Post by: zyo on July 06, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
All serials/keys return show bad.
not able to flash anymore....
Post by: boneym on July 06, 2009, 02:24:00 PM
QUOTE(zyo @ Jul 6 2009, 09:05 PM) 
Maximus Spear doesnt flash blue when pointed at the usual spot.
All serials/keys return show bad.
not able to flash anymore....
Post by: headonism on July 06, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
thanks
Post by: ghaladream on July 06, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
I'm guessing we're going to start seeing a lot of these new LiteOns when the current stock depletes. It would be nice if this, or another thread could be dedicated to reporting seeing this new drive, and where it was seen.
Post by: jt1 on July 06, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
http://xbox-experts.com/e/pics/liteonalt1.jpg
According to that german forum some users managed to get it flashed using them. But there is no official word. Worth a try.
Source: http://xbox-experts.com/e/index.php?show=14
@ghaladream: 83850c and 74850c technically are different drives. Both now have an A0A2 revision.
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Post by: headonism on July 06, 2009, 04:10:00 PM
thanks
Post by: boneym on July 06, 2009, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(jt1 @ Jul 6 2009, 10:54 PM) 
Can you try the other points on the board
http://xbox-experts.com/e/pics/liteonalt1.jpg
According to that german forum some users managed to get it flashed using them. But there is no official word. Worth a try.
Source: http://xbox-experts.com/e/index.php?show=14
@ghaladream: 83850c and 74850c technically are different drives. Both now have an A0A2 revision.
Post by: omb on July 06, 2009, 04:50:00 PM
from a pro machine in Australia refurbished in the last month.
This post has been edited by omb: Jul 6 2009, 11:50 PM
Post by: RRODXbox on February 02, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Recently got one back 04 2009 that was NOT 83850c
This post has been edited by RRODXbox: Yesterday, 12:41 AM
Post by: shai12 on February 02, 2020, 04:42:00 PM
mine was 2006 model console
This post has been edited by shai12: Yesterday, 12:44 AM
Post by: omb on February 02, 2020, 04:57:00 PM
I also have another one in for repair at the moment I have its key backedup
and will play around with it once I get it back. Hopefully the key on the
mainboard remains unchanged.
Post by: nfidel on July 06, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
QUOTE(omb @ Jul 7 2009, 12:57 AM)
I also have another one in for repair at the moment I have its key backedup
and will play around with it once I get it back. Hopefully the key on the
mainboard remains unchanged.
The key is always new to go along with the replaced MB and new DVD-ROM.
Post by: shai12 on July 06, 2009, 08:21:00 PM
QUOTE(nfidel @ Jul 7 2009, 12:19 AM)
The key is always new to go along with the replaced MB and new DVD-ROM.
Yes that is correct old keys are useless
Post by: zyo on July 06, 2009, 11:45:00 PM
here is a pic of the board
and case
Im in new zealand btw. The console is a refurbed 2006 non-hdmi model.
Post by: jt1 on July 07, 2009, 04:48:00 AM
QUOTE(boneym @ Jul 6 2009, 11:23 PM)
that is totally not true the points you have indicated are the same points that a 74850c would use , and totally useless to you have 83850c , sorry but you cannot give pll false hope.
I said that there was no official word. Just because you have not had any luck does not mean that information should be disregarded. Still worth a try IMO.
Post by: jt1 on July 07, 2009, 05:03:00 AM
Post by: hetster on July 07, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
have been donated a couple..i think they are in the process of decapping etc..
Post by: zyo on July 07, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
It might suggest Microsoft has done something to 'Block' the drive from giving out the key the normal way.
I hope we dont have to melt that white gluy thing in order to read the key
Post by: boneym on July 07, 2009, 03:18:00 PM
QUOTE(jt1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:48 AM)
I said that there was no official word. Just because you have not had any luck does not mean that information should be disregarded. Still worth a try IMO.
Post by: RRODXbox on July 07, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
QUOTE(omb @ Jul 7 2009, 12:57 AM)
I have no firm repair date on the back its still the original shell from 2006.
I also have another one in for repair at the moment I have its key backedup
and will play around with it once I get it back. Hopefully the key on the
mainboard remains unchanged.
Oh, right because here in the uk we get a completly different case, mobo and serial number. it also says repair date instead of manu date.
