Post by: Reaper527 on December 01, 2008, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE
[00:14] <c4eva> 1.5 - open tray power on support for windows inquiry/fw unlock mode
[00:14] <c4eva> 1.5 - enhanced "bad angle" support
[00:15] <c4eva> 1.5 - single speed only (12x)
[00:15] <c4eva> 1.5 - enhanced SS support for spoofing
[00:16] <c4eva> 1.5 - more secure firmguard - benq only
[00:18] <c4eva> 1.5 - Benq 6039 (1319L) version!
[00:20] <c4eva> 1.5 for liteon will come soon, work on fw continues by the team!
[00:22] <c4eva> liteon fw is complicated, but im optimistic the team will solve it soon!
2008-11-30 (in #fw):
[03:42] <c4eva> flashing liteon is easy, all software,all this has already been done!
[03:43] <c4eva> the team is working on the fw, patience!
[03:47] <c4eva> The team has several liteon dumps and flash back to any liteon perfectly! Patience!
***********************************************************************************************************************************************
NO! THERE IS NO SPECIFIED OR ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE FOR iXtreme v1.5 OR FOR THE LITEON FW! SO DON'T BOTHER ASKING! IT'LL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE
***********************************************************************************************************************************************
from what i have heard, the "all software flashing" doesn't include key retrieval yet. this is still great news though. great work everyone
a warning for everyone:
"whats the eta" == 7 day mute
*************** UPDATE BY SOSO - DEC 7th 2008 *******************************************
Again on this Liteon subject, threads ( Lite-on, Model:DG-16D2S FW:74850C ) are closed on all major sites because of the lack of respect for the posting rules
QUOTE
Plse read the rules ,
and the following pinned thread:No More Non Technical Posts, Lost your Post...Read This
Finally "No Request for ETA" or this thread will be closed as well
Do not expect a nice PM, everyone breaking rules get a minimum 7 days posting suspension
and the following pinned thread:No More Non Technical Posts, Lost your Post...Read This
Finally "No Request for ETA" or this thread will be closed as well
Do not expect a nice PM, everyone breaking rules get a minimum 7 days posting suspension
As this seems to happen more, we decided to hard moderate with sanctions authors of useless repetitive post and/or off topic post.
Anything that does not respect the intented purpose of the thread ( and in the context of the technical forum) will be removed.
Note: If you want to have a non technical discussion on this, plse find/start the appropriate thread in Xbox360 General, that said all technical post, discussion on how features, ... are all welcomed
.**************END OF UPDATE********************************************************
Post by: Ranger72 on December 01, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
Post by: oxide32 on December 01, 2008, 12:18:00 PM
Post by: b1g on December 01, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
I don't like the parts about enhanced FirmGuard and better Bad Angle support, makes it seem like our current FW is unsafe
Not to worry though, I have money ready for a new 360 in case mine gets banned
Post by: mcraenz on December 01, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
This post has been edited by mcraenz: Dec 1 2008, 08:28 PM
Post by: 360NI on December 01, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
Looking forward to getting it.
Post by: Ranger72 on December 01, 2008, 12:12:00 PM
QUOTE(oxide32 @ Dec 1 2008, 08:18 PM) 
was wondering how well these new liteon drives will perform compared to what we all use at the moment, sammys and hitachi's etc. will be great to use one of those liteon drives that i ended up with a bunch of.
I would expect it to perform much like the BenQ since they are closely related hardware wise.
Post by: Vauxfan on December 01, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
Probably will sell mine when news is announced
Post by: eddy56 on December 01, 2008, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: nickfarinha on December 02, 2008, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: carniver on December 02, 2008, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: Ramnath2k on December 02, 2008, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: celinelust on December 03, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
Hopefully I will be able to finally flash my lite-on drive using the ICH8 intel sata chipset.
Post by: Reaper527 on December 03, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
QUOTE(celinelust @ Dec 3 2008, 10:56 AM)
Why did people stop commenting? this piece of news is worth more than 1,000,000 posts
Hopefully I will be able to finally flash my lite-on drive using the ICH8 intel sata chipset.
one can hope, but i have my doubts.
no one else has commented on it, but my personal predictions are that with this drive being so similar to the benq, any chipset that can flash a benq will be able to flash this, and any drive that can't, won't be able to.
granted, when i say this, i do mean easily. i seem to remember it being possible to flash benq's with the ich8 chipset, but it was more work than simply doing all software solutions.
Post by: linnx88 on December 03, 2008, 10:26:00 AM
This post has been edited by linnx88: Dec 3 2008, 06:46 PM
Post by: xbox360sexual on December 03, 2008, 10:33:00 AM
Post by: O_oTheGameo_O on December 03, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
BENQ has HORRIBLE read speeds on burned media.
GTA4 textures load 5mins later on BENQ lol.
