Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 03:56:00 AM
Post by: Twasi on July 20, 2005, 06:38:00 AM
Although you see alot more of that with GC to PS2 or PS2 to GC but anyways great news.
Post by: Shinamano on July 20, 2005, 09:03:00 AM
Capcom also let a little info slip on the greatest game ever at Comic Con the other day...yeah I am talking Street Fighter 4!
Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 20, 2005, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Jul 20 2005, 12:14 PM)
Capcom also let a little info slip on the greatest game ever at Comic Con the other day...yeah I am talking Street Fighter 4!
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Post by: halofreak007 on July 20, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
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im a big fan of the resident evil series played everyone that came out
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Post by: Shinamano on July 20, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on July 20, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
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good to see someone in capcom has a brain. i cant even imagine how scary they can make the game with that kind of power. cant wait for some footage
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 20, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
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Post by: halofreak007 on July 20, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: Shinamano on July 20, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
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The topic came up during the Ultimate Street Fighter panel discussion at the San Diego Comic Convention. At some point someone asked a Udon Comics representative about the possibility of a SF4 game and the guy said something was in the works. Then a Capcom rep said they had not forgotten their fans and were working on something.
Nothing huge in terms of detail, but if Udon knows about it chances are they are doing the art for it and that just makes me (Whet)...
Post by: KAGE360 on July 20, 2005, 12:17:00 PM
Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 20, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Jul 20 2005, 03:14 PM)
Nothing huge in terms of detail, but if Udon knows about it chances are they are doing the art for it and that just makes me (Whet)...
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Post by: incognegro on July 20, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
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thats a good for 360 i guess...........part of the reason ports of former exclusives to the xbox never seem to do as well is because they werent made for the xbox. These games usually seem amazing on their respective consoles because they were utilizing the hardware the were made for but they just werent as 'special' when they got on the xbox; similar to what happened to halo when it went to pc. We dont want sloppy seconds (gta: san andreas) we want our own!
anyways RE is good, but when are we getting a next gen 'the suffering'?
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
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Post by: incognegro on July 20, 2005, 12:30:00 PM
anyways RE is good, but when are we getting a next gen 'the suffering'?
Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Jul 20 2005, 04:41 PM)
thats a good for 360 i guess...........part of the reason ports of former exclusives to the xbox never seem to do as well is because they werent made for the xbox. These games usually seem amazing on their respective consoles because they were utilizing the hardware the were made for but they just werent as 'special' when they got on the xbox; similar to what happened to halo when it went to pc. We dont want sloppy seconds (gta: san andreas) we want our own!
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:19:00 PM
QUOTE(darth_turtur @ Jul 20 2005, 05:52 PM)
I don't know...for some reason, i've never really been a big fan of the series. And what upsets me more is that there isn't a real solid action-horror title that's exclusive for the Xbox/Xbox 360. Hopefully that will change...
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Post by: darth_turtur on July 20, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
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Post by: darth_turtur on July 20, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 20 2005, 02:30 PM)
Only one I ever liked was Code Veronica for DC. I heard RE 4 rocked but im not spending $$ on that nintendo device.
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:32:00 PM
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yeah, Dreamcast.
I borrowed my cousins a few months back and played CV. Damn am I an ass for getting rid of it! In my top 5 of all time. I hope RE 5 is half as good.
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Post by: Shawn_ on July 20, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
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this is awesome, I can't wait to buy a 360!
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
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does your sig banner have any significant meaning? i mean as far as little chiefs surrounding Marcus?
other than that...360!! 360!!
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Post by: Shawn_ on July 20, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:32:00 PM
I borrowed my cousins a few months back and played CV. Damn am I an ass for getting rid of it! In my top 5 of all time. I hope RE 5 is half as good.
Post by: Shawn_ on July 20, 2005, 02:39:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
other than that...360!! 360!!
Post by: Shawn_ on July 20, 2005, 02:56:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 20 2005, 04:56 PM)
does your sig banner have any significant meaning? i mean as far as little chiefs surrounding Marcus?
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 05:49:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 05:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Shawn_ @ Jul 20 2005, 07:07 PM)
sure thing dude! friends always stick together, even in combat situations!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Andy51 on July 20, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
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You know what system I'm talking about... Just get the system I want, the Xbox 360, and it will come... Xbox 360 is really is going to gain some firm and powerful ground...
Resident Evil 5 looks very detailed, and it isn't even coming out for like 2 years or something.
Best news I heard since... Well lets just say great news!
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Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
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Post by: Heet on July 21, 2005, 12:36:00 AM
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Post by: deliverymanxas on July 21, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
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Code Veronica was pretty bad ass. And it IS ABOUT TIME Xbox got a good, solid, scare the shit out of the person watching you jump style of game. I cant wait...is there some way we can raid somebody's house and get the master copy yet?????
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 21, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
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I've debated buying a GC just for RE4 several times... whenever I see it in the store it's like "man I can get a refurb GC for $60" Then I realize I'll probably need a memory card, and some better AV cables, and another controller, etc. and then it's just too much money to justify one game. THAT and I keep telling myself I'm not getting a GC because I'll probably get a Revolution
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 21, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 20, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
You know what system I'm talking about... Just get the system I want, the Xbox 360, and it will come... Xbox 360 is really is going to gain some firm and powerful ground...Resident Evil 5 looks very detailed, and it isn't even coming out for like 2 years or something.
Best news I heard since... Well lets just say great news!
Post by: Deftech on July 20, 2005, 08:44:00 PM
Post by: Heet on July 21, 2005, 12:36:00 AM
Post by: deliverymanxas on July 21, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 21, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
I've debated buying a GC just for RE4 several times... whenever I see it in the store it's like "man I can get a refurb GC for $60" Then I realize I'll probably need a memory card, and some better AV cables, and another controller, etc. and then it's just too much money to justify one game. THAT and I keep telling myself I'm not getting a GC because I'll probably get a Revolution
Post by: miggidy on July 21, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 21 2005, 04:04 PM)
I've debated buying a dreamcast just for RE4 several times... whenever I see it in the store it's like "man I can get a refurb GC for $60" Then I realize I'll probably need a memory card, and some better AV cables, and another controller, etc. and then it's just too much money to justify one game. THAT and I keep telling myself I'm not getting a GC because I'll probably get a Revolution
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Post by: Andy51 on July 21, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
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IGN has a video from the Playstation Meeting, looks very sweet ass... But I'm not too fond of Scary games... although I liked RE4....
Or maybe I should save money for the Xbox 3? That way I can get the graphics I dream of?
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 21, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 21, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
Or maybe I should save money for the Xbox 3? That way I can get the graphics I dream of?
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 21, 2005, 10:46:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 21 2005, 11:11 AM)
You mean a GCube right?
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: MetalZoic on July 21, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
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Post by: MetalZoic on July 21, 2005, 11:27:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 21 2005, 04:04 PM)
I've debated buying a GC just for RE4 several times... whenever I see it in the store it's like "man I can get a refurb GC for $60" Then I realize I'll probably need a memory card, and some better AV cables, and another controller, etc. and then it's just too much money to justify one game. THAT and I keep telling myself I'm not getting a GC because I'll probably get a Revolution
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 21, 2005, 01:43:00 PM
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I rushed here as fast as I could.
IGN just posted an exclusive video clip of RE5....
Here's the link:
http://media.xbox360...880/vids_1.html
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Post by: Andy51 on July 21, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
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too late!!! but I talked about the video but didn't post a link, thats really a great picture
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Post by: Deftech on July 21, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
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thanks miggidy!
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Post by: holla45 on July 21, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
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Thats PS3 Quality
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Post by: jaydon34 on July 21, 2005, 05:54:00 PM
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Great looking game makes me hate those console exclusive.
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Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
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i hope that camera angels are better this time around, also i hope its not always dark like in Doom3 that pissed me off.
lol
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Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
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Post by: miggidy on July 21, 2005, 01:43:00 PM
IGN just posted an exclusive video clip of RE5....
Here's the link:
http://media.xbox360...880/vids_1.html
Post by: Andy51 on July 21, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 21, 2005, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: holla45 on July 21, 2005, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: jaydon34 on July 21, 2005, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:46:00 AM
lol
Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 21 2005, 05:20 PM)
thanks miggidy!
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Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
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Post by: SickJoda on July 22, 2005, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 21 2005, 05:20 PM)
thanks miggidy!
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Post by: miggidy on July 22, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
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Post by: miggidy on July 22, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
QUOTE(holla45 @ Jul 22 2005, 01:37 AM)
Thats PS3 Quality
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Post by: addyb on July 22, 2005, 09:43:00 AM
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Post by: addyb on July 22, 2005, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(MetalZoic @ Jul 21 2005, 07:38 PM)
When you finally do get a chance to play it you'll be happy that you didn't spend all that money.
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 09:59:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 09:59:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 22 2005, 01:46 PM)
I wonder though if any of this is in real time.
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 22 2005, 03:55 PM)
You make some good points.
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
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ok dont hate me, this will extend the pages width by quite a bit, but these are too sexy!!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
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You see those are ps3 pics cause they showed that trailer on ps meeting so you guys cant say anything bad about ps3
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Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
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GUESS WERE ELSE THEY SHOWED THAT MOVIE FOR 360?
>>>CLICK FOR THE MOVIES!<<<
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Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 02:03:00 PM
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now answer this for me boy.
Why is the world would M$ put a preview of a game on their site when they have a new console coming out, run on their compettators product?
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Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 22, 2005, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 01:56:00 PM
GUESS WERE ELSE THEY SHOWED THAT MOVIE FOR 360?>>>CLICK FOR THE MOVIES!<<<
Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 02:03:00 PM
Why is the world would M$ put a preview of a game on their site when they have a new console coming out, run on their compettators product?
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
QUOTE(zero129 @ Jul 23 2005, 05:12 PM)
But did they say what hardware it was running on?.
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 02:35:00 PM
QUOTE(holla45 @ Jul 23 2005, 05:38 PM)
You see those are ps3 pics cause they showed that trailer on ps meeting so you guys cant say anything bad about ps3
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Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 02:43:00 PM
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Ohhhhh now u still saying there're lying about all the stuff they told and showed about lol you guys are funny did you read this http://www.gamespot....ws_6129611.html and this http://ps3.ign.com/a...6/636028p1.html
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
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whos going to deal with this one?
its not my turn, Im making the so I have something to munch on while reading....
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Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
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Im not going to argue over a system just making a point that ps3 is gonna be a great syatem like xbox360, you xbox fans just hate when someone shows u some prove that ps3 is the real deal
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Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
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and this just in! the worlds uglyest, most alien looking real deal ever.
Why are you talking about Ps3 in the Xbox360 lounge? lol
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Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
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my point
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
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and get this straight mr. hoffa...
I dont dislike the ps3, im sure youll enjoy it, it will be very powerful. Its the company that makes it that I despise. the ps3 wont exist in my world, just as the 2 before it havent. Im too busy to be running around grabbing all systems possible, so I pick one, and MS has nailed everything thus far and I will continue to support MS consoles until I exit this hobby.
You are the exact type that would buy anything that has "SONY" stamped on it, regardless of what its capable of or Not capable of. I can tell just by the way you present yourself on these forums, Ive watched your kind since the PS1 launched, I know your moves and I will squash whatever attempts you make to reply to this
ahh I feel better
whos got the
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
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Ok i guess you guys have to wait till september TGS then it will slap yall in the face
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Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
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Double Post
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
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You have atleast 10 to 12 months, I say more like 15 though. Surely you can save up $5,000.00 by then, and thats just for the controller
ok that was lame, I admit it. Its the Zero gave me, it was over buttered and Im hillucinating
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Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 09:38:00 PM
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I felt
I then got very
and and started to get very 
I then grabbed another mouth full of and fell again
ok, someone call a doctor, I need fuggin therapy.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: esc1 on July 24, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
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Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 02:43:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 03:00:00 PM
whos going to deal with this one?
its not my turn, Im making the
so I have something to munch on while reading....Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
Why are you talking about Ps3 in the Xbox360 lounge? lol
Post by: SickJoda on July 23, 2005, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 04:21:00 PM
and get this straight mr. hoffa...
I dont dislike the ps3, im sure youll enjoy it, it will be very powerful. Its the company that makes it that I despise. the ps3 wont exist in my world, just as the 2 before it havent. Im too busy to be running around grabbing all systems possible, so I pick one, and MS has nailed everything thus far and I will continue to support MS consoles until I exit this hobby.
