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Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: swg1251 on March 07, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
I recently flashed my IX1.5 LiteOn to an updated 1.51 and it plays my HAWX backup perfectly, however my friend's Hitachi which i just flashed w/ 1.51 that i got from Xbins won't play it. I have tried using a backup of Saint's Row 2 in that drive and it works fine, so do all my originals. Does anyone know if something is wrong w/ the xbins Hitachi 1.51? After flashing, it verified correctly and said my firmware type was iXtreme1.51 for a Hitachi 47, which is correct.

Does anyone else have this problem or a solution to this problem?

Thanks..
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: Takashi on March 07, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
Nothings wrong.
Hitachi's BLOW.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: armada66 on March 07, 2009, 09:06:00 PM

Well i got a launch Hitachi Takashi and its never missed a beat.



On topic, I've flashed a 47, 78 and 79 hitachi in the past day and all three consoles play HAWX no worries. Currently playing it on LIVE as we speak actually on a 47.


What happens when it doesnt work, does it give a white screen like it did before on 1.5 or under firmwares?



I'd restore to original firmware in JF, then flash again, might just have been a bad flash.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: swg1251 on March 07, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
QUOTE(armada66 @ Mar 7 2009, 10:42 PM) View Post

Well i got a launch Hitachi Takashi and its never missed a beat.
On topic, I've flashed a 47, 78 and 79 hitachi in the past day and all three consoles play HAWX no worries. Currently playing it on LIVE as we speak actually on a 47.
What happens when it doesnt work, does it give a white screen like it did before on 1.5 or under firmwares?
I'd restore to original firmware in JF, then flash again, might just have been a bad flash.


Yes, this is a launch hitachi as well.

Here's my procedure (all using JungleFlasher)

Dump Firmware, save as HitOFW
Open up orig47 as target and use that to restore drive to stock
After restore, open HitOFW as source, open ix151-47 as target and spoof source to target, save this file - just in case
Hit flash iXtreme button
All flashes ok, it says write verified ok, Hitachi 47 IX 1.51 etc....

However, when I dump this firmware and load it up, it says it is stock.... I know it isn't stock, because I can still play my Saints Row 2 backup, but I can't play my HAWX backup - Its not a bad backup, it works perfectly on my LiteOn

And when i say it isn't working I mean that it spins the disc for a while, then instead of launching the game or giving me an option to "Play Game", it just has the option to open my tray, like there is no disc at all..

Should i try flashing using a different method like 360 toolbox or something? JungleFlasher seems to be working fine but then once I test my drive it doesn't work...
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: uradodah on March 08, 2009, 03:09:00 AM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Mar 7 2009, 10:53 PM) View Post

Yes, this is a launch hitachi as well.

Here's my procedure (all using JungleFlasher)

Dump Firmware, save as HitOFW
Open up orig47 as target and use that to restore drive to stock
After restore, open HitOFW as source, open ix151-47 as target and spoof source to target, save this file - just in case
Hit flash iXtreme button
All flashes ok, it says write verified ok, Hitachi 47 IX 1.51 etc....

However, when I dump this firmware and load it up, it says it is stock.... I know it isn't stock, because I can still play my Saints Row 2 backup, but I can't play my HAWX backup - Its not a bad backup, it works perfectly on my LiteOn

And when i say it isn't working I mean that it spins the disc for a while, then instead of launching the game or giving me an option to "Play Game", it just has the option to open my tray, like there is no disc at all..

Should i try flashing using a different method like 360 toolbox or something? JungleFlasher seems to be working fine but then once I test my drive it doesn't work...

Listen, I'm an amateur here so you could very well know a heck of a lot more than me.  However, I just got done flashing my Hitachi 47 using J. Flasher and it worked well.  However, the steps you mentioned are a bit different than the ones I followed.  