Lite-on is same as BENQ
Post by: elmondoescobar on December 03, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: Arakon on December 03, 2008, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(linnx88 @ Dec 3 2008, 06:26 PM)
This is awesome, my 4th 360 burned out a few months ago (video just disappeared, no rrod) and i went to buy a new one simply to be cursing at the screen when I found out its unflashable. The only good thing about the new Jasper is the 65nm chip, it runs MUCH cooler and for anyone who hasn't noticed, the power supply brick is a pound lighter since now it's only 175W compared to original 220W...[now hopefully the LiteOn gets flashed, as I've heard it's a more reliable drive]. So it even saves you on your electricity bill. The cooling solution now finally looks like it does on a normal CPU, and I did get the HDMI for the first time [had all Xenons before] (gave me reason to visit monoprice, their cables are insane, 4-5$ for 10ft HDMI).
if you got a 175W PSU, you got a falcon. Jasper uses a 150W PSU.
Post by: Haruspex on December 03, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
QUOTE(O_oTheGameo_O @ Dec 3 2008, 07:42 PM)
would still prefer samsung drives
BENQ has HORRIBLE read speeds on burned media.
GTA4 textures load 5mins later on BENQ lol.
Lite-on is same as BENQ
Fortunately we can install games to the HDD now.
I am stuck to the Lite-on for quite some time now, i don't mind waiting for a little more. I only wish that you can install the fw (when it's released) without soldering.
Post by: phistyle on December 03, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(elmondoescobar @ Dec 3 2008, 12:31 PM)
does read speeds matter as much now that we can install on to the hdd??
well it kind of matters since the majority of people only have a 20gb hard drive...so for now I can only choose to install one game at a time which is kind of annoying until I can get a 120gb hard drive. The thing is that most of the drives seem pretty loud to me...only thing I really hear is the xbox 360 fan blowing like there's no tomorrow when I play a game...
Post by: swg1251 on December 03, 2008, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(phistyle @ Dec 3 2008, 05:59 PM) 
well it kind of matters since the majority of people only have a 20gb hard drive...so for now I can only choose to install one game at a time which is kind of annoying until I can get a 120gb hard drive. The thing is that most of the drives seem pretty loud to me...only thing I really hear is the xbox 360 fan blowing like there's no tomorrow when I play a game...
Exactly why i don't install games.... bought a "20GB" hard drive, only 13.1 G of space total. I have tons of Rock Band downloads, so no space....
Anyways this is very exciting to see that the LiteOn is being figured out! Also 1.5 soon (hopefully)!! Sweet
Post by: recaihazer on December 04, 2008, 01:50:00 AM
Thanks team
Post by: Walk94 on December 04, 2008, 11:29:00 AM
YEAH!
Post by: axoloterec on December 04, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
somebody knows something liteon 18d2s???
thks from uruguay
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Dec 1 2008, 07:40 PM)
http://pastebin.com/m56ac726e
from what i have heard, the "all software flashing" doesn't include key retrieval yet. this is still great news though. great work everyone
a warning for everyone:
"whats the eta" == 7 day mute
Post by: Lush on December 04, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
<+c4eva> LITEON BOOTING BACKUPS! Great work by the team!
DO NOT ask for ETA...
Post by: brandogg on December 04, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
Post by: fuckdead on December 04, 2008, 03:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Lush @ Dec 4 2008, 08:02 PM)
2008-12-04
<+c4eva> LITEON BOOTING BACKUPS! Great work by the team!
DO NOT ask for ETA...
oh yess!!!!!
I love you c4eva and all team
This post has been edited by fuckdead: Dec 4 2008, 11:39 PM
Post by: Haruspex on December 04, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
It would be the best XMAS gift for years
Post by: adilsniper on December 04, 2008, 03:16:00 PM
(eids on monday the 8th for most people)
Post by: celinelust on December 04, 2008, 04:04:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 5 2008, 12:09 AM)
So I guess that means we'll still have to get the key by using a serial adapter, etc, but then flashing can still be done via SATA alone, since supposedly the f/w chip is flashable, but "not" readable...or so someone said a while back.
I think, but don't know for sure, that what they meant by the hardware part is the "soldering two connections" part, not the retrieval of the keys using the serial connection. So hopefully we won't to construct that cable anymore.
Post by: Reaper527 on December 04, 2008, 03:46:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 4 2008, 03:09 PM)
So I guess that means we'll still have to get the key by using a serial adapter, etc, but then flashing can still be done via SATA alone, since supposedly the f/w chip is flashable, but "not" readable...or so someone said a while back.
as far as i know, that is true at the current time. the chip can be erased and flashed via sata, but the current key retrieval methods are still needed.
Post by: signum on December 04, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
A few things concern me about the new v1.5 iXtreme though.
I noticed c4eva stated that it will be single 12x speed only? Is this because it's detectable? or simply because of the ability to install on HDD?
If the later, then what about the Acrade owners without a HDD? If it is a security issue then it's ok.
Will there be any extra features for BenQ drives included such as improved reading? I guess it doesn't matter since there is now installs.
Is the Lite-On drive any better at reading backups when compared to the BenQ? I know they are close to the same drive with just a different chipset but maybe c4eva tweaked the firmware better than he did for the BenQ.
Post by: Chickan on December 04, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
I hope this comes out soon, would be nice to avoid buying another dvd drive
Post by: mcraenz on December 04, 2008, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: Ranger72 on December 04, 2008, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(mcraenz @ Dec 5 2008, 03:25 AM)
OT but, just wondering, are they replacing drives with liteon as a matter of course or did the xbox go away with a drive fault? I'm in the same situation, just got my first xbox and it of course has a liteon I was just about to order a replacement but looks like I'll wait now.
