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iprep006 is what i use to do sammies
u need via drivers installed for this program and the portio uninstalled for this method
the bootable floppy when formatted in iprep has the mtk flash for unlocking drive anyway
dont see why you are having a problem getting the key if its in the firmware
obviously your drive was working well before
u dont have a copy of your orig firmware?
you are supposed to power cycle drive when reading and flashing drive
whats the size of the file when it reads supposed to be 256kb
sound like you know what you are doing in regards to programs but heres a link
http://360mods.net/i...d...tails&id=61
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Well the portio drivers were installed when I created my bootable flash drive using iprep 006. I did change to the latest version of MKTflash after creating the bootable drive. I assume that the bootable drive works fine since I am able to get connected to the drive and read a firmware from it. The size of the OFW file is 256k
Bin info from JungleFlasher
Inquiry:
0000: 05 80 00 32 5B 00 00 00 - 54 53 53 54 63 6F 72 70 ...2[...TSSTcorp
0010: 44 56 44 2D 52 4F 4D 20 - 54 53 2D 48 39 34 33 41 DVD-ROM TS-H943A
0020: 6D 73 32 38 20 20 20 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ms28 .........
0030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 16 00 03 A0 00 00 ................
0040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
Identify:
0000: C0 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0010: 00 00 00 00 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 ....
0020: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 73 6D ......sm
0030: 38 32 20 20 20 20 53 54 - 54 53 6F 63 70 72 56 44 82 STTSocprVD
0040: 2D 44 4F 52 20 4D 53 54 - 48 2D 34 39 41 33 20 20 -DOR MSTH-49A3
0050: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 ..
0060: 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 02 - 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 ................
0080: 03 00 78 00 78 00 E3 00 - 78 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..x.x...x.......
0090: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 02 00 08 00 08 00 00 00 ................
00A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00B0: 3F 00 00 00 ?...
Drive serial tab is blank.....????
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does seem like the keys gone but you can read a firmware?
so wheres the key out of it gone?
very strange
are you sure you dont have backup copies for your drive floating around somewhere
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deffinately no extra copies, this is the first read from this box. I thought the ms28 gave bad firmware data sometimes, and thats why you needed to use the 10 second trick?
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key is at 4140 in a ms28
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 24 2009, 09:22 AM)

Well the portio drivers were installed when I created my bootable flash drive using iprep 006. I did change to the latest version of MKTflash after creating the bootable drive. I assume that the bootable drive works fine since I am able to get connected to the drive and read a firmware from it. The size of the OFW file is 256k
Bin info from JungleFlasher
Inquiry:
0000: 05 80 00 32 5B 00 00 00 - 54 53 53 54 63 6F 72 70 ...2[...TSSTcorp
0010: 44 56 44 2D 52 4F 4D 20 - 54 53 2D 48 39 34 33 41 DVD-ROM TS-H943A
0020: 6D 73 32 38 20 20 20 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ms28 .........
0030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 16 00 03 A0 00 00 ................
0040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0050: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
Identify:
0000: C0 85 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0010: 00 00 00 00 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 ....
0020: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 73 6D ......sm
0030: 38 32 20 20 20 20 53 54 - 54 53 6F 63 70 72 56 44 82 STTSocprVD
0040: 2D 44 4F 52 20 4D 53 54 - 48 2D 34 39 41 33 20 20 -DOR MSTH-49A3
0050: 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 - 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 ..
0060: 00 00 00 0B 00 00 00 02 - 00 02 06 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 ................
0080: 03 00 78 00 78 00 E3 00 - 78 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..x.x...x.......
0090: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 02 00 08 00 08 00 00 00 ................
00A0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00B0: 3F 00 00 00 ?...
Drive serial tab is blank.....????
QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 24 2009, 06:41 PM)

deffinately no extra copies, this is the first read from this box. I thought the ms28 gave bad firmware data sometimes, and thats why you needed to use the 10 second trick?
this info you posted here looks like you trying to use dvdkey32 in jungleflasher to obtain key . this is for liteons only. for a samsung the firmware is read and the key is contained within this.No dumping or reading keys.
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OK thanks. I just loaded one of the firwares I retrieved from iPrep into jungle flasher, I didn't realize you coudn't do this.
iPrep always give me an error message after reading from the drive, I can't remember exactly what it says but something about key info not found.
Should I not replace MKTflash after creating the bootable iprep flash drive?
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 24 2009, 11:43 PM)