You are the exact type that would buy anything that has "SONY" stamped on it, regardless of what its capable of or Not capable of. I can tell just by the way you present yourself on these forums, Ive watched your kind since the PS1 launched, I know your moves and I will squash whatever attempts you make to reply to this
ahh I feel better
whos got the
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: holla45 on July 23, 2005, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
You have atleast 10 to 12 months, I say more like 15 though. Surely you can save up $5,000.00 by then, and thats just for the controller ok that was lame, I admit it. Its the
Zero gave me, it was over buttered and Im hillucinating
Post by: Deftech on July 23, 2005, 09:38:00 PM
I felt
I then got very
and and started to get very I then grabbed another mouth full of
and fell again ok, someone call a doctor, I need fuggin therapy.
Post by: esc1 on July 24, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Jul 20 2005, 11:14 AM)
This was one of the only games i was going to get a PS3 for...now all PS3 has is Metal Gear...if that jumps ship as well I may only need one system next-gen...o yeah Zelda.
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Post by: holla45 on July 24, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
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You guys still dont understand it i never said it was running on ps3 hardware look at this that was running on http://ps3.ign.com/a...5/635630p1.html
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 24, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
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Post by: holla45 on July 24, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
Post by: Carlo210 on July 24, 2005, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 24 2005, 05:49 AM)
hahahaha
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Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE(fatlip180 @ Jul 24 2005, 04:30 PM)
IMO anything sony is garbage, cheaply made (half of it not made by sony in the first place) and poor service
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Post by: Andy51 on July 24, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 24, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(esc1 @ Jul 24 2005, 06:43 PM)
Keep dreaming. I'll dream with you as well, but Zelda is a Nintendo franchise, not a 2nd party like Capcon.
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Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
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Andy, you still holding onto that theory?
I forgot all about it until you just mentioned it.
has there been any new rumors as of late? just curious
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Post by: SickJoda on July 24, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
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imm looking for some Xbox360 videos? who can hook me up?
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Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
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for RE 5?
there are none, yet.
there might be some popping up this week because MS had their conference there sunday.
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Post by: SickJoda on July 25, 2005, 12:02:00 AM
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FOR THE X360
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Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 07:19:00 PM
I forgot all about it until you just mentioned it.
has there been any new rumors as of late? just curious
Post by: SickJoda on July 24, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 24, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
there are none, yet.
there might be some popping up this week because MS had their conference there sunday.
Post by: SickJoda on July 25, 2005, 12:02:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 12:28:00 AM
QUOTE(SickJoda @ Jul 25 2005, 04:13 AM)
FOR THE X360
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 25, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
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My fellow DEF brother, could you stop saying things like this. There is not one good reason in there. I would consider M$ Windows to be overpriced crap. I felt that way long before they ever thought of making a console. None of that made me brush off the xbox.
for you
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Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
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if I wasnt a home theatre guru and didnt know the truth about sony, things might be different, I might be a zombie, but thats just not the case The evil empire must be squashed.
if you saw the list of hated gear, you'd laugh.
bose and cerwin vega are at the top
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 25, 2005, 09:21:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 25, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 24 2005, 02:36 PM)
I despised Sony when my Home Theatre obsession started about 15 years ago. Their speakers/receivers, you name it, were/are all overpriced crap.
Thats when my dislike for them started, had nothing to do with their consoles. How could it? It wouldnt be for another 5 years until the ps1 hit.
Thats when my dislike for them started, had nothing to do with their consoles. How could it? It wouldnt be for another 5 years until the ps1 hit.
My fellow DEF brother, could you stop saying things like this.
There is not one good reason in there. I would consider M$ Windows to be overpriced crap. I felt that way long before they ever thought of making a console. None of that made me brush off the xbox. for you
Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 09:00:00 AM
if I wasnt a home theatre guru and didnt know the truth about sony, things might be different, I might be a zombie, but thats just not the case
The evil empire must be squashed. if you saw the list of hated gear, you'd laugh.
bose and cerwin vega are at the top
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 25, 2005, 09:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 25 2005, 11:11 AM)
well I wish I could be like you, but I wont give sony $$. Even If I didnt despise the company, I am not a hardcore gamer like a lot of you, meaning I dont have the time to have all systems and try to fit playtime in for all of them. IF ALL of my fav games left the MS camp, thats the only reason Id get a sony console. why am I discussing this again.
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Post by: SickJoda on July 25, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
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Post by: SickJoda on July 25, 2005, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 25 2005, 12:39 AM)
@$$
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Post by: Andy51 on July 25, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 25, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 25 2005, 03:30 AM)
Andy, you still holding onto that theory?
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Post by: incognegro on July 25, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
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Post by: spearfree on July 25, 2005, 10:59:00 AM
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Post by: incognegro on July 25, 2005, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: spearfree on July 25, 2005, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Twasi @ Jul 20 2005, 02:49 PM)
Well we got one of the biggest games ported from PS2 (FFXi) now we are getting an original woohoo, I hope it sells good, alot of great games have been ported to xbox that have done incredible on other systems but failed to sell on Xbox because of the fanbase Although you see alot more of that with GC to PS2 or PS2 to GC but anyways great news.
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Post by: spearfree on July 25, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
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Although you see alot more of that with GC to PS2 or PS2 to GC but anyways great news.Post by: spearfree on July 25, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Jul 25 2005, 06:43 PM)
anything the ps3 can do, so can the 360............so with that in mind; i hope those ps3 demos actually become real time!
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 25, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
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those demos weren't running on a PS3...
they were running on THIS:
So really it will be making the conversion from full on oven to a portable grill
honestly holla45 I completely didn't understand the point of your posts, not to mention I was quite offended your blanket statements grouping us all as "you xbox fans". I consider myself an Xbox fan, as SHOULD everyone on this site. If you're on this site and NOT an Xbox fan... well then I should recommend you leave because you obviously wont find like minded individuals here.
As for my PERSONAL opioin... Let's put it this way. the PS3 will be powerful, whether it is more or less powerful than the 360 has yet to be seen, considering NEITHER consoles is complete. In the past Sony products have made me loose a considerable amount of faith in the performance of their video game products. I had several PS1s and PS2s break on me... Infact Sony consoles are the only consoles I have ever owned that have ever broken. Think about that for a second... I have a literal museum of consoles at my disposal... and the only 2 out of the many many many brands and models of consoles that I own that have broken are also the only two made by Sony.
I'm not saying this is true for all people's experiences, but that's where my personal judgment comes from, and from what I've gathered it's pretty similar to the experience of others.
Another thing is Sony's past record on what they promise and what they deliver. In the past with the PS1 and PS2 at E3 the made promises that never came to life in the console they delivered.
Lets give and example shall we? At the E3 before the PS2 launch they showed a "built to spec clip" of Final Fantasy VIII... I'm sure someone could find a link but the clip honestly looks better than all but one or two of the latest PS2 games. Not only that but Sony promised that "within 6 months of the Japanese launch" they were going to offer a hard drive and ethernet port and launch their online gaming service, that would allow you to download new content as well as browse the web and share photos etc...
I assume you have a PS2 so let me ask you... did they deliver the online gaming service anywhere near the time they promised? Can you do any of things (like download content and share pictures, etc.) with the even the LATEST PS2 model? the answer is quite simply NO.
This is fine, I don't really care that the PS2 doesn't have those features, I have my PS2 and the games I like and that's why I bought it. The point is they didn't deliver what they promised. Whether they lied or they couldn't meet their own expectations doesn't matter, the fact is they said one thing and did another. MS on the other hand has delivered TO THE LETTER everything they have promised. The games all looked close to what they'd promised, they delivered all the accessories and services when they promised and with the features that they promised... and then some.
Here's a little example for you...
lets say there's a river and a bridge over the river... the bridge builder... lets call him Kataragi says "take my PS1 bridge, it is very safe". so you take the bridge and it's got some holes in it, and definitely not safe, but it does get you across the river so that's fine.
A few years later you come to the same river and there is Mr Kataragi again... he says "take my new PS2 bridge, it's much better than the PS1 bridge and much safer" So you take the bridge and again there are holes and it's not very safe, it still gets you across the river but it took longer than Mr Kataragi said it would, but again it wasn't safe either.
Soon after you arrive at the river again and there is a second bridge, the bridge builder, lets call him Allard, says "take my Xbox bridge, it's very safe". So you take the bridge, and WOW he was honest... his bridge was very safe indeed! and you got across in good time like he promised you would.
Now you're coming up to the river again... you have Mr Kataragi and Mr Allard both saying "take my new bridge, it's much better than the old one"
Sure there is a chance that the PS3 bridge is actually safer than the Xbox360 bridge this time.... but what has history taught you?
If Sony was a personal friend of yours and they couldn't keep their most important promises, betraying your trust how good would your friendship be?
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: holla45 on July 25, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 25, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
they were running on THIS:
So really it will be making the conversion from full on oven to a portable grill
honestly holla45 I completely didn't understand the point of your posts, not to mention I was quite offended your blanket statements grouping us all as "you xbox fans". I consider myself an Xbox fan, as SHOULD everyone on this site. If you're on this site and NOT an Xbox fan... well then I should recommend you leave because you obviously wont find like minded individuals here.
As for my PERSONAL opioin... Let's put it this way. the PS3 will be powerful, whether it is more or less powerful than the 360 has yet to be seen, considering NEITHER consoles is complete. In the past Sony products have made me loose a considerable amount of faith in the performance of their video game products. I had several PS1s and PS2s break on me... Infact Sony consoles are the only consoles I have ever owned that have ever broken. Think about that for a second... I have a literal museum of consoles at my disposal... and the only 2 out of the many many many brands and models of consoles that I own that have broken are also the only two made by Sony.
I'm not saying this is true for all people's experiences, but that's where my personal judgment comes from, and from what I've gathered it's pretty similar to the experience of others.
Another thing is Sony's past record on what they promise and what they deliver. In the past with the PS1 and PS2 at E3 the made promises that never came to life in the console they delivered.
Lets give and example shall we? At the E3 before the PS2 launch they showed a "built to spec clip" of Final Fantasy VIII... I'm sure someone could find a link but the clip honestly looks better than all but one or two of the latest PS2 games. Not only that but Sony promised that "within 6 months of the Japanese launch" they were going to offer a hard drive and ethernet port and launch their online gaming service, that would allow you to download new content as well as browse the web and share photos etc...
I assume you have a PS2 so let me ask you... did they deliver the online gaming service anywhere near the time they promised? Can you do any of things (like download content and share pictures, etc.) with the even the LATEST PS2 model? the answer is quite simply NO.
This is fine, I don't really care that the PS2 doesn't have those features, I have my PS2 and the games I like and that's why I bought it. The point is they didn't deliver what they promised. Whether they lied or they couldn't meet their own expectations doesn't matter, the fact is they said one thing and did another. MS on the other hand has delivered TO THE LETTER everything they have promised. The games all looked close to what they'd promised, they delivered all the accessories and services when they promised and with the features that they promised... and then some.
Here's a little example for you...
lets say there's a river and a bridge over the river... the bridge builder... lets call him Kataragi says "take my PS1 bridge, it is very safe". so you take the bridge and it's got some holes in it, and definitely not safe, but it does get you across the river so that's fine.
A few years later you come to the same river and there is Mr Kataragi again... he says "take my new PS2 bridge, it's much better than the PS1 bridge and much safer" So you take the bridge and again there are holes and it's not very safe, it still gets you across the river but it took longer than Mr Kataragi said it would, but again it wasn't safe either.
Soon after you arrive at the river again and there is a second bridge, the bridge builder, lets call him Allard, says "take my Xbox bridge, it's very safe". So you take the bridge, and WOW he was honest... his bridge was very safe indeed! and you got across in good time like he promised you would.
Now you're coming up to the river again... you have Mr Kataragi and Mr Allard both saying "take my new bridge, it's much better than the old one"
Sure there is a chance that the PS3 bridge is actually safer than the Xbox360 bridge this time.... but what has history taught you?
If Sony was a personal friend of yours and they couldn't keep their most important promises, betraying your trust how good would your friendship be?
