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Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 28, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Hi

Just purchased a new arcade pack version of the xbox. Using the same device as I have used before to dump the key from liteon drives, for some reason I am unable to get the key from this new drive (same model number as old) The Xbox has the newer paper based warranty seal.

I know that the device is functioning correctly and the loopback test also confirms this, and it is able to read keys from older liteon's.

Is anyone aware of any changes to the liteons stopping dvdkeys being extracted.

Regards

This post has been edited by mikeydoo: Apr 28 2009, 03:42 PM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Bazdoctor on April 28, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ Apr 29 2009, 12:41 AM) View Post

Hi

Just purchased a new arcade pack version of the xbox. Using the same device as I have used before to dump the key from liteon drives, for some reason I am unable to get the key from this new drive (same model number as old) The Xbox has the newer paper based warranty seal.

I know that the device is functioning correctly and the loopback test also confirms this, and it is able to read keys from older liteon's.

Is anyone aware of any changes to the liteons stopping dvdkeys being extracted.

Regards


That sticker has been out for years now. Its this one i assume.

IPB ImageThe bad serial data means you prob dont have the tray in the right place, fiddle around with it until you get a good read. Half, 3/4 usually works for most drives.

And as for the new drive, I doubt it but post the drive specs or a pic if you are still convinced.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: xb2000 on April 28, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
What tool are you using and are you 'plug-pulling' for the eject?  Sometimes you have to fiddle around to get it in the proper state.
Could be a difficult joint, so perhaps scrape the 707 a little to ensure you're touching the metal

*How easy is it to remove the paper sticker?  

GL

Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: coolstuff_herm on April 28, 2009, 09:56:00 AM
I had exactly the same problem i chipped a liteon in the moring no problems , then i had two come in from the repair center both with the paper seals both gave me an error when saving the dummy file it then gave me the option to repair the details taking the serial numbers off the pcb board the lense and the number off the front of the drive. I also noticed that the drive number on drive serial tab on jungleflasher and the number on the driver were different. ive chipped a few Liteons since then with no problems i also checked a few old liteons i have here and they all worked fine. so maybe something has changed, i might be worth looking in to.
     Using the 360 extractor pro with spear and jungle flasher 1.55 beta and xtractor reader 2.9 i tried both and they both gave me the same errors

This post has been edited by coolstuff_herm: Apr 28 2009, 05:01 PM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Vauxfan on April 28, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
Just push in the tray eject bar on the bottom and pull tray out halfway, no need to fiddle around with turning off half way

Then take the drive PCB out and probe R707 from the bottom, you will have to remove the 3 ribbon cables and the 2 screws to do so.


Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 28, 2009, 12:13:00 PM
Thanks for you help guys,

not really sure on this one either we have a big problem and MS has changed the drives or its just my drive...

right, i have lent a drive of a friend of mine...

Friends drive details:-
Model : DG-18D2S
Manufacture : August, 2008
HW Ver: A0A1
FW Ver: 74850C

this drive worked first time no problem key extrated easy... every time no problem!!!

however my drive will not extract the key no matter what i do...
My drive details:-
Model : DG-18D2S
Manufacture : January,2009
HW Ver: A0A2
FW Ver: 74850C

Now i really have tried everything i can think of, ive even tried tracing back the R707 ive traced it back to r52 circled on this pic ((IMG:http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5093/dsc01611a.th.jpg))

does anyone have any ideas, as any one done a drive with HW Ver: A020 or manufactured after Jan 09???

thanks for all your help guys

Regards
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Vauxfan on April 28, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Did you try the bottom of r707? it has worked for me every time it wouldnt read from the top.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Ranger72 on April 28, 2009, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ Apr 28 2009, 02:13 PM) View Post

Thanks for you help guys,

not really sure on this one either we have a big problem and MS has changed the drives or its just my drive...

right, i have lent a drive of a friend of mine...

