Post by: miggidy on September 17, 2005, 12:52:00 AM
Sean was in the studio and when asked what game was he looking forward to the most from the Xbox 360, he said it was Full Auto.
Just the way he made it sound pissed me off, he said it as if though that was the best game the Xbox 360 had to offer at launch.
They went on to show video footage of some of the launch titles and the "better looking chick" asked about Kameo.
Both the lesbo and Sean scuffed at the game. Sean even went as far as to mock the title for jumping across different platforms.
Go figure....
Post by: miggidy on September 17, 2005, 01:25:00 AM
Post by: incognegro on September 17, 2005, 06:53:00 AM
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They went on to show video footage of some of the launch titles and the "better looking chick" asked about Kameo.
Both the lesbo and Sean scuffed at the game. Sean even went as far as to mock the title for jumping across different platforms.
Both the lesbo and Sean scuffed at the game. Sean even went as far as to mock the title for jumping across different platforms.
Typical g4 fashion.........I prefer to watch gametrailers than watch g4
Anyways that mgs video is ingame, im quite sure of that but its not impressive to me. The ps3 has been hyped up so much interms of grafix, im dissappointed they couldnt even get the game up to par with games like huxley. Especially since the ps3 dev kits have been about 80% of the power since e3.
Im not impressed with the gc controller........i knew nintendo was gonna go radically different and alienate ppl who are more comfortable with traditional controllers. Like all their controllers, its a great idea, sounds great on paper but in practice..........i dunno. I wonder how cross platform games wilol be on revolution since thats the type of controls ppl have to put up with.........should be interesting.
If its dirt cheap ill pick up a rev tho....like i did with the cube, i hate the system but i got my moneys worth so im not complaining
Post by: VariableElite on September 17, 2005, 07:41:00 AM
QUOTE(corkinator @ Sep 17 2005, 08:45 AM)
Full Auto? Geez, that's one of the worst looking 360 games, both in visuals and the look of the gameplay.
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Post by: Deftech on September 17, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
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I cant stand G4, they put up with Gears because Cliffy is an acquaintance, and even Cliffy said he doesnt care for the direction G4 has taken lately(E3).
Once they drop him like a bad habit, they'll have more reasons to dig into the 360.
When see a biased article at 1up, G4 always gets mentioned in the feedback, and 1up defends G4 and vice versa, the evil has spread.
and how in the hell does Kameo jumping from system to system, in any way, make it less of a game? Have they seen the latest vid that takes place on the skyship? I dont even like the game, and it looks downright stunning.
and as far as MGS 4 being real time in game..yeah its the ingame engine..but the point is, thats its Not Ingame -Game play-. Nothing that truly taxes the system is being used in a scripted cutscene, no variables are present.
Im not looking for excuses for it to look worse, anyone thats has paid attention in the last 4 months should Know that certain games will look stunning on the ps3. Those games will be MGS's, FF's, RE's, Splinters. The big budget studios that are CLOSE to sony. Studios that Sony will show preferential treatment towards as far as SDK info. The ones with time and $$ will tap into the ps3, you can bet your ass that none of the above games will be rushed.
But what about the rest of the games for ps3? Will they have the time and $$ to dig into the guts of it? Hell No. So -IF- people think the average game will look even a third as good as MGS 4...get the fuggin tissues out because the crying wil last for years.
Same goes for 360, so dont start bitching at me. But the average base line for graphics should be higher, or more even across the board on 360, according to what devs are saying.
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Post by: VariableElite on September 17, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
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miggidy: I don't want to get off-topic and start discussing the PS3, but read this.
Keep in mind, that was written in May (I know it says June, but I've found an earlier version and I'm trying to track down the original).
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Post by: lex luther on September 17, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
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That was a good and true read their.