Post by: holla45 on July 25, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 25 2005, 02:17 PM)
those demos weren't running on a PS3...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 25, 2005, 12:01:00 PM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 25, 2005, 12:01:00 PM
QUOTE(holla45 @ Jul 25 2005, 01:50 PM)
Are you serious how many times did i say it i never said it was running on ps3 hardware,plus i do like xbox cause of xbmc and emu's only
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: holla45 on July 25, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
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Post by: holla45 on July 25, 2005, 12:09:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 25 2005, 03:12 PM)
OY!... you're obviously new here... the comment about the PS3 demos not running on actual hardware... IT WAS A JOKe besides only the text after your name is directed at you...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
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besides only the text after your name is directed at you... Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy51 @ Jul 25 2005, 02:13 PM)
Why not? M$ has like 55 billion in reserve and shit man...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Infamous_One on July 25, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
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Thompsons DVD Drives were fixed and replaced by MS for free , Power Cords are given free , hard drives are fixed and replace depending on your warranty.
They never said Downloading Games through live , they said Download Games Updates , like maps , weapons , fixes , ect.
But right now you can download XBox LIVE Arcade Games.
Do you have an XBox HD Adapter and a HDTV? if you do then insert a game and play Hi Def games.
They never said Toy Story graphics only SONY said that.
HALO 2 E3 DEMO was only that, a DEMO , an incomplete work that can change while it is being developed.
MICROS0FT is my friend , they have never lied to me , they always give me fixes for free for my WindowsXP OS and XBox LIVE experience. and soon Windows Vista OS.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 25, 2005, 10:29:00 PM
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I agree with just about everything Twisted said.
One of the main reasons why I dislike SCEA is because of their false promises and their willingness to continue to lie to people.
Personally, Sony's products have gone down the drain.
It's not just me though, but many people have noticed the decline in their product quality across the board in their organization.
Their Playstation products have always been bad in terms of quality from day one.
And hearing Ken admit that there will be faulty PS3's pretty much did it for me.
And last but not least, I'm a Sega fan boy so it's pretty much f#%k Sony for life in my book....
Now, did my personal perception of Sony keep me from buying a PSX and a PS2?
Of coarse not. It's all about the games and I didn't want to be left out.
(AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER HEAR FROM SONY FANBOYS REGARDING THE XBOX OR THE GAMECUBE)
I loved FF7 and Metal Gear for the PSX, and I loved Ico and God of War for the PS2. But I will say one thing, 2 games isn't gonna cut it for me this time around.
My PS2's been collecting dust for a long time and I don't want a $400-$500 dust collector sitting in my living room.
It's going to take a lot for me to buy a Playstation product this time around.
And total domination, in a form of a video game monopoly is the only chance Sony has this time around.
So it's pretty much bye bye Playstation for me and hello Xbox 360 and Nintendo Revolution!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: KAGE360 on July 25, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
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there is a difference in showing an unfinished game and showing a PRE-RENDERED movie and avoiding the fact that its not real time.
i have been through 3 xboxs all because of the drives, but that doesnt bother me as MS LEARNS from their mistakes. remember how many ps1's crapped out on people?? the same happened for ps2. if your expecting different with the ps3 (with their faulty cell chips and early blue ray drives) your smoking something brother.
unless its an overpriced TV everything from sony is crap, thats my 2 cents.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Infamous_One on July 26, 2005, 06:47:00 AM
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Post by: Infamous_One on July 25, 2005, 06:41:00 PM
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xbox's due to crappy dvd drives/hard drives/power cords?
Thompsons DVD Drives were fixed and replaced by MS for free , Power Cords are given free , hard drives are fixed and replace depending on your warranty.
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Absolute bull. MS delivered TO THE LETTER? Whatever happened to downloading games through xblive as well as MMORPGs? Where are all the high def games? Where are the toy story graphics (yup, MS promised this too)?
The games all look like what they promised?! As examples, MS showed videos and pictures of Halo 2 and Fable that contained levels, graphics, and gameplay that were nowhere to be found in the final retail games.
The games all look like what they promised?! As examples, MS showed videos and pictures of Halo 2 and Fable that contained levels, graphics, and gameplay that were nowhere to be found in the final retail games.
They never said Downloading Games through live , they said Download Games Updates , like maps , weapons , fixes , ect.
But right now you can download XBox LIVE Arcade Games.
Do you have an XBox HD Adapter and a HDTV? if you do then insert a game and play Hi Def games.
They never said Toy Story graphics only SONY said that.
HALO 2 E3 DEMO was only that, a DEMO , an incomplete work that can change while it is being developed.
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Neither Sony nor MS is my friend. They provide a product that I can purchase.
Sony has lied.
MS has lied just as much.
Sony has lied.
MS has lied just as much.
MICROS0FT is my friend , they have never lied to me , they always give me fixes for free for my WindowsXP OS and XBox LIVE experience. and soon Windows Vista OS.
Post by: miggidy on July 25, 2005, 10:29:00 PM
One of the main reasons why I dislike SCEA is because of their false promises and their willingness to continue to lie to people.
Personally, Sony's products have gone down the drain.
It's not just me though, but many people have noticed the decline in their product quality across the board in their organization.
Their Playstation products have always been bad in terms of quality from day one.
And hearing Ken admit that there will be faulty PS3's pretty much did it for me.
And last but not least, I'm a Sega fan boy so it's pretty much f#%k Sony for life in my book....
Now, did my personal perception of Sony keep me from buying a PSX and a PS2?
Of coarse not. It's all about the games and I didn't want to be left out.
(AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WILL NEVER HEAR FROM SONY FANBOYS REGARDING THE XBOX OR THE GAMECUBE)
I loved FF7 and Metal Gear for the PSX, and I loved Ico and God of War for the PS2. But I will say one thing, 2 games isn't gonna cut it for me this time around.
My PS2's been collecting dust for a long time and I don't want a $400-$500 dust collector sitting in my living room.
It's going to take a lot for me to buy a Playstation product this time around.
And total domination, in a form of a video game monopoly is the only chance Sony has this time around.
So it's pretty much bye bye Playstation for me and hello Xbox 360 and Nintendo Revolution!
Post by: Deftech on July 25, 2005, 10:52:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jul 25 2005, 03:17 PM)
those demos weren't running on a PS3...
they were running on THIS:
So really it will be making the conversion from full on oven to a portable grill
they were running on THIS:
So really it will be making the conversion from full on oven to a portable grill
Post by: KAGE360 on July 25, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
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OK, let me get this straight, so when Sony shows something that doesn't make it into the final game, they are called liars but when MS does this it is just a DEMO, an 'incomplete work'? Right...
there is a difference in showing an unfinished game and showing a PRE-RENDERED movie and avoiding the fact that its not real time.
i have been through 3 xboxs all because of the drives, but that doesnt bother me as MS LEARNS from their mistakes. remember how many ps1's crapped out on people?? the same happened for ps2. if your expecting different with the ps3 (with their faulty cell chips and early blue ray drives) your smoking something brother.
unless its an overpriced TV everything from sony is crap, thats my 2 cents.
Post by: Infamous_One on July 26, 2005, 06:47:00 AM
QUOTE(MightyZim @ Jul 26 2005, 06:29 AM)
No different for anyone else. The original post was about the stuff breaking, not about warranties.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
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You act superior yet bring the same childish arguments. When will it get through your thick skulls that consoles die. Once again, $ony with four times the consoles sales has the most failure rate, or is it just failure numbers. I would bet money to say that for every four dead PS2's there is one dead xbox. Which would give them the exact same failure rate.
Yes M$ lied, but you guys will just ignore it, like your $ony Zombie counterparts.
So M$ lied about their first system, that should give you great trust. Come to think about it, M$ lies about every single product they make. How are they any different?
The SEGA argument is ignorant in my mind. SEGA killed themselves, but lets blaim $ony.
Interesting sales figure facts as of 4/10/2001
$ony PSX = 72M
$ony PS2 = 12M
Dreamcast = 11M
Nintendo64 = 31M
Hold on SEGA was only one million units behind $ony and somehow it is $ony's fault they went down the drain. Did you ever think that even the Nintendo fanboys contributed aswell? Maybe the GD-Rom with a whole GB of space? Even the GC discs hold more than that. What about the lackluster games. Stop kidding yourselves there were only a select few Dreamcast games that broke new grounds. Otherwise you were just playing a "prettier" altered clone of other games.
Maybe people followed $ony and Nintendo because in the 32/64-bit era they both broke new grounds with their games, while SEGA did next to nothing with the Saturn. SEGA had one main problem.........developer support. Even as the first 128-bit system, they had little developer support. I wonder why they had little developer support, perhaps their past failures played into that.
SEGA is a software company now anyways. We still get to play their games. We just don't get to play their system. Many of us bought the NFL 2K series every year for our PS2 or Xbox. Was it any different than playing it on their system. Well yes, the PS2 and Xbox versions of were better.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
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This thread is better than TV !!
"hmmmmmmm yea"
wait, HOLD UP!!!! *spews and saliva everywhere*
WTF did he just say!?
:O
he cant be serious about that statement!?
OMG he is really that stupid!?
why is it this guy always starts off good and then goes into some rant consisting of utter donkey dung.......i can literally smell the jackass in him!
listen def (wow, that doesnt make much sense...lol) you maybe right on somethings in that post (especially about blaming sony for sega's shortcomings) but no need to disrespect one of the best systems ever (not a sega fan by the way) especially if your gonna use ignorance as your basis. the dreamcast is the most diverse and fun system since the original nes, it had originality oozing out of its (which is expected if its made by sega) azz, they are so many gems on that system its ridiculous. They actually had pretty good developer support with the dreamcast (well maybe not ea and square) and there was nothing lackluster about the games at all. It had the most capcom (and best) games, great rpgs (grandia, skies of arcadia) originality (seganet, shenmue and most sega games) good fps's (unreal, quake) Phenomenol homebrew support (only bested by the xbox scene) puzzle (chu chu rocket) action adventure (head hunter, resident evil ; CV).............i could go on.
yes theyre were some pretty ports on the system but to fault the system for that its pretty low. What if i said the ps2 is just has low quality versions of xbox games!?
Play my dc to this day!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 26, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
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Finally Resident Evil on the Xbox without using a Emulator. I hope this one is more like RE4. I am getting this one for sure those screen's look awsome and the trailer is nice.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 26, 2005, 09:18:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
You act superior yet bring the same childish arguments. When will it get through your thick skulls that consoles die. Once again, $ony with four times the consoles sales has the most failure rate, or is it just failure numbers. I would bet money to say that for every four dead PS2's there is one dead xbox. Which would give them the exact same failure rate.
Yes M$ lied, but you guys will just ignore it, like your $ony Zombie counterparts.
So M$ lied about their first system, that should give you great trust. Come to think about it, M$ lies about every single product they make. How are they any different?
The SEGA argument is ignorant in my mind. SEGA killed themselves, but lets blaim $ony.
Interesting sales figure facts as of 4/10/2001
$ony PSX = 72M
$ony PS2 = 12M
Dreamcast = 11M
Nintendo64 = 31M
Hold on SEGA was only one million units behind $ony and somehow it is $ony's fault they went down the drain.
Did you ever think that even the Nintendo fanboys contributed aswell? Maybe the GD-Rom with a whole GB of space? Even the GC discs hold more than that. What about the lackluster games. Stop kidding yourselves there were only a select few Dreamcast games that broke new grounds. Otherwise you were just playing a "prettier" altered clone of other games.Maybe people followed $ony and Nintendo because in the 32/64-bit era they both broke new grounds with their games, while SEGA did next to nothing with the Saturn. SEGA had one main problem.........developer support. Even as the first 128-bit system, they had little developer support. I wonder why they had little developer support, perhaps their past failures played into that.
SEGA is a software company now anyways. We still get to play their games. We just don't get to play their system. Many of us bought the NFL 2K series every year for our PS2 or Xbox. Was it any different than playing it on their system. Well yes, the PS2 and Xbox versions of were better.
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 08:08:00 AM
*This thread is better than TV !!
"hmmmmmmm yea"
wait, HOLD UP!!!!
*spews and saliva everywhere*WTF did he just say!?
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What about the lackluster games. Stop kidding yourselves there were only a select few Dreamcast games that broke new grounds
:O he cant be serious about that statement!?
