Post by: DarkDeity on August 10, 2004, 01:46:00 PM
Post by: man_of_war2081 on August 10, 2004, 09:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (DarkDeity @ Aug 10 2004, 09:26 PM) |
| if this looks like you i found the solution, that is a quote from my earlier post, after sometime messing around with it i found how to unlock an xbox hdd without the password: NOTE: this hasn't been fully tested and could possibly (not likely) result in hdd, xbox, or pc failure. Do NOT blame me if that occurs. and if done successfully all your locked hdd data will be erased. I have 120 gig hard drive that was locked to a broken motherboard of mine. I locked it using EvoX so there was no master password to unlock my hdd with nor did i have my mobo hdd Key. Using my pc i succesfully unlocked my hdd... heres how. What you need: 1 disk with atapwd.exe on it (found on xbox-scene.com under "tools") 1 disk with KillDisk.exe on it (found on Killdisk.com) 1 locked hdd 1 pc with no hdd's or cd roms atatched to it How: Hook your HDD up to your pc and load up Atapwd.exe Note: as your pc loads it will NOT recognize the hdd, only atapwd.exe will. locate your drive on atapwd.exe and click enter > S.M.A.R.T (<--or something like that) > Enable Operations. It should say "command ceompleted .. OK" or something like that. Now go back to the main screen. click enter on your hdd and choose the other option (dont remember the name) and choose "Set master password" and type in something like "XBOX". Now go to "unlock with master password" and type in "XBOX" now click "disable with master password" and type in "XBOX" now just wait at the screen where you select which hdd you want to choose. DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR PC. Now here is the hard part (which isn't all that hard). Unplug the IDE cable (NOT THE POWER CABLE) from your hdd and plug in your xbox IDE cable into your hdd. So ur hdd is powered by the pc and connected with IDE to the xbox. Turn on ur xbox and wait... wait... wait... after about 15 seconds you should get error 07, GOOD!. Now turn off your pc and xbox at the SAME time. So the xbox hdd thinks the xbox initiated shutdown. If the hdd thinks the pc initiated shutdown it will reset your lock. Unplug the IDE cable from the xbox and plug the hdd back into the pc. Turn on your pc and as its loading it SHOULD recognize your drive. Put the KILLDISK floppy in and let it boot up (may take a minute) now locate your drive, hit [F 10] and it should all be ready to format, just check "skip confirmation" and hit "start erasing" this should take up to about 45 minutes. NOTE: if your hdd is bigger than 8 gigs (which it should be) it will only say 7.8 gb on KILLDISK but it's ok b/c mine worked and its a 120 giger. When its done power off your pc, unplug the freshly formatted hdd (if the hdd is warm thats a good sign) now plug it in to your xbox, load up something to prepare your new hdd (i used evox) and it should all work.. mine did! Special thanks to: Thedustycelt: helped me via aim to understand the hdd Animex2: kept my old hdd password from a year ago even though it proved to be uneeded (and thanks for getting me into xbox modding) HSDEMONZ: for giving me a 3 day posting ban, if it wasnt for not being allowed to ask questions i would have never tried this method of unlocking my hdd!! Hope this helps everyone! ]- DarkDeity |
Awsome post!
Post by: CivicGuy03 on August 10, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
Post by: zac_haryy on August 10, 2004, 09:54:00 PM
How:
Hook your HDD up to your pc and load up Atapwd.exe
Note: as your pc loads it will NOT recognize the hdd, only atapwd.exe will.
locate your drive on atapwd.exe and click enter > S.M.A.R.T (<--or something like that) > Enable Operations. It should say "command ceompleted .. OK" or something like that.
Now go back to the main screen. click enter on your hdd and choose the other option (dont remember the name) and choose "Set master password" and type in something like "XBOX".
Where I type in the password it says that it is rejected. I made it so that the computer wouldnt recongize it and everything. I ahve the hdd in slave mode. Is that where it should be?? Please let me know. Thanks!!
