Post by: kipper2k on December 10, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
Here is a simple way to make a spear for the CK3 Pro that doesnt need anything except 10 minutes of your time and a couple of things you already got around the house. (Thanks to Hype for the initial help). I had a couple of extra 360 DVD cables kicking about hence the black colour. It is identical to the green cable that comes with the CK3
(IMG:http://www.kipper2k.com/images/spear.jpg)
(It is the upper wire that has been cut and spliced). I used a safety pin wedged into a broken pen, glued in place and the wire soldered to the safety pin. there is no need to solder the 2 points on the DVD ROM, just use the regular spot on the board when doing a read.
Tested and works fine.
This post has been edited by kipper2k: Dec 11 2008, 04:38 AM
Post by: oxide32 on December 11, 2008, 01:32:00 AM
does anyone know which pin on the maximus extractor i would connect it to.
thanks.
Post by: neildo on December 11, 2008, 04:16:00 AM
QUOTE(oxide32 @ Dec 11 2008, 09:08 AM) 
looks good to me, was wondering if we could also use an old lead from a multimeter, has a sharp end and i think it would work great.
does anyone know which pin on the maximus extractor i would connect it to.
thanks.
Thats what I used - will post a pic in due course.
Post by: oxide32 on December 11, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: kipper2k on December 11, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
QUOTE(oxide32 @ Dec 11 2008, 05:30 PM)
thanks, look forward to the picture, i might pick up a small 5v led that i can join inline with the wire aswell, might not look as technically perfect as the genuine item but for the amount of times it gets used i think our own item does just aswell for now.
Hi, you won't be able to use a LED with this mod as there is no ground wire that is used. An LED must go to ground so you would need to tap into a ground wire and also use a 400Ohm resistor (Approx) to ground.
Kipper
Post by: oxide32 on December 11, 2008, 12:18:00 PM
thanks again.
Post by: Cold Turkey on December 11, 2008, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: neildo on December 12, 2008, 04:38:00 AM
Post by: mac456 on December 12, 2008, 05:03:00 AM
are there any guides on how to use the probe instead of soldering?
i just need to no if Intel Ich8 will work as a sata connection??
Post by: yaywoop on December 12, 2008, 06:04:00 AM
Post by: oxide32 on December 12, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
many thanks once again for you time.
Post by: mac456 on December 12, 2008, 09:37:00 AM
QUOTE(yaywoop @ Dec 12 2008, 03:40 PM)
do you really need a guide? instead of soldering to the drive, hold the probe to the pad of r707 (the pad closest to the chip.) while you are dumping
thanks
Post by: JeeBoy on December 12, 2008, 10:35:00 AM
Can one not just solder the points??
Whats the diffrence?
Please answer.
Post by: kipper2k on December 12, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
QUOTE(JeeBoy @ Dec 12 2008, 07:11 PM)
why use all these probes??
Can one not just solder the points??
Whats the diffrence?
Please answer.
Why would you want to solder the 2 points and then have to remove them again afterwards when you can just press a probe onto the via hole to get a read. It is non destructive and also reduces the risk of causing damage to the board
kipper
Post by: kipper2k on December 12, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
QUOTE(oxide32 @ Dec 12 2008, 04:39 PM)
many thanks for the pictures! looks the ideal setup. just one last question does the probe wire connect to the data lead via the very top of the lead at the left corner while looking at the connector from the back of it while plugged in. (dont want to connect it to the wrong wire)
many thanks once again for you time.
Yes it does. I mentioned that in the first post
kipper
Post by: oxide32 on December 12, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
Post by: RepsolAL on December 12, 2008, 01:59:00 PM
Today I spliced into the wire like you did, and added a spear made from some wire and a paperclip
and voila !! Keys from my lite-on !! Read them with CK3 tool and again with the maximus reader
and got the same keys both times just to be sure.
thanks
Post by: hetster on December 12, 2008, 02:45:00 PM
in the first image by kipper the wire is spliced and then shared back. but in neildo's image the end is attached to the paperclip homemade spear jobbie direct and not shared back with the dvd drive..so can that wire be safely used solely for the spear or should it be for the spear and the drive..soon as i get confirmation i'm gunna build it..well i allready have it built but no lite-on to test it with so need to know wether to join the wire oe leave ot on spear only..
great little cheap free mod by the way..