I think they replace every console that goes in for repair with a Liteon drive even if there is nothing wrong with the drive.
Post by: stevenalvarado on December 04, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
those guys and girls in the team are geniuses.
Post by: Boddah on December 04, 2008, 08:18:00 PM
Post by: brandogg on December 04, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Post by: Walk94 on December 04, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Dec 5 2008, 12:22 AM)
as far as i know, that is true at the current time. the chip can be erased and flashed via sata, but the current key retrieval methods are still needed.
i hope that c4eva figure out new ways to get the key from the drive, now they have done the fw and have time now.
Post by: signum on December 05, 2008, 01:40:00 AM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 5 2008, 06:43 AM)
Paraphrasing c4eva from the chat - 12x "limitation" is due to HDD installation, which makes 8x and 5x builds obsolete (and would probably save some coding time as well).
What about people with no HDD at all and just have the memory unit? 8x was a great speed as it had the balance of speed and quietness. 12x is great for installs i agree.
Great work by the team.
Post by: dangerpaki on December 05, 2008, 04:20:00 AM
QUOTE(adilsniper @ Dec 4 2008, 11:52 PM)
It would make an even better eid present!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (eids on monday the 8th for most people)
eid mubarak to you already bro.
instead of the sheep it wil be the xbox360 getting slaughtered lol
as far as i know. the software part they are working now on is probably the part for flashing and retrieving keys. what i heard at the channel was that when it's fully done the process will be the same as with other drives. meaning key extraction through software and no soldering or other parts required.
Post by: dazv6 on December 05, 2008, 04:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Dec 5 2008, 02:31 AM)
I think they replace every console that goes in for repair with a Liteon drive even if there is nothing wrong with the drive.
Not quite m8, just got one back from repair (Germany) a few days ago and it had a brand new hitachi 47 in it with a new motherboard....
Post by: gizmodesigns on December 05, 2008, 05:40:00 AM
All thanks to c4eva and his team, great job!
Have only one question, should I update to new NXE do the flashing or other way around?
I do not want to get banned.
Any comments?
Thx
Post by: Kijoki on December 05, 2008, 07:45:00 AM
I think MS are REALLY pissed now.
Post by: celinelust on February 03, 2020, 08:43:00 AM
I want to play a lil bit with it till Xmas
Post by: mamaki on December 05, 2008, 08:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Kijoki @ Dec 5 2008, 05:21 PM)
Wow finally!
I think MS are REALLY pissed now.
I really don't think so. It will only boost the console sales...
Post by: LikeyLicky on December 05, 2008, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: wouter33 on December 05, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Ofcouse a lite-on drive pfff....hope c4eva will fix this baby soon. In the meantime i'll have to tell my son it is still in repair
Or otherwise he'll whine for the xbox360 untill i am dead
Post by: allenofmn on December 05, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
QUOTE(dazv6 @ Dec 5 2008, 06:28 AM)
Not quite m8, just got one back from repair (Germany) a few days ago and it had a brand new hitachi 47 in it with a new motherboard....
Had a friend send in a RROD box with a hitachi, came back with a liteon. Maybe aren't swapping drives in germany yet, but they are certainly doing it here in the states.
Post by: matt_cooper_1987 on December 05, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
oh well i was hopeful for at least ten mins!
this seems to be good news have to make the decision to get a new drive or see what comes of this thread...
Post by: gizmodesigns on December 05, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
but does anybody have any idea about the NXE and the NXE.
What should be done first
1.) update
2.) flashing
or
1.) flashing
2.) update
(talking about lite-on s)
Thx
Post by: allenofmn on December 05, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
QUOTE(gizmodesigns @ Dec 5 2008, 01:58 PM)
All is good,
but does anybody have any idea about the NXE and the NXE.
What should be done first
1.) update
2.) flashing
or
1.) flashing
2.) update
(talking about lite-on s)
Thx
This question is not really appropriate for this thread, as this is a discussion about firmware release not flashing.
Regardless.... Flashing before or after NXE shouldn't make any difference. Many of the people on the most recent ban cycle were banned before NXE even came out.
Post by: JeeBoy on December 05, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
<+c4eva> key will still be via serial for now!
<+c4eva> the liteon has been a massive team effort , which without everyone involved would not be in this position! AMAZING STUFF!
This post has been edited by JeeBoy: Dec 5 2008, 11:21 PM
Post by: Neptune on December 05, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
QUOTE(linnx88 @ Dec 3 2008, 12:26 PM)
This is awesome, my 4th 360 burned out a few months ago (video just disappeared, no rrod) and i went to buy a new one simply to be cursing at the screen when I found out its unflashable. The only good thing about the new Jasper is the 65nm chip, it runs MUCH cooler and for anyone who hasn't noticed, the power supply brick is a pound lighter since now it's only 175W compared to original 220W...[now hopefully the LiteOn gets flashed, as I've heard it's a more reliable drive]. So it even saves you on your electricity bill. The cooling solution now finally looks like it does on a normal CPU, and I did get the HDMI for the first time [had all Xenons before] (gave me reason to visit monoprice, their cables are insane, 4-5$ for 10ft HDMI).
Wrong.