Post by: RottenFoxBreath on July 07, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Jul 7 2009, 10:20 PM)
Oh, right because here in the uk we get a completly different case, mobo and serial number. it also says repair date instead of manu date.
not all the time, ive got an arcade thats sitting here, that came back with a new motherboard, and the same benq drive that it had when i reported the 3RRoD, still got the man. date on the back, and the same serial it went away with.
same with my elite that went and came back a few weeks ago, that came back with a new liteon drive(it was a benq, originally), and a new motherboard, and fans.
still got its original serial, and man.date. on the sticker.
and that went away 2 weeks ago this friday,and was redelivered on monday past..
just glad they never stuck the new drive revision in.
Post by: Ranger72 on July 07, 2009, 04:48:00 PM
QUOTE(RottenFoxBreath @ Jul 7 2009, 06:07 PM)
not all the time, ive got an arcade thats sitting here, that came back with a new motherboard, and the same benq drive that it had when i reported the 3RRoD, still got the man. date on the back, and the same serial it went away with.
same with my elite that went and came back a few weeks ago, that came back with a new liteon drive(it was a benq, originally), and a new motherboard, and fans.
still got its original serial, and man.date. on the sticker.
and that went away 2 weeks ago this friday,and was redelivered on monday past..
just glad they never stuck the new drive revision in.
But the drives keys are different.
Post by: nfidel on July 07, 2009, 08:44:00 PM
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Jul 8 2009, 12:59 AM)
Actually you are probably quite right, I have only ever sent in old Xenon Cores and Pros and they always come back different, I never have sent in anything newer.
My experience in US with 20+ consoles of all models is that you always get back a different DVD-ROM with a new key. About 80% of the time they come back with a new Liteon. The rest are BenQs with manufacture dates 2007-2008. Presumably the BenQs are unused from inventory. I have not seen a Liteon 83850c on a refurb yet.
Post by: zyo on February 03, 2020, 08:00:00 PM
Post by: RRODXbox on July 08, 2009, 03:17:00 AM
QUOTE(nfidel @ Jul 8 2009, 03:44 AM)
My experience in US with 20+ consoles of all models is that you always get back a different DVD-ROM with a new key. About 80% of the time they come back with a new Liteon. The rest are BenQs with manufacture dates 2007-2008. Presumably the BenQs are unused from inventory. I have not seen a Liteon 83850c on a refurb yet.
Well I haven't sent in that many but have had all liteons bar one Benq.
Post by: coedshowers on July 09, 2009, 08:24:00 AM
QUOTE(nfidel @ Jul 8 2009, 03:44 AM)
My experience in US with 20+ consoles of all models is that you always get back a different DVD-ROM with a new key. About 80% of the time they come back with a new Liteon. The rest are BenQs with manufacture dates 2007-2008. Presumably the BenQs are unused from inventory. I have not seen a Liteon 83850c on a refurb yet.
im with him i have sent 20+ back in the past year and about 95% of mine have been liteons.im in america btw..
Post by: tezza192 on July 09, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
"Liteon 83850c workaround discovered Details to follow in a few weeks (work needed!) THX"
So shouldnt be long, no further details yet though so sit tight.
Tezza192
Post by: apease11 on August 02, 2009, 03:32:00 PM
Post by: apease11 on August 02, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 2 2009, 05:47 PM)
They have put the newer FW lid on your drive, I just looked though your log and your FW version is 74850C
There is no possible way you could have the 83850c because the liteon IX is based on the 74850C FW so you would have gotten E66 if you really did have 83850c
Also, you would not have been able to get your key by normal methods in the 1st place.
Any reason they would have put the newer cover on the older drive? This drive just came back from repair with everything new, all they did was replace the top part of the case on the 360 with the existing one, I guess they did some magic for the Lite-On also. The strange thing is that the key is the same as the old one, before it went into repair, but it was a Samsung when it went in. This must mean that they changed (or added) the old key into this new MoBo (I have pictures of the board of when I modded it as a Samsung. Why would they go through all this trouble to replace the keys? And why would they take it without a warrenty sticker? Was it just my lucky day when one of there workers got laid off or something? And the console was built in 2005, was past the warrenty. There up to something down there.
Post by: RRODXbox on August 02, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
Maybe someone made a mistake and put the wrong lid or the 74850c based FW in a case destined to have 83850c, thats all I can think of
Post by: apease11 on August 02, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE(RRODXbox @ Aug 2 2009, 06:03 PM)
Maybe someone made a mistake and put the wrong lid or the 74850c based FW in a case destined to have 83850c, thats all I can think of
Yeah, Microsoft is not a company to care for there work in the entertainment category that much. And aperently they don't care about Win7 to much either because it was cracked with a leaked key the first day it came out for the RTM
. Me being a software publisher, it's pretty embarasing for them that they can't controll their own software even BEFORE it comes out 
.