-haryy
Post by: chimpanzee on August 10, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (DarkDeity @ Aug 10 2004, 09:26 PM) |
| if this looks like you i found the solution, that is a quote from my earlier post, after sometime messing around with it i found how to unlock an xbox hdd without the password: NOTE: this hasn't been fully tested and could possibly (not likely) result in hdd, xbox, or pc failure. Do NOT blame me if that occurs. and if done successfully all your locked hdd data will be erased. I have 120 gig hard drive that was locked to a broken motherboard of mine. I locked it using EvoX so there was no master password to unlock my hdd with nor did i have my mobo hdd Key. Using my pc i succesfully unlocked my hdd... heres how. What you need: 1 disk with atapwd.exe on it (found on xbox-scene.com under "tools") 1 disk with KillDisk.exe on it (found on Killdisk.com) 1 locked hdd 1 pc with no hdd's or cd roms atatched to it How: Hook your HDD up to your pc and load up Atapwd.exe Note: as your pc loads it will NOT recognize the hdd, only atapwd.exe will. locate your drive on atapwd.exe and click enter > S.M.A.R.T (<--or something like that) > Enable Operations. It should say "command ceompleted .. OK" or something like that. Now go back to the main screen. click enter on your hdd and choose the other option (dont remember the name) and choose "Set master password" and type in something like "XBOX". Now go to "unlock with master password" and type in "XBOX" now click "disable with master password" and type in "XBOX" now just wait at the screen where you select which hdd you want to choose. DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR PC. Now here is the hard part (which isn't all that hard). Unplug the IDE cable (NOT THE POWER CABLE) from your hdd and plug in your xbox IDE cable into your hdd. So ur hdd is powered by the pc and connected with IDE to the xbox. Turn on ur xbox and wait... wait... wait... after about 15 seconds you should get error 07, GOOD!. Now turn off your pc and xbox at the SAME time. So the xbox hdd thinks the xbox initiated shutdown. If the hdd thinks the pc initiated shutdown it will reset your lock. Unplug the IDE cable from the xbox and plug the hdd back into the pc. Turn on your pc and as its loading it SHOULD recognize your drive. Put the KILLDISK floppy in and let it boot up (may take a minute) now locate your drive, hit [F 10] and it should all be ready to format, just check "skip confirmation" and hit "start erasing" this should take up to about 45 minutes. NOTE: if your hdd is bigger than 8 gigs (which it should be) it will only say 7.8 gb on KILLDISK but it's ok b/c mine worked and its a 120 giger. When its done power off your pc, unplug the freshly formatted hdd (if the hdd is warm thats a good sign) now plug it in to your xbox, load up something to prepare your new hdd (i used evox) and it should all work.. mine did! Special thanks to: Thedustycelt: helped me via aim to understand the hdd Animex2: kept my old hdd password from a year ago even though it proved to be uneeded (and thanks for getting me into xbox modding) HSDEMONZ: for giving me a 3 day posting ban, if it wasnt for not being allowed to ask questions i would have never tried this method of unlocking my hdd!! Hope this helps everyone! ]- DarkDeity |
huh ? sounds too good to be true. Are you using the old Xbox to unlock it ?
Post by: lordvader129 on August 10, 2004, 10:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (tester123 @ Aug 10 2004, 11:34 PM) |
| If you locked it with Evox just use atapwd.exe and use the master password "TEAMASSEMBLY" You wont loose any data and you wont need to go through hell either. Quote from the Read Me that comes with EvolutionX Build 3921 (it works with ALL current EvolutionX releases). |
configmagic also sets the master password to TEAMASSEMBLY
this trick only works if there is NO master password set (maybe if you locked with a gen4 modchip?)
Post by: networkBoy on August 10, 2004, 11:08:00 PM
That said, I'll beleive it when I see it. I'll do this to confirm tommorow evening if I have time.
-nB
Post by: lordvader129 on August 10, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (tester123 @ Aug 11 2004, 12:14 AM) |
| Could you elaborate more? The master password IS set if you lock it using EvoX, thats the point I'm trying to get across. If you lock it using EvoX, you can unlock it using atapwd.exe and "TEAMASSEMBLY". If in doubt give it a test, that's what Xbox modding is all about.  |
right, evox and config magoc both set eh master password to TEAMASSEMBLY
what i meant was the method detailed by DarkDeity only works if there is NO master password set (IE, you locked with a program OTHER THAN evox or config magic) and i sugested perhaps a gen4 mochip OS would leave the master password blank
Post by: DarkDeity on August 11, 2004, 10:07:00 AM
@lordvader129 i must have used an old EvoX build because i had no master password set. [edit] I had tried using TEAMASSEMBLY as master pwd before i did my other method of unlocking my hard drive but it didnt work [/edit]
@tester123 ive only had 1 modchip and thasts my x2.2 lite
@zac_haryy i had mine set to master.. b/c it needs to be master when it is plugged into the xbox... make sure u clikc the "s.m.a.r.t" button and set it too Enable Operations First... then wen u set password to w/e you want (i used "hey") go to unlock and disable with that as the MASTER password.. it should show unlock and disabled as set.