This post has been edited by hetster: Dec 12 2008, 10:46 PM
Post by: RepsolAL on December 12, 2008, 03:54:00 PM
they simply bared the wire and spliced a wire for the spear onto it.
Which is what i did, not exactly cutting the wire in the power connector, just removing the outer cover
enough to bare the wire and solder the wire for the spear to it.
Post by: kipper2k on December 12, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
QUOTE(hetster @ Dec 12 2008, 11:21 PM)
ok 1 quick question before i do this..i also have a couple of spare drive cables..
in the first image by kipper the wire is spliced and then shared back. but in neildo's image the end is attached to the paperclip homemade spear jobbie direct and not shared back with the dvd drive..so can that wire be safely used solely for the spear or should it be for the spear and the drive..soon as i get confirmation i'm gunna build it..well i allready have it built but no lite-on to test it with so need to know wether to join the wire oe leave ot on spear only..
great little cheap free mod by the way..
There is a slight difference, On my connector i left the wire intact that was going to the DVD Rom pad, on Niels, he removed it, the wire if you follow it would go to a pad on the DVD Rom which is disconnected from everything so it doesn't matter if you leave it off or connect it up. I just left mine tied in just in case it is needed down the road.
Kipper
Post by: SimianEtza on December 13, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
(IMG:http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o238/SimianEtza/Spearrr.jpg)
Post by: Dan-FDD on December 13, 2008, 08:52:00 AM
QUOTE(SimianEtza @ Dec 13 2008, 04:12 PM)
Here's my shot at the spear. Still gotta wait for the CK3 before I can splice the wires though.
whats that u used?
Post by: SimianEtza on December 13, 2008, 08:54:00 AM
QUOTE(Dan-FDD @ Dec 13 2008, 05:28 PM)
whats that u used?
Safety pin, a pen, wire, tape and some hotglue.
Post by: Teun. on December 13, 2008, 09:20:00 AM
cuz i see on all the images a wire that is connected with ck3
Post by: SimianEtza on December 13, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(Teun. @ Dec 13 2008, 05:56 PM)
Do you need to wire your "spear" to the ck3?
cuz i see on all the images a wire that is connected with ck3
cuz i see on all the images a wire that is connected with ck3
You connect your spear with the power connector supplied with the CK3.
Post by: sasch77 on December 13, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
look at my solution with a needle
very easy to handle
(IMG:http://s10b.directupload.net/images/081213/luceq66o.jpg)
look at my solution with a needle
very easy to handle
Post by: Teun. on December 14, 2008, 04:01:00 AM
QUOTE(SimianEtza @ Dec 13 2008, 06:38 PM)
You connect your spear with the power connector supplied with the CK3.
But why is it needed to connect it?
if you don't connect it, is there still the possibility to read the liteon key?
Post by: Antman1 on December 14, 2008, 07:22:00 AM
QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 12 2008, 12:29 PM)
Why would you want to solder the 2 points and then have to remove them again afterwards when you can
why remove the bridge? If you follow the contacts all you are doing is completing the connection to the spot on the DVD Power cable for tx and if you check the power cable it does not have any wire on it so there is no need to remove it. once it is soldered the advantage (which doesnt matter now) is that the drive doesnt have to be opened again if you have a cable with the wire on the power cable going to the tx pin. so for some it is an advantage but you do not have to remove the wire. it is easy for some to just bridge it. for anyone not handy with a soldering iron use a spear or homemade version.
Post by: kipper2k on December 14, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Antman1 @ Dec 14 2008, 03:58 PM)
why remove the bridge? If you follow the contacts all you are doing is completing the connection to the spot on the DVD Power cable for tx and if you check the power cable it does not have any wire on it so there is no need to remove it. once it is soldered the advantage (which doesnt matter now) is that the drive doesnt have to be opened again if you have a cable with the wire on the power cable going to the tx pin. so for some it is an advantage but you do not have to remove the wire. it is easy for some to just bridge it. for anyone not handy with a soldering iron use a spear or homemade version.