If you have a 175Watt it's not Jasper.... 150watt is Jasper. Sorry to say bud.
Post by: MorningGlory99191 on February 02, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: swg1251 on December 05, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
http://pastebin.com/m4cedfb00
Post by: calloused labia on December 05, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(gizmodesigns @ Dec 5 2008, 02:58 PM)
All is good,
but does anybody have any idea about the NXE and the NXE.
What should be done first
1.) update
2.) flashing
or
1.) flashing
2.) update
(talking about lite-on s)
Thx
but does anybody have any idea about the NXE and the NXE.
What should be done first
1.) update
2.) flashing
or
1.) flashing
2.) update
(talking about lite-on s)
Thx
Since there are reports of the NXE bricking some consoles (modded or not) I would installed the NXE before opening that case. That way if the NXE bricks your system you can return it without any issues and you didn't waste time flashing it.
Post by: V.I.P on February 02, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Dec 6 2008, 03:56 AM)
2008-12-05
(15:36:51) (+c4eva) onge:no, too busy for that, liteon beta testing this weekend!
(15:39:00) (+c4eva) key will still be via serial for now!
[04:30] <Rinoa> c4eva: u ony going to rlz single speed 12x from now on to Samsung/Hitachi/BenQ/Lite-On drives?
[04:30] <Rinoa> sounds like MS could tell the speed
[04:30] <c4eva> Rinoa:Yes
[04:32] <c4eva> at present the serial is still needed to get the key, everything else is software/sata
[04:35] <prankster> c4eva, do you ever see a non-solder solution for key extraction, or is key always sent over tx?
[04:36] <RoCk-BoX> hey man , i just had a question, is running ixtreme 1.4 as safe as its gunna get on live?
[04:36] <c4eva> 1.5 is better
[04:40] <dffdfd> is the lite-on beta testing this weekend for select members or the general public?
A: it's for a closed group of beta testers initially
[04:44] <c4eva> all flashing for liteon can be done in windows
[04:51] <c4eva> nxe is fine
[05:09] <Suuuuuup2> c4eva, how was the firmware originally dumped?
[05:09] <c4eva> it was decapped in acid!
[05:10] <Suuuuuup2> C4eva, kinda pointless asking, but will the new GUI replace Toolbox ?
[05:11] <c4eva> suuuuup2:yes
[05:12] <c4eva> patching liteon with 1.5 as i speak here
[05:12] <Savior-X> so its been stated ck3 is still needed. anywhere besides divineo ?
[05:13] <Arakon> Savior-X: no, it's not needed. you can just make your own serial adapter for a few bucks, or get the maximus tool
[05:13] <c4eva> xtractor works well
[05:14] <Arakon> xboxhacker.net has several diagrams in the large thread, or get a premade one from ebay (serial ttl converter)
[05:15] <Suuuuuup2> c4eva, is the lite-on firmware similar to Benq?
[05:16] <c4eva> no
[05:39] <p0tty> n e one try the spear yet for the liteon?
[05:39] <c4eva> p0tty:yes works well
Post by: eddy56 on December 06, 2008, 03:09:00 AM
[05:48] <Zheez> do you need to power the liteon drives on and off like you used to have to with samsung/benqs?
[05:48] <c4eva> zheez:no
[05:49] <troubloso> so c4eva 1.5 will have new way to flash?
[05:49] <c4eva> troub:yes
[05:26] <liqwidsky> c4eva, what does the improved bad angle support in 1.5 do?
[05:30] <c4eva> it will ensure no more bad angle before jitter
[05:34] <liqwidsky> [...] is 1.5 doing something extra, like decrypting the host ccrt and checking deviation?
[05:38] <c4eva> yes within deviation will not allow bad angles
Post by: MickRick on December 06, 2008, 04:24:00 AM
Post by: RowanF1 on February 03, 2020, 08:36:00 AM
Post by: kirtar11 on February 03, 2020, 11:33:00 AM
It looks like you still have to solder or buy an xtractor tool to flash Lite-on
Post by: eavaria on December 06, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(kirtar11 @ Dec 6 2008, 07:33 PM)
I don't understand
It looks like you still have to solder or buy an xtractor tool to flash Lite-on
As i see it, you wont need to mess with the key to flash it. The key is stored elsewhere and the extraction is needed to spood another drive that has it on the firmware... since you will be using the same drive, no key spoofing needed
Post by: caster420 on December 06, 2008, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(eavaria @ Dec 6 2008, 04:02 PM)
As i see it, you wont need to mess with the key to flash it. The key is stored elsewhere and the extraction is needed to spood another drive that has it on the firmware... since you will be using the same drive, no key spoofing needed
No, you couldnt be more wrong. The key is contained within the firmware. You will need to dump the key using the currently available method, patch your key into the firmware when available, then flash it to the drive. If you dont obtain the key first, you sytem will never boot any games again.
Caster.
Post by: HTGamingPC on December 06, 2008, 03:08:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Dec 6 2008, 03:28 PM)
No, you couldnt be more wrong. The key is contained within the firmware. You will need to dump the key using the currently available method, patch your key into the firmware when available, then flash it to the drive. If you dont obtain the key first, you sytem will never boot any games again.
Caster.
