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Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: twistedsymphony on December 28, 2005, 03:49:00 PM
TITLE: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
PUBLISHER: Bizarre Creations
DEVELOPER: Bizarre Creations
DATE RELEASED: November 22nd, 2005
NUMBER OF PLAYERS: 1
XBOX SYSTEM LINK: no
XBOX LIVE COMPATIBLE: yes
HDTV Support: 1080i
5.1 Surround Sound: No
GENRE: Xbox Live Arcade/Action
PLATFORM: Xbox 360
ESRB: E (Everyone)
Retail Price: 400 MS Points (~$5 US)
WEBSITE: http://www.geometrywars.com/

Any Fan of The Project Gotham Racing series should be familiar with Geometry Wars. In Project Gotham Racing 2 Bizarre Creations added a mini game to the game's Showroom in the form of a classic arcade shooter you could walk up to and play. "Geometry Wars" was an instant classic. The game was so popular in fact that with Project Gotham Racing 3 Bizarre Creations has released a sequel to the original Geometry Wars (now dubbed "Geometry Wars: Retro"), "Geometry Wars: Evolved". If you have a copy of Project Gotham Racing 3 you can find both the "Retro" and "Evolved" versions of the arcade machines in any of the game's Garages. The Evolved version is only a demo however and will limit your play time to 4 minutes. The demo version also will not grant you any Achievement points outside of the "Arcade Player" Achievement in Project Gotham Racing 3. The demo can also be downloaded through the Xbox Live Marketplace and the full version can also be purchased the same way for a very cheap 400 MS Points (Approx: $5 US).

Even if you own Project Gotham Racing 3 and have no intent on purchasing the full version of Geometry Wars I would recommend downloading the demo as you will be able to play it off of your Xbox 360 Hard Drive or Memory Unit at any time. Though I was a bit disappointed that Project Gotham Racing 3 did not include the full version of Geometry Wars, I was further disappointed that it offered no way to "install" the demo to your console's storage device from the game disc; forcing you to download it. But those are really problems with Project Gotham Racing 3 rather then Geometry Wars. In the Xbox Live Marketplace it's listed as "Geometry Wars Retro Evolved" and that will give you both the Retro and the Evolved version of the game. The Retro version comes completely unlocked with the demo download.

For those of you who aren't familiar with the game it feels and plays like finely tuned sequel to the arcade classic Asteroids. From the moment the game loads, the Bizarre Creations logo, the menu, and of course the actual games are all displayed as if on a classic vector arcade monitor. You play as a small geometric shape that can fly around and shoot other small geometric shapes. The arena is a finite sized rectangle which you can move around in using the left stick to determine the direction you move and using the right stick to shoot in a particular direction (similar to games like Robotron or Smash TV) pulling either of the triggers will release a "bomb" in the form of a circular ripple that emanates from your ship destroying anything in it's visible path.

Before I get too far into the review it's important to keep in mind that this game isn't trying to be a new and advanced title. The goals set by the developers are quite clearly to make a game in the CLASSIC arcade style. I feel it's always important to judge games for what they are, so keep that in mind as you read through this.
Being done in the classic arcade style Geometry Wars prides itself on a less is more mentality. The game is so simplistic that it becomes endless in game play and replay possibilities. Literally there is no end to the game (at least none that has been found) it simply continues on indefinitely until the player dies. Much like a classic arcade game there is no real goal outside of getting the highest score possible.

The graphics of the Evolved version of the game are a vast improvement over the Retro version. The Evolved version is simply put, beautiful. Even those who don't like this genre of game will find themselves mesmerized in awe watching others play. The Evolved version of the game also natively supports resolutions up to 1080i. The colors are vivid and the game plays incredibly smooth. Yet for all the graphical beauty it's done in a style as if the game was running on a classic vector based arcade machine. Little touches like the Bizarre Creations logo being re-done in simple green lines immerses you in the experience from the moment the game loads. Though I highly doubt the evolved version of the game could actually play through an old vector monitor it gives the game an old school arcade feel.

Sound in the Evolved version is fantastic as well. Each enemy has a unique spawn sound. Simple enough to have been potentially generated from a classic arcade game yet rich and full enough to not be as harsh on the ears as many of the beeps and clicks of actual classic arcade machines. Each spawn sound is unique enough that the player is instantly alerted that a specific enemy has entered the arena, even if the player can't yet see said enemy. Sounds of the explosions and projectiles are equally as distinct and classic in nature.