OK thanks. I just loaded one of the firwares I retrieved from iPrep into jungle flasher, I didn't realize you coudn't do this.
iPrep always give me an error message after reading from the drive, I can't remember exactly what it says but something about key info not found.
Should I not replace MKTflash after creating the bootable iprep flash drive?
sorry cant help you , the last time I used iprep was ages ago its really outdated if you got JF up and running than thats the way to go at the moment,thats what I use for all drives.If you still want to use iprep then thats fine whatever you feel comfortable with.
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you dont read posts very well
i sent you a link to download JF tutorial and this has all the info on flashing your drive in JF all to easy
if you use the iprep 006 update ixdef1.5.1 file and prepare floppy and flash that way
i should have realised myself you were trying to extract the key like it was a liteon as turny said you just read firmware for this drive and key is obtained in the firmware
pay you to do some researching and reading if you tend to flash drives in the future it could end up a costly mistake if you dont know what you are doing
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OK... I did read that tutorial many times... iPrep returns the error after reading the firmware using THE INSTRUCTIONS you are refering to. The key is not being found, and there is an error returned along with RED text on the screen.
When firmtool checks the firmware for the key it is not being found.
Thanks.
QUOTE(turny @ Apr 24 2009, 04:06 PM)

sorry cant help you , the last time I used iprep was ages ago its really outdated if you got JF up and running than thats the way to go at the moment,thats what I use for all drives.If you still want to use iprep then thats fine whatever you feel comfortable with.
Thanks.
I did try using JungleFlasher but it kept returning 00000000000's for the key, so I gave up on it. Don't know, maybe the drive is no longer working, guess I need to get a 360 game to test with.
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 25 2009, 10:28 AM)

OK... I did read that tutorial many times... iPrep returns the error after reading the firmware using THE INSTRUCTIONS you are refering to. The key is not being found, and there is an error returned along with RED text on the screen.
When firmtool checks the firmware for the key it is not being found.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I did try using JungleFlasher but it kept returning 00000000000's for the key, so I gave up on it. Don't know, maybe the drive is no longer working, guess I need to get a 360 game to test with.
so you are just reading the firmware from the drive as per samsungms28 and getting a dump called SAM-OFW.bin file and you save this and when you open this up its showing a key with all zero's
if this is the case youre screwed sounds like someone loaded the ixtreme firmware and flashed your drive with that key which is of course is blank without your orig key its a dvd player
when you do take a dump what is it saying (ms281.5.1 12Xixtreme firmware or is it saying something else
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So if you get iprep to read the firmware then it ALWAYS has the correct key?
When people talk about the 10 second method are they trying to get the firmware to read, or are they dumping a firmware with an invalid key?
I'm not sure what version the firmware says when its dumped, I'll check next time, but I have a feeling I have a paperweight.
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 25 2009, 03:22 PM)

