to log online and find a cheat to beat the game, I felt that I wasted and hour of my life without accomplishing nothing since I did not get any further in the game. The emotions that I went thru Friday night of pure dissapointment are not felt by a young gamer like we were back in the day.

I guess now we want a sense of accomplishment more quicker than in our hay day, now that we all have our own goals, jobs, money and other toys to play with we feel that time is taken from us if we don't accomplish a game in certain amount of time. I do think our mindsets and needs are way more differen then back when we were young bucs playing this games.

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Post by: twistedsymphony on January 16, 2006, 11:03:00 AM

QUOTE(Gbeav @ Jan 14 2006, 01:19 AM)

... This generation of consoles might be a big flop gamewise unless someone comes up with some new ideas.

I couldn't DISAGREE more...

While I agree whole heartedly with just about everyone in this thread, we're aging gamers and our attention spans are growing shorter. The game companies are delivering more realism and less fantasy... yes yes yes.

Unfortunately I don't see it changing, in terms of gameplay and innovation vs graphics and realism it's going to get worse before it gets better.

The thing is despite our (as in the people in this thread) cries for more innovation, the "gamer" at large doesn't care. The gamer at large doesn't support Nintendo, they never owned a dreamcast, and that last version of madden released was the best game ever because it's football and they like football and it's got the latest roster.

If gamers truly wanted the innovation we're asking for here, then the market would be dying right now, but it's not, actually the video game market is the biggest it's ever been, and making the most money it's ever made. Because all the crap that we say we hate... is what is actually selling.

on a different note I don't know that I fully agree that games are less innovative now... We're looking at all the generic titles that have been released recently and comparing them to the highlights over several decades of classic gaming. Take a slice of time, I'll give you a whole year, "back in the day" and give me a list of the worthwhile games that came out in that time frame. Not to mention there were literally 100s of knock-offs of the popular titles that were just pure TRASH. There were about 7000 games made for the NES throughout it's live span, most of you never even played a whole 1% because less then 5% was worth playing. Contrast that to the PSX which only had about 900 titles in it's life span. Sega consoles had even less. Both that Saturn and the Dreamcast had less then 400 each. I can name just as many if not more DC titles I enjoyed then NES titles I enjoyed when I was young.

Back in the day every game was a side-scrolling platformer.... now every game is an FPS... it's just evolution, 2D graphics lend themselves well to platformers, 3D graphics lend themselves to FPSs.

If you're really looking for innovation, innovative titles are still being released, but they're met by such apathy by the buying public that anything other then the sequel to the last generic hit release is a death sentence for developers and publishers...

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Post by: Sweenerdog32 on January 16, 2006, 01:51:00 PM

I think it's mainly because the companies are becoming increasingly agressive in sales and marketing. It's (mostly) Sony and MS battling it out over who can generate the most sales. This leads to the companies releasing sub-par games in order to make a quick buck. I've got my fair share of FPS's for this gen (except for Black, it looks amazing

), and I'm looking for different genres.

I recently aquired King Kong for the Xbox, and it is amazingly refreshing. It may be a FPS, but it is an FPS with a difference. It combines elements of puzzle solving, shooting, and basically how fast you can run. Then there's Kong (it?)self. This changes the whole perspective of the game, rectracting to third person, and moving over to the 3D fighter side of things.

Another great innovative title is Stubbs the Zombie. Even if it was a little short, it was a different game. It was great fun to eat people's brains, instead of shooting them. They used the Halo engine, designed for FPS, and changed it into something completely different.

Even though I will be purchasing an Xbox360, I am becoming increasingly interested with the Revolution, becasue (as the name suggests) it is changing the way we look at gaming. (Just look at the controller.

Interesting...)

Phew....

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Post by: Vinestrike77 on January 16, 2006, 02:55:00 PM

QUOTE(acidsnow @ Jan 16 2006, 10:18 AM)

I believe new generation of games require more thinking. Honestly when I come home from a long day of work I kinda want to unwind and play a game that doesn't require much thought. For example back in the day it used to be Pac-Man, Super Mario Brothers, ect . . . Don't get me wrong I still love an analynically challanging game, but only on the weekends . . .

Acidsnow you hit it right in the nail when it comes to analytical thinking. Sometimes I have time to play a couple of hours after work but just to think that I have to do more thinking after a hard day at the office makes me stay away from playing and just unwine with some wine and watch commercials.

I'm a corporate financial accountant so I'll I want to do when I come home is to not think about numbers and to have to play a game that involves critical thinking or decision making games makes me hold off until I have a clearer mindset.