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Maybe people followed $ony and Nintendo because in the 32/64-bit era they both broke new grounds with their games, while SEGA did next to nothing with the Saturn. SEGA had one main problem.........developer support. Even as the first 128-bit system, they had little developer support. I wonder why they had little developer support, perhaps their past failures played into that.
SEGA is a software company now anyways. We still get to play their games. We just don't get to play their system. Many of us bought the NFL 2K series every year for our PS2 or Xbox. Was it any different than playing it on their system. Well yes, the PS2 and Xbox versions of were better.
SEGA is a software company now anyways. We still get to play their games. We just don't get to play their system. Many of us bought the NFL 2K series every year for our PS2 or Xbox. Was it any different than playing it on their system. Well yes, the PS2 and Xbox versions of were better.
OMG he is really that stupid!?
why is it this guy always starts off good and then goes into some rant consisting of utter donkey dung.......i can literally smell the jackass in him!
listen def (wow, that doesnt make much sense...lol) you maybe right on somethings in that post (especially about blaming sony for sega's shortcomings) but no need to disrespect one of the best systems ever (not a sega fan by the way) especially if your gonna use ignorance as your basis. the dreamcast is the most diverse and fun system since the original nes, it had originality oozing out of its (which is expected if its made by sega) azz, they are so many gems on that system its ridiculous. They actually had pretty good developer support with the dreamcast (well maybe not ea and square) and there was nothing lackluster about the games at all. It had the most capcom (and best) games, great rpgs (grandia, skies of arcadia) originality (seganet, shenmue and most sega games) good fps's (unreal, quake) Phenomenol homebrew support (only bested by the xbox scene) puzzle (chu chu rocket) action adventure (head hunter, resident evil ; CV).............i could go on.
yes theyre were some pretty ports on the system but to fault the system for that its pretty low. What if i said the ps2 is just has low quality versions of xbox games!?
Play my dc to this day!
Post by: XBL_SUCKS on July 26, 2005, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: miggidy on July 26, 2005, 09:18:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jul 26 2005, 03:36 PM)
I love how you M$ Cheerleaders are no different than $ony Zombies.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
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I would not argue as it is true. Any game this is on both is better on xbox except for one. Dont ask me why the PS2 verison of NCAA 2005 was better than the xbox one.
Did you notice your own ignorance throughout your post? Most games you mentioned were made by SEGA. Nothing is stopping more SEGA games...............as they are only a software company now and make games for all systems.
Resident Evil CV is not worthy of any praise unless you are an RE fan. Lets be real, the same shite controls as RE 1, 2, 3, CV, and 0. Oh yes how we all love those controls. Resident Evil 4 is the first to break that very original design. RE CV would have been great if the RE story was put together well, instead of just lets continue to make games in this series. Lets see how crazy we can make the story. The first RE was good because the story was no some far fetched extension. How about how the beta version showed character damage, that would have been original, but no we didnt get it.
Seriously name some gems from that system that are not SEGA games. You will find yourself with a very short list.
Quake and Unreal..........don't make me laugh...........console shooters suck unless you don't have a nice PC.
Let me list some of what I called gems on the Dreamcast.
ChuChu Rocket - SEGA
Crazy Taxi - SEGA
F355 Challenge - SEGA
NFL 2K series - SEGA
NBA 2K series - SEGA
Phantasy Star - SEGA
SEGA Rally - SEGA
SEGA GT - SEGA
Shenmue - SEGA
Sonic Adventure - SEGA
Soul Calibur - Namco
Virtua Tennis - SEGA
Do you see a trend yet? There is no reason for those games to still not be made, seeing as SEGA is a software company now.
Now how about the list of games that were on PSX and/or N64 and were just prettier rehases
Dave Mira Freestyle BMX - PSX
Dino Crisis - PSX
Fighting Force 2 - PSX
GTA 2 - PSX
Jeremy Mcgrath Supercross 2000 - PSX and N64
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver - PSX
Marvel vs. Capcom - PSX
Matt Hoffman's Pro BMX - PSX
Nightmare Creature II - PSX
Rainbow Six - PSX and N64
Re-Volt - PSX and N64
Ready to Rumble Boxing 1&2 - PSX and N64
Resident Evil 2&3 - PSX and RE2 on N64 also
San Fransisco Rush 2049 - N64
Street Fighter Alpha 3 - PSX
Test Drive 6 - PSX
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1&2 - PSX and N64
Vigilante 8: Second Offense - PSX and N64
Virtua Cop 2 - Saturn WTF
Worms Armageddon - PSX and N64
Anyone else see the problem yet?
Great argument. I am a $ony fanboy because I used facts. Seeing as I own every system for each generation, I don't understand how I am a fanboy. Yes I have a Genesis, Saturn and a dreamcast. Yes I have a PSX and PS2. Yes I have a NES, SNES, N64, and a GC. And last but not least, yes I have an xbox. Guess what else, I like them all.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
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yes but nothing in your post takes away from how great a system the dc was and how much respect it deserves. even though they were mostly ports ( it had alot of ports because they were hot at the time, n64 and ps were still doing well; similar to how many ps2 ports the xbox has) and original sega games...........it still prove they had great dev support, original and diverse line up of games. Most of the games sega did after the dc didnt even come close to their dc counterparts anyways. oh yea i forgot about the best version of soul calibur and the best version of doa 2 (ultimate doesnt cut it imo). Anyways all i ask is a little respect for dc. it still a great console and nothing can be said to take away from that.
i got all the systems except the turbo grafx 16 (thank god for emulation) and the only ones i really dislike is the gc (well kinda) ps2 (most definitely) 3d0 (omg!!).
dont own handhelds........waste of money imo........
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 10:05:00 AM
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Once again, how am I coming off as a $ony fanboy since I am using facts? Does the truth hurt.........I think it does.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
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yea and millions of other people didnt bother to try it out
they managed to appeal to an anti sega person like me
anybody can find games on the dc they like and they did have a huge selection of games (I own 200 or so)......
The DC was underated (and still is apparently), not because i say so but cause you would be hard pressed to find someone that was disappointed in their purchase (I dont mean being disappointed cause it died too early). Those that thought ps2 was better were people that never tried the system at all or to its fullest and have a ps2. I guarantee you.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
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Interesting. I own a dreamcast. Before its demise, I owned no games for it. I was very disappointed in my purchase. I borrowed games from a friend, Soul Calibur and NFL 2K was all I liked, yet I still never bought any games. As for the PS2, I didnt even purchase it until after Gran Turismo 3 was released.
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Post by: MightyZim on July 26, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
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I can't believe I'm being forced to defend Sony, but this is silly. You're trying to argue with me about a game you haven't even played!
http://ps2movies.ign...emos/psx2_5.mpg
The animations suck and the characters are low poly and look terrible. I'd say the only thing it surpasses FFX in is the shadows. Sure it might have looked great in 1999 or 2000 or whenever it was shown, but its crap now.
Blah blah blah.
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 26, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 08:05:00 AM
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Crazy Taxi!!!
Phantasy Star
Shenmue
Sonic Adventure
Soul Calibur
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Jul 26 2005, 10:19 AM)
What if i said the ps2 is just has low quality versions of xbox games!?
I would not argue as it is true. Any game this is on both is better on xbox except for one. Dont ask me why the PS2 verison of NCAA 2005 was better than the xbox one.
QUOTE(incognegro)
listen def (wow, that doesnt make much sense...lol) you maybe right on somethings in that post (especially about blaming sony for sega's shortcomings) but no need to disrespect one of the best systems ever (not a sega fan by the way) especially if your gonna use ignorance as your basis. the dreamcast is the most diverse and fun system since the original nes, it had originality oozing out of its (which is expected if its made by sega) azz, they are so many gems on that system its ridiculous. They actually had pretty good developer support with the dreamcast (well maybe not ea and square) and there was nothing lackluster about the games at all. It had the most capcom (and best) games, great rpgs (grandia, skies of arcadia) originality (seganet, shenmue and most sega games) good fps's (unreal, quake) Phenomenol homebrew support (only bested by the xbox scene) puzzle (chu chu rocket) action adventure (head hunter, resident evil ; CV).............i could go on.
Did you notice your own ignorance throughout your post? Most games you mentioned were made by SEGA. Nothing is stopping more SEGA games...............as they are only a software company now and make games for all systems.
Resident Evil CV is not worthy of any praise unless you are an RE fan. Lets be real, the same shite controls as RE 1, 2, 3, CV, and 0. Oh yes how we all love those controls. Resident Evil 4 is the first to break that very original design.
RE CV would have been great if the RE story was put together well, instead of just lets continue to make games in this series. Lets see how crazy we can make the story. The first RE was good because the story was no some far fetched extension. How about how the beta version showed character damage, that would have been original, but no we didnt get it.Seriously name some gems from that system that are not SEGA games. You will find yourself with a very short list.
Quake and Unreal..........don't make me laugh...........console shooters suck unless you don't have a nice PC.
Let me list some of what I called gems on the Dreamcast.
ChuChu Rocket - SEGA
Crazy Taxi - SEGA
F355 Challenge - SEGA
NFL 2K series - SEGA
NBA 2K series - SEGA
Phantasy Star - SEGA
SEGA Rally - SEGA
SEGA GT - SEGA
Shenmue - SEGA
Sonic Adventure - SEGA
Soul Calibur - Namco
Virtua Tennis - SEGA
Do you see a trend yet? There is no reason for those games to still not be made, seeing as SEGA is a software company now.
Now how about the list of games that were on PSX and/or N64 and were just prettier rehases
Dave Mira Freestyle BMX - PSX
Dino Crisis - PSX
Fighting Force 2 - PSX
GTA 2 - PSX
Jeremy Mcgrath Supercross 2000 - PSX and N64
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver - PSX
Marvel vs. Capcom - PSX
Matt Hoffman's Pro BMX - PSX
Nightmare Creature II - PSX
Rainbow Six - PSX and N64
Re-Volt - PSX and N64
Ready to Rumble Boxing 1&2 - PSX and N64
Resident Evil 2&3 - PSX and RE2 on N64 also
San Fransisco Rush 2049 - N64
Street Fighter Alpha 3 - PSX
Test Drive 6 - PSX
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1&2 - PSX and N64
Vigilante 8: Second Offense - PSX and N64
Virtua Cop 2 - Saturn WTF
Worms Armageddon - PSX and N64
Anyone else see the problem yet?
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Why don't you remove the mask and reveal your true Sony fanboy identity already?
So put the Sony pompoms down for now
So put the Sony pompoms down for now
Great argument.
I am a $ony fanboy because I used facts. Seeing as I own every system for each generation, I don't understand how I am a fanboy. Yes I have a Genesis, Saturn and a dreamcast. Yes I have a PSX and PS2. Yes I have a NES, SNES, N64, and a GC. And last but not least, yes I have an xbox. Guess what else, I like them all.
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
i got all the systems except the turbo grafx 16 (thank god for emulation) and the only ones i really dislike is the gc (well kinda) ps2 (most definitely) 3d0 (omg!!).
dont own handhelds........waste of money imo........
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 10:05:00 AM
Post by: incognegro on July 26, 2005, 10:28:00 AM
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Without getting into this whole DC argument, I will say it's great that you like your DC. The problem is, millions of other people did not like it (or found the ps2 better). Just because the games are great to you does not mean they will be liked by tens of millions of other people. In order to sell a hundred million consoles, you need a huge collection of games that will appeal to many, many gamers. Clearly, Sega was unable to do this
yea and millions of other people didnt bother to try it out
they managed to appeal to an anti sega person like me
anybody can find games on the dc they like and they did have a huge selection of games (I own 200 or so)......
The DC was underated (and still is apparently), not because i say so but cause you would be hard pressed to find someone that was disappointed in their purchase (I dont mean being disappointed cause it died too early). Those that thought ps2 was better were people that never tried the system at all or to its fullest and have a ps2. I guarantee you.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 26, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Jul 26 2005, 12:39 PM)
yea and millions of other people didnt bother to try it out
What, many many people tried it out. QUOTE
they managed to appeal to an anti sega person like me
anybody can find games on the dc they like and they did have a huge selection of games (I own 200 or so)......
So you almost own the entire DC collection. anybody can find games on the dc they like and they did have a huge selection of games (I own 200 or so)......