From what i am reading on the forums, once you have the key you will not need to reopen the DVDrom anyway as it will be able to be flashed by the Sata bus so why not try to leave the DVDrom in its original condition
QUOTE(Antman1 @ Dec 14 2008, 03:58 PM)
why remove the bridge? If you follow the contacts all you are doing is completing the connection to the spot on the DVD Power cable for tx and if you check the power cable it does not have any wire on it so there is no need to remove it. once it is soldered the advantage (which doesnt matter now) is that the drive doesnt have to be opened again if you have a cable with the wire on the power cable going to the tx pin. so for some it is an advantage but you do not have to remove the wire. it is easy for some to just bridge it. for anyone not handy with a soldering iron use a spear or homemade version.
From what i am reading on the forums, once you have the key you will not need to reopen the DVDrom anyway as it will be able to be flashed by the Sata bus so why not try to leave the DVDrom in its original condition
Post by: D-Reapper on December 14, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
Post by: RepsolAL on December 14, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
you may need to do a little to assemble the spear, but thats it
Post by: D-Reapper on December 14, 2008, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: p51susi on December 15, 2008, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: kipper2k on December 15, 2008, 09:11:00 AM
QUOTE(p51susi @ Dec 15 2008, 04:45 PM)
Will this method of building a spear work for both the CK3 and the Xtractor? and why are there resistors etc on the pictures of the probe, if you not need them here? are they only for the LED?
If you take a look at Xecuter probe it has 2 wires, that would probably be for the LEDs, you do not need any resistors at all to get a successful read.
Post by: mac456 on December 15, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0054.jpg)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0053.jpg)
thanks
This post has been edited by mac456: Dec 15 2008, 07:55 PM
Post by: brandogg on December 15, 2008, 01:58:00 PM
Post by: allenofmn on December 15, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 15 2008, 01:27 PM) 
Hi, i have made a very basic spear in preperation for when my ck3 pro arrives.
can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0054.jpg)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0053.jpg)
thanks
Where can I buy one?
$20?
$30?
NO!!! It's just $99!!
Post by: ashegam on December 15, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
Just use a freaking flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two. and extract with usual software.
If you don't have a freaking screw driver at home, then you need to be shot.
Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?
stop wasting time making gay spears
Post by: SlayerQC on December 15, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 15 2008, 09:31 PM)
why is everyone freaking out about these spears and stuff?
Just use flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two. and extract with usual software.
Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?
NOW, if your post looked like this modified version of your post I just made instead of the garbage you added to yours, maybe someone who likes to do stuff half-@ss would actually do it too?
(now let's see if he can reply without the kid attitude, I bet not.)
Post by: ashegam on December 15, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
QUOTE(SlayerQC @ Dec 15 2008, 10:40 PM)
NOW, if your post looked like this modified version of your post I just made instead of the garbage you added to yours, maybe someone who likes to do stuff half-@ss would actually do it too?
If you call using a simple screwdriver half ass then WTH do you call a guy who puts a pin through a red wire. Or someone who splices wire 11 to a needle and wraps it with scotch tape?
Only thing half ass here is your IQ.
see I can EDIT too:
Dude you're messing with the wrong guy.
Nice attempt at editing your post at 10:50PM and adding "(now let's see if he can reply without the kid attitude, I bet not.)" when I had already posted a reply at 10:45PM.
I think you just proved your IQ really is half ass
Post by: mac456 on December 16, 2008, 01:56:00 AM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 15 2008, 11:34 PM)
The safety pin just needs to be touching the actual wire inside, if it is, you're golden. A better method would be to strip about 1/2 of insulation off, and wrap the wire around the pin, then drop a dab of solder and/or some *very* tight electrical tape
thanks for the reply, ill give that ago instead.
is there a easy way to test to see if i have made a connection? the needle went straight through the middle of the wire.
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 06:31 AM)
why is everyone freaking out about these spears and stuff?
Just use a freaking flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two. and extract with usual software.
If you don't have a freaking screw driver at home, then you need to be shot.
Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?
stop wasting time making gay spears
didnt relise you could do that
if you slipped though, you could short something out?cheers
Post by: ashegam on December 16, 2008, 12:24:00 PM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 16 2008, 03:32 AM)
didnt relise you could do that
if you slipped though, you could short something out?connecting those two points for 5 seconds is alot less riskier then fooling around with spears and soldering and stuff. so no there is no danger. Just don't bit the crap out of your xbox with the screw driver and you'll be fine.
