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Title: Ooooooo Your So Pretty
Post by: mathias on August 31, 2005, 01:45:00 PM
Just making a new thread.......



So just wondering what games you think graphicly will look the best at launch...


personally I think it will be kameo since its rare/MS and proably had its hands on countless beta kits and info for development....


and others that are being rushed for launch are going to look like top notch regular xbox games.... but again just my opinion now post yours smile.gif
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Post by: Deftech on August 31, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
PGR 3 will probably be king.

And as good as kameo might look, I dont get into the cartooony stuff.

Oblivion will be gorgeous with its lush areas.

Quake 4 will be buttery smooth and looking good

Recon 3 "might" be the weakest, but thats saying alot when its in the same league as the above mentioned.

PD Zero, noone knows  blink.gif

I'll stop b4 I get carried away.

Next summer is when the REAL gems appear.

Gears, Huxley, Dark Sector.....

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Splinter 4?!?!?!?!

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Post by: hugoboss1 on August 31, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
oh yeah with those shadow features on 360 i cant imagine what to expect from splinter cell  it will rule in grapics.
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Post by: Deftech on August 31, 2005, 02:09:00 PM
hell, the shadowing on the xbox is awesome. Remove the jaggies from Chaos and run it in 720p/1080i and you'd swear youre looking at a possible next gen title.

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Post by: Shawn_ on August 31, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
Huxley man there is a game that got a grpahics upgrade!

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Post by: incognegro on August 31, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
yes...........huxley is DEFINITELY the best looking 360 game so far in my opinion (even more than GoW IMO)

Anyways i have faith in rare's games in the grafix department.........
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Post by: KAGE360 on August 31, 2005, 02:28:00 PM
i say when all is said and done oblivion will have the best graphics if PGR3 doesnt make it to launch.  with how large oblivion is and how the graphics are spread out over the whole island i cant believe how good the game looks.  i remember early pics of a woman who they aged and in the close up shots you could see the pores in her skin.  now thats detail.
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Post by: Deftech on August 31, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
Now are we talking launch, or launch window?  tongue.gif

we have to start being more precise with launch questions  beerchug.gif
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 31, 2005, 02:37:00 PM
I can't believe any of you are excited over launch titles. You will hate them in 3 months and wonder why you bought them. I have never played a "great" launch title for any system.

I take that back, Sonic 1 and Super Mario World were great, but 2d consoles don't count. laugh.gif
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Post by: Carlo210 on August 31, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
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Anyways, I'm still waiting impatiently for Perfect Dark Zero information. They are keeping that game under some tight wraps.  ph34r.gif
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Post by: Deftech on August 31, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Aug 31 2005, 06:48 PM)
I can't believe any of you are excited over launch titles. You will hate them in 3 months and wonder why you bought them. I have never played a "great" launch title for any system.

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Post by: mathias on August 31, 2005, 04:05:00 PM
hmmm another great title to launch with ps2 and I still play here and there is SSX that was a great game....
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Post by: spearfree on August 31, 2005, 10:13:00 PM
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QUOTE(Deftech @ Aug 31 2005, 10:05 PM)
PGR 3 will probably be king.
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Post by: Foe-hammer on September 01, 2005, 12:29:00 AM
I was going to point out the same thing: Sonic a launch title for the genesis??  I could have sworn i purchased it almost 2 yrs after the system launched.  

Super mario bros, Mario 64, and Halo are in my top 10 games of all time; all being launch titles.

But i agree that there have been thousands of crap launch titles.  The few good ones seem to only come from first-party developers; which makes sense.
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 05:14:00 AM
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So far, from the little we know, Quake 4 looks a lot cooler, but PD0 might still hit the spot for me once more info is released.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Aug 31 2005, 04:56 PM)
that might be the silliest thing youve ever typed here. Theres a difference between crabbiness and stupid comments, and thats borderline stupid.
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 08:13:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 04:13 PM)
I personally hate almost all launch titles, you love them, both opinions, but somehow yours is better(more right), more hipocrisy I guess.  rolleyes.gif
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:21:00 AM
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It seems some of you need education as to what opinion means, well here.