That's why I enjoy a good Geometry Wars during the weekday to unwind and shoot Geometrical Lines like crazy. Nothing better than an accountant unwinding by shooting the shit out of a quadrant filled with geometrical signs.

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Post by: HELLTICK on January 16, 2006, 07:02:00 PM

QUOTE

We're looking at all the generic titles that have been released recently and comparing them to the highlights over several decades of classic gaming.

Hey Twisted, I agree tolally but doesnt "several" refer to seven? like 'couple' is two, and 'few' is four.
You havent really been play'n vids for 7 decades...have you? <jk>

QUOTE

There were about 7000 games made for the NES throughout it's live span, most of you never even played a whole 1% because less then 5% was worth playing.

Yes, but atleast if smart at the time you could return the game and choose a better title without ANY hassle...nowadays if opened, they treat you like a criminal returning gaming software.

QUOTE

As mentioned....you nailed it.

Later!

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Post by: Jason9875 on January 16, 2006, 07:29:00 PM

C&C games had to be the best I ever played.

Though I will say that I loved Doom 3, Unreal Tournament 2004 I cannot put down, DoW pwns, CoD 2 was fun while it lasted, and WoW has me addicted beyond any other game.

Though I will say that Half Life 2 sucked nuts, WHO EVER THOUGHT THAT UNSKIPABLE CUT SCENES ARE A GOOD IDEA SHOULD BE KILLED. Though its mods such as Source Forts, The Hidden, Goldeneye Source, Battle Grounds, Dystopia, and Garrys mod are awesome.

And as for Star Wars Empire at War, I WILL BUY THAT GAME THE FIRST CHANCE I GET!

Finally a, hopefully, great Star Wars RTS.

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Post by: adfinder23 on January 16, 2006, 09:01:00 PM

QUOTE(HELLTICK @ Jan 16 2006, 09:09 PM)

Hey Twisted, I agree tolally but doesnt "several" refer to seven? like 'couple' is two, and 'few' is four.
You havent really been play'n vids for 7 decades...have you? <jk>

No, several does not mean seven it just means more than 3, but not too much more. So 4,5,6,7,8 could all be counted as several. Since gaming began for the most part in the 70's, several works.

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Post by: hamwbone on January 16, 2006, 11:13:00 PM

about the comming home from work and just playing a fun- non thinking game, i think that might be what it is, and why geometry wars is so fun =)

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Post by: Mjkthirdeye on January 17, 2006, 12:22:00 PM

I think its because the companies that make most of todays games, make them to make money. They just aren't making them as great because the main motivation is money, not a fantastic story or plot. They think they can just take any generic idea and throw money at it to improve the graphics and such and that will make it a great game. It just doesn't work that way. As with any great medium, such as music, movies, and such the thing that makes it great is pouring the heart and soul into it, not just throwing money at it. The movie industry nowadays is the exact same. It's a "all about the money following the trend" scenario, not the "WOW this a fantastic story, but thats not what the people want because we want the money not the exuberent audience" scenario

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Post by: Master X on January 17, 2006, 05:43:00 PM

The games that I enjoyed on N64 were Goldeneye, Conkey, and another racing game that I cant remember the name but RARE made it. Halo 2 is an awesome game I think and Halo 3 is going to be the next great game for next gen systems.

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Post by: deftonesmx17 on January 18, 2006, 12:56:00 PM

Most games are not as fun as they used to be for many reasons.

It seems like there are more movies and less gameplay in many games today.

Controls have become very complex, in many cases, this can have a negative impact on the gameplay.

Graphics have become one of the most important parts of games today.

The worst problem of all, copycat games.

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Post by: LowProfileWurm on January 18, 2006, 01:15:00 PM

QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jan 18 2006, 03:03 PM)

I'll agree with these reasons, for the most part.

I think cutscenes can help push a story along as long as they are there to show part of the story that you wouldn't otherwise be able to incorporate into gameplay. I always thought Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden had good cutscenes... especially after furious fights with bad guys. "Thumb resters".

Control schemes have become incredibly difficult to learn. I think that's why I love Geo Wars so much. 3 control buttons. It's also the reason I love driving games. What's easier than brake and accelerate? I'm not saying that I can't handle complex motions, it's just not so much fun memorizing button combos or configurations just to have a little "fun". If I'm kicking ass on DOA online, then yeah, combos must be learned, but that's the nature of the beast.

I'm still out to lunch on graphics. I think they are important, second only to mechanics of gameplay (ie. control). But the whore in me doesn't want to look at nasty images. Especially not when I know it could be better.