In terms of music the game has 2 songs: one very mellow song that plays while in the menu and another very intense song that plays during game play. While there is only one song it's very distinct and suiting for the game. If you don't enjoy it you have the option of using a custom soundtrack. While the music is a little too good to have been from a classic arcade game it is reminiscent of old MIDI based video game music.
The game doesn't support surround sound; actually, I believe all of the audio is possibly MONO, though I could be wrong. Considering the nature of the game I'm not quite sure if I'd consider that a downfall or a feature. Classic arcade machines certainly didn't have surround sound; then again they didn't have Hi-Definition graphics either.

The game play is where Geometry Wars Shines. Geometry Wars is the ultimate twitch arcade player's dream come true. The Analog sticks provide dead accurate control and the player receives immediate feedback through the smooth vector-esque graphics. Enemies "pop" assuredly when met with your projectiles and I've never once seen the game so much as flinch, it plays as rock solid as the graphics are smooth and simple. One key feature is that once the game has ended the player can quickly and easily jump right back into a new game with only a few button presses and no loading time. Also considering the immense amount of items on the screen at once the developers opted to disable the “Achievement Unlocked” notices, holding them until the end of the game so they that do not distract you while playing. Though there are still sound queues that alert you to achievements having been reached.

One thing that was added to the game mechanics since the Retro version is the size of the arena. In the Retro version the entire arena could be seen at all times. In the Evolved version the arena is slightly larger than the visible area. At first it would seem to make the game more difficult as you can no longer see everything on the screen at once however after playing for a while you will realize that you don't need to see the entire arena with the audio queues as distinct as they are. Actually it seems to make the game a bit easier, the larger arena coupled with HD graphics give a much more open feel to the game where the Retro version was almost claustrophobic. Also it makes the use of bombs more interesting as well as bombs only destroy the things visible to the player; meaning baddies in the arena, but off screen, will survive.

While the Retro version of Geometry Wars that came with Project Gotham Racing 2 was fun to play, seeing as the game had no end the only motivation was to get a higher score. How much of a higher score was almost arbitrary, you could compete against your own score or those on Xbox Live, but the scores on the Xbox Live Leaderboards were so lofty they were almost unobtainable for the typical gamer. This changes somewhat with the addition of Xbox 360 Achievements. Like most Xbox Live Arcade games Geometry Wars has a potential of 200 total points that can be earned to add to your Gamer Score. On par with Bizarre Creation's other Xbox 360 release the points are extremely difficult to actually earn. It does add some very important aspects to the game though. With only a Leaderboard you don't have any solid goals. Trying to progress in the game would be like running uphill against the entire human race. How do you judge your progress? The Achievements bring solid goals for the player to accomplish. Reach X level of points, Reach X level of points without using a life, etc. In addition to straight point based accomplishments the game has a few other interesting achievements. It has an achievement for collecting a certain number of lives, forcing the player to play as hard as possible without dying; it has an achievement for collecting a certain number of bombs, forcing the player to play as hard as possible without using a single bomb. Probably the most interesting is the "Pacifism" achievement which requires the player to survive for 60 seconds without firing a single shot. While these achievements are interesting I wish there were more of them. More than half of the achievements are score based. It would have been nice to see a few levels of the Pacifism achievement, perhaps additional achievements of 2 minutes and 3 minutes etc. I would have liked to see something like an immobility achievement where to earn it the player could shoot but not move for a certain period of time. And while there are goals to reach X multiplier or X number of lives or bombs There is only one for each of those and they are so difficult that I don't see very many actually accomplishing them. It would have been nice to see one or two easier variations of those as well.

While the game doesn't have any typical multiplayer modes at first glance you wouldn't expect it to. If this were an actual arcade game it would be turn based anyway. Even still they could have added a "pass the controller" type multiplayer to add to the classic arcade experience where it simply compares scores for that round. I'm also a bit disappointed that there was no addition of a timer. A simple timer could have added enormous amounts of game play elements and replay value along with time based achievements such as "survive for X amount of time" or "earn X points in under X time". It would have also lent itself to a time attack mode where the player simply attempted to reach the most amount of points within the time limit. I think this all could have been done without distracting from the games simplistic classic arcade nature. Especially when considering the Retro version stands as the solid classic version. How evolved is "Evolved" in terms of game play outside of a larger arena? Perhaps these things will be added in the next rendition of the game, sure to be released alongside Project Gotham Racing 4.