Post by: kipper2k on December 16, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 09:00 PM)
connecting those two points for 5 seconds is alot less riskier then fooling around with spears and soldering and stuff. so no there is no danger. Just don't bit the crap out of your xbox with the screw driver and you'll be fine.
Sorry to say, but putting a pin in a via hole is a lot damn safer than messing around with a screwdriver...
- open up dos window, type dvdkey32
- make sure power is off to ck3
- insert pin into the via hole (nice and simple...
- turn on ck3
- press enter
how simpler and safer do you want?
Post by: ashegam on December 16, 2008, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 16 2008, 02:47 PM)
Sorry to say, but putting a pin in a via hole is a lot damn safer than messing around with a screwdriver...
- open up dos window, type dvdkey32
- make sure power is off to ck3
- insert pin into the via hole (nice and simple...
- turn on ck3
- press enter
how simpler and safer do you want?
no need to be sorry, you're entitled to your opinion and what's easy for me might not be easy for someone else and vice versa. For me spending $15.00 on a spear, or making a ghetto spear and splicing wires together, or buying a soldering tool and soldering my xbox is not easier then holding a screw driver for 3 seconds.
I don't know about you, but if you gave a beggar on the street a screw driver and said "here hold this on these two points for 2 seconds" or " hey go make a spear and insert it in this whole" I think we both know which one would have a higher rate of success (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: kipper2k on December 16, 2008, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 10:57 PM)
no need to be sorry, you're entitled to your opinion and what's easy for me might not be easy for someone else and vice versa. For me spending $15.00 on a spear, or making a ghetto spear and splicing wires together, or buying a soldering tool and soldering my xbox is not easier then holding a screw driver for 3 seconds.
I don't know about you, but if you gave a beggar on the street a screw driver and said "here hold this on these two points for 2 seconds" or " hey go make a spear and insert it in this whole" I think we both know which one would have a higher rate of success
If the Begger has the "DT's" then it could be an issue, its not just for 2 seconds, it normally takes about 17 seconds to get a read so if you have a steady hand then fine. but for the average person i reckon holding a pin in a hole and getting a good connection is better than having a possible intermittent connection with a screwdriver.
To each their own
Post by: hubevolution on December 17, 2008, 07:35:00 AM
Simply get the key 2 or 3 times to be sure that is a stable value and you will not have any problem.
Post by: mac456 on December 17, 2008, 10:00:00 AM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 15 2008, 09:27 PM)
Hi, i have made a very basic spear in preperation for when my ck3 pro arrives.
can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)
thanks
just to let everyone know, my ghetto spear works :-) (tested it with a battery and bulb).
just waiting on my ck3 now and can start this weekend.
Post by: ashegam on December 17, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 17 2008, 11:36 AM)
just to let everyone know, my ghetto spear works :-) (tested it with a battery and bulb).
just waiting on my ck3 now and can start this weekend.
lol, nice.
by the way, I wasn't knocking your spear earlier on, just making a point to the other dude!
Half of doing these things it's the money savings aspect, the other half is the fun in doing it.
So ghetto or not, if it works and you had fun then that's all it matters
Post by: mac456 on December 17, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
thanks for the info as well, still may use your method if i can find a screw driver small enough.
cheers
Post by: dikx on December 17, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
Regards
Post by: ashegam on December 17, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
QUOTE(dikx @ Dec 17 2008, 07:34 PM)
Hello guys, I just would like to show my own homemade "probe" .
nice. What kind of casing is that? it's a simple pin in it, right?
Post by: kipper2k on December 17, 2008, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(dikx @ Dec 18 2008, 02:34 AM)
Hello guys, I just would like to show my own homemade "probe" .
Regards
looks like it'll do the job, put some insulation tape over the exposed wires.
Post by: mac456 on December 18, 2008, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: dpbmt on December 18, 2008, 10:54:00 AM
and yes it is the top left one (if you lookin at it plugged into the ck)
Post by: mac456 on December 18, 2008, 11:11:00 AM
Post by: dikx on December 18, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 18 2008, 04:15 AM)
nice. What kind of casing is that? it's a simple pin in it, right?