So the firmware is still essentially unreadable then, except for extracting the key or dipping the chip in acid? When we read through a serial adaptor, are we reading off of the firmware itself or some other location?
Does anyone know if they're going to bother figuring out how to read the key through SATA? I never thought the firmware would be written before it could be read.
Post by: swg1251 on February 03, 2020, 03:56:00 PM
great news!!
Post by: Vauxfan on December 06, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
Good work thou
Post by: caster420 on February 03, 2020, 04:35:00 PM
QUOTE(HTGamingPC @ Dec 6 2008, 06:44 PM)
So the firmware is still essentially unreadable then, except for extracting the key or dipping the chip in acid? When we read through a serial adaptor, are we reading off of the firmware itself or some other location?
Does anyone know if they're going to bother figuring out how to read the key through SATA? I never thought the firmware would be written before it could be read.
The firmware is unreadable and is why you are dumping the key the way you are. The key is reported from the firmware and is a supported function of 360 drives (look at dvdkey, etc..). If there exists in the fw a way to dump via sata, i'm sure c4e will inform us.
Why would you have thought that? Ensure your key is backed up and you'll never have an issue. The firmware will be fully tested before public release, so the key is your only concern...
Caster.
Post by: Krystm on December 06, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
Post by: wonkizzle on February 03, 2020, 06:05:00 PM
Also.. Im not new to flashing, but I dont know a lot about key extraction.. Can someone tell me if I will be needing a tool to do this? Or is there a good chance that theres a software solution to key extraction? Sorry if thats a noob ass question, but Id really like to know.
Post by: f575gtc on December 06, 2008, 07:10:00 PM
also from what I have been reading the lite-on drive wont be able to be flashed via the traditional hook it up to your pc via sata cable anymore? you will need a new adapter?
This post has been edited by f575gtc: Dec 7 2008, 03:15 AM
Post by: HTGamingPC on December 06, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Dec 6 2008, 06:35 PM)
The firmware is unreadable and is why you are dumping the key the way you are. The key is reported from the firmware and is a supported function of 360 drives (look at dvdkey, etc..). If there exists in the fw a way to dump via sata, i'm sure c4e will inform us.
Why would you have thought that? Ensure your key is backed up and you'll never have an issue. The firmware will be fully tested before public release, so the key is your only concern...
Caster.
The earlier threads and the quotes from C4E mentioned that everything would be SATA readable, so I was under the impression that being able to read the firmware once the hard way would somehow be related to us being able to get to it the easy way. Not that it makes much sense but it was a reason to hold off on trying to get my serial number. Guess I'd better get cracking then.
Post by: MorningGlory99191 on December 06, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Post by: Reaper527 on December 06, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
QUOTE(f575gtc @ Dec 6 2008, 09:10 PM)
Will the 1.5 ixtreme fix the horrible graphics pop in on the benq drives or is that a defect on the benq drive itself?
i thought that was a problem with the drive, not with the firmware. people with unmodded systems have reported that issue.
what i'm getting at is that the new firmware probably won't fix that, but the ability to install to the harddrive through nxe should. just install any games that give you trouble like this.
QUOTE(HTGamingPC @ Dec 6 2008, 10:18 PM)
The earlier threads and the quotes from C4E mentioned that everything would be SATA readable, so I was under the impression that being able to read the firmware once the hard way would somehow be related to us being able to get to it the easy way. Not that it makes much sense but it was a reason to hold off on trying to get my serial number. Guess I'd better get cracking then.
nope. gotta use the current methods to extract the key. if we are lucky, c4e & his team will find a way to dump the key through sata in the future after the release of the firmware. if we aren't that lucky, well, at least the drives will be moddable even if it requires some extra work.
Post by: markland556 on December 07, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: swg1251 on December 07, 2008, 09:27:00 PM
QUOTE(soulwarrior @ Dec 7 2008, 10:43 PM)
[05:45] <c4eva> IX1.5 will release tomorrow!!
I'm not sure i believe you
topic still has not changed
Post by: Harry1 on December 07, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
<HSB> Hey c4eva
<HSB> got a minute?
<c4eva> yes
<HSB> is this ture? [05:45] <c4eva> IX1.5 will release tomorrow!!
<HSB> or just some idoit
<HSB> causing bs
<c4eva> not true
Post by: soulwarrior on December 07, 2008, 09:35:00 PM
Look at number 75
Post by: Harry1 on December 07, 2008, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: soulwarrior on December 07, 2008, 09:44:00 PM
No i did not realize anyone can edit it. i was reading this forum and clicked to pastebin, i then click on c4eva and there it was. Got excited, decided to post. Sorry for ruffling everyone's feathers...
Post by: swg1251 on December 07, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
QUOTE(soulwarrior @ Dec 7 2008, 11:20 PM)
"you do realize anyone can edit that right, just adding in your own line at the bottom wont do anything. stilll fake, I asked him myself"
No i did not realize anyone can edit it. i was reading this forum and clicked to pastebin, i then click on c4eva and there it was. Got excited, decided to post. Sorry for ruffling everyone's feathers...
Thats not the link in the topic of #fw, you did do that yourself
no one believes you
Post by: soulwarrior on December 07, 2008, 09:58:00 PM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Dec 8 2008, 12:27 AM)
Thats not the link in the topic of #fw, you did do that yourself
no one believes you
Yes, i wasted my time to post something fake. If that helps you sleep at night believe it if you to. Don't believe me test exactly what i did to get there for yourself.