That is all True they lied to us and we throwed down the Dreamcast for the ps2 and to me i think the dreamcast looked way better no jaggys or nothing. PS2 had its spec's blowed up from sony. To me the Sony consoles have always been made cheap and came out of the box with bugs such as Bad lasers and lasers going bad Magic gate the slot were you plug your memory cards in some times wouldent pick up on sony memory cards most psp's came out of the box with bad or dead pixels. Sometimes i wish like hell i never bought the playstation 2 and stayed with what i loved..... the dreamcast. Most of us are guilty of that we tossed the dreamcast all because it dident have a dvd player. I feel like MS has done me way better then sony their consoles are built to last they try and give you a little more for your buck. Like i said many times i preorderd my xbox 360 back in july and im spending $700 at launch because im not to worryed about faulty hardware and their is good games at launch. The only other console ill be getting is the nintendo rev. The sony fanboys can have the ps3 and so can the gamers.
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Post by: Moleman on September 17, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
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Nice read. I like MS as a company more than Sony. It seems like they're more honest.
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Post by: daddy69 on September 17, 2005, 09:26:00 PM
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I don't really think that the ps3 will be released on spring of 2006 because they haven't shown any games that are playable yet, I think that it will be released in japan in fall of 2006 and in the US will be released on spring of 2007. Everybody is underestimating the 360 only because it won't have a blue ray dvd drive, the same way that they underestimated the dreamcast that had no dvd drive.
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Post by: Deftech on September 17, 2005, 09:36:00 PM
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Post by: ikecomp on September 17, 2005, 10:10:00 PM
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Yeah, was very good read. Someone had posted this a couple of days go
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=442302
But I think dude was right when he said history is getting ready to repeat itself.
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Post by: Deftech on September 18, 2005, 12:39:00 AM
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the casual gamer will eat it up, its for the ps3.
sad state of affairs
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Post by: miggidy on September 18, 2005, 01:02:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on September 17, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
Once they drop him like a bad habit, they'll have more reasons to dig into the 360.
When see a biased article at 1up, G4 always gets mentioned in the feedback, and 1up defends G4 and vice versa, the evil has spread.
and how in the hell does Kameo jumping from system to system, in any way, make it less of a game? Have they seen the latest vid that takes place on the skyship? I dont even like the game, and it looks downright stunning.
and as far as MGS 4 being real time in game..yeah its the ingame engine..but the point is, thats its Not Ingame -Game play-. Nothing that truly taxes the system is being used in a scripted cutscene, no variables are present.
Im not looking for excuses for it to look worse, anyone thats has paid attention in the last 4 months should Know that certain games will look stunning on the ps3. Those games will be MGS's, FF's, RE's, Splinters. The big budget studios that are CLOSE to sony. Studios that Sony will show preferential treatment towards as far as SDK info. The ones with time and $$ will tap into the ps3, you can bet your ass that none of the above games will be rushed.
But what about the rest of the games for ps3? Will they have the time and $$ to dig into the guts of it? Hell No. So -IF- people think the average game will look even a third as good as MGS 4...get the fuggin tissues out because the crying wil last for years.
Same goes for 360, so dont start bitching at me. But the average base line for graphics should be higher, or more even across the board on 360, according to what devs are saying.
Post by: VariableElite on September 17, 2005, 06:36:00 PM
Keep in mind, that was written in May (I know it says June, but I've found an earlier version and I'm trying to track down the original).
Post by: lex luther on September 17, 2005, 08:26:00 PM
That is all True they lied to us and we throwed down the Dreamcast for the ps2 and to me i think the dreamcast looked way better no jaggys or nothing. PS2 had its spec's blowed up from sony. To me the Sony consoles have always been made cheap and came out of the box with bugs such as Bad lasers and lasers going bad Magic gate the slot were you plug your memory cards in some times wouldent pick up on sony memory cards most psp's came out of the box with bad or dead pixels. Sometimes i wish like hell i never bought the playstation 2 and stayed with what i loved..... the dreamcast. Most of us are guilty of that we tossed the dreamcast all because it dident have a dvd player. I feel like MS has done me way better then sony their consoles are built to last they try and give you a little more for your buck. Like i said many times i preorderd my xbox 360 back in july and im spending $700 at launch because im not to worryed about faulty hardware and their is good games at launch. The only other console ill be getting is the nintendo rev. The sony fanboys can have the ps3 and so can the gamers.