@CivicGuy03 i don't see why a stock hdd wont work
Post by: DarkDeity on August 11, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: zac_haryy on August 11, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
-haryy
Post by: chimpanzee on August 11, 2004, 04:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (DarkDeity @ Aug 11 2004, 06:10 PM) |
| @chimpanzee i used the new xbox wen i unlocked it, my old xbox is broken @lordvader129 i must have used an old EvoX build because i had no master password set. [edit] I had tried using TEAMASSEMBLY as master pwd before i did my other method of unlocking my hard drive but it didnt work [/edit] @tester123 ive only had 1 modchip and thasts my x2.2 lite @zac_haryy i had mine set to master.. b/c it needs to be master when it is plugged into the xbox... make sure u clikc the "s.m.a.r.t" button and set it too Enable Operations First... then wen u set password to w/e you want (i used "hey") go to unlock and disable with that as the MASTER password.. it should show unlock and disabled as set. @CivicGuy03 i don't see why a stock hdd wont work |
This is really strange then. I just can't understand how it would work given my limited understanding of the ATA security mechanism.
Post by: networkBoy on August 11, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (chimpanzee @ Aug 12 2004, 12:52 AM) |
| This is really strange then. I just can't understand how it would work given my limited understanding of the ATA security mechanism. |
by all rights it shouldn't work. So either this is BS or he found an exploit.
I'm hoping it's the exploit b/c it would be a better solution than what I've been working on.
-nB
Post by: zac_haryy on August 11, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
-haryy
Post by: chimpanzee on August 11, 2004, 09:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (networkBoy @ Aug 12 2004, 02:34 AM) |
| by all rights it shouldn't work. So either this is BS or he found an exploit. I'm hoping it's the exploit b/c it would be a better solution than what I've been working on. -nB |
If it is a bug(of the drive firmware?), it would work even if one just use standard PC as they are all just ATA commands.
However, if it really is a bug, it may be just for that particular model or brand. Unless of course it is a bug of the ATA spec, which I don't think is the case here.
Post by: 23ways on August 12, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
I'm having the same problem as Zac, when I try to input a password it gets rejected, can you tell me what it is that you guys did to get the password correct. I appreciate it.
Post by: DarkDeity on August 12, 2004, 04:01:00 PM
Post by: b01 on August 12, 2004, 07:22:00 PM
), if not, then that is ok. I want to try this on a stock XBOX drive that I never unlocked, using a different xbox, so that I may confirm your method.
Post by: heinrich on August 12, 2004, 07:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (DarkDeity @ Aug 11 2004, 02:10 PM) |
| @lordvader129 i must have used an old EvoX build because i had no master password set. [edit] I had tried using TEAMASSEMBLY as master pwd before i did my other method of unlocking my hard drive but it didnt work [/edit] |
what are you talking about, hddlock/unlock was only implemented 2 versions ago (3921 - as someone else pointed), and it does indeed set the master password. If you were using a version older then that, then you didnt use evox to lock the drive, which means evox has nothing to do with it at all.
Post by: 23ways on August 12, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
Post by: chimpanzee on August 13, 2004, 02:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (23ways @ Aug 13 2004, 07:26 AM) |
| dark d, I'm still having problems, I followed your steps to the "t" and still can't seem to get it right. The hard drive is from another mb thats toast. So I have no clue on what to do next. I keep on trying unlock it but nothing. iF ZAC HARYY is out there how did you get urs to work? |
It looks like at most a bug in the HD firmware and not a universal way to do it. So if you follow it to the 't' and still can't have it, forget it.
The procedure defies the whole ATA security mechanism.
Post by: zac_haryy on August 13, 2004, 06:26:00 AM
-haryy
Post by: DarkDeity on August 13, 2004, 08:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (23ways @ Aug 13 2004, 07:26 AM) |
| dark d, I'm still having problems, I followed your steps to the "t" and still can't seem to get it right. The hard drive is from another mb thats toast. So I have no clue on what to do next. I keep on trying unlock it but nothing. iF ZAC HARYY is out there how did you get urs to work? |
the "t"?