It's from a color pen
, like a marker.@kipper2k
Yes, it do the job, and very well
. Anyway, I justed put insulated tape over it, thanks for remember me about that little aspect.Regards
Post by: ashegam on December 18, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 17 2008, 12:44 PM)
lol, no offence taken at all mate, actually laughed out loud when I read "ghetto spear"
thanks for the info as well, still may use your method if i can find a screw driver small enough.
cheers
By the way....How much do you charge for one of these spears incase my screw driver method doesn't work?
Post by: ZakMcRofl on December 23, 2008, 04:38:00 PM
You can even do this "solderless" if you want but I went for extra "security" and soldered it. However I only connected it to the removed pin from the drive-side connector because I'll have to return my CK3 unmodified.
Post by: barzi on December 24, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
And do you have to connecte the "probe" pin to wire 11 of the power cable? Which is wire 11?
Post by: kipper2k on December 24, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE(barzi @ Dec 24 2008, 08:16 PM)
Howlong do you need to hold the "probe" in the hole? Till it's completly dumped? Or longer?
And do you have to connecte the "probe" pin to wire 11 of the power cable? Which is wire 11?
Once you see the key appear you can remove the probe.. take a look at my pic on the first post in this thread, it is the top left wire as you look at it
Kipper
Post by: barzi on December 24, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 24 2008, 09:44 PM)
Once you see the key appear you can remove the probe.. take a look at my pic on the first post in this thread, it is the top left wire as you look at it
Kipper
Thanks. So one wire to the upperleft wire? No more wires (I see two wires at the official probe, maybe because of the LED?).
And what is the theory behind the probe? I know that the wire from the powercable is the GROUND wire, so the place where you put the pin must be something else.. But what? Whats under that hole?
Post by: kipper2k on December 24, 2008, 07:53:00 PM
QUOTE(barzi @ Dec 24 2008, 09:49 PM)
Thanks. So one wire to the upperleft wire? No more wires (I see two wires at the official probe, maybe because of the LED?).
And what is the theory behind the probe? I know that the wire from the powercable is the GROUND wire, so the place where you put the pin must be something else.. But what? Whats under that hole?
The second wire on the official probe is for the LED, all we are doing with the spear is just completing the circuit so we can read the key, the second wire is not needed
Post by: barzi on December 25, 2008, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 15 2008, 08:27 PM)
Hi, i have made a very basic spear in preperation for when my ck3 pro arrives.
can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)
thanks
Isn't it dangerous to touch the actual metal when you are obtaining the drive key? There is no elektricity on that pin?
Post by: vi3taznprid3 on December 25, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
Post by: 360GamesBackup on December 26, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 15 2008, 11:31 PM)
Just use a freaking flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two. and extract with usual software.
Are they the only things you need to connect with the Flat head Screwdriver? I see some pics with solder all over the place.
Thanks
Post by: snmp on December 26, 2008, 03:02:00 AM
NO NEED TO SOLDER. DONT, that was the way keys were dumped two months ago
first off the solderpads that need to be soldered are uber small, not for the average BLUNT soldering iron that the average joe blow owns somewhere in his garage, along with the lead solder thats so thick it could be used for welding.
ive repaired three boxes already because of noobs attempting to solder.....
metal touching is kind of the point here, how do you expect the data is transferred telepathy?
basically what he built above will work but its kinda ghetto
another thing connectivity kits are a waste of your money
power = 360
eject = 360
but, you are welcome to do what you want, click the link in my signature to see how easily it can be done without a connectivity kit.
Post by: xboxdawg on December 30, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
QUOTE(snmp @ Dec 26 2008, 11:38 AM)
rofl,
NO NEED TO SOLDER. DONT, that was the way keys were dumped two months ago
first off the solderpads that need to be soldered are uber small, not for the average BLUNT soldering iron that the average joe blow owns somewhere in his garage, along with the lead solder thats so thick it could be used for welding.
ive repaired three boxes already because of noobs attempting to solder.....
metal touching is kind of the point here, how do you expect the data is transferred telepathy?
basically what he built above will work but its kinda ghetto
another thing connectivity kits are a waste of your money
power = 360
eject = 360
but, you are welcome to do what you want, click the link in my signature to see how easily it can be done without a connectivity kit.