Friends drive details:-
Model : DG-18D2S
Manufacture : August, 2008
HW Ver: A0A1
FW Ver: 74850C

this drive worked first time no problem key extrated easy... every time no problem!!!

however my drive will not extract the key no matter what i do...
My drive details:-
Model : DG-18D2S
Manufacture : January,2009
HW Ver: A0A2
FW Ver: 74850C

Now i really have tried everything i can think of, ive even tried tracing back the R707 ive traced it back to r52 circled on this pic (IPB Image)

does anyone have any ideas, as any one done a drive with HW Ver: A020 or manufactured after Jan 09???

thanks for all your help guys

Regards


If your info is correct then you have a new hardware Liteon with the same older firmware.


However I have seen a rumor of this fable new drive a couple months ago that turned out to be a fake so who knows.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 28, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Apr 28 2009, 07:43 PM) *

If your info is correct then you have a new hardware Liteon with the same older firmware.
However I have seen a rumor of this fable new drive a couple months ago that turned out to be a fake so who knows.

are you saying that im posting a fake?  heres a pic of the drive anymore proff?
(IMG:http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7259/dsc01616p.th.jpg)

QUOTE(Vauxfan @ Apr 28 2009, 07:37 PM) *

Did you try the bottom of r707? it has worked for me every time it wouldnt read from the top.

will try now ta, post back in 10 mins
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: gringo john on April 28, 2009, 01:35:00 PM
I have had a liteon with a manufacture date of Jan 2009 come back on a warranty return (had the paper warranty sticker as posted above).  I can't recall the hardware / firmware versions off hand.

I was able to extract key + drive identify + inquiry using Jungleflasher v0.1.55b

The one thing that was different was when checking with giampy's drive serial dummybin fixer, the PCB number now starts with S4P9 (when it was expecting S4P8).  I don't know if the other tools sees this as an error or not.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 28, 2009, 02:58:00 PM
Tried 707 on the bottom sad.gif no good....


also tried r52 again..

pics attached

IPB Image

IPB Image



QUOTE(gringo john @ Apr 28 2009, 08:35 PM) View Post

I have had a liteon with a manufacture date of Jan 2009 come back on a warranty return (had the paper warranty sticker as posted above).  I can't recall the hardware / firmware versions off hand.

I was able to extract key + drive identify + inquiry using Jungleflasher v0.1.55b

The one thing that was different was when checking with giampy's drive serial dummybin fixer, the PCB number now starts with S4P9 (when it was expecting S4P8).  I don't know if the other tools sees this as an error or not.

thanks, just tried jungle flasher 0.1.55b just said Serial data bad....

Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Ranger72 on April 28, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ Apr 28 2009, 03:03 PM) View Post

are you saying that im posting a fake?  heres a pic of the drive anymore proff?
IPB Image
will try now ta, post back in 10 mins


That looks like it says 16D2s not 18D2S. But yes I see the difference in the HW Version AOA2.

This could be bad news.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Bazdoctor on April 28, 2009, 05:17:00 PM
Well there you go, It seems this new revision drive finally exists. Personally I thought it would be a bit longer before we started seeing a lite on revision, but here it is.

This post has been edited by Bazdoctor: Apr 29 2009, 12:21 AM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Ranger72 on April 28, 2009, 06:33:00 PM
Someone should start a new thread about this new drive. This is pretty big news here.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: OggyUK on April 28, 2009, 06:45:00 PM
A0A2 Isnt that new and it has been reported to dump fine.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: Ranger72 on April 28, 2009, 08:14:00 PM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Apr 28 2009, 08:45 PM) View Post

A0A2 Isnt that new and it has been reported to dump fine.



Good to know. I have not come across one yet but cant wait to see one myself.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 29, 2009, 01:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Apr 29 2009, 02:06 AM) *

Good to know. I have not come across one yet but cant wait to see one myself.