Post by: ButtersB on August 13, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
Post by: DarkDeity on August 13, 2004, 09:08:00 AM
Post by: ButtersB on August 13, 2004, 09:22:00 AM
"This suits me to a tee"
meaning "this is exactly what i wanted, this suits me perfectly"
Post by: 23ways on August 13, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
Post by: DarkDeity on August 13, 2004, 11:48:00 AM
i have no clue why its not wkring.. i think my hdd had an error to begin with
Post by: _mikec_ on August 13, 2004, 03:41:00 PM
is there a way i can bypass the lock and format the dam hard drive?
or perhaps do something about the 16:9 tv settings?
Post by: networkBoy on August 13, 2004, 03:49:00 PM
- 1) Drive make and model number
2) Drive manufacture date
3) HDA assembly rev
4) Logic board assy rev
5) Firmware revision
6) Firmware dump (if possible)
Cheers,
-nB
Post by: _mikec_ on August 13, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: networkBoy on August 14, 2004, 12:10:00 AM
-nB
Post by: zac_haryy on August 14, 2004, 07:50:00 AM
-haryy
Post by: gonhunter on August 14, 2004, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: networkBoy on August 14, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
Sorry your drive bit it, but so far I've completely destroyed at least a dozen drives (read over a hundred bucks worth) of seagate drives attempting to devine a weakness in the locking method, all for the greater good of the scene.
-nB
Post by: networkBoy on August 14, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (DarkDeity @ Aug 14 2004, 05:43 PM) |
| @gonhunter ... the killdisk is supposed to "kill" your hdd... thats a good sign, now it is factory fresh, you should put it in your xbox and use soemthing like EvoX to prepare it (create C:, E:, F:, X:, Y:, Z:) and then it SHOULD work |
He's getting err 06. the drive is still locked.
-nB
Post by: DarkDeity on August 14, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (networkBoy @ Aug 14 2004, 05:46 PM) |
| He's getting err 06. the drive is still locked. -nB |
if the drive is locked HOW could he use killdisk, killdisk doesnt read locked hdd's..
Post by: gonhunter on August 14, 2004, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: DarkDeity on August 15, 2004, 09:15:00 AM
| QUOTE (gonhunter @ Aug 14 2004, 09:02 PM) |
| My harddrive really is locked. then i did those stuff you posted, then when i put the hd on the xbox it booted fine, it even loaded the dashboard, after that i tried doing all those stuff again it didnt work i couldnt set a password anymore (i think it got changed) |
if it worked the first time (it actually worked for someone!) why would you do it again for good measure??
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 15, 2004, 10:08:00 AM
with your method i went through the SMART blar blar blar and am unable to set a Master password as i have to enter the CURRENT password or the drive will not accept the command!!!
Post by: DarkDeity on August 15, 2004, 08:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mad Hatter @ Aug 15 2004, 06:11 PM) |
| DarkDeity .. what exactly are yo on about ... have you ever used evox ? as i have folowed your instructions to the letter and .. nope .. it doesnt work .. the only way in heaven you will get your idea to work is if your drive DID NOT have a master password in the begining or you simply knew it! with your method i went through the SMART blar blar blar and am unable to set a Master password as i have to enter the CURRENT password or the drive will not accept the command!!! |
Well yes i have used EvoX,,. it hasent been working for a lot of people so something was screwed up with drive, i think we found this out wen my current hdd password did NOT work with my hdd... so maybe in heaven my drive DIDNT have a password... and i tried TEAMASSEMBLY as password and it DIDNT work, i alreayd wrote that back in my thread maybe you should have read it.
blar blar blar you had no reason to try this so you shoulda only used it if it was a last resort
Post by: Mad Hatter on August 15, 2004, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: DarkDeity on August 15, 2004, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: Roj X. Mugwump on August 16, 2004, 01:34:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| hey thanks, but that whole killdisk part killed my harddrive.... just skip it. now whenever i boot up i get error 06 and the Master Password fu***** is fucking change. You shouldnt have put that killdisk part. |
depending what os u are running on your pc, if xp check out mmc, snap in the
disk management tool, and you should be home and hosed...
cheers
roj