I followed the steps listed in the J. Flasher Beta PDF and they make no mention of using a 'spoof' option when flashing a Hitachi 47.  As a matter of fact, the only selections I made in the 'Flashing Options' section were 'Restore Firmware' and 'Flash iXtreme'.  The 'Flash Spoof Data' wasn't even mentioned in the Hitachi tutorial as far as I could see.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: omerta 360 on March 08, 2009, 03:50:00 AM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Mar 8 2009, 04:53 AM) View Post



And when i say it isn't working I mean that it spins the disc for a while, then instead of launching the game or giving me an option to "Play Game", it just has the option to open my tray, like there is no disc at all..





thats why i replaced my hitachi drive with a lite-on, hitachis are just too temperamental smile.gif
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: crazygoldfish on March 08, 2009, 05:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Takashi @ Mar 8 2009, 06:35 AM) View Post

Nothings wrong.
Hitachi's BLOW.


thats really helpful.............

Did you remember and restore his hitachi to its original firmware? upgrading the firmware can have un predicitable results on the hitachis and is generally not recommeneded.


anyway I didnt use jungleflasher between its bugs and windows constantly crashing its not worth the effort.

I used firmware toolbox 4.8 to get 1.51 on my hitachi and all is working well.

Get your hitachi into mode b, whatever method you prefer.

1. tools direct drive dump.

Save the original bin in a safe place and say yes to the datacheck.

2. in the box where it shows the drive key copy this.

3.  file open ------> select ix1.51

4. enter the copied key into the new firmware ( not 100% certain if this is necessary but I done it anyway )

5. tools direct drive flash ( patch ).

6. read drive and detect differences/

7. start flashing.

8. your good to go.

good luck
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: Takashi on March 08, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
It's the most help available honestly.
Hitachi's are the #1 replaced/spoofed drive, because it may play originals after flashing, a backup
disk is a another deal, the lasers are too weak to read even verbatims in my experience.

75% of the Hitachi's I flash get replaced.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: grapperus on March 08, 2009, 07:53:00 AM
i have the same trouble, iv`e updated a few 78`s and benq today and the 6 79fl`s with 1.51 final don`t work with hawx any ideas apart from slagging the new range of hitachi`s............would be be nice to get some proper 79fl feedback with 79-4c30 and 79-4b00 ranges

79-4c30 disc unreadable
79-4b00 xbox logo

This post has been edited by grapperus: Mar 8 2009, 02:59 PM
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: Exobex on March 08, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
QUOTE(crazygoldfish @ Mar 8 2009, 12:15 PM) View Post

thats really helpful.............

Did you remember and restore his hitachi to its original firmware? upgrading the firmware can have un predicitable results on the hitachis and is generally not recommeneded.
anyway I didnt use jungleflasher between its bugs and windows constantly crashing its not worth the effort.

I used firmware toolbox 4.8 to get 1.51 on my hitachi and all is working well.

Get your hitachi into mode b, whatever method you prefer.

1. tools direct drive dump.

Save the original bin in a safe place and say yes to the datacheck.

2. in the box where it shows the drive key copy this.

3.  file open ------> select ix1.51

4. enter the copied key into the new firmware ( not 100% certain if this is necessary but I done it anyway )

5. tools direct drive flash ( patch ).

6. read drive and detect differences/

7. start flashing.

8. your good to go.

good luck

Nice tutorial!  Worth bearing in mind for 78/79 drives that there are four firmwares to choose from.  If "detect differences" finds pages and pages of differences, try a different firmware.  If on the other hand it comes up with the dozen or so it usually finds, you should be fine.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: flash360 on March 08, 2009, 08:38:00 AM
Open tray usualy means you need a bumper on your laser carage, its actually more to do with your burner than your media or drive.
 when hitachis try to read a disc they dont spin out far enough to find the first bit of data on the disc sad.gif  Therefore you need to glue someting (I find the rubber foot off a wii is just the right size about 2 or 3 mm biggrin.gif ) to the white bit on your laser carrage that connects to a small switch (also white). This makes your laser stay a bit further out and so it catches the first bit of data when it spins up.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: swg1251 on March 08, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE(flash360 @ Mar 8 2009, 09:14 AM) *

Open tray usualy means you need a bumper on your laser carage, its actually more to do with your burner than your media or drive.
 when hitachis try to read a disc they dont spin out far enough to find the first bit of data on the disc (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)  Therefore you need to glue someting (I find the rubber foot off a wii is just the right size about 2 or 3 mm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) to the white bit on your laser carrage that connects to a small switch (also white). This makes your laser stay a bit further out and so it catches the first bit of data when it spins up.