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The DC was underated (and still is apparently), not because i say so but cause you would be hard pressed to find someone that was disappointed in their purchase (I dont mean being disappointed cause it died too early). Those that thought ps2 was better were people that never tried the system at all or to its fullest and have a ps2. I guarantee you.
Interesting. I own a dreamcast. Before its demise, I owned no games for it. I was very disappointed in my purchase. I borrowed games from a friend, Soul Calibur and NFL 2K was all I liked, yet I still never bought any games. As for the PS2, I didnt even purchase it until after Gran Turismo 3 was released.
Post by: MightyZim on July 26, 2005, 03:57:00 PM
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As for not playing FFX? No, turn-based RPG's don't cut it for me anymore.
I can't believe I'm being forced to defend Sony, but this is silly. You're trying to argue with me about a game you haven't even played!
http://ps2movies.ign...emos/psx2_5.mpg
The animations suck and the characters are low poly and look terrible. I'd say the only thing it surpasses FFX in is the shadows. Sure it might have looked great in 1999 or 2000 or whenever it was shown, but its crap now.
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one thing is certain, it's graphics were no where near that of what was shown at the E3 prior to the PS2's launch.
Blah blah blah.
Post by: Carlo210 on July 26, 2005, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 08:05:00 AM
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ChuChu Rocket - SEGA
Crazy Taxi - SEGA
F355 Challenge - SEGA
NFL 2K series - SEGA
NBA 2K series - SEGA
Phantasy Star - SEGA
SEGA Rally - SEGA
SEGA GT - SEGA
Shenmue - SEGA
Sonic Adventure - SEGA
Soul Calibur - Namco
Virtua Tennis - SEGA
Crazy Taxi - SEGA
F355 Challenge - SEGA
NFL 2K series - SEGA
NBA 2K series - SEGA
Phantasy Star - SEGA
SEGA Rally - SEGA
SEGA GT - SEGA
Shenmue - SEGA
Sonic Adventure - SEGA
Soul Calibur - Namco
Virtua Tennis - SEGA
Crazy Taxi!!!
Phantasy Star
Shenmue
Sonic Adventure
Soul Calibur
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
QUOTE(MightyZim @ Jul 27 2005, 06:45 PM)
Uhhhh everything? How can you compare a demo to a game when you haven't even played the game?
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Post by: Infamous_One on July 27, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
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Post by: Infamous_One on July 27, 2005, 10:38:00 AM
QUOTE(MightyZim @ Jul 27 2005, 06:45 PM)
Uhhhh everything? How can you compare a demo to a game when you haven't even played the game (and seen all the graphics of the game, not just a couple of screenshots)?
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
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Im not going back and seeing what this is all about, I have a yard to clean up after those storms rolled thru yesterday/lastnight. Anyone in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and PA knows what Im talking about
I think this place needs more
it brings harmony to an otherwise volatile community
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 11:39:00 AM
Im not going back and seeing what this is all about, I have a yard to clean up after those storms rolled thru yesterday/lastnight. Anyone in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and PA knows what Im talking about
I think this place needs more
it brings harmony to an otherwise volatile community
Post by: Carlo210 on July 27, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 12:23:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 27 2005, 04:28 PM)
The dude said Sony delivered with one of their target demos (the FF ballroom dance scene, he says FFX delivered in terms of graphics) shown at E3 prior to the PS2 launch. He was actually talking to Twisted but I just had to address his post.
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Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
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I'm on MSN converting Sony boys to Xbox guys...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 03:30:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 03:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy51 @ Jul 27 2005, 07:41 PM)
I'm on MSN converting Sony boys to Xbox guys...
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Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 27, 2005, 05:17:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 28 2005, 12:48 AM)
It looks like Capcom is asking every website to pull their RE5 video clip....
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Post by: MightyZim on July 27, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
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Maybe you should read the entire thread before making a comment like that. His not liking of the genre has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.
"But that's not the FFX demo, thats the ballroom Teaser Trailer, it was made to show a possibility on how it would look like..."
You don't get it, do you? Let me remind of the rest of the thread you should have read: Miggidy posted a small image of the ballroom demo followed by a craptastic screenshot of FFX. If you say that his two pictures prove that FFX looks 'nothing' like the ballroom demo then you must also agree with me that the two images I posted prove that the Halo 2 trailer looks 'nothing' like Halo 2. Otherwise you are a total hypocrite.
Just for completeness, let's compare to the E3 demo:
Define fanby.
For once I agree with you, I am making it worse for myself since more and more zombies keep coming at me. They keep blabbering "sony zombiessssss" while having no real arguments besides posting crappy pictures or writing off-topic comments that fail to take into consideration what we're talking about.
You cannot argue against what I have shown and so you resort to swearing. But I guess there is little alternative when you are losing an argument this badly.
"The cutscenes in the retail version of FFX look every bit as good, if not better than the E3 trailer"
... I still can't believe you're still writing this. Can't you realize that everything you are saying about Halo 2 can be applied to FFX?
50" Samsung widescreen DLP. Aside from the low resolution, it looked very nice indeed. Unfortunately, the game itself was nowhere near as good as Halo 1 (for its day) but I digress. I also recently replayed a few parts of FFX on it and it looked very good as well.
In case you still haven't caught on, I don't think Halo 2 looks bad at all. The only reason I posted those screens was to mock your silly comparison of FFX vs the ballroom scene.
All I keep seeing in these posts are the words "sony zombies" yet not a single real argument.
I can understand how someone can be anti-sony, but what I can't understand is how these same folks can turn around and kiss MS's ass when MS is obviously just as guilty of the same lies that they accuse Sony of.
But hey, at least now we know who all those annoying 13 year-olds on Live are!
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Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 11:04:00 PM
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Post by: incognegro on July 28, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
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ok fine.........MS is bad, sony is good
can you the shut the fuck up now!?
do the whole world a favor
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
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I would say M$ missed their target also.
The irony here is that xbox 360 comes closer to these xbox tech demos than the xbox ever did.
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Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
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theres no way in hell one of them said "every single xbox game will feature anti aliasing"
maybe they said "the xbox is capable of anti aliasing every game" ??
thats not a lie, and leaving it up to developers will always yield different results. I pray we are past those days.
Im sorry but Chaos Theory looks better than any tech demo that was shown for the xbox. So does Doom III on a whole.
Chaos Theory just oozed next gen, and there it was, looking and running better than any previous SC b4 it.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
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Bro, why did you respond as if I said M$ told us no jaggies on the xbox? All I did was watch the tech demos and think to myself, "I see no jaggies but have yet to see an xbox game like that." That would be why I made my comment on jaggies.
My whole post was to stop the childish fanboy crap. Both companies exaggerated. M$ is not innocent like some think. I want to make that very apparent. There is also two sides to every story. M$ fanboys do nothing but talk and post pics of the $ony tech demos and call $ony liars. Yet, they never seem to post xbox tech demo pics. You guys know, the ones that make M$ liars also. Strange isnt it?
Very true, MechAssualt 2 proved just that. It looked every bit as good during the cutscenes, with as you put it, "a gazillion jaggies".
On a side note: God of War is one of the best looking games I have ever seen on my HDTV, and it only ran in 480p. The only thing that comes close IMO is Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on xbox, it was about equal.
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Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
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Peter Moore said it this year for 360, so I wondered if maybe it was said back then too.
and why is this thread talking about tech demos that were shown 5 to 7 years ago( a year b4 each system launched).
has MS shown anything that was fake at this past E3 and said "this is real time" like sony did?
another serious question..did they? no sarcasm intended
they had games running on the floor, people complained that most looked poopy while very few looked stellar(ofcourse comparing it to the prerendered masterpiece known as shitsone 2) thats about all I remember from that.
I guess Im asking if MS did anything this past e3 as blatant as Sony did. That whole week is a blur in my mind
ahh, the joys of emotions and synthesizers and cells
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Post by: Andy51 on July 28, 2005, 04:22:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
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Post by: MightyZim on July 27, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
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If he doesn't like Turn Based rpgs, then that's why he wouldn't like the game. He doesn't have to play a game to say he doesn't or won't like it.
If I hate first Person Shooters, then why should I give half Life 2 a try? I don't like the game since it's a shooter.
If I hate first Person Shooters, then why should I give half Life 2 a try? I don't like the game since it's a shooter.
Maybe you should read the entire thread before making a comment like that. His not liking of the genre has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.
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Thats not the HALO 2 Demo , thats the HALO 2 Teaser Trailer , it was made to show a posibility on how it would look like. if you want to compare , compare it to the E3 Playable DEMO.
"But that's not the FFX demo, thats the ballroom Teaser Trailer, it was made to show a possibility on how it would look like..."
You don't get it, do you? Let me remind of the rest of the thread you should have read: Miggidy posted a small image of the ballroom demo followed by a craptastic screenshot of FFX. If you say that his two pictures prove that FFX looks 'nothing' like the ballroom demo then you must also agree with me that the two images I posted prove that the Halo 2 trailer looks 'nothing' like Halo 2. Otherwise you are a total hypocrite.
Just for completeness, let's compare to the E3 demo:
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You my friend, are an exposed PS2 fanby
Define fanby.
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Give up already, you're only making it worse for yourself.
For once I agree with you, I am making it worse for myself since more and more zombies keep coming at me. They keep blabbering "sony zombiessssss" while having no real arguments besides posting crappy pictures or writing off-topic comments that fail to take into consideration what we're talking about.
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My, a magician aren't you?
You keep pulling things out of your ass.
You keep pulling things out of your ass.
You cannot argue against what I have shown and so you resort to swearing. But I guess there is little alternative when you are losing an argument this badly.
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The cutscenes in the retail of version of Halo 2 look every bit as good, if not better than that E3 trailer.
"The cutscenes in the retail version of FFX look every bit as good, if not better than the E3 trailer"
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Have you checked out the cutscenes for yourself? They are running at a higher resolution than the ingame action.
... I still can't believe you're still writing this. Can't you realize that everything you are saying about Halo 2 can be applied to FFX?
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Now if you've answered yes to both questions, my last question would be, what kind of television did you play the game on?
50" Samsung widescreen DLP. Aside from the low resolution, it looked very nice indeed. Unfortunately, the game itself was nowhere near as good as Halo 1 (for its day) but I digress. I also recently replayed a few parts of FFX on it and it looked very good as well.
In case you still haven't caught on, I don't think Halo 2 looks bad at all. The only reason I posted those screens was to mock your silly comparison of FFX vs the ballroom scene.
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comparing the E3 teaser to an ingame shot?
compare it to an actual Halo 2 cutscene and they will look alike.
I apologize to the brothers for not seeing this sooner and speaking up.
And now we are supposed to try every game on the planet b4 we say "I dont or I wouldnt like that game"?
fuck that
Ive always hated turn based rpgs and always will. I dont need to fuggin try a new one to know I dislike it. I dont know what I despise more, FF games or Tekken(biggest pile on this planet) [hope that starts a new debate!] fuggers beerchug.gif
Im not going back and seeing what this is all about, I have a yard to clean up after those storms rolled thru yesterday/lastnight. Anyone in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and PA knows what Im talking about sad.gif
I think this place needs more pop.gif
it brings harmony to an otherwise volatile community
I wont comment, I broke a rib from laughing in disbelief someone actually said that.
Im also in conversation with a funny man via AIM, discussing possible goodies in DOA 4
The dude said Sony delivered with one of their target demos (the FF ballroom dance scene, he says FFX delivered in terms of graphics) shown at E3 prior to the PS2 launch. He was actually talking to Twisted but I just had to address his post.
Anyways, I feel for you bro.
Yard work is a bitch! Good luck with that.
if they are true zombies, it cannot be done. Hopefully they arent totally blinded.
Im a MS fanboy, yet atleast I acknowledge the fact that the ps3 will be a monster of a machine.
A Sony Zombie will argue with you till hes blue in the face and tell you that the ps1 is more powerful than the 360, let alone a ps3 to 360 comparison.
fuggin zombie wastes of skin
compare it to an actual Halo 2 cutscene and they will look alike.
I apologize to the brothers for not seeing this sooner and speaking up.
And now we are supposed to try every game on the planet b4 we say "I dont or I wouldnt like that game"?
fuck that
Ive always hated turn based rpgs and always will. I dont need to fuggin try a new one to know I dislike it. I dont know what I despise more, FF games or Tekken(biggest pile on this planet) [hope that starts a new debate!] fuggers beerchug.gif
Im not going back and seeing what this is all about, I have a yard to clean up after those storms rolled thru yesterday/lastnight. Anyone in Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, and PA knows what Im talking about sad.gif
I think this place needs more pop.gif
it brings harmony to an otherwise volatile community
I wont comment, I broke a rib from laughing in disbelief someone actually said that.