In a direct comparison of the Retro version and the Evolved version obvious improvements in graphics and sound have been made. The addition of the Xbox 360 Achievements and the larger playing area add a great deal of replay value and game play to Geometry Wars. But they could have added even a turn based multiplayer some more creative achievements or added some additional game play elements with the inclusion of a timer. Even still, the game stands tall as easily one of the best Xbox Live Arcade games available and at only $5 for both the Retro and Evolved versions it's definitely an enormous value for any classic arcade fan. If nothing else the Geometry Wars series reminds those classic arcade fans that the heart and soul of gaming is still alive and kicking; and that good games can still be made without being a 3D succubus or using every last function of a new controller.

Judging both versions as a single game I give Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved a 9.0/10

This post has been edited by twistedsymphony: Dec 29 2005, 03:36 PM
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: DWells55 on December 29, 2005, 08:34:00 PM
Great review, this is easily one of the best and most addicting 360 games available.

I'm sitting on a ~350,000 high score, and I hold somewhere in the the top 450 for Retro.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: LowProfileWurm on January 05, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
This is the best game in recent memory.  I've not been so addicted to a game since the first time I played Burnout 2's crash mode.  This game haunts my dreams.  laugh.gif
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: pingrr on January 06, 2006, 11:43:00 AM
The first time I played this game I just thought it was ok.  But the more I played it I would find myself always wanting to play just one more time(wich turns into 5 to 10 more times).  

 I found Geometry Wars to be a very good game wich grows on you the longer you play it.

This post has been edited by pingrr: Jan 6 2006, 07:44 PM
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: Jeeva on January 07, 2006, 04:44:00 AM
Basically what Pingrr said...

Have to say though- it does have time based achievements. =) I'm addicted to this game, as are some of my friends- and hell, they don't even have 360's.  biggrin.gif
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 08, 2006, 09:27:00 AM
QUOTE(Jeeva @ Jan 7 2006, 06:44 AM) View Post

Basically what Pingrr said...

Have to say though- it does have time based achievements. =) I'm addicted to this game, as are some of my friends- and hell, they don't even have 360's.  biggrin.gif


Asside from pacifism (which I mentioned) what time based achievments does it have?
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: m_hael on January 08, 2006, 10:35:00 AM
the multipliers seem more time than score/ht count based.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 08, 2006, 03:43:00 PM
QUOTE(m_hael @ Jan 8 2006, 12:06 PM) View Post

the multipliers seem more time than score/ht count based.


The multipliers are based on the number of ships destroyed, and it gets reset if you loose a life.

25 ships brings you to 2x multiplier
75 is 3x
225 is 4x
etc...
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: LowProfileWurm on January 09, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 8 2006, 05:50 PM) View Post

The multipliers are based on the number of ships destroyed, and it gets reset if you loose a life.

25 ships brings you to 2x multiplier
75 is 3x
225 is 4x
etc...

Then by your linear progression, you would have to destroy 54,675 ships in one live to get the 9x multiplier achievement...  huh.gif

That's alot of damn ships.  There aren't even that many little triangle satan spawn.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: Mars10 on January 09, 2006, 01:19:00 PM
damn you pink squares and your little offspring!
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: Cog on January 10, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Best.
Game.
Ever.


Trying to bust my way to 1 mil, allmost there.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: CattyKid on January 11, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
Yeah, this game is great.  I really like it.
It's the first content I've BOUGHT off of XBL, ever.  I waited out the Halo 2 maps even though I used to play almost every day.  I'm SO cheap.
The demo just had me hooked.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: hamwbone on January 12, 2006, 11:44:00 PM
i made it to 219,000. the controller almost slipped out of my hands they were so sweaty.  how do you folks make it so far! i mean i know how, but damn, good job!
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: stilljackstraw on January 13, 2006, 03:13:00 AM
Good stuff.  Would go perfectly with a long night of psychoactive substances.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: outsida on January 17, 2006, 01:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Mars10 @ Jan 9 2006, 08:50 PM) View Post

damn you pink squares and your little offspring!