does anyone have any sugestions of what i can try to dump this drive?
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on April 29, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ Apr 29 2009, 08:24 AM) View Post

does anyone have any sugestions of what i can try to dump this drive?
bump
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: ricky54326 on April 30, 2009, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ Apr 29 2009, 12:03 PM) View Post

bump


I had one of these and it took a god damn long time to extract the key, and even now I can't flash the proper fw for some reason. Jungle says it worked fine but yet my drive won't play backups.
I'd say shove that damn probe into r707 and make sure you're touching the sides (your fingers should start feeling relatively hot, thats a good sign that its working)
Also make sure you attatch the alligator clip BEFORE you plug the molex in (provided you're using the connectivity kit) as I did that after a couple times and it never read the serial data.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mackemsrule on April 30, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
Ricky is yours an A0A2 Version as well? maybe they're sending them out with the lasers adjusted down so they only read originals
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: keztheking on April 30, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
just to confirm i've dumped and flashed this verison so there deffo able to be done and its not anything new from ms,as said in the pm mate you are welcome  to pop over and see me and i will retive your info and wont charge you mate just give me a shout!
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on May 01, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
Not good news, I think I’ve blown summat - after all the messing about i decided to put it back together and test it...

It doesn’t work... drive spins laser moves, drive ejects etc etc, but it just comes up as unrecognisable disk!!!!
This is really bad news as i don’t have the DVD key!

The Chip sounded by the proxy resin gets really really hot, im not able to extract the key from the drive.

does anyone know what drives the chip maybe its getting to much power, ill upload hi-res images tonight

Anyone got any ideas?

This post has been edited by mikeydoo: May 1 2009, 11:35 AM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: keztheking on May 01, 2009, 06:50:00 AM
QUOTE(mikeydoo @ May 1 2009, 11:35 AM) View Post

Not good news, I think I’ve blown summat - after all the messing about i decided to put it back together and test it...

It doesn’t work... drive spins laser moves, drive ejects etc etc, but it just comes up as unrecognisable disk!!!!
This is really bad news as i don’t have the DVD key!

The Chip sounded by the proxy resin gets really really hot, im not able to extract the key from the drive.

does anyone know what drives the chip maybe its getting to much power, ill upload hi-res images tonight

Anyone got any ideas?

did u ever get the drive to show in jungle flasher m8? if u did does it still show up now or not?
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: mikeydoo on May 01, 2009, 06:38:00 AM
QUOTE(keztheking @ May 1 2009, 12:42 PM) *

did u ever get the drive to show in jungle flasher m8? if u did does it still show up now or not?


yeah it shows up.. it does the inquiry bin and the identify.bin. key.bin is empty.. and i get *** Bad Serial Data ***

thanks for you help!

This post has been edited by mikeydoo: May 1 2009, 01:38 PM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: keztheking on May 01, 2009, 07:41:00 AM
no probs m8 just sent you a pm see what you think.
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: ricky54326 on May 01, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(mackemsrule @ Apr 30 2009, 04:22 PM) *

Ricky is yours an A0A2 Version as well? maybe they're sending them out with the lasers adjusted down so they only read originals

Yep mine is. I really really hope they haven't figured that out and now make them like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: braza on May 01, 2009, 05:39:00 PM
Hello !

I live in Japan and i have unlocked more than 10 liteons A0A2!

This includes new jasper with 512 MB memory card !

You need only remake your drive serial number ! pop.gif

The Key extract normal !

Bye !
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: turny on February 02, 2020, 04:27:00 PM
QUOTE(braza @ May 1 2009, 11:31 PM) *

Hello !

I live in Japan and i have unlocked more than 10 liteons A0A2!

This includes new jasper with 512 MB memory card !

You need only remake your drive serial number ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)

The Key extract normal !

Bye !
you have unlocked or flashed 10 litones? what difference does it make which motherboard or memory card ? you need only remake your dvd drive ?what are you talking about? my opinion on this is the flash chip has been blown and there is nothing you can do you about it, you have got to bite the bullet and put it on e**y and buy a new box and put it down to experience

This post has been edited by turny: Yesterday, 12:30 AM
Title: Arcade Xbox 360 Purchased Today Dvd Key Issse Litoen
Post by: braza on February 02, 2020, 10:31:00 PM
In Brazil !!!! I am brasiliense and live in japan!
Unlock = flashed
I have flashed  10 or more don't remenber , a0a2 models !
The jasper , april manufacturer have 512 memory card internal, not 256 !

And i confirm, is possible dump the key, not the liteon serial number!