Unfortunately, I think the gaming industry has suffered the same affliction that ALL industries succumb to... the fast buck. If they can't make the most money out of a safe formula, they don't want to invest. Medicine, transportation, etc... all want to see immediate returns with a minimum amount of risk. And unfortunately, that means the money-makers (FPS's, Racing, & Fighting) are all top-tier. This also means that the innovative games are often crowded out by the over-hyped, over-advertised garbage that the big companies regurgitate. Honestly, the only way I forsee this trend changing is with some kind of vehicle to allow independent developers access to many gamers without much investment. And I believe that vehicle is XBLA. If MS opens up the XBLA to allow "homebrew" games (but still certified by MS), I can easily see developer minds changing. You can equate it to Hollywood. They make crap. But once in a while, an independent film comes out that really twists Hollywood's nipples. And then the game starts over. I want to see that happen in video games.

I can't believe I just agreed with deftones...

Oh, and

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Post by: deftonesmx17 on January 18, 2006, 01:35:00 PM

At least you understood the points I was making. Graphics, I'm 100% happy with anything but jaggies and glitches.

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Post by: cyberg4 on January 18, 2006, 02:24:00 PM

To me it somewhat feels like that, but when you look at it, the whole case of the fun factor of games decreasing so much is age. When you are 5-7 you will accept almost anything that comes your way, be it uniracers, or the donkey kong country series, (I really enjoyed a motorcycle game for the snes that was 3d, i think it was something like motoextreme FX). While several still are good (mainly the 2D sidescrollers as we haven't seen many since the snes), a game like motoracer FX (not sure of the name) suck compared to today's standards, and are no fun at all. As well there is the issue of money/number of games people buy. for the SNES I got approximately 2 games per year, aquireing 8 or 9 over the console's lifetime. with the N64 I increased the amount of games bought annually to 3-4 ammassing a collection of 13-15 N64 games. But come the Xbox, I had much more money which I could spend, (and I started to check out the previously played sections of some stores, and pawnshops) and ammassed a collection of 50 games for the original Xbox. While in the SNES and N64 era I completely passed every game multiple times, I only completely passed a few games completely on the xbox. finally It is not like games today are worse than the ones on the N64 ors SNES, it's our expectations for them have gotten higher. It is not like Tony Hawk 7 (american wateland) is worse than Tony Hawk 1 when speaking in modern terms, a side by side comparison, but for it's time Tony Hawk 1 was awesome, and Tony Hawk 7 in it's time (now) is pathetic. Games aren't getting worse, our expectations for them are getting higher.

Title: Are Games Not As Fun As They Used To Be To You?
Post by: Optics2k3 on January 18, 2006, 02:39:00 PM

boy after reading this topic it kinda makes me laugh how true it is,everyone is mostly buying the 360 just because of graphics and such, and to be honest i will never mod it either because im actucally beating games instead of never touching them again if i copied them... must be a psycological thing.. but i will tell everyone something, i can remember from grade 6-11 playing diablo 2 and the expansion almost everyday for hours, and even if i quit and a new patch came out, or i got banned or something i always went back, or bought a new copy... hell that game was like crack... just something about it i guess.. too bad they couldnt remake some of the old games and put it on 360 or something... but i think they should start to take ports from the pc and toss it on the new box... i kno half life 2 came out for xbox.. but if it was for 360 and had CSS or DODS hands down it would kill ps3 and revolution... lil side note but wasnt there a picture way back when 360 was first announced that valve was making hl3 for 360? dont call me nuts or luagh but it was in a picture... hopefully someone can link it... neways justm y 2 cents

Title: Are Games Not As Fun As They Used To Be To You?
Post by: hamwbone on January 18, 2006, 10:14:00 PM

-OT_

any body seen the that tshirt with the NES cartridge on it that has an arrow pointing the the opening and says - BLOW ME

i almost died when i saw that

Title: Are Games Not As Fun As They Used To Be To You?
Post by: akyros on January 19, 2006, 01:40:00 AM

doa4,quake4,pd0,pgr3,nfsmw,ridger6!

its not just us,geting bored of the same-o same-o,just look at the launch titles of the next gen.
a bunch of sequals,not a single new idea,(ok condemned is an exeption)

easy ideas for an easy new audience maybe?

Title: Are Games Not As Fun As They Used To Be To You?
Post by: KLoNe on January 19, 2006, 04:15:00 AM

You know what I think has killed gaming?

That work that you have heard so much over the years: "kiddie".

It is now 'uncool' to like Nintendo, as they are "kiddie". You are know uncool and "kiddie" if you don't own all the killing/bloody/sex/car games.

It's a real shame. I really hope BIG N can come through with the Revolution.

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