Opinion - A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

What I said were opinions.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 08:23:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:13 AM)
I am entitled to my opinion and believe me you make plenty of stupid ass comments yourself rolleyes.gif try not to be a hypocrite, let me show your hypocrisy.
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 08:25:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:32 AM)
To argue over someones opinions is narrow minded. wink.gif
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:30:00 AM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:34 AM)
there is a big difference as to what you both say.  you let your opinion effect the facts.  yeah deftech has mentioned Halo, PGR, and DoA3 as being great games that are launch titles but its not like his opinion is his alone.

I hope you see you error in this comment...........it is still ones opinion. A review is an opinion. Some think Madden is better than the 2K games. Well isnt that an opinion even though madden sold more copies. Sales don't change an opinion. All your silly comment here shows, is that some people share the same OPINION rolleyes.gif
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just because you dont like them for whatever reason doesnt mean that they arent good games. 

In my eyes they are not good games.............once again...........my opinion and opinions are never wrong so stop trying to make my opinion wrong rolleyes.gif

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what you said can also be considered ignorance
I sugesst you learn words before you use them.

Ignorance - The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 08:34:00 AM
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You will hate them in 3 months and wonder why you bought them.

That's not an opinion.
You are saying that we will regret buying launch titles. This makes your 'opinion' easy to go against becuse your opinion is about our experience with games.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:45 AM)
That's not an opinion.
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 08:41:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:52 AM)
The thing is, WE HAVEN'T REGRETTED BUYING LAUNCH GAMES, so we are just telling you that WE WILL NOT 'regret' getting launch games because a good game is a good game.
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 01, 2005, 08:47:00 AM
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 08:48:00 AM
Maybe because we don't understand why it is your opinion. None of us have ever said we got bored of Launch titles or anything, so we don't know why you would think that launch titles suck.


Edit: Yes, I'm an X-S Hacker! woot.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 08:56:00 AM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Sep 1 2005, 10:58 AM)
Ok Ok Ok.  Can we bury this?

Yes, I am done now. beerchug.gif
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 10:41 AM)
I hope you see you error in this comment...........it is still ones opinion. A review is an opinion. Some think Madden is better than the 2K games. Well isnt that an opinion even though madden sold more copies. Sales don't change an opinion. All your silly comment here shows, is that some people share the same OPINION rolleyes.gif
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 1 2005, 12:39 PM)
so what would you consider a factual comment to what is and isnt a good game???  to say that there is no factual good games is just stupid.

There is no fact to what is good and what isnt when it boils down to media. Everything is an opinion. If a form media is popular, that only means many people share a positive opinion about said object. The only way for it to become a fact is if every person shares that same opinion. If every person who ever played Halo thought it was a good game, then it would become a fact, otherwise it is just an opinion as to whether it is a good game or not.
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and what was your opinion of PGR2, halo 2 and all the other sequals to the launch games??  there isnt the reason that they are launch titles for you not to like them, but im sure you dont need reasons to dislike something. 

My opinion of said games. PGR2 was crap as I don't like arcade racers. Halo 2 sucked as I hate the over used sci-fi theme of a bright and colorful world, and I also don't like console FPS.
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do you also forget the fact that the launch titles that most people are excited about are actually just sequals to proven games?? 

I notice that and that those same people bash $ony for having proven games such as MGS4, Killzone 2, Devil May Cry, etc. Hypocritical don't you think?
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so if oblivion, PGR3, ghost recon 3 or PDZ came out mid life instead at the launch of a system you would like them??

I wont buy oblivion anyways as I did not have a fun experience with the last few Elder Scroll games. PGR3, you should already know why I wouldnt even look at this at any point in time. I have never liked the Ghost Recon games, I prefer to play the standard Rainbow Six games as they feel somewhat more realistic. Perfect Dark Zero, well I might be in the minority here, but I had no interest in PD on the N64, so why would I even care about the new one.
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
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I am entitled to my opinion and believe me you make plenty of stupid ass comments yourself rolleyes.gif try not to be a hypocrite, let me show your hypocrisy.


Yet heres me comment to you..

First, thats your opinion and totally subjective.


and me saying...that might be the silliest thing youve ever typed here. Theres a difference between crabbiness and stupid comments, and thats borderline stupid.  

I tried to prove your Opinion was wrong how?

My opinion of your opinion is that it was stupid.

Then I went on to show facts that supported my Opinion, Just as you did.

Where did I say yours was wrong/incorrect/not right?