Post by: FlipmodeBG on December 30, 2008, 03:18:00 PM
and if i don't wanna use a spear, do i have to wire the flathead screwdriver to my cK3 or just touch the r707 points without any wires whatsoever ??
Post by: darkingthereturn on December 30, 2008, 05:58:00 PM
Post by: darkingthereturn on December 30, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: SlayerQC on January 01, 2009, 06:17:00 PM
Can I use a 26 gauge wire while the #11 wire is only 22 gauge?
The reason I'm asking is that I have an already made spear -it's a probe from a non-functional multimeter- and the wire gauge is 26, not 22.
Would that be ok to use?
Post by: SlayerQC on January 01, 2009, 08:06:00 PM
Anyways, I meant to say that the probe wire is 22awg and ck3 kit is 26awg. not 26 and 22, sorry.
Post by: TheGlow on January 03, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
I just have a mess of old ps2 guitar hero controller wires and ethernet cable I use for splicing.
Cant I just splice in some ethernet cable and just hold the wire into the hole in the event I dont find some paperclips or anything?
Post by: TheGlow on January 03, 2009, 02:06:00 PM
QUOTE(TheGlow @ Jan 3 2009, 12:43 PM)
I dont even have any paperclips around here.
I just have a mess of old ps2 guitar hero controller wires and ethernet cable I use for splicing.
Cant I just splice in some ethernet cable and just hold the wire into the hole in the event I dont find some paperclips or anything?
Yup, worked no prob. Took one of the smallest pieces of the wire on the ethernet cable and just poked it through the hole and made sure it touched the sides.
2 dumps, same key. alls good.
Had some trouble erasing the flash. ck3 lite refused to eject and my via card acts up, so I did the dos approach, erased and flashed in less than a minute.
Post by: barzi on January 05, 2009, 01:59:00 PM
QUOTE(TheGlow @ Jan 3 2009, 10:42 PM)
Yup, worked no prob. Took one of the smallest pieces of the wire on the ethernet cable and just poked it through the hole and made sure it touched the sides.
2 dumps, same key. alls good.
Had some trouble erasing the flash. ck3 lite refused to eject and my via card acts up, so I did the dos approach, erased and flashed in less than a minute.
Does the pin that goes into the hole has to touch something on the otherside? Or does it have to touch the sides of the hole?
Post by: Exobex on January 07, 2009, 04:32:00 AM
QUOTE(JeeBoy @ Dec 12 2008, 06:11 PM)
why use all these probes??
Can one not just solder the points??
Whats the diffrence?
Please answer.
It's quicker. In the time it would take to grab a soldering iron, put it in its stand, switch it on and wait for it to warm up, a probe user would've read the key, created the firmware, flashed the drive and would be putting the screws back in.
Even if you're forever flashing and reflashing your drive, trying the latest firmware, etc. you only need to read the firmware the very first time. The jumper's not needed for reflashing.
Post by: barzi on January 07, 2009, 04:05:00 PM
QUOTE(barzi @ Jan 5 2009, 10:35 PM)
Does the pin that goes into the hole has to touch something on the otherside? Or does it have to touch the sides of the hole?
Please?
Post by: mac456 on January 13, 2009, 03:21:00 AM
QUOTE(barzi @ Dec 25 2008, 03:24 PM)
Isn't it dangerous to touch the actual metal when you are obtaining the drive key? There is no elektricity on that pin?
no idea, but i taped over it anyway before use
Post by: zweef_jr on January 13, 2009, 09:16:00 AM
QUOTE(zweef_jr @ Jan 13 2009, 11:48 AM)
i'f read the thread but i couldn't get my question confirmd, can i allso use a spear like the guy's shown here for the maximus xtractor?
thanks,
bump
Post by: Trizzoid30 on January 13, 2009, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(zweef_jr @ Jan 13 2009, 02:48 AM)
i'f read the thread but i couldn't get my question confirmd, can i allso use a spear like the guy's shown here for the maximus xtractor?
thanks,
To answer your question, yes, you can do this method with the Xtractor as well. I've got the Xtractor, never did a flash before in my life, and have now done 3 with this home made spear method by splicing wire #11 like in the tut and routing it to a safety pin which I soldered to some wire, I just made sure to wrap up the part of the safety pin that I was going to "hold" with electrical tape and it works perfect.
