Post by: RRODXbox on August 29, 2011, 05:03:00 PM
I'm just basing this on the ps3 boards. For example I bought an atmel avaxplain for £20 ish on the net and sold it for £60 due to limited stocks and when a dedicated usb stick came out they were around £25 from redboxmods and again, limited stocks. Resale value was much much higher due to demand.
Post by: Julets on August 29, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
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Actually it is the history with ps3 that makes me wait. I had the total opposite experience. I bought 3 tinyusb boards for 20usd total including shipping. Now I have 3 tinyusb boards I don't use. They were never more than a week out of stock.
Anyways, this will turn into someone making a schematic anyhow. There are already schematics for the required board right now, so if it ever got that bad we can fall back on that.
I dunno, I do see what you are saying. However, in this case, it almost seems like there might be a surge of these boards hitting the market vs. a drought. The board isn't too common to begin with, at least with the case of the third party boards, assuming you can buy one directly from Xilinx. And it certainly appears it's not nearly as common as the AVR boards were to boot, which also helps strengthen your point a lot. However, needing 1 dev. board per xbox? Well, I dunno about that. 1 small chip per xbox? Sure, but 1 full dev. board?
For me the thing that is foreshadowing what actually pans out with these boards is how much tweaking is left to do with the software. Or better yet, how much longer until it is fully tweaked. And once it is, who is going to then make up a smaller and even cheaper board possibly not even based on what we are seeing now.
I'm not a hardware dev. or even much of a software dev., but I do like to play with others toys :-). Just right now, that toy doesn't seem to want to play with me. If I had that board, I would just be saddened by the fact that I have a actual dev. board, and really don't know what to do with it. I have a box fully of boards I never use because I only bought them for a one off project. A box full of wonders I'll never know about.
Hey wait, RROD did you make a PCB schematic for the USB flasher? Maybe someone could just sell the boards and the rest of us could add the componenets? Beats using perf. board to make it :-).
Have at it :-) http://dangerousprot...PLD_quick_start
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Post by: SkinnyMathew on August 30, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
QUOTE(Julets @ Aug 30 2011, 12:25 AM) 
For me the thing that is foreshadowing what actually pans out with these boards is how much tweaking is left to do with the software. Or better yet, how much longer until it is fully tweaked. And once it is, who is going to then make up a smaller and even cheaper board possibly not even based on what we are seeing now.
Have you seen the code for this reset glitch? It's on github and, if I read it correctly, it's about 20 lines long. I doubt there's a lot of optimisation required, and I suspect it's not a big job to port it over to an Atmel AVR based board like the Xplain or one of the other, more I/O port friendly versions of the PS3 jailbreaking dongles.
Post by: Julets on September 01, 2011, 12:16:00 AM
SkinnyMathew: Then maybe they come up with a new implementation? Hopefully someone can make a faster runtime for the reset glitch. 2 minutes seems like a lot from here (but I'm used to a regular jtag).