Post by: Moleman on September 17, 2005, 08:39:00 PM
Post by: daddy69 on September 17, 2005, 09:26:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 17, 2005, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: ikecomp on September 17, 2005, 10:10:00 PM
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=442302
But I think dude was right when he said history is getting ready to repeat itself.
Post by: Deftech on September 18, 2005, 12:39:00 AM
sad state of affairs
Post by: miggidy on September 18, 2005, 01:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 18 2005, 08:50 AM)
the casual gamer will eat it up, its for the ps3.
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Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
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Ive been saying this for months. This definitely makes my day dude. Some guy called me a fanboy just for making this prediction about the possible ps3 delay.
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Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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Time will tell on that one, I mean they havent improved anything on the faults of the gamecube and that did horribly bad in japan. The rev will be an upgraded gamecube im sure. Attaching nunchukus to the system is only gonna alienate developers and gamer even more than the cube ever did. the japanese dont seem to take nintendo seriously as a console maker.
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Post by: Shawn_ on September 18, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
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Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 07:57:00 AM
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So Spring is an utter fantasy...maybe in Japan, given Sony likes to "beta" its hardware in Japan
Ive been saying this for months. This definitely makes my day dude. Some guy called me a fanboy just for making this prediction about the possible ps3 delay.
Post by: incognegro on September 18, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
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Mark my words here, the Nintendo Revolution is going to do very well in Japan.
Time will tell on that one, I mean they havent improved anything on the faults of the gamecube and that did horribly bad in japan. The rev will be an upgraded gamecube im sure. Attaching nunchukus to the system is only gonna alienate developers and gamer even more than the cube ever did. the japanese dont seem to take nintendo seriously as a console maker.
Post by: Shawn_ on September 18, 2005, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 17 2005, 02:55 AM)
First off, G4TV will be airing a full report of TGS starting on 9/27.
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Post by: JimmyDeushku on September 18, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
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Lol I just realized how you use the controller for the Revolution, sort of like an EyeToy. You take the remote control looking thing and move it in any direction and you character moves on screen. It's actually pretty cool, but will take a lot of getting used to.
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Post by: Gman22 on September 18, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
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Anyone? September 27th? Origenxbox360.com???
Hmm...
Gman22
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Post by: cbrad on September 18, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
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Arrr... I hate g4tv... the channel and the show. techtv used to be so good...
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Post by: ikecomp on September 18, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
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Post by: JimmyDeushku on September 18, 2005, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: Gman22 on September 18, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
Hmm...
Gman22
Post by: cbrad on September 18, 2005, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: ikecomp on September 18, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
QUOTE(cbrad @ Sep 18 2005, 09:00 PM)
Arrr... I hate g4tv... the channel and the show. techtv used to be so good...
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Post by: miggidy on September 19, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
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Post by: miggidy on September 19, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 18 2005, 05:18 PM)
The DS is destroying the PSP in Japan, and that is why I feel the revoultion will stomp the PS3. It is almost the exact same situation; an innovative idea vs. good graphics.
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Post by: miggidy on September 19, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
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Post by: miggidy on September 19, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Shawn_ @ Sep 18 2005, 06:28 PM)
can we get some offical linkage? sounds good! on one core!
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 19, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
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I found it odd that the japp show this weekend would air sep 27th...
i think they saw something for the 360 that cant be revealed till then or something
Someone on this forum said that they would be going to the show so i wonder what they saw...
and that sony comment i was thinking the exact thing they stole the show with that game that looked very next gen saiyng it was realtime were is it and if they made a game look that good were are the other games....
I think sony is saying that the ps3 will launch soon so many people will wait for it but i see them delaying it and those gamers will come over to the 360..
and the rest is history.
This is off subject but i was thinking that a lot of good games take years in the making and consuls are only around about 5 years doesnt that suck its like hit or miss......
and if m$ is ahead on sony by say 6 months to a year wont this affect the next gen after that?? wont gamers pay the price and towards the end of the consul's life be lame..
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Post by: tom_g05 on September 19, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 19, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
i think they saw something for the 360 that cant be revealed till then or something
Someone on this forum said that they would be going to the show so i wonder what they saw...
and that sony comment i was thinking the exact thing they stole the show with that game that looked very next gen saiyng it was realtime were is it and if they made a game look that good were are the other games....
