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Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on January 31, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
...that's basically what the tool from diygadget.com is, at least some of them are. I tried to copy their model, but I don't know exactly what I'm doing. I used a V1 CK, with pin 5 from the dsub going to the ground on the MOLEX connection, then RX going to the voltage regulator (3.3v), and TX going to R707 on the LiteOn drive - no dice, so I switched RX and TX...still no dice. I thought I had figured something clever out here, but apparently not. The drive does show up in Maximus Xtractor, and so does my COM to USB adapter, so the problem must be in the way I'm connecting this - anyone have some advice for me?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: STICKY_BUD on February 01, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
sounds like you are skipping a part here. are you using a ttl converter with max232 or max3232? you need one of those or else you need yaywoops liteon for free thread...

(IMG:http://natane.net/temp/mykeyextractor.jpg)

a premade rs232-ttl converter will have at least 4 pins or pads to connect to(vcc, gnd, tx, rx).

good luck!

This post has been edited by STICKY_BUD: Feb 1 2009, 08:21 AM
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 01, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Yeah, now I see where I'm going wrong. Basically I was trying to piece together too many guides and make my own simple tool. Where did you get your rs232-ttl adapter? I like your setup there...I do have a dead Xbox 1 PSU that I could probably get all of the needed pieces for the yaywoop-inspired adapter, but being as it's a dead PSU, I don't know exactly what still works on it. Only one way to find out I guess. Thanks.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: Hype on February 01, 2009, 11:57:00 PM
a little add-on:
(IMG:http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3540/poweronoffwc7.jpg)

this on/off switch is very useful for the CKv1.

This post has been edited by Hype: Feb 2 2009, 07:58 AM
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: STICKY_BUD on February 02, 2009, 02:37:00 AM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Feb 1 2009, 10:46 PM) View Post

Yeah, now I see where I'm going wrong. Basically I was trying to piece together too many guides and make my own simple tool. Where did you get your rs232-ttl adapter? I like your setup there...I do have a dead Xbox 1 PSU that I could probably get all of the needed pieces for the yaywoop-inspired adapter, but being as it's a dead PSU, I don't know exactly what still works on it. Only one way to find out I guess. Thanks.

i have owned that ttl converter for awhile - originally bought it on ebay for less than $10

QUOTE(Hype @ Feb 1 2009, 11:33 PM) View Post

a little add-on:
IPB Image


this on/off switch is very useful for the CKv1.

yes, i added a switch to that particular setup. i also ended up replacing the molex adapter with one that was designed for addon case fans with a 4 pin connector. this works perfectly with the ttl converter which has 4 pins on the other side of the solder connections i made.

those 2 changes made it easier to use with liteons as well as kept the original purpose of flashing any other 360 drive(without the ttl converter connected via solder)...

however, i actually replaced that kit with something much better that a bst'er made for me per my specs. i found a picture that the bst'er took and posted himself so hopefully this link works. check it out:
IPB Image

the full meter of length makes a big difference to my setup and it is not flimsy at all.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: Dre@m on February 02, 2009, 02:45:00 AM
My kit. CK 1.2

This post has been edited by Dre@m: Feb 2 2009, 10:46 AM
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 03, 2009, 08:55:00 AM
Ok, so I just went ahead and built this, it was cheap, and now it won't be harder to use the CK with older drives. Does this look like a good circuit?

(IMG:http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7346/dscn0316fr9.jpg)
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: some.fatty on February 04, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
brandogg, could we possibly have a pic of the bottom of your board please?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 04, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
I can get one if you need, but it's pretty easy to figure out what goes where - pin 5 on the serial goes to E (emitter), pin 2 goes to C (collector), followed by the 1k resistor which then goes to the 5v Molex, the 10k resistor goes to B (base) on one side, and the tx (r707 on LiteOn drive) via the sewing needle (my spear).
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: some.fatty on February 04, 2009, 12:36:00 PM
that will do thx, I have never made my own this is new to me.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: STICKY_BUD on February 04, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
good job brandogg. i do not know about the circuits for your diy solution, but double check it with yaywoop's thread.

for the future benefit of anybody who clicks on this thread for information pertaining to the original title, here is a link to the CHEAPEST ttl converters i have found anywhere...
http://alldav.com

i have not purchased from them yet. somebody posted a link to an offtopic tutorial which included a link to the $4 rs232-ttl converters on that site.

This post has been edited by STICKY_BUD: Feb 4 2009, 09:19 PM
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: some.fatty on February 04, 2009, 05:54:00 PM
another question, where did you get your serial port? (can I buy just that somewhere?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 05, 2009, 12:23:00 AM
Any serial to USB adapter should work, I got mine from a local place called Bits Computers - they have the adapter on their site (www.bitscomputer.com - search for serial), but they can't do online orders. You can call them and order it, or find the same model somewhere else - btw, feel free to copy my setup, and it works perfectly!

Edit - this costs exactly $5.90 to build at Radio Shack (if you live in Florida), so you'd save a couple bucks ordering from the site STICKY BUD linked to, but you'd have to wait for shipping, I've got to admit $4 is one Hell of a deal.