Im also in conversation with a funny man via AIM, discussing possible goodies in DOA 4
The dude said Sony delivered with one of their target demos (the FF ballroom dance scene, he says FFX delivered in terms of graphics) shown at E3 prior to the PS2 launch. He was actually talking to Twisted but I just had to address his post.
Anyways, I feel for you bro.
Yard work is a bitch! Good luck with that.
if they are true zombies, it cannot be done. Hopefully they arent totally blinded.
Im a MS fanboy, yet atleast I acknowledge the fact that the ps3 will be a monster of a machine.
A Sony Zombie will argue with you till hes blue in the face and tell you that the ps1 is more powerful than the 360, let alone a ps3 to 360 comparison.
fuggin zombie wastes of skin
All I keep seeing in these posts are the words "sony zombies" yet not a single real argument.
I can understand how someone can be anti-sony, but what I can't understand is how these same folks can turn around and kiss MS's ass when MS is obviously just as guilty of the same lies that they accuse Sony of.
But hey, at least now we know who all those annoying 13 year-olds on Live are!
Post by: Deftech on July 27, 2005, 11:04:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on July 28, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
can you the shut the fuck up now!?
do the whole world a favor
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
I would say M$ missed their target also.
The irony here is that xbox 360 comes closer to these xbox tech demos than the xbox ever did.
Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
theres no way in hell one of them said "every single xbox game will feature anti aliasing"
maybe they said "the xbox is capable of anti aliasing every game" ??
thats not a lie, and leaving it up to developers will always yield different results. I pray we are past those days.
Im sorry but Chaos Theory looks better than any tech demo that was shown for the xbox. So does Doom III on a whole.
Chaos Theory just oozed next gen, and there it was, looking and running better than any previous SC b4 it.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 03:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 28 2005, 04:19 PM)
did someone from MS, robbie, J or Peter, ever say that the xbox games would have no jaggies? and this generation would be the one to eliminate that problem? if so, Please post. I dont recall anyone saying such a thing, but that was a while ago and lord knows me memory isnt what it used to be. Its filled with sony hating thoughts which cloud my mind
theres no way in hell one of them said "every single xbox game will feature anti aliasing"
maybe they said "the xbox is capable of anti aliasing every game" ??
thats not a lie, and leaving it up to developers will always yield different results. I pray we are past those days.
theres no way in hell one of them said "every single xbox game will feature anti aliasing"
maybe they said "the xbox is capable of anti aliasing every game" ??
thats not a lie, and leaving it up to developers will always yield different results. I pray we are past those days.
Bro, why did you respond as if I said M$ told us no jaggies on the xbox? All I did was watch the tech demos and think to myself, "I see no jaggies but have yet to see an xbox game like that." That would be why I made my comment on jaggies.
My whole post was to stop the childish fanboy crap. Both companies exaggerated. M$ is not innocent like some think. I want to make that very apparent. There is also two sides to every story. M$ fanboys do nothing but talk and post pics of the $ony tech demos and call $ony liars. Yet, they never seem to post xbox tech demo pics. You guys know, the ones that make M$ liars also. Strange isnt it?
QUOTE(Deftech)
I think xbox could do the raven demo(if thats all that was on screen), just with a gazillion jaggies is all.
Very true, MechAssualt 2 proved just that. It looked every bit as good during the cutscenes, with as you put it, "a gazillion jaggies".
On a side note: God of War is one of the best looking games I have ever seen on my HDTV, and it only ran in 480p. The only thing that comes close IMO is Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on xbox, it was about equal.
Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
Peter Moore said it this year for 360, so I wondered if maybe it was said back then too.
and why is this thread talking about tech demos that were shown 5 to 7 years ago( a year b4 each system launched).
has MS shown anything that was fake at this past E3 and said "this is real time" like sony did?
another serious question..did they? no sarcasm intended
they had games running on the floor, people complained that most looked poopy while very few looked stellar(ofcourse comparing it to the prerendered masterpiece known as shitsone 2) thats about all I remember from that.
I guess Im asking if MS did anything this past e3 as blatant as Sony did. That whole week is a blur in my mind
ahh, the joys of emotions and synthesizers and cells
Post by: Andy51 on July 28, 2005, 04:22:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Andy51 @ Jul 28 2005, 08:33 PM)
FUCK IT PEOPLE! LETS ALL SAY THAT NOT ONE SINGLE CONSOLE HAS GRAPHICS LIKE THE TECH DEMOS BEFORE THE RELEASE THE THE CONSOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 04:46:00 PM
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Thats why you always should have more than one HDD.
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Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 28, 2005, 04:46:00 PM
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please refresh my memory. I had to wipe my harddrive a few weeks back and lost 5 gigs of E3 shit I had saved
Thats why you always should have more than one HDD.
Post by: Deftech on July 28, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jul 28 2005, 08:57 PM)
I believe the ATI/Ruby demo was their only tech demo for the 360.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 28, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
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Post by: miggidy on July 28, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
QUOTE(MightyZim @ Jul 28 2005, 10:46 PM)
I don't remember either Sony or MS 'promising' anything with their tech demos (and if they did, it still doesn't matter). A tech demo is just that --- a tech demo. In the case of the ballroom scene tech demo, FFX was able to achieve a similar result. If you want to be picky, then I'll say that other games like God of War have certainly surpassed it.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Andy51 on July 29, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
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Post by: Andy51 on July 29, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 29 2005, 12:55 AM)
step away kids, hes losing it!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: MightyZim on July 29, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
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I'm happy for you that you seem to have some sort of incredible video that the rest of the world does not know about. I have already posted screenshots as well as a link to the actual ballroom demo which plainly show that, for the most part, the ballroom demo graphics were inferior to those of FFX. But if you don't think so, that's your problem.
You posting a link to an article about the PS2 that is on an Xbox site is no different then if I were to post a link to an article on a PS2 site that claims it lived up to all its tech demos and that the xbox lived up to none. An Xbox site bashing the PS2 has about as much credibility as a PS2 site bashing the Xbox. In other words - none.
So no, I have no intention whatsoever of reading the teamxbox article.
You're also the same one who claims to 'see' that FFX does not come close to the ballroom demo.
What exactly does the PC version have to do with all this? And if that was a screenshot of the game running on my PC, I would be embarrassed to show it...
Just what exactly are you talking??? A 'huge' difference between the PC version and PS2 versions??? What does that have to do with this discussion? We aren't talking PC vs PS2 here, you know!
More shots from the PS2 version:
Resolution/textures aside, I don't see any "huge" difference unless your definition of "huge" is different from everyone else's. Certainly even in the worst case it is not any greater than, for example, the difference between a middle-range PC vs the Xbox version of Doom3 (and thats really pushing it). Regardless, what the PC version has to do with this is beyond me...
Actually the reason I came into this thread is because someone was.
Ooooh so now we're down to conspiracy theories. The Xbox division is pure and angelic and sony is the evil deceiver that turns people into sony zombies.
Grow up. The world is not black and white.
Both sides have tried to and have successfully 'deceived' the public. I don't know about you, but I certainly remember talking to one of my friends after he had seen that incredible first halo 2 trailer. His words were "OMG, did you see the graphics?!?! I'm gonna pre-order it, it's gonna be f----- sweet." (and like the millions of others, he did).
Now rewrite that sentence but replace every instance of 'PS2' with 'XBOX'.
What tech demos? Are you actually trying to say that NONE of the xbox or ps2 tech demos have been surpassed this generation?!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Carlo210 on July 29, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
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Post by: MightyZim on July 29, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
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I have the video clip sitting on my pc.
Do a quick search on Sharebear and you will find it.
FFX didn't even come close, the facial expressions are about the only thing that came close. Although the video clip graphics lack detailed textures, it's pretty obvious that it wasn't running on real time PS2 hardware, let alone specs.
As for God of war surpassing the tech demo?
No, I'll admit that the game has great graphics (one of this year's favorite games for me) but it still doesn't come off as good as the ballroom scene.
Again, you need to download a clean clip to see it for yourself, I've yet to see anything on the Xbox even achieve it's level. Not even Team Ninja's games.
Do a quick search on Sharebear and you will find it.
FFX didn't even come close, the facial expressions are about the only thing that came close. Although the video clip graphics lack detailed textures, it's pretty obvious that it wasn't running on real time PS2 hardware, let alone specs.
As for God of war surpassing the tech demo?
No, I'll admit that the game has great graphics (one of this year's favorite games for me) but it still doesn't come off as good as the ballroom scene.
Again, you need to download a clean clip to see it for yourself, I've yet to see anything on the Xbox even achieve it's level. Not even Team Ninja's games.
I'm happy for you that you seem to have some sort of incredible video that the rest of the world does not know about. I have already posted screenshots as well as a link to the actual ballroom demo which plainly show that, for the most part, the ballroom demo graphics were inferior to those of FFX. But if you don't think so, that's your problem.
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Check out what TeamXbox has to say about Sony's broken promises:
You posting a link to an article about the PS2 that is on an Xbox site is no different then if I were to post a link to an article on a PS2 site that claims it lived up to all its tech demos and that the xbox lived up to none. An Xbox site bashing the PS2 has about as much credibility as a PS2 site bashing the Xbox. In other words - none.
So no, I have no intention whatsoever of reading the teamxbox article.
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Depends and on your definition of close. All I see is the textures coming close to that of the demo.
You're also the same one who claims to 'see' that FFX does not come close to the ballroom demo.
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Here's the PC version of Silent Hill 3.
What exactly does the PC version have to do with all this? And if that was a screenshot of the game running on my PC, I would be embarrassed to show it...
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See the huge difference?
Just what exactly are you talking??? A 'huge' difference between the PC version and PS2 versions??? What does that have to do with this discussion? We aren't talking PC vs PS2 here, you know!
More shots from the PS2 version:
Resolution/textures aside, I don't see any "huge" difference unless your definition of "huge" is different from everyone else's. Certainly even in the worst case it is not any greater than, for example, the difference between a middle-range PC vs the Xbox version of Doom3 (and thats really pushing it). Regardless, what the PC version has to do with this is beyond me...
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Video game companies always enhance their pictures.
It used to be done through RGB back in the 16 bit days and now it's done with AA.
The Halo 2 screen shot you put up is of the same quality of what you see in Halo 2, minus the AA of coarse.
No one's denying this, and no one's denying that MS miss the mark with their Robot tech demo.
It used to be done through RGB back in the 16 bit days and now it's done with AA.
The Halo 2 screen shot you put up is of the same quality of what you see in Halo 2, minus the AA of coarse.
No one's denying this, and no one's denying that MS miss the mark with their Robot tech demo.
Actually the reason I came into this thread is because someone was.
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The thing that seperates M$'s Xbox division and Sony's SCEA/J division is Sony's intent to fool the public.
Ooooh so now we're down to conspiracy theories. The Xbox division is pure and angelic and sony is the evil deceiver that turns people into sony zombies.
Grow up. The world is not black and white.
Both sides have tried to and have successfully 'deceived' the public. I don't know about you, but I certainly remember talking to one of my friends after he had seen that incredible first halo 2 trailer. His words were "OMG, did you see the graphics?!?! I'm gonna pre-order it, it's gonna be f----- sweet." (and like the millions of others, he did).
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Those tech demos were never proven to be running on actual PS2 hardware so there's no way of knowing whether they can run in an optomized fashion on the PS2.
Now rewrite that sentence but replace every instance of 'PS2' with 'XBOX'.
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I've yet to see any current console surpass those tech demos
So I don't know where your comment came from.
So I don't know where your comment came from.
What tech demos? Are you actually trying to say that NONE of the xbox or ps2 tech demos have been surpassed this generation?!
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As for me having faith in tech demos? Tell that to the folks over at G4TV.
???