1. Google this [02:39] <c4eva> ALL SPOOFED LITEONS ARE EASILY DETECTABLE BY MS! EVEN BENQ! WILL NEED IX1.5!
2. Click on the first link in google
3. Look at "view follow ups" and click c4eva
4. Scroll down to number 75
5. Get over yourself once you realize you're wrong sherlock homes.
Post by: swg1251 on December 07, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
QUOTE(soulwarrior @ Dec 7 2008, 11:34 PM)
Yes, i wasted my time to post something fake. If that helps you sleep at night believe it if you to. Don't believe me test exactly what i did to get there for yourself.
1. Google this [02:39] <c4eva> ALL SPOOFED LITEONS ARE EASILY DETECTABLE BY MS! EVEN BENQ! WILL NEED IX1.5!
2. Click on the first link in google
3. Look at "view follow ups" and click c4eva
4. Scroll down to number 75
5. Get over yourself once you realize you're wrong sherlock homes.
You posted a follow-up, and at the bottom where it asks your name, you typed c4eva
So yes, you did waste your time to post something fake.
Post by: soulwarrior on December 07, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Dec 8 2008, 12:37 AM)
You posted a follow-up, and at the bottom where it asks your name, you typed c4eva
So yes, you did waste your time to post something fake.
you are a real clown because if you go one page back you'd see that the thing i told you to copy into google is from V.I.P's post. Anyway we are wasting good thread space arguing over nonsense. Neither of us are helping in creating the firmware, so im ending this ridiculousness right now. I didn't create a fake name/post just to piss people off. As you can see i have less than 10 posts and i have been a member since 2003. I would not waste my time posting something fake. As i said before, get over yourself. Thank you to C4eva's team for whenever the firmware is released.
Post by: Ranger72 on December 07, 2008, 10:20:00 PM
Post by: deilzfcjk on December 07, 2008, 10:31:00 PM
Post by: swg1251 on December 07, 2008, 10:34:00 PM
QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Dec 8 2008, 12:07 AM)
Stop fighting. Geez, you all are a little to anxious over this new firmware. Are you all gonna be like fuck c4e when this new firmware comes out and you still get banned from live. Now you're all blowing him because you don't have to get drive swaps. But when you get banned you're like I hate his guts. LOL. This never ceases to amaze me.
I think we're done fighting now lol....
And if i get banned, i don't think i would be mad at him since he gave the opportunity to do this anyway, and i know it is my own risk....
Post by: soulwarrior on February 02, 2020, 11:14:00 PM
QUOTE(swg1251 @ Dec 8 2008, 12:59 AM)
Ok, I didn't mean to sound like a jerk... but I'm pretty sure it wasn't really c4eva who posted that, i haven't heard it mentioned or anything in #fw. Maybe you weren't the one that posted it, you just found it and wanted to tell us...
Anyways, back on topic (sort of) thanks to c4eva and team for LiteOn/1.5!!!
QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Dec 8 2008, 01:07 AM)
Stop fighting. Geez, you all are a little to anxious over this new firmware. Are you all gonna be like fuck c4e when this new firmware comes out and you still get banned from live. Now you're all blowing him because you don't have to get drive swaps. But when you get banned you're like I hate his guts. LOL. This never ceases to amaze me.
Yeah i guess we are just antsy. Sorry for calling you a clown. I would never hate someone who has done so much for so many people. Nor would i pretend to be someone who has done so much, just for laughs. Screw whoever made the fake post because i was legitimately excited.
Post by: xeroer on February 03, 2020, 03:25:00 AM
Post by: ej2095 on December 08, 2008, 06:33:00 AM
QUOTE(xeroer @ Dec 8 2008, 12:25 PM)
I had to make myself some popcorn and soda for this whole page.. good drama.
Might even install a screen reader Get it mp3ed and listen to it on teh way to work!! could do with a laugh!!
Post by: xbox360sexual on December 08, 2008, 07:30:00 AM
Post by: caster420 on February 03, 2020, 08:17:00 AM
QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Dec 8 2008, 11:06 AM)
But erm yes, where are these supposed pictures of the chip decapped with acid? I've searched XBH and nothing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
(IMG:http://caster420.360mods.net/decap.jpg)
Post by: ej2095 on February 03, 2020, 08:24:00 AM
Nice work
Wonder how many was dunked in there to get this just right..
Post by: caster420 on February 03, 2020, 08:35:00 AM
QUOTE(ej2095 @ Dec 8 2008, 11:24 AM)
Wonder how many was dunked in there to get this just right..
Half a dozen or so drives were sacrificed over the decapping process.
Caster.
This post has been edited by caster420: Yesterday, 04:39 PM
Post by: ej2095 on February 03, 2020, 08:45:00 AM
Could have just used teh coffe from the machine at work it desolves stuff just as good lol
This post has been edited by ej2095: Yesterday, 04:45 PM
Post by: Mycah on February 03, 2020, 08:57:00 AM
They've been doing it for MAME for awhile.