So if you get iprep to read the firmware then it ALWAYS has the correct key?
When people talk about the 10 second method are they trying to get the firmware to read, or are they dumping a firmware with an invalid key?
I'm not sure what version the firmware says when its dumped, I'll check next time, but I have a feeling I have a paperweight.
the 10 secs is standard when using iprep to read firmware and flash its just part of the procedure
all i wanted to know is if you open Jf up load the firmware that u dumped from iprep or JF (the one that shows all 0's) into the source and see what it says about the firmware on the left
as for the correct key most programs whether its iprep/ dos or JF let you know if the key is correct or valid
normally will give you a warning
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Loading Source File H:\BACKUPS\1011111\10111\SAM-OFW.BIN
Inquiry string found
Identify string found
DVD key found @ 0x42E4 key is 00000000000000000000000000000000
Firmware is Samsung OSIG: TSSTcorpDVD-ROM TS-H943Ams28
Firmware type is: Stock
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The drive was working as far as I know.
As I said in my first post, I wasn't the first to try and read the firmware, I guess he could have writen the original firmware back to the drive with the missing key information, but I doubt it... He swears he only pressed read/sammy unlock/outro ATA-reset within JF.
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Did u try and play any games with that drive? If it still plays originals then the key is still there and u just gotta figure how to pull it. If it doesn't play any games however, then I'm afraid you're 360 is a gonner.
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Thanks for your help guys. I got a game and the insert in a 360 message came up... Oh well. Don't know how it happened, guess the wrong button must have gotten pressed in JF.
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So I talked to the guy who tried to read the firmware from the 360 first, and neither of us have ever pressed the write/erase button in JF, and never used fsam in iprep. How is it possible for the key to be gone?
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no idea
its supposed to be in the firmware when you read it
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OK so is it possible that both programs are reading the wrong location? I looked at 0x40EC I find a key there.
40DD FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 0C EE EE EE EE
40EC FF 81 -- DE -- 46 -- 62 -- E1 -- 10 -- 53 --
40BB -- 0D 11 11 11 11 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF
*I edited the 40EC line 
I'm hoping the laser is just dirty so i got the insert game error, but hopefully this key will work?
Sidenote, sorry wasn't trying to bump, there was no edit button for the previous post
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still dont think thats the right key as it has multiple F's
just looking at a copy of ms28 file i have here and it starts with E0___ end in AA dvd key at 0x401A
it does have 4 F's in it but is scattered
u need to look for it at 0x42E4 as this is what is showing on your log or try searching for a key that has 4 f's scattered through a key
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look at the 40EC line, i just inserted the line above and below for reference. Does the line above and below your key look similar? It looks similar to the one I was comparing it to
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 26 2009, 02:04 PM)

look at the 40EC line, i just inserted the line above and below for reference. Does the line above and below your key look similar? It looks similar to the one I was comparing it to
thats the one i was talking about
dont believe any samsung dvdkey starts with 2 F's
its similar numbers and letters i just dont like the double f's but hey take a copy of it and keep safe and make a copy of the firmware you dumped and keep that safe try to inject this key
cant hurt and give it a go
as i said make backup copies of the dumped firmware and key and keep for future ref
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YAY IT WORKS!!!
Thanks so much Hardie and everyone else. For other people having this problem then you just have to look through your hex file and find the key, there are multiple locations where the key can be read, in my case BOTH JungleFlasher AND iPrep v006 AND iPrep 008.0 ALL read the wrong key.
I think you can just look through the hex file starting at 4000, look for the EE EE EE EE line with valid data after it and your key should be following.
(I think it is always 0C EE EE EE EE, so some people recomend searching for 0C)
Good luck to you all, and thanks again!
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QUOTE(joyu @ Apr 26 2009, 02:55 PM)

YAY IT WORKS!!!
Thanks so much Hardie and everyone else. For other people having this problem then you just have to look through your hex file and find the key, there are multiple locations where the key can be read, in my case BOTH JungleFlasher AND iPrep v006 AND iPrep 008.0 ALL read the wrong key.
I think you can just look through the hex file starting at 4000, look for the EE EE EE EE line with valid data after it and your key should be following.
(I think it is always 0C EE EE EE EE, so some people recomend searching for 0C)
Good luck to you all, and thanks again!
GREAT glad you got it sorted out
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Yup

1 More thing. I was getting the Insert Disc Into a 360 Error message, so anyone who is getting this message on the 360, and are SURE you didn't erase/write the firmware yet there is still hope.