Post by: Carlo210 on July 29, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Jul 29 2005, 04:57 AM)
Check out what TeamXbox has to say about Sony's broken promises:
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 29, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
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anyone that sees a supposed real time pspoo screenshot and thinks its REAL, when its not filled with jaggies, is so far gone its just effing sad.
those pics can have PS2 stamped all the fug over them, but unless they are riddled with jaggies, then the pic is for show, and not taken from an actual ps2 running the game.
it cannot remove jaggies from a real time scene, whether its ingame play or a real time cut scene. The pics that keep getting posted of Silent Hill 3 are the best example possible. Those supposed ps2 pics lack jaggies, need I say more?
the damn xbox versions of SH 2 and 4 are riddled with them for shits sake!!
LMAO!! Look at the 2 recent pics Mighty whatever posted! Look at the guy int he BG! Smooth as shit! yeah go watch that fuggin scene on a ps2 and tell me it has no jaggies.
Look at the pic with just the girl, look how smooth the BG is! the walls...hahahaha
If you have eyes that see that exact scene, frame for frame, jaggy free, play out on your retail ps2, then youre a freak and should insure your eyes for 5 million $$. who needs HDTV when you have those freaky things.
I wish I had those kinds of eyes.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on July 29, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 29, 2005, 08:31:00 PM
those pics can have PS2 stamped all the fug over them, but unless they are riddled with jaggies, then the pic is for show, and not taken from an actual ps2 running the game.
it cannot remove jaggies from a real time scene, whether its ingame play or a real time cut scene. The pics that keep getting posted of Silent Hill 3 are the best example possible. Those supposed ps2 pics lack jaggies, need I say more?
the damn xbox versions of SH 2 and 4 are riddled with them for shits sake!!
LMAO!! Look at the 2 recent pics Mighty whatever posted! Look at the guy int he BG! Smooth as shit! yeah go watch that fuggin scene on a ps2 and tell me it has no jaggies.
Look at the pic with just the girl, look how smooth the BG is! the walls...hahahaha
If you have eyes that see that exact scene, frame for frame, jaggy free, play out on your retail ps2, then youre a freak and should insure your eyes for 5 million $$. who needs HDTV when you have those freaky things.
I wish I had those kinds of eyes.
Post by: miggidy on July 29, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
QUOTE(MightyZim @ Jul 30 2005, 12:07 AM)
I'm happy for you that you seem to have some sort of incredible video that the rest of the world does not know about. I have already posted screenshots as well as a link to the actual ballroom demo which plainly show that, for the most part, the ballroom demo graphics were inferior to those of FFX. But if you don't think so, that's your problem.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 12:09:00 AM
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well I hated all older RE's except for Veronica. I heard 4 was good, so they had better not change too much.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 02:09:00 AM
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A couple points i would like to make:
1) Most the ps2 game shots you view on your computer monitor are at a higher resolutions; both textures and overall picture. Just take a look at any gt4 screen shots, if they looked nearly that good on the ps2, i wouldn't even worry about next gen games. Also, just by simply viewing them on a computer monitor you are already upscaling the res to whatever you have your monitor set at; i.e., no scan lines like there is in 480p. This goes for xbox screen shots as well.
2) Halo 2's first announced trailer looks much better then what halo 2 really looks like. In the trailer there was amazing shadows; shelf shading, lighting; bloom effect and reflective light mapping, better animation, and real-time environment reflection in MC's visor. None of which was in the final build of halo 2. I'll be stoked if halo 3's graphics are that good.
3) E3's halo 2 playable demo was pretty much exactly what we got graphical with halo 2, minus a few negligible things; the shading/shadows still were not quite as good.
4) God of War is the best looking ps2 game i have ever seen/played. I love this game; so damn fun. That being said, the overall graphics are no where near as good as a handful of xbox games. Namely:
- Ninja Gaiden
- Halo 1
- Halo 2
- Riddick
- Thief
- Chaos theory
Ninja Gaiden is the most like GoW in terms of genre, skills, and both are damn hard; as long as you play GoW on the hard difficulty setting. NG blows GoW away in environment and character detail. The higher res textures in environment and characters make a huge difference.
The biggest problems i have with GoW is:
1) Low texture quality
2) Environments are unimpressive; all the systems horse power is going into the characters and the environments a pretty bland.
5) I too agree the ball room dance demo looks better then ffx. The characters in ffx look great, but the texture detail and facial animations is horrible; looks like puppets when talking. The other thing that bothers me with ffx's characters faces is how fake/perfect they are. There is no shading or depth in their faces like there is in a game like chaos theory, where bump/normal mapping is used. I'm referring to the in-game graphics and not the cgi/fmw.
Can the ps2 even do bump/normal mapping? I'm just curious, because i have not played/seen one yet.
6) I've never liked RE much either, because of the clunky, tank-like controls.
EDIT: I play my consoles on a PC monitor via a true vga transcoder. I get a better picture with my sony 19" flat screen crt then i do with my 36" sony HDTV. Just to let you know i'm not baising my opinions on a pos TV.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
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even PGR 2 is sexy.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 02:09:00 AM
A couple points i would like to make:
1) Most the ps2 game shots you view on your computer monitor are at a higher resolutions; both textures and overall picture. Just take a look at any gt4 screen shots, if they looked nearly that good on the ps2, i wouldn't even worry about next gen games. Also, just by simply viewing them on a computer monitor you are already upscaling the res to whatever you have your monitor set at; i.e., no scan lines like there is in 480p. This goes for xbox screen shots as well.
2) Halo 2's first announced trailer looks much better then what halo 2 really looks like. In the trailer there was amazing shadows; shelf shading, lighting; bloom effect and reflective light mapping, better animation, and real-time environment reflection in MC's visor. None of which was in the final build of halo 2. I'll be stoked if halo 3's graphics are that good.
3) E3's halo 2 playable demo was pretty much exactly what we got graphical with halo 2, minus a few negligible things; the shading/shadows still were not quite as good.
4) God of War is the best looking ps2 game i have ever seen/played. I love this game; so damn fun. That being said, the overall graphics are no where near as good as a handful of xbox games. Namely:
- Ninja Gaiden
- Halo 1
- Halo 2
- Riddick
- Thief
- Chaos theory
Ninja Gaiden is the most like GoW in terms of genre, skills, and both are damn hard; as long as you play GoW on the hard difficulty setting. NG blows GoW away in environment and character detail. The higher res textures in environment and characters make a huge difference.
The biggest problems i have with GoW is:
1) Low texture quality
2) Environments are unimpressive; all the systems horse power is going into the characters and the environments a pretty bland.
5) I too agree the ball room dance demo looks better then ffx. The characters in ffx look great, but the texture detail and facial animations is horrible; looks like puppets when talking. The other thing that bothers me with ffx's characters faces is how fake/perfect they are. There is no shading or depth in their faces like there is in a game like chaos theory, where bump/normal mapping is used. I'm referring to the in-game graphics and not the cgi/fmw.
Can the ps2 even do bump/normal mapping? I'm just curious, because i have not played/seen one yet.
6) I've never liked RE much either, because of the clunky, tank-like controls.
EDIT: I play my consoles on a PC monitor via a true vga transcoder. I get a better picture with my sony 19" flat screen crt then i do with my 36" sony HDTV. Just to let you know i'm not baising my opinions on a pos TV.
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
even PGR 2 is sexy.Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 01:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Mojiba @ Jul 30 2005, 05:31 PM)
Dude, maybe people are a little pissed up because you're basing most of your argumentation on something that you believe it's an uncorrupted fact, in this case this bunch of beauty pictures, but these pictures are not true to what we see in the ps2, this is the problem. They do not represent what the console can do, they have attributes that is not even possible to happen in the ps2, I think that if you really want to continue to support what you believe based on screenshots, you have to take your own screens or find a place that have them, wich is something very, very hard to find since most screens came from developers (like the ones you're using) or the ones that not are strangely blurry.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: thinkbox on July 30, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
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OMG this game is going to be frickin sweet!
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 30, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
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MightyZim-While I agree with you, just let it go. You are not going to persuade an xbox fan otherwise.
Miggidy-You also need to let it go as you will not persuade a $ony fan otherwise.
Deftech-You don't count. We know you are an xbox fanboy because you admit it and well, maybe thats why you and I get along so well.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
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Post by: thinkbox on July 30, 2005, 03:56:00 PM
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 30, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
MightyZim-While I agree with you, just let it go. You are not going to persuade an xbox fan otherwise.
Miggidy-You also need to let it go as you will not persuade a $ony fan otherwise.
Deftech-You don't count.
We know you are an xbox fanboy because you admit it and well, maybe thats why you and I get along so well.
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 30, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jul 31 2005, 01:52 AM)
MightyZim-While I agree with you, just let it go. You are not going to persuade an xbox fan otherwise.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 07:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jul 30 2005, 10:18 PM)
i'll be surprised even if the next gen consoles can surpass pc games. Here's to hopen otherwise.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 30, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
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Well the truth about any console is the size of the screen you are playing on. On a 13 inch TV the 640x480 resolution is crisp and you will see minimal jaggies. Now, if you take it to a big screen, like us with widescreen HDTV's, we see jaggies galore. I would say us FFX fans might be biased based on the fact that we loved the game and it looked beautiful to us none the less.
Well, if you are running at 1280x1024 or especially 1600x1200 on a 19 inch or below monitor AA is not needed. And Deftech, you know I was just fuckin with ya about the fanboyism.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: KAGE360 on July 30, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
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this argument will go on forever and ive tried to stay out of it but what the hell.....
mightyzim your right. your right that the xbox tech demos werent running on actual xbox hardware. they were running off of one of the first gforce 3 cards that was about to be out at the time, a card slower then whats actually in the xbox. the same cant be said about the ps2 however.
you are mistaken about what people are saying about the way MS and sony start their hype. you dont seem to understand that it is one thing to show pre-rendered footage (ps2 and ps3) and dodge the question of it being real time but MS was open to their demos being real time. in fact the raven demo ran with only 800,000 polys per second, im trying to find an old article to prove it because i know how you like people to back up their claims.
as for the first halo2 trailer, your friend should be too stupid to be playing games if he actually believed that the entire game would look that good. that was not a demo of the game at all but instead a technology demo of the different effects and technology that they were planning on using in the game. a controlled scene with no AI, enemies, physics, etc. will always look better then the actual game anyone who has been playing games and has a brain would know that. all those effect could still be in the game just dumbed down, that doesnt make them liers.
as for the screens of SH3, your a fool to believe that they are from the ps2 version of the game. most ways of advertisement use any other source other then the ps2 unless specifically noted. do you think that the screens and commercials of games are running off of a ps2??? no they are running on a xbox or pc because they look better. the same method has been used for years and years from even the last generation. i learned quick when i picked up a copy of tomb raider for saturn. i loved the game to death and thought it was beautiful
(for a saturn game), but look at the back of the box and you would see screens from the pc version. its wise advertisement from a business perspective to not use the ugliest version of the game to show the public.
call me a fanboy, zombie, or whatever you want. i have stated facts that you would know if you have been playing games for a while now. i do like MS, i like their more honest aproach to the next gen and i like it how my expectations are braught up to a real level. i do however read about the competition and take all the facts into account, something a fanboy would not do.
and deftech, i think that if applied right the gamecube could do normal mapping. as far as i know it is capable of doing bump-mapping and normal mapping is a form of bump mapping so it seems possible. i could be wrong however, maybe the gpu/cpu isnt powerful enough to support such an effect like the xbox. we'll never know as the gamecube is usually held back because of the ps2 when it comes to ports.
fact is that sony showed unreal and dodged any questions while microsft showed SOME unimpressive footage (anyone that says gears of war isnt next gen should be smacked) but admitted it was running on weak hardware. better to be suprised then dissapointed i always say.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Andy51 on July 30, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on July 30, 2005, 07:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Jul 30 2005, 08:18 PM)
You seem to be a level headed guy, deftones, but do you seriously believe that ffx overall graphics were as good as the ball room demo? I've stated reasons why i believe they are not above, and i couldn't give a rats ass which system it was on. Whether this was a ms or sony game, my judgment would still stand the same.
Well the truth about any console is the size of the screen you are playing on. On a 13 inch TV the 640x480 resolution is crisp and you will see minimal jaggies. Now, if you take it to a big screen, like us with widescreen HDTV's, we see jaggies galore. I would say us FFX fans might be biased based on the fact that we loved the game and it looked beautiful to us none the less.