This post has been edited by brandogg: Feb 5 2009, 08:26 AM
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: some.fatty on February 13, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
have you tested yet brandogg did your circuitry work?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 14, 2009, 12:43:00 AM
Yes, it worked perfectly. I did move the Molex connection to the right side of the board, and the spear comes from the bottom now...with a much longer wire. I might get a box to stuff it in, so I don't have to constantly make sure it's not going to ground out on something.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: some.fatty on February 14, 2009, 04:41:00 PM
are you using a serial to usb adaptor or are you running straight to serial, if the former how did you get the pc to recognize the device?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: brandogg on February 14, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
Serial to USB. I'm on Vista (32bit), I just plugged it in and let Windows Update find some drivers (generic, I assume). I hit the "scan" button in JungleFlasher and it found the com port and the drive.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: dialtone187 on February 18, 2009, 06:19:00 AM
Ok hey guys i need some help I have the same items as the 2nd posters pic (a v1 connectivity kit and a rs232 ttl adapter). Now I'm not exactly trying to make my v1 connectivity kit into that but just flash me 1st liteon period. I'm just using my v1 connectivity kit to power my liteon and using the rs232 ttl adapter seperatly as a probe to dump my key. I've been having a tough time decyphering the schematics for homemade adapters so the only cheap option that seemed to be the easiest was a premade rs232 ttl adapter altho i was not sure what I had to do with it. I got some advice from a user in fw on efnet and he said all I needed to do was solder a single wire to the rx point on my rs232 ttl adapter (which would act as my probe) and add a needle, he said the sata cable would act as a ground so i wouldnt have to worry all i needed was the one wire. Well the setup doesn't seem to work as my via6421 is detecting the drive and com1 is detecting my rs232 ttl adapter and is reporting ready but when i put the probe to the r707 hole and go to dump the key I get 'warning serial data is bad' from jungleflasher, which i get the same error if i try and dump without the probe touching so I assume somethin is up. I think it is one of two things, 1 being I was given bad info and I needed to wire up the adapter differently and 2 being the sewing needle i soldered to the end of the wire is too fat as it can only get 1-2mm into the r707 hole until it gets stuck and won't go in any further and thus not making a connection. If anyone can give me a simple noob solution so I can flash a liteon with this adapter as simple as possible I would be vert grateful. Thanks guys.
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: skippyd on March 08, 2009, 03:49:00 AM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Feb 14 2009, 01:19 AM) View Post

Yes, it worked perfectly. I did move the Molex connection to the right side of the board, and the spear comes from the bottom now...with a much longer wire. I might get a box to stuff it in, so I don't have to constantly make sure it's not going to ground out on something.


did you use a 3.3v or 5v regulator?
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: BigShug105 on March 20, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
Wow - this is confussing as hell...  sad.gif
Title: Build A Liteon Key Extractor With A V1 Connectivit Kit?
Post by: STICKY_BUD on March 21, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
QUOTE(dialtone187 @ Feb 18 2009, 06:55 AM) View Post

Ok hey guys i need some help I have the same items as the 2nd posters pic (a v1 connectivity kit and a rs232 ttl adapter). Now I'm not exactly trying to make my v1 connectivity kit into that but just flash me 1st liteon period. I'm just using my v1 connectivity kit to power my liteon and using the rs232 ttl adapter seperatly as a probe to dump my key. I've been having a tough time decyphering the schematics for homemade adapters so the only cheap option that seemed to be the easiest was a premade rs232 ttl adapter altho i was not sure what I had to do with it. I got some advice from a user in fw on efnet and he said all I needed to do was solder a single wire to the rx point on my rs232 ttl adapter (which would act as my probe) and add a needle, he said the sata cable would act as a ground so i wouldnt have to worry all i needed was the one wire. Well the setup doesn't seem to work as my via6421 is detecting the drive and com1 is detecting my rs232 ttl adapter and is reporting ready but when i put the probe to the r707 hole and go to dump the key I get 'warning serial data is bad' from jungleflasher, which i get the same error if i try and dump without the probe touching so I assume somethin is up. I think it is one of two things, 1 being I was given bad info and I needed to wire up the adapter differently and 2 being the sewing needle i soldered to the end of the wire is too fat as it can only get 1-2mm into the r707 hole until it gets stuck and won't go in any further and thus not making a connection. If anyone can give me a simple noob solution so I can flash a liteon with this adapter as simple as possible I would be vert grateful. Thanks guys.


i know this is an old post, but if anyone else reads this and needs the answer. dialtone187 is needing 2 things to complete his kit fropm where he was at the point in time he wrote this post...

first, he needs to provide power to his rs232-ttl converter. this can be from any number of sources and most likely anything from 3-5v will be enough. he could get the power from the molex connector used for his ck1/2, a modified usb cable could also provide the power and the dvd cable has power options that are easy to grab as well. i used the molex power option, but any of these will be fine.

second, he needs scrape a bit of the coating from the r707 pcb hole to get a good read. he does not have to push the probe into the hole, he just needs to get a solid connection. in other words, the connection happens at the edge of the via hole, not deeper inside.