 tongue.gif  I hate those things, along with their red cousins with the shield in front  grr.gif
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: lostboyz on January 18, 2006, 11:52:00 AM
everything is easy but snakes. just smashed my highscore got 766,000 just to see that the top position has gone to 12,000,000 damn
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: BoNg420 on January 19, 2006, 09:26:00 PM
I am at top score of 760,025 and 100/200 achievements thats 8 of 12 unlocked.  I need to get the collect 9 bombs, the 10x multiplier, live to 1 million and score 1,000,000
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: lostboyz on January 20, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
wow you got 9 lives and couldnt get to 1,000,000?

i just dont know how to use bombs, ive gotten to 1,200,000 but cannot for the life of me live to 500,000

i thnk the game gets harder too, i got 2 simultaneous snake rushes at just above 15,000
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: BoNg420 on January 20, 2006, 07:35:00 PM
yea i kept getting killed around 600k and id like spawn and shit would just spawn on me and i would get owned by them.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: gcskate27 on January 20, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
the game most certainly gets harder... have a few beginner people play, then play and try for the passifism achievment, then play seriously for a few rounds, then try for passifism again... black holes and tons of pink/green squares are added...
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: Master X on January 22, 2006, 02:22:00 PM
Snakes are easy you just have to know how to move around them. I hate those little blue guys that come out of the huge red circles that suck up everything. Another shape that always makes me lose is the red one that chases you.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: BoNg420 on January 22, 2006, 11:05:00 PM
the worst is those real tiny things when they come out of four corners or when you get ambushed by tons of pink squares.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: lostboyz on January 22, 2006, 11:50:00 PM
the tiny things were hard at first but once you learn how to work them they are awesome for your multiplier

all you do is just keep shooting at one spot then run through then keep going in a circular motion

pink rushes you just got to shoot them right so that you are trapped by their offspring


just got collect 9 lives collect 9 bombs and still cant fucking live to 500,000 gotten past 1,000,000 4-5 times now, this game is crazy addictive even after soooo many hours of play
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: flashfreak on March 29, 2006, 05:15:00 AM
My top score is 202,350. And i only got the 360 just less than a week ago tongue.gif So i reckon im doing pretty well.

The red guys that chase u are difficult, the snakes are plain annoying and i always miss the pink guys' offspring.

But twistedsymphony, great review, it was written really well.  pop.gif Enjoy ur popped corn
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: TotalCarnage on April 18, 2006, 09:35:00 AM
Geometry Wars is dope!  They need to bring it out for game wise,make it much better.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: ClintiePoo on April 29, 2006, 11:02:00 AM
This game is simple yet mesmerizing.  I like it a lot.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: spinr34 on May 01, 2006, 12:46:00 PM
fun game, i finally got my last two achievements the other night (10x multiplyer and survived 1 million).  now i just have to work on beating my top score of 2.8 million smile.gif (i'm aiming for 4 - 5 million, i'll retire once i get there)
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: StigmataDiaboli on June 20, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
I've clocked more hours playing this game than any other actual game I have (although PGR3 is pretty close) and it's not even close to getting old.  This game is more addicting than crack.  And awesome review, very nicely written.  I've only gotten to around 250,000 points myself though.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: CattyKid on June 20, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
I've gotta say how amazingly incredibly awesome this game is.
2.5 million biggrin.gif.
I just think this game is, since someone else put it so well, as addictive as crack (though I really can't compare the 2...).
It's so simple it's stunning.  Great in Hi-Def... even non-gamers have told me it's cool because it "Looks Pretty"
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: IMnotGarBagE on June 20, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
I got to 2.4 million and i got so nerve wrecked that my fingers got stiff. All you really have to do to is get all the ships in a cluster behind you. Fly in a circle around the board taking out the red circles while all the ships build up behind u. Then just take them out and repeat.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: Mr Invader on October 07, 2006, 06:39:00 PM
Geometry wars is one of the best for its price and simplicity

I only have gotten 180,00 so i guess i have more work to do
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: aTx eXpLoiTeD on October 12, 2006, 11:41:00 AM
My highest is like 1,200,000 but i average over 1 mil. Gay i cant get farther.
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: iPwn on October 21, 2006, 08:35:00 PM
nice review for a excellent game. rolleyes.gif
Title: Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved, Ntsc
Post by: DADDYDjCK on January 12, 2007, 07:58:00 PM
one word ADDICTED!!