QUOTE(Deftech)
I wont be surprised. PC's wont see the R520 core till after the 360 is launched, and even then, they arent getting the edram set up till mid 2006 supposedly. So until then, pc games will still take some sort of performance hit when running FSAA and other features. Just my opinion though, wtf do I know
Well, if you are running at 1280x1024 or especially 1600x1200 on a 19 inch or below monitor AA is not needed. And Deftech, you know I was just fuckin with ya about the fanboyism.
Post by: KAGE360 on July 30, 2005, 08:13:00 PM
mightyzim your right. your right that the xbox tech demos werent running on actual xbox hardware. they were running off of one of the first gforce 3 cards that was about to be out at the time, a card slower then whats actually in the xbox. the same cant be said about the ps2 however.
you are mistaken about what people are saying about the way MS and sony start their hype. you dont seem to understand that it is one thing to show pre-rendered footage (ps2 and ps3) and dodge the question of it being real time but MS was open to their demos being real time. in fact the raven demo ran with only 800,000 polys per second, im trying to find an old article to prove it because i know how you like people to back up their claims.
as for the first halo2 trailer, your friend should be too stupid to be playing games if he actually believed that the entire game would look that good. that was not a demo of the game at all but instead a technology demo of the different effects and technology that they were planning on using in the game. a controlled scene with no AI, enemies, physics, etc. will always look better then the actual game anyone who has been playing games and has a brain would know that. all those effect could still be in the game just dumbed down, that doesnt make them liers.
as for the screens of SH3, your a fool to believe that they are from the ps2 version of the game. most ways of advertisement use any other source other then the ps2 unless specifically noted. do you think that the screens and commercials of games are running off of a ps2??? no they are running on a xbox or pc because they look better. the same method has been used for years and years from even the last generation. i learned quick when i picked up a copy of tomb raider for saturn. i loved the game to death and thought it was beautiful
(for a saturn game), but look at the back of the box and you would see screens from the pc version. its wise advertisement from a business perspective to not use the ugliest version of the game to show the public.
call me a fanboy, zombie, or whatever you want. i have stated facts that you would know if you have been playing games for a while now. i do like MS, i like their more honest aproach to the next gen and i like it how my expectations are braught up to a real level. i do however read about the competition and take all the facts into account, something a fanboy would not do.
and deftech, i think that if applied right the gamecube could do normal mapping. as far as i know it is capable of doing bump-mapping and normal mapping is a form of bump mapping so it seems possible. i could be wrong however, maybe the gpu/cpu isnt powerful enough to support such an effect like the xbox. we'll never know as the gamecube is usually held back because of the ps2 when it comes to ports.
fact is that sony showed unreal and dodged any questions while microsft showed SOME unimpressive footage (anyone that says gears of war isnt next gen should be smacked) but admitted it was running on weak hardware. better to be suprised then dissapointed i always say.
Post by: Andy51 on July 30, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jul 31 2005, 03:57 AM)
I wont be surprised. PC's wont see the R520 core till after the 360 is launched, and even then, they arent getting the edram set up till mid 2006 supposedly. So until then, pc games will still take some sort of performance hit when running FSAA and other features. Just my opinion though, wtf do I know
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 09:01:00 PM
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 31, 2005, 03:05:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 30, 2005, 09:01:00 PM
Post by: Foe-hammer on July 31, 2005, 03:05:00 AM
QUOTE(portarock @ Jul 31 2005, 10:14 AM)
One thing I must correct though is that the ps2 can do normal mapping or more accurately will (if they live up to what they say).
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Deftech on July 31, 2005, 10:16:00 AM
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Post by: Deftech on July 31, 2005, 10:16:00 AM
QUOTE(portarock @ Jul 31 2005, 06:14 AM)
I just read this whole thread and I have come to the conclusion that Mighty is a blind zombie. I agree with both the Defs.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 31, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
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so yeah...
Resident Evil 5 looks pretty sweet...
I actually picked up a GC and RE4 on Thursday... RE4 is awesome and I'm getting psyched for RE5 now...
I didn't realize Capcom re-released all the RE games in the series on the GC. RE0, RE, RE2, RE:CV, and RE4. It will certainly be interesting if the Revolution is the only next gen console without an RE title considering they pretty much got the whole catalog this generation.
RE4 uses a completely different control/perspective setup than the previous RE titles... it makes me wonder that since they're bringing back the "old team" for RE5 if they're going to go back to the old control/perspective style or continue on with what they started in RE4.
For those of you who haven't played 4 the camera is like a cross between a 3rd person spy game and an FPS... in that it's external to the character but follows directly behind his right shoulder. For the most part it plays more naturally than past REs in that you have essentially the same POV as you would if you were really there (unlike past REs where you had a "God" view over the entire room). At times moving the camera around to look around can be kind of clumsy, and there's no strafing which is frustrating because you have to blind yourself in close quarter battles when turning to move sideways. Overall it's much better than the past REs though.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Shinamano on July 31, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
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The news of this game made my day...and the entire next generation. Resident Evil 4 was (next to the Halos) my favorite game of this generation. Yeah I have always been a fan the original made me and my friend collectively shit ourselves...and swear off guide books forever...
Not that we ever used them but we got stuck at the part with the plant...the book told us to just wait it out during the fight and the girl would run in with the flamethrower and take care of the plant...35 min and all of our health later was there a girl? No...just 35min of use getting slapped around like little bitches...
Anyway I hope that RE5 brings back the Mercenaries mode...it kicks ass if you have not unlocked it yet. Also I hope that RE5 has hundreds of zombies on screen at one time...
The only game I would get more excited about would be a new Street Fighter...I can dream...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 05:19:00 AM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 31, 2005, 07:53:00 PM
Resident Evil 5 looks pretty sweet...
I actually picked up a GC and RE4 on Thursday... RE4 is awesome and I'm getting psyched for RE5 now...
I didn't realize Capcom re-released all the RE games in the series on the GC. RE0, RE, RE2, RE:CV, and RE4. It will certainly be interesting if the Revolution is the only next gen console without an RE title considering they pretty much got the whole catalog this generation.
RE4 uses a completely different control/perspective setup than the previous RE titles... it makes me wonder that since they're bringing back the "old team" for RE5 if they're going to go back to the old control/perspective style or continue on with what they started in RE4.
For those of you who haven't played 4 the camera is like a cross between a 3rd person spy game and an FPS... in that it's external to the character but follows directly behind his right shoulder. For the most part it plays more naturally than past REs in that you have essentially the same POV as you would if you were really there (unlike past REs where you had a "God" view over the entire room). At times moving the camera around to look around can be kind of clumsy, and there's no strafing which is frustrating because you have to blind yourself in close quarter battles when turning to move sideways. Overall it's much better than the past REs though.
Post by: Shinamano on July 31, 2005, 09:12:00 PM
Not that we ever used them but we got stuck at the part with the plant...the book told us to just wait it out during the fight and the girl would run in with the flamethrower and take care of the plant...35 min and all of our health later was there a girl? No...just 35min of use getting slapped around like little bitches...
Anyway I hope that RE5 brings back the Mercenaries mode...it kicks ass if you have not unlocked it yet. Also I hope that RE5 has hundreds of zombies on screen at one time...
The only game I would get more excited about would be a new Street Fighter...I can dream...
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 05:19:00 AM
QUOTE(portarock @ Aug 1 2005, 02:23 AM)
Hey twisted I thought you were gonna wait for the Revolution? lol
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 06:11:00 AM
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twisted- get yourself the RE remake and MGS1: the twin snakes (remake)
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
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I plan on picking up a lot of games for it... before I do that I've got to call nintendo and trade in my new GC for an older one though
Apparently they removed the "Digital AV Port" on the newer versions of the GC. Without that port I can't get component out and without component out I can't get 480p. To me this is unacceptable Luckily Nintendo will trade your console for a refurbished unit with the necessary port... I hate to give up my shinny new toy right after I got it though
It's a good thing I haven't cracked the case open yet to look at modding it
Sort of back on topic:
It seems that this gen a few companies chose a particular platform to re-release all the games in a particular series.
For instance
Square-Enix re-released all (most of?) the old FF games on PS1, meaning that the whole collection can be played on a PS2.
Capcom re-released all the RE games for GC
Tecmo re-released the old DOAs on Xbox
With the next gen consoles all being BC it means the legacy will carry over. But it begs the question as to whether or not these companies plan on sticking with their chosen console brand to support their entire legacy on a single platform. Such as Square-Enix starting to make games for the 360 and Capcom bringing RE5 to PS3 and 360 with no mention of the Revolution. Will they stick with Sony and Nintendo respectively just to continue to have all of their games playable on a single console?
Just something to think about.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 07:41:00 AM
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That sux that you need to get a refurbished one. I remember when I got mine. I had to buy the component cable straight from Nintendo because I quote
I guess this makes sense as most GC owners are kids, but some of us A/V buffs find this unacceptable.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 06:11:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
I plan on picking up a lot of games for it... before I do that I've got to call nintendo and trade in my new GC for an older one though Apparently they removed the "Digital AV Port" on the newer versions of the GC. Without that port I can't get component out and without component out I can't get 480p. To me this is unacceptable
Luckily Nintendo will trade your console for a refurbished unit with the necessary port... I hate to give up my shinny new toy right after I got it though It's a good thing I haven't cracked the case open yet to look at modding it
Sort of back on topic:
It seems that this gen a few companies chose a particular platform to re-release all the games in a particular series.
For instance
Square-Enix re-released all (most of?) the old FF games on PS1, meaning that the whole collection can be played on a PS2.
Capcom re-released all the RE games for GC
Tecmo re-released the old DOAs on Xbox
With the next gen consoles all being BC it means the legacy will carry over. But it begs the question as to whether or not these companies plan on sticking with their chosen console brand to support their entire legacy on a single platform. Such as Square-Enix starting to make games for the 360 and Capcom bringing RE5 to PS3 and 360 with no mention of the Revolution. Will they stick with Sony and Nintendo respectively just to continue to have all of their games playable on a single console?
Just something to think about.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 07:41:00 AM
That sux that you need to get a refurbished one. I remember when I got mine. I had to buy the component cable straight from Nintendo because I quote
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we found that less than one percent of all Nintendo GameCube players used this feature.
I guess this makes sense as most GC owners are kids, but some of us A/V buffs find this unacceptable.
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 01, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Aug 1 2005, 09:52 AM)
Eh, the Gamecube isnt really worth modding, unless you are a complete pirate.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 11:19:00 AM
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Both of those remakes are top quality. RE Remake really does induce fear with the wicked GFX. MGS:TTS is the way MGS1 should have been
You know, I think you are right. ATI has always had the image quality lead over other GPU's, at least in the PC market. Heres to hoping the R520 continues that trend.
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 11:28:00 AM
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on August 01, 2005, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Aug 1 2005, 01:08 PM)
BTW looking at the MGS and RE remakes on GC... Those will definitly be my next two game purchaces...
Those will definitly be my next two game purchaces...Both of those remakes are top quality. RE Remake really does induce fear with the wicked GFX. MGS:TTS is the way MGS1 should have been
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The RE remake looks amazing (is it just me or are the GC's particle effects far and wide the best this generation. I've never seen more realistic flames or fog on a console)
(is it just me or are the GC's particle effects far and wide the best this generation. I've never seen more realistic flames or fog on a console)You know, I think you are right. ATI has always had the image quality lead over other GPU's, at least in the PC market. Heres to hoping the R520 continues that trend.
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 11:28:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Aug 1 2005, 04:04 AM)
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Shinamano @ Aug 1 2005, 05:23 AM)
The only game I would get more excited about would be a new Street Fighter...I can dream...
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: Shinamano on August 01, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
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Post by: Shinamano on August 01, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Aug 1 2005, 07:47 PM)
Which one would you rather see, a 3D Street Fighter 4 or a 2D Street Fighter 4?
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Title: Resident Evil 5
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 02:13:00 PM
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If the rumors hold any substance we should see SF4 on the new consoles.
I heard that Capcom will also be bringing out a new beat'em up game for the Xbox 360.
Dead Rising looks promising, and now RE5.
It's a good time to be a Capcom fan
Post by: miggidy on August 01, 2005, 02:13:00 PM
If the rumors hold any substance we should see SF4 on the new consoles.
I heard that Capcom will also be bringing out a new beat'em up game for the Xbox 360.
Dead Rising looks promising, and now RE5.
It's a good time to be a Capcom fan