I said it was stupid, and that opinion still stands and gets stronger with every word you type.

then you use the word Hypocrite 13 times and for what? for me saying I think your opinion is stupid?

Did I say my opinion was law? You had the nerve to type the following, and its what started this...

let me remind you of your trolling post that started all this...

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I can't believe any of you are excited over launch titles. You will hate them in 3 months and wonder why you bought them. I have never played a "great" launch title for any system.


You are "telling" us, even though you don't know us, that we "will" hate them all 3 months later.

The Nerve of some people!

For shame!!

Strong words people, strong words.

Hahahaha

Now go home with your tail between your legs.

Oh but wait, it's not over kiddies.

Its never over until he gets the last word in. He is the supreme word twister!









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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
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lol

Doing what he does best, switch things around and tries to confuse.

Deftones.. go back and read your 1st reply to me..


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I am entitled to my opinion and believe me you make plenty of stupid ass comments yourself rolleyes.gif try not to be a hypocrite, let me show your hypocrisy.


Yet heres me comment to you..

First, thats your opinion and totally subjective.

and me saying...that might be the silliest thing youve ever typed here. Theres a difference between crabbiness and stupid comments, and thats borderline stupid.

I tried to prove your Opinion was wrong how?

My opinion of your opinion is that it was stupid.

Then I went on to show facts that supported my Opinion, Just as you did.

Where did I say yours was wrong/incorrect/not right?

I said it was stupid, and that opinion still stands and gets stronger with every word you type.

then you use the word Hypocrite 13 times and for what? for me saying I think your opinion is stupid?

Did I say my opinion was law? You had the nerve to type the following, and its what started this...

let me remind you of your trolling post that started all this...


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I can't believe any of you are excited over launch titles. You will hate them in 3 months and wonder why you bought them. I have never played a "great" launch title for any system.


You are "telling" us, even though you don't know us, that we "will" hate them all 3 months later.

The Nerve of some people!

For shame!!

Strong words people, strong words.

Hahahaha

Now go home with your tail between your legs.

Oh but wait, it's not over kiddies.

Its never over until he gets the last word in. He is the supreme word twister!




lol

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i still believe there is in fact the difference between a good game and a bad game that is beyond opinion.  

a game with an unplayable frame rate, graphics, laughable story, and horrid sound is a bad game.  a game with a great story, graphics, crontrols/play factor, and gorgeous sound is a good game.  like everything else in this world there is a difference between quality and crap.  but he wont get my point and instead call us all hipocrites.  

and to me there is a difference between a series that will continue to push the bar and improve on itself and a series that will add gimicks and nothing more to rehash the same game.  MGS is one of the games that comes to mind.  considering the gameplay, camera angle, and features of the latest installment it plays too much like MGS1.  if there is a good game on the shitstation im not too blind to admit it.  
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 11:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 1 2005, 01:53 PM)
Doing what he does best, switch things around and tries to confuse.

Please explain how I switched things around.
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I tried to prove your Opinion was wrong how?

Did I say you did? NO, I was not talking to you when I told someone to stop trying to prove my opinions wrong.
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My opinion of your opinion is that it was stupid.

There is no such thing as a stupid opinion as every person has their own and most OPINIONS differ.
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Where did I say yours was wrong/incorrect/not right?

You didnt and I never said you did.
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I said it was stupid, and that opinion still stands and gets stronger with every word you type.

And thats fine, whatever, its your opinion.
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then you use the word Hypocrite 13 times and for what? for me saying I think your opinion is stupid?

Honestly, can you count? I don't seem to think so since I only used it four times in my post to you.
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Did I say my opinion was law? You had the nerve to type the following, and its what started this...

Who is twisting words and trying to confuse? You are speaking of things I never said to you. Deftech is looking like the supreme word twister now. Once again, I never said you were saying my opinion was wrong. And God forbid that I have the nerve to state my opinion. rolleyes.gif
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
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let's show him Cosmic Race. I have the page here somewhere..hahahaha

he'd say its not crap just to prove his point so why bother  sad.gif

the only game in history to receive ZEROs from mulitple magazines back in the 90's.

But ratings are opinionated and subjective, surely someone out there would buy this game right?

it was considered so bad that retail employees tried it and demanded their managers pull it from shelves. They didnt want to angry customers who would surely return it.  Nah but thats not a bad game. It looked like poop was on the screen, couldnt see where you were going, no sound, controls didn't work.