The Decapping Project
Post by: m3kal on December 08, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
"Now you're all blowing him because you don't have to get drive swaps" LOL Nice
I think ill get some pop corn and sit and read all this to.......... But no really the chip is amazing, i guess nothing in the world is safe lol... " if its made by man that is! "
Carry on guys..... munch munch much yummy pop corn
Post by: Reaper527 on February 03, 2020, 09:20:00 AM
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[05:45] <c4eva> IX1.5 will release tomorrow!!
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NO! THERE IS NO SPECIFIED OR ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE FOR IXTREME v1.5 OR FOR THE LITEON FW! SO DON'T BOTHER ASKING! IT'LL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE
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gotta love when sequential lines have conflicting info (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
at the end of the day, it will be ready when its ready. if it comes out tomorrow, great. if it doesn't, you know it will come out some time soon. no need to worry. would you guys prefer c4e releases an untested firmware that results in bricked dvd drives and bans from live?
Post by: lugi on February 03, 2020, 09:24:00 AM
No info that the fw will come out today/tommorow.
Post by: caster420 on December 08, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Dec 8 2008, 12:20 PM)
well, at least one of the lines in that postbin quote you linked to is true
Not true.
Caster.
Post by: tomalars on December 08, 2008, 09:30:00 AM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Dec 8 2008, 05:57 PM)
Not true.
Caster.
I think that's what Reaper527 is trying to say.. the true line is the one saying that there is no release date for 1.5.
We just have to wait it's as simple as that.
/T
Post by: ej2095 on February 03, 2020, 10:12:00 AM
Post by: m3kal on December 08, 2008, 03:15:00 PM
[00:14] <c4eva> 1.5 - open tray power on support for windows inquiry/fw unlock mode
[00:14] <c4eva> 1.5 - enhanced "bad angle" support
[00:15] <c4eva> 1.5 - single speed only (12x)
[00:15] <c4eva> 1.5 - enhanced SS support for spoofing
[00:16] <c4eva> 1.5 - more secure firmguard - benq only
[00:18] <c4eva> 1.5 - Benq 6039 (1319L) version!
[00:20] <c4eva> 1.5 for liteon will come soon, work on fw continues by the team!
[00:22] <c4eva> liteon fw is complicated, but im optimistic the team will solve it soon!
2008-11-30 (in #fw):
[03:42] <c4eva> flashing liteon is easy, all software,all this has already been done!
[03:43] <c4eva> the team is working on the fw, patience!
[03:47] <c4eva> The team has several liteon dumps and flash back to any liteon perfectly! Patience!
2008-12-04
<+c4eva> LITEON BOOTING BACKUPS! Great work by the team!
2008-12-05
(15:36:51) (+c4eva) onge:no, too busy for that, liteon beta testing this weekend!
(15:39:00) (+c4eva) key will still be via serial for now!
[04:30] <Rinoa> c4eva: u ony going to rlz single speed 12x from now on to Samsung/Hitachi/BenQ/Lite-On drives?
[04:30] <Rinoa> sounds like MS could tell the speed
[04:30] <c4eva> Rinoa:Yes
[04:32] <c4eva> at present the serial is still needed to get the key, everything else is software/sata
[04:35] <prankster> c4eva, do you ever see a non-solder solution for key extraction, or is key always sent over tx?
[04:36] <RoCk-BoX> hey man , i just had a question, is running ixtreme 1.4 as safe as its gunna get on live?
[04:36] <c4eva> 1.5 is better
[04:40] <dffdfd> is the lite-on beta testing this weekend for select members or the general public?
A: it's for a closed group of beta testers initially
[04:44] <c4eva> all flashing for liteon can be done in windows
[04:51] <c4eva> nxe is fine
[05:09] <Suuuuuup2> c4eva, how was the firmware originally dumped?
[05:09] <c4eva> it was decapped in acid!
[05:10] <Suuuuuup2> C4eva, kinda pointless asking, but will the new GUI replace Toolbox ?
[05:11] <c4eva> suuuuup2:yes
[05:12] <c4eva> patching liteon with 1.5 as i speak here
[05:12] <Savior-X> so its been stated ck3 is still needed. anywhere besides divineo ?
[05:13] <Arakon> Savior-X: no, it's not needed. you can just make your own serial adapter for a few bucks, or get the maximus tool
[05:13] <c4eva> xtractor works well
[05:14] <Arakon> xboxhacker.net has several diagrams in the large thread, or get a premade one from ebay (serial ttl converter)
Xbox-Scene forum thread -- "Liteon Key For Free, how to dump your liteon using salvaged parts" -- http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=668247
[05:15] <Suuuuuup2> c4eva, is the lite-on firmware similar to Benq?
[05:16] <c4eva> no
[05:39] <p0tty> n e one try the spear yet for the liteon?
[05:39] <c4eva> p0tty:yes works well
[05:47] <c4eva> flashing liteon is easy. send wipe command then flash fw
[05:48] <Zheez> do you need to power the liteon drives on and off like you used to have to with samsung/benqs?
[05:48] <c4eva> zheez:no
[05:49] <troubloso> so c4eva 1.5 will have new way to flash?
[05:49] <c4eva> troub:yes
[05:26] <liqwidsky> c4eva, what does the improved bad angle support in 1.5 do?