Post by: zweef_jr on January 13, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
Post by: Teun. on January 13, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Ive been reading through a bunch of topics before attempting to flash my liteon
Now, in a couple of topics I saw a homemade spear. And they were all connected with the dvd cable to the ck3 (or extractor)
is it needed to connect your spear to your ck3? Or can I just brigde the two point with holding a needle on them without connecting anything?
Post by: barzi on January 19, 2009, 06:57:00 AM
Thank you!This is much faster then bridge the TX with a screwdriver..
Post by: niabi on February 08, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
I am posting an image
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my question is, when I check continuity on the pad, ONLY with the spear I see that any of the 4 holes (707, 708, 709 and 710) they all have continuity to the yellow circle, is this how its suppose to do it? but when i check them without the spear then they 708 has continuity to the red circle and 707 to the yellow, the other 2 don't.
is this how its supposed to work?
the drive works perfectly on the Xbox for originals.
Post by: kuranuk on February 10, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
Plus, rather than sacrificing a multimeter probe, I just used a tube from a can of compressed air and a sewing needle for the probe! Ran a wire through the tube, soldered to the needle, and put a dab of hot glue at both ends to hold it in place.
Post by: pogi1100 on February 10, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 12 2008, 10:29 AM)
Why would you want to solder the 2 points and then have to remove them again afterwards when you can just press a probe onto the via hole to get a read. It is non destructive and also reduces the risk of causing damage to the board
kipper
You do not need to remove them again afterwards but you can if you want to do it for fun...
You're right it is better because it does reduce the risk of harming the board.
For people who still need to dump their Liteon key then just buy the CK3 Lite w/o the probe (to save 15 bucks) and do the mod described in this thread and it will work.
Post by: shadowth on February 26, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
And, I've got a small question for you guys. Does the wire that you need to strip and add the DIY probe needs to be connected to the 360 drive? Because instead of doing the Y thing with the probe and wire, I was thinking about just pulling off plug which goes in the drive, add the probie and voilá, it'd be easier, I guess. Or does the 360 send something else thru that wire besides the key?
Excellent topic, I laughed a lot.
I'm just waiting for my CK Lite to arrive so I can dump my key!
Thanks!
Post by: zainday on March 05, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Something like this...
http://www.radioshac...oductId=2062236
Post by: zainday on March 07, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
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Post by: paul543 on March 07, 2009, 02:05:00 AM
Why does the Spear need to be connected to the device in order to work? I disconnected my spear and pushed it in and I wouldn't get any key read. Does the data actually go through the spear? I thought it just bridged the connections and the cable connector was just there for the LED (in other words redundant).
What am I missing?
Thank You
Post by: zainday on March 07, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
I think that it's connected to the power cable so the probe has current running through it.
When you contact it to the board , it powers up enough to send the data through the sata cable (or whatever connection your using)
I think the led is to let the user know that the connection and power are intact and stable.
Post by: leemoo on March 08, 2009, 10:23:00 AM
QUOTE(zainday @ Mar 7 2009, 05:05 PM)
I might be wrong and someone can clearify, if so.....
I think that it's connected to the power cable so the probe has current running through it.
When you contact it to the board , it powers up enough to send the data through the sata cable (or whatever connection your using)
I think the led is to let the user know that the connection and power are intact and stable.
If that was the case could we not just use a multimeter because there is power running through that?!
Post by: chazmann on March 08, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
QUOTE(leemoo @ Mar 8 2009, 05:59 PM)
If that was the case could we not just use a multimeter because there is power running through that?!
All the "spear" is doing is BRIDGING two connections allowing the key to become available to the computer.
Post by: paul543 on March 11, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
QUOTE(chazmann @ Mar 8 2009, 11:35 PM)
All the "spear" is doing is BRIDGING two connections allowing the key to become available to the computer.
so why won't it work then when the spear is not connected, but just pushed in?
Post by: mac456 on March 12, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
Post by: pion on March 14, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
needle thru a pencil.
Post by: shadowth on March 16, 2009, 08:18:00 PM
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This post has been edited by shadowth: Mar 17 2009, 03:21 AM
Post by: tequiller on June 02, 2009, 04:43:00 AM
Thanks for the tips everyone.