Only found on the Sony Playstation circa 1996/1997  beerchug.gif

Cosmic Race = 0.0

classic  pop.gif
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 1 2005, 02:15 PM)
you said "yours is better(more right)"

I know what you were implying, its just a tad obvious.

Next time quote the whole line so you dont confuse others. wink.gif
Not one point in there is saying one of our opinions is wrong, like you want to put it. It is stating that you think your opinion is better(more right). I can see how you confused me saying better(more right) with youre right and I'm wrong.

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Second, I personally hate almost all launch titles, you love them, both opinions, but somehow yours is better(more right),
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 02:20 PM)
Next time quote the whole line so you dont confuse others. wink.gif
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 01, 2005, 12:21:00 PM
Ugh...

Thread polluters.  I thought this was buried.
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 12:29:00 PM
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I am finished though

Heres that  pop.gif you asked for, might be a little burnt  sad.gif
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Post by: Master X on September 01, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
Quake 4, Demonik, and Kameo
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
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Of all the games.
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
is that a 360 game?

oh from Clive Barker?

havent heard anything on that since E3
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 01, 2005, 02:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Sep 1 2005, 04:50 PM)
Court run for what?  blink.gif
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 1 2005, 05:00 PM)
im at work right now and this is the only video game related site i have found so far that isnt blocked by the filter they have here on the computers.  i was just making the point that i have been gone for a while and i didnt expect the "debate" to have carried on as long as it did.  those 2 are stubborn though so i should have figured.
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 02:59:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 1 2005, 02:02 PM)
and to me there is a difference between a series that will continue to push the bar and improve on itself and a series that will add gimicks and nothing more to rehash the same game.  MGS is one of the games that comes to mind.  considering the gameplay, camera angle, and features of the latest installment it plays too much like MGS1.  if there is a good game on the shitstation im not too blind to admit it.

 rotfl.gif  laugh.gif that is the worst example in this debate you could have used.
So I guess you feel Splinter Cell Chaos Theory Plays just like the first Splinter Cell huh? rotfl.gif  laugh.gif
Considering the gameplay, camera angle, and features of SP CT play too much like SP1 laugh.gif  rotfl.gif
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 11:10 PM)
rotfl.gif  laugh.gif that is the worst example in this debate you could have used.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Sep 1 2005, 05:12 PM)
Err, no, he feels like MGS plays like the first one. Where do you get the idea that he feels that way about splinter Cell too?
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 03:20:00 PM
QUOTE(tracemhunter @ Sep 1 2005, 05:22 PM)
i reserved GUN. i am not sure if i should have reserved pg3 instead. thinking about changing.
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Post by: Foe-hammer on September 01, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
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Just playin  biggrin.gif

Looks like the huneymoon is over between the two defts. sad.gif  laugh.gif

You two need to kiss and make up.

And deftones, down boy, down!

Just playin, again  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif



On topic:

Oblivion is the must lauch title to buy for me, and possibly PD.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 01, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Sep 1 2005, 05:41 PM)
Oh ya!  Sonic was my favorite launch title. laugh.gif

Just playin  biggrin.gif

Looks like the huneymoon is over between the two defts. sad.gif  laugh.gif

You two need to kiss and make up.

And deftones, down boy, down!

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Don't worry fellas, I'm done being pissy. beerchug.gif
I'm am surprised Deftech didnt get that jab about sonic first. Sorry I didnt get a genesis at launch, I got it later, I was a Nintendo fan back in the day. tongue.gif
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Post by: Carlo210 on September 01, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
QUOTE(qwerty710710 @ Sep 1 2005, 11:46 PM)
Here are going to be the best looking launch games
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Post by: incognegro on September 01, 2005, 07:10:00 PM
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And Madden? Let's just say there are games that I think will look better.


Madden looked amazing (unparalleled is more like it) when it debuted on ps2  dry.gif ............why not 360?

sometimes EA  do deserve some credit (and the benefit of the doubt)  dry.gif
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 08:06:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 1 2005, 06:55 PM)
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Post by: mathias on September 01, 2005, 09:11:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on September 01, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(mathias @ Sep 1 2005, 11:22 PM)
since I started the thread I should post again
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Post by: Xombe on September 01, 2005, 09:52:00 PM
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Topic Closed: The db is big enough already.