Just because they are first releasing it for xbox 360 dosn't mean the xbox is a better system it just means ID thinks xbox 360 is more profitable of market compared to pc's right now. Pc's always have the edge because a console is just that a pc with limitations. So keep dreaming that the xbox 360 is better what do you think they are going to release the game for pc with lower res textures and shitty lighting effects like pc games on the xbox?
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GI: We heard that John Carmack likes the 360, we heard that at Quakecon. Do you think more traditional PC developers will fell the same way?
Moore: Dev-love. I have heard this from a ton of people like Bill Gates. We help the best that we can. Tools, advance technology, group onsite helping you get up and running. You talk to any developer that develops for Xbox, PlayStation and GameCube and who gives you Dev-love, its us. Its what we do. The fundamental business platform for MS is to build a platform that companies can build applications on. The games business is no different. You invest billions of dollars to the divisions of the EAs and Ubisofts of this world. The middleware, the tools and the onsite teams that are like SWAT teams around the world. If you have a problem getting on Xbox Live, were there to fix it. When John Carmack says that there are more tools on the Xbox 360 than the PC, its a big frickin deal to me. I have a great deal of respect for what John Carmack does.
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GI: Is XNA involved in any games that are out there? Will we see more of XNA?
J Allard: I think youve seen a couple of things. Certainly the XNA studio project thats coming out next is going to have a bigger impact. Its going to have more influence on how people are designing their games. Were having marginal impact right now. The way that we approach the game controller, for example, we got the controller up and running on PC first. Were using a derivative of the input. Weve got the audio tools that we put together for Xbox 360 use a combination of PC and Xbox. So you can actually audition the audio locally on your PC so sound designers have studios that dont have an Xbox dev kit. They were able to get more progress made in the audio space as final hardware was coming out. So little things like that. Mostly Id say that its little wins right now and the bigger wins are coming out in the future. All that said, John Carmack in the video last night said, Finally theres a console system that has better design tools than PC. Im trusting the future of what built my company, Wolfenstein, to Xbox 360 as a primary development platform. It says something, that were doing something right in the software space. But Im not complacent about it at all. I consider that a little win.
Caste Wolfenstein 360 Video
I believe this is the only video availble. Carmack says some flattering things about the XeDX here.
lol, I like how when they show of all the different versions of Wolfestein, they left out that horrible port to PS2, Operation Ressurection.
QUOTE(devguy @ Oct 11 2005, 10:03 AM)
Caste Wolfenstein 360 Video
Honestly I don't understand how you guys have so much respect for sequel factory developers, yet are the same people who make fun of $ony and EA for being sequel factories. I hate to break the news, but you xbox fanboys act just as ignorant (if not more because you are arrogant) than PS fanboys.
So yay another Wolfenstein, I bet there will be another DOOM, since if you look at history there hzas been many. As for Cliffy, I bet he will make another million Unreal Games.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 11 2005, 01:37 PM)
Honestly I don't understand how you guys have so much respect for sequel factory developers, yet are the same people who make fun of $ony and EA for being sequel factories. I hate to break the news, but you xbox fanboys act just as ignorant (if not more because you are arrogant) than PS fanboys.
QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 11 2005, 01:41 PM)
sorry, not going to feed your desires and get into a war of words with you, but you just stated why he likes it better. 1 reason is all it takes. Thanks for that
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 11 2005, 06:37 PM)
Honestly I don't understand how you guys have so much respect for sequel factory developers, yet are the same people who make fun of $ony and EA for being sequel factories. I hate to break the news, but you xbox fanboys act just as ignorant (if not more because you are arrogant) than PS fanboys.
QUOTE(Ozy @ Oct 11 2005, 01:50 PM)
I hear you. I'm starting to feel uncomfortable in these forums now as I don't think that every 360 game is groundbreaking.
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 11 2005, 07:03 PM)
not every game is meant to be groundbreaking, thats not thinking realistically. personally i can care less about the actual game as i care more about the support. as long as sony keeps spewing there shit and the zombies eat it up, i will celebrate any announcement that goes to prove them wrong. with the words that sony has said about our xbox 1.5, that is where the true arrogants is in this industry
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 11 2005, 07:37 PM)
Honestly I don't understand how you guys have so much respect for sequel factory developers, yet are the same people who make fun of $ony and EA for being sequel factories.