I think sony is saying that the ps3 will launch soon so many people will wait for it but i see them delaying it and those gamers will come over to the 360..
and the rest is history.
This is off subject but i was thinking that a lot of good games take years in the making and consuls are only around about 5 years doesnt that suck its like hit or miss......
and if m$ is ahead on sony by say 6 months to a year wont this affect the next gen after that?? wont gamers pay the price and towards the end of the consul's life be lame..
Post by: tom_g05 on September 19, 2005, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 18 2005, 05:18 PM)
The DS is destroying the PSP in Japan, and that is why I feel the revoultion will stomp the PS3. It is almost the exact same situation; an innovative idea vs. good graphics.
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Post by: incognegro on September 19, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
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This has got to be a joke..........have u ever looked at the trends of the consumers in japan? They back nintendo for their handhelds but dont take their consoles seriously. The gamecube didnt sell well yet the gameboy and ds did well easily! When the rev comes out, theyre gonna buy the ps3. Simply cause They have more respect for sony in console market but not the handheld.
This is proof to my theory that nintendos devices seem more like novelty devices. This sorta stuff will work with handhelds cause they are a fashion statement of sorts. Consoles on the other hand are for serious gaming and nobody takes nintendo THAT serious. I respect nintendo (shit, i dont have a gc for nothing) but the world at large doesnt take them seriously simply cause they dont take themselves seriously at times and that will also be their downfall.
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Post by: halfie1485 on September 19, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
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if u want more with kevin rose just go to www.kevinrose.com its his site... and download some of the shows on there, the broken, systm, etc... all good geek shit! also look for the podcasts too. anyway i still dont get y theres another show on 360, cuz the mtv's special sucked.
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Post by: miggidy on September 20, 2005, 12:02:00 AM
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Post by: incognegro on September 19, 2005, 06:47:00 PM
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The DS is destroying the PSP in Japan, and that is why I feel the revoultion will stomp the PS3. It is almost the exact same situation; an innovative idea vs. good graphics.
This has got to be a joke..........have u ever looked at the trends of the consumers in japan? They back nintendo for their handhelds but dont take their consoles seriously. The gamecube didnt sell well yet the gameboy and ds did well easily! When the rev comes out, theyre gonna buy the ps3. Simply cause They have more respect for sony in console market but not the handheld.
This is proof to my theory that nintendos devices seem more like novelty devices. This sorta stuff will work with handhelds cause they are a fashion statement of sorts. Consoles on the other hand are for serious gaming and nobody takes nintendo THAT serious. I respect nintendo (shit, i dont have a gc for nothing) but the world at large doesnt take them seriously simply cause they dont take themselves seriously at times and that will also be their downfall.
Post by: halfie1485 on September 19, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
Post by: miggidy on September 20, 2005, 12:02:00 AM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 20 2005, 03:18 AM)
Yea, this does have to be a joke, you considering 2 generations as "always". Since the history is so short between these companies you cannot compare it like that. I think it makes more sense and opens up a much larger spectrum to compare it with marketing strategy rather than company history.
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Post by: incognegro on September 20, 2005, 05:44:00 AM
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Mark MY words, cheap blu ray players will sell in japan too!!
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Post by: Shawn_ on September 20, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
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Post by: incognegro on September 20, 2005, 05:44:00 AM
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Mark my words innovation will sell in Japan
Mark MY words, cheap blu ray players will sell in japan too!!