Ok thanks for the info - it seems that most people think the drive just isn't too great...

But what made me think in the first place that it was my firmware was the fact that it still loaded a "wave 2" backup with no problems, it just wouldn't load a "wave 3" (HAWX). I may try flashing again by following the PDF tutorial exactly step-by-step, or somehow using FW toolbox or something like that.

If I can't get it to work that way, I'll assume that it's the laser and try the fix that flash360 mentioned, or maybe just advise him to get a new xbox, since he says his has been acting up lately anyways.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: TeeVee on March 08, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE
thats really helpful.............

Did you remember and restore his hitachi to its original firmware? upgrading the firmware can have un predicitable results on the hitachis and is generally not recommeneded.
anyway I didnt use jungleflasher between its bugs and windows constantly crashing its not worth the effort.

I used firmware toolbox 4.8 to get 1.51 on my hitachi and all is working well.

Get your hitachi into mode b, whatever method you prefer.

1. tools direct drive dump.

Save the original bin in a safe place and say yes to the datacheck.

2. in the box where it shows the drive key copy this.

3. file open ------> select ix1.51

4. enter the copied key into the new firmware ( not 100% certain if this is necessary but I done it anyway )

5. tools direct drive flash ( patch ).

6. read drive and detect differences/

7. start flashing.

8. your good to go.

good luck
Quote

Looks easy enough. But how do iI restore to orig firmware before I try this? Can that be done with Firmware Toolbox? If so how?
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: crazygoldfish on March 08, 2009, 06:16:00 PM
OK to restore the firmware is easy.

File open and select the orginal bin file.

Tools and drive drive flash and pick ( restore )

detect difference tab - click that.

Then start flashing.

Restart xbox and your back on oooooringal firmware.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: TeeVee on March 12, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
Crazygoldfish, finally got the balls to try this out...opened orig firmware..clicked on direct drive flash (restore) then saw box to Use Classic Mode (clicked this since my drive is a 47). Clicked on read difference...got message saying image no different than that on drive. I know this is not the case since I've been playing backups for months. And yes I did click on original backup of firmware...then brought me to screen where it says "Choose Program to Invoke" Internal flasher does not support usb to sata...then under drop down it lists 45.exe, 46.exe, 47.exe...I have 360USB I'm using so don't know what to do here. Oh and btw, if I did not click on "Use Classic Mode" it told me to insert movie dvd...

Can you guide me here?

Update...tried inserting original xbox360 game into drive, waited 20 secs then clicked read difference...got error: could not read drive.

This post has been edited by TeeVee: Mar 13 2009, 04:56 AM
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: crazygoldfish on March 19, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
sorry been mega busy this week at work, did you get any luck restoring the firmware?


Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: strawsy on March 20, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
It seems almost impossible to restore a hitachi. I have one I can't restore myself.
Title: Hitachi Ix-1.51 Not Working?
Post by: swg1251 on March 21, 2009, 10:52:00 PM
QUOTE(flash360 @ Mar 8 2009, 09:14 AM) View Post

Open tray usualy means you need a bumper on your laser carage, its actually more to do with your burner than your media or drive.
 when hitachis try to read a disc they dont spin out far enough to find the first bit of data on the disc sad.gif  Therefore you need to glue someting (I find the rubber foot off a wii is just the right size about 2 or 3 mm biggrin.gif ) to the white bit on your laser carrage that connects to a small switch (also white). This makes your laser stay a bit further out and so it catches the first bit of data when it spins up.


Alright, I know this is a big bump but I still need some help here, my friend is over again and we are trying again to flash his 360 to 1.51.

I am considering trying this laser fix, but I would like to know a couple of things first...

Is there a detailed tutorial somewhere on these forums? I'm not exactly sure what this procedure is called so I'm not sure what to search for.

Also - his xbox used to play backups fine on 1.4, so we just tried restoring it to 1.4 and the my computer told me that all went well, however, it still can't play backups... If it was a problem with the laser, would it stop reading backups so suddenly? Or could I have messed it up trying to flash it last time? ...The xbox plays original games flawlessly, could the flashing could have messed up and the drive is still stock?

Any help is still much appreciated, thank you.