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 11 2005, 02:03 PM)
not every game is meant to be groundbreaking, thats not thinking realistically. personally i can care less about the actual game as i care more about the support. as long as sony keeps spewing there shit and the zombies eat it up, i will celebrate any announcement that goes to prove them wrong. with the words that sony has said about our xbox 1.5, that is where the true arrogants is in this industry
This wont be a port this time so dont expect a quake 4 ordeal.
360 1st, PC second for this title.
I believe so Yes, and good example.
QUOTE(miggidy @ Oct 11 2005, 02:32 PM)
I don't know about you but I will take a professional's words over a fanboy's any day! However in the end, actions speak louder than words. Fanboys will say whatever they "choose" and developers can say what ever they want. The games will speak for themselves

QUOTE(miggidy @ Oct 11 2005, 02:42 PM)
Anyways, Kojima's taking a vacation from the MGS series after MGS4.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 11 2005, 07:14 PM)
I would like to say its nice to know some of you people are not brain dead M$ zombies.

to those few
QUOTE(Ozy @ Oct 11 2005, 02:05 PM)
That's where you and me differ. I don't give a shit about marketing, only the quality of the games.
ahem...
Sony fanboys, MS fanboys, who the fudge cares?
This is a Wolfenstein thread, let's get back on topic.
QUOTE(devguy @ Oct 11 2005, 11:02 PM)
ahem...
as for id, have much respect for them cause doom 2 and quake 3 (fuck that, the whole series) are a few of my favs of all time. As for raven, havent played any games from them yet so i wont judge them.
I dunno bout what def said about arrogance but i know this: there is a difference between confidence and arrogance; confidence is just arrogance but surrounded by facts and not the bullshit (I would try to sound more eloquent but i dont really give a fuck right now) so i can honestly say im confident that the 360 will be the best.
Statements like Carmack's just makes me more confident.
Well seeing as Sony doesn't have a console I can't really see which is going to be the best.
QUOTE(incognegro @ Oct 12 2005, 10:27 AM)
lol............typical deftones......
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my problem is that because of what sony has said some people discredit the 360 as a powerful platform while MS has done nothing to say that the ps3 isnt powerful.
I have no doubt that the 360 is a powerful machine. Hell, I love ATI and know for a fact that they make great GPU's. Just like you have a problem with people discrediting the 360 as a powerful machine, I have a problem with people discrediting the PS3 as a powerful machine. So we are somewhat in the same boat.
Deftech, I didnt call you arrogant, but I can if you want.
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I have no doubt that the 360 is a powerful machine. Hell, I love ATI and know for a fact that they make great GPU's. Just like you have a problem with people discrediting the 360 as a powerful machine, I have a problem with people discrediting the PS3 as a powerful machine. So we are somewhat in the same boat.
QUOTE(Ozy @ Oct 12 2005, 11:44 AM)
I now have enough money to buy both but the PS3 has shown nothing but renders, which although ins't fair because their console is far way, they don't have anything that I want, apart from the built in wireless and the GTA rights.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 12 2005, 04:52 PM)
I will do what I always do, I wont buy either system until I see a game I want. When I say see, I don't mean pics or trailer vids. I mean seeing plenty of ingame gameplay vids, or maybe after reading a review or three.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 12 2005, 11:39 AM)
Confidence - freedom from doubt; belief in yourself and your abilities [syn: assurance, self-assurance, self-confidence, authority, sureness]
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 12 2005, 05:39 PM)
and BTW, real nice sig its good to see that atleast some people listen to me
QUOTE(Ozy @ Oct 12 2005, 12:41 PM)
Yeah, listen and think you are a fan boy, lol.
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 12 2005, 05:50 PM)
now now ozy there is no need for such comments. a fanboy wouldnt admit anything good on a ps3, a fanboy would say that the grillmaster 3 isnt going to be as good as the 360, and a fanboy wouldnt try to understand everything he could from all 3 systems only to have a better knowledge of the coming generation.
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Oct 12 2005, 12:50 PM)
a fanboy would say that the grillmaster 3 isnt going to be as good as the 360
Shall I dig through your posts because I know for a fact you have said that on more than one occasion.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 12 2005, 06:33 PM)
Shall I dig through your posts because I know for a fact you have said that on more than one occasion.
QUOTE(miggidy @ Oct 12 2005, 06:49 PM)
I miss my teenage years when all I had to worry about was homework and video games!
I feel ya, my(4th one since they fall apart might I add) PS2 was collecting dust until I sold it to one of my friends. My Gamecube collects the most dust though, I even call it my DustCube, but thats what you get when you buy a system for only two games.
At least it was only $99.
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Oct 12 2005, 01:33 PM)
Shall I dig through your posts because I know for a fact you have said that on more than one occasion.
Why do I even bother...