Post by: Shawn_ on September 20, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 19 2005, 01:57 PM)
G4TV.COM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 20, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
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as much as the revolution's controller has gained interest and hype among the japanese, i still dont see the revolution beating the ps3. think about it, for over 10 years nintendo has stomped any other hand held that has come to the market. the japanese have a long standing loyalty to things. they know that nintendo delivers when it comes to handhelds. it wouldnt matter if the next handheld system didnt have double screens, if they had the games and the support that the DS has then it would sell the same because its from nintendo and people expect it to be a huge success.
the gamecube did horrible for a japanese system in japan, especailly compared to the ps2. just like nintendo with the handheld market im sure the japanese will be loyal to sony and the ps3 because they believe that they have succeeded before and thats where the support and games will be (well games that they want).
as for the 360 its going to be fun to see how well or bad it does over there. if they dont succeed over there in the least bit, we all know its not because of MS's lack of trying.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 20, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 20, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
the gamecube did horrible for a japanese system in japan, especailly compared to the ps2. just like nintendo with the handheld market im sure the japanese will be loyal to sony and the ps3 because they believe that they have succeeded before and thats where the support and games will be (well games that they want).
as for the 360 its going to be fun to see how well or bad it does over there. if they dont succeed over there in the least bit, we all know its not because of MS's lack of trying.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 20, 2005, 05:33:00 PM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 20 2005, 07:22 PM)
MS- 10% Sony 55% Nintendo 35%
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Post by: Deftech on September 20, 2005, 06:06:00 PM
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10% for the 360 in japan?
that would be a huge percentage for them to have compared to now, and yeah thats 10 fold of current #'s.
that would put the 360 at more sales than GC achieved this generation in japan.
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Post by: Deftech on September 20, 2005, 06:17:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on September 20, 2005, 06:06:00 PM
that would be a huge percentage for them to have compared to now, and yeah thats 10 fold of current #'s.
that would put the 360 at more sales than GC achieved this generation in japan.
Post by: Deftech on September 20, 2005, 06:17:00 PM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 20 2005, 08:22 PM)
Do not underestimate the power that is MS 
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Post by: corridon on September 21, 2005, 03:50:00 AM
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Until Sony shows footage with a crosshair, lap count, HUD or whatever and someone is actuall sitting there playing the game, then it isn't real time.
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Post by: hugoboss1 on September 21, 2005, 07:56:00 AM
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Post by: corridon on September 21, 2005, 03:50:00 AM
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 21, 2005, 07:56:00 AM
QUOTE(corridon @ Sep 21 2005, 06:01 AM)
Until Sony shows footage with a crosshair, lap count, HUD or whatever and someone is actuall sitting there playing the game, then it isn't real time.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 08:20:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 08:20:00 AM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 21 2005, 12:29 PM)
I don't know if you guys have realized this but Sega's the only developer showing off real time PS3 stuff (Of which looks no better than the X360 stuff we've seen, if not worse). And this is probably because they are the only developer on the PS3 bandwagon that has the balls to show off their preliminary work. Why? Because they have confidence in themselves, they know they will deliver in the end. At least that's the way I see it.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 21, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 21 2005, 01:09 PM)
I'm just speaking for Kojima's work.
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Post by: VariableElite on September 21, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
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Post by: incognegro on September 21, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 22, 2005, 08:16:00 AM
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http://www.gamesindu...e.php?aid=11692
honestly i dont care how much of a lead MS doesnt have in japan because they cant win there anyways, as long as they do better then last time is all that matters to me.
what is important is the room MS has in europe and america. according to reports it may not come out here till even early 2007, even though i doubt sony would let that happen. all this is good news to me towards the 360, if MS got around a year in america with out any ps3 that would be huge. if MS reaches their goal of systems sold within the first year (wasnt it 10-12 million world wide?) then that would be a great boost for them. the great thing is that MS usually doesnt make goals they cant live up to.
Post by: VariableElite on September 21, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on September 21, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 22, 2005, 08:16:00 AM
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Although no territory was mentioned in the statement, indications are that a Japanese launch would be first - around April or May, with European and US launches following later in the year, or early in 2007.
http://www.gamesindu...e.php?aid=11692
honestly i dont care how much of a lead MS doesnt have in japan because they cant win there anyways, as long as they do better then last time is all that matters to me.
what is important is the room MS has in europe and america. according to reports it may not come out here till even early 2007, even though i doubt sony would let that happen. all this is good news to me towards the 360, if MS got around a year in america with out any ps3 that would be huge. if MS reaches their goal of systems sold within the first year (wasnt it 10-12 million world wide?) then that would be a great boost for them. the great thing is that MS usually doesnt make goals they cant live up to.