[05:30] <c4eva> it will ensure no more bad angle before jitter
[05:34] <liqwidsky> [...] is 1.5 doing something extra, like decrypting the host ccrt and checking deviation?
[05:38] <c4eva> yes within deviation will not allow bad angles
2008-12-07
[02:39] <c4eva> ALL SPOOFED LITEONS ARE EASILY DETECTABLE BY MS! EVEN BENQ! WILL NEED IX1.5!
[02:42] <c4eva> 1.5 will cater for hidden liteon MS command!
[02:47] <mjstriker> I have spoofed over 50 drives and I haven't heard of anyone being detected
[02:48] <c4eva> detected, not banned, that may come later
2008-12-08
[01:54] <c4eva> liteon reads backups nice n fast, no benqish problems!
[01:57] <c4eva> very much like sammy
[01:58] <c4eva> quiet as well
[02:02] <c4eva> spoof with a liteon, will be supported
[02:05] <c4eva> tested on assasins creed, no issues!
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ESTIMATED RELEASE DATE FOR IXTREME v1.5 FOR LITE-ON/BENQ/SAMSUNG/HITACHI IS BEFORE CHRISTMAS | BETA TESTING BEGINS SOON
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Post by: swg1251 on December 08, 2008, 03:59:00 PM
New #fw topic link (just in case anyone doesn't believe for some reason):
http://nopaste.com/p/azkmZNcPmb
Post by: Reaper527 on December 08, 2008, 04:29:00 PM
QUOTE(tomalars @ Dec 8 2008, 12:06 PM)
I think that's what Reaper527 is trying to say.. the true line is the one saying that there is no release date for 1.5.
We just have to wait it's as simple as that.
/T
yup. that is exactly what i was getting at. but i was wrong, as there is an eta.
according to the #fw topic
QUOTE
The topic for #fw is: | ? list | ASKING FOR LITEON OR 1.5 FIRMWARE = BAN | Lite-On b4 Xmas! http://XS Filter - 110506 - 1/6y7pgw |
Post by: BoNg420 on December 08, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
QUOTE(baltazor @ Dec 8 2008, 07:33 PM)
are you DEAD serious about that !!? rgds,
baltaatje,
probably, with people swapping to another drive, they were prob donated.
Post by: xeroer on December 09, 2008, 07:48:00 AM
Post by: baltazor on December 09, 2008, 01:55:00 PM
QUOTE(caster420 @ Dec 9 2008, 02:46 PM)
Yes... why would i make it up? That many were required for a few reasons, such as perfecting the decapping process. I'm sure Iriez will release more info if it is agreed.
Caster.
Its not that you woud make up such things !! It just pains me to read so many lights went out in the process
!!No i didnt thought for one msec you made this up! But yeah, i kind of hoped you exagurated an bit .. so many good readers (from wot ive read and heared) indeed sacrificed !!
Lets hope this form of genocide never repeats again
rgds,
baltaatje,
Post by: coedshowers on December 10, 2008, 01:55:00 AM
ive already called a few to have them come by so i can get the keys off them and have them already "read" and in folders with the serial ( so i don't mix anything up ) ... hope he releases 1.5 before i head to vegas for CES in jan. i cant wait to play around and flash whatever new ones i can get my hands on :/
Post by: zita212 on December 10, 2008, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Mycah @ Dec 8 2008, 04:57 PM)
This type of chip reverse engineering isn't all that rare or all that expensive really.
They've been doing it for MAME for awhile.
The Decapping Project
You don't really understand the difference. Decapping in acid aside, MAME projects are optically reading "simple" maskroms. The challenge here was to attach to 50 micron connection wires as you can see in the photo and read electrically the information. No specs are published for the piggybacked chip (timings, pin"out", voltage levels). Personally, I'm totally impressed with their work.
Post by: Reaper527 on December 10, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(baltazor @ Dec 9 2008, 04:31 PM)
Its not that you woud make up such things !! It just pains me to read so many lights went out in the process
!!No i didnt thought for one msec you made this up! But yeah, i kind of hoped you exagurated an bit .. so many good readers (from wot ive read and heared) indeed sacrificed !!
Lets hope this form of genocide never repeats again
rgds,
baltaatje,
its not like they were killing systems. people probably dumped their lite-on key, replaced with a benq/hitachi/samsung drive, and then donated the drive for testing.
with all the RROD machines out there, there are more drives than systems.
Post by: gentetsu on December 24, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
Here is what happened - at the moment i am so peeved off i cannot think straight at all!
I followed a guide to use jungleflasher and it all went smoothly until it asked me to erase the existing fw so i did as the guide told me. Ever since then my liteon drive does not respond to spear and extractor as well as making my computer refuse to boot with my liteon drive attached to extractor!!!!
If i remove the power from the drive the pc boots, if i wait until desktop is loaded and all and reconnect the drive the pc freezes! It's like its trying to tell me the drive is dead.
I no longer see the blue led on the spear when i try to read the key off R707 and dosflash32 no longer lists my sata port D800 anymore as well as other programs like liteon erase. All Liteon erase gives me for status is FFFF!
So right now i believe my liteon drive is pretty much dead!!!
True i am grateful to the team for their hardwork and true i knew it was buggy still but it should never have being released if it would cause this much damage!!!