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Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: potatoes2 on October 23, 2008, 09:15:00 AM
Just a quick question, since Lite-On is still all the rage since there's no "easy" way to do it.

I'm sure my situation is the same as hundreds of other forum lurkers..

So my question is..

If I wanted to spoof a samsung drive with a key that was extracted from the lite-on.. then all I have to do is get the key somehow (Xtractor 360....), then make the new FW in Iprep and use MKTFlash etc to "inject" the spoofed key into the FW right?

Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Drjones on October 23, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
never done a lite-on..

I imagine it's the same as other spoofs...

get the lite-on key
get sammy fw
inject key into sammy and spoof in fwtoolbox
flash with mtkflash
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: buddy6 on October 23, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
QUOTE(potatoes2 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:51 PM) *

Just a quick question, since Lite-On is still all the rage since there's no "easy" way to do it.

I'm sure my situation is the same as hundreds of other forum lurkers..

So my question is..

If I wanted to spoof a samsung drive with a key that was extracted from the lite-on.. then all I have to do is get the key somehow (Xtractor 360....), then make the new FW in Iprep and use MKTFlash etc to "inject" the spoofed key into the FW right?


Lite-on to ms28 or ms25
Use firmware toolbox    
Basically
1/ Get key of original drive---- lite-on   use rs232
2/open your new drive firmware   e.g. ms28
3/ insert key of original drive----lite-on use key.bin
4/ patch with extreme 1.4
5/ spoof drive as original drive --- lite-on     select custom use inquiry.bin
6/ flash new drive---- use iprep mtkflash

This post has been edited by buddy6: Oct 23 2008, 08:05 PM
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Ranger72 on October 23, 2008, 01:25:00 PM
QUOTE(buddy6 @ Oct 23 2008, 08:40 PM) View Post

Lite-on to ms28 or ms25
Use firmware toolbox    
Basically
1/ Get key of original drive---- lite-on   use rs232
2/open your new drive firmware   e.g. ms28
3/ insert key of original drive----lite-on use key.bin
4/ patch with extreme 1.4
5/ spoof drive as original drive --- lite-on     select custom use inquiry.bin
6/ flash new drive---- use iprep mtkflash


Pretty much sums it up.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: letsmod on October 23, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
clarified:

Lite-on to ms28 or ms25
Use firmware toolbox 4.8

Basically
1) Get key of original drive (Lite-On Phillips) ---- 360xtractor or usee rs232
2)Dump your MS28
3)replace MS28 key with lite-on Key
4)convert to IX14
5) spoof drive using CUSTOM Setting --- lite-on select custom use inquiry.bin
6) flash new drive---- use iprep, mtkflash, or dosflash 1.6

If you have a 360xtractor tool and a legacy SATA mainboard (intel chipset)
1) DUMP Samsung orig.bin
2) convert to IX14
3) get 3 files using xtractor software
4) spoof (self explanitory in xtractor software)
5) flash Samsung with new file

If you have a 360xtractor tool and a NON-legacy SATA mainboard (intel chipset) (basically Via card)
1) DUMP Samsung orig.bin
2) convert to IX14
3) Using DVDkey32 get key.bin and inquiry.bin
4) Open Key.bin in hexeditor and write down keys
5) replace MS28 key with lite-on Key with FW toolbox 4.8
6) Convert Samsung to IX14
7) Spoof drive using CUSTOM Setting (fw toolbox) --- lite-on select custom use inquiry.bin
8) flash new drive---- use iprep, mtkflash, or dosflash 1.6
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: yaro127 on November 10, 2008, 03:45:00 AM
I replaced liteon drive with samsung ms28 in my xbox, spoofing and flashing process without problems(inquiry.bin,identify.bin,key.bin, iXtreme 1.4 firmware ,360drive switcher, Iprep) new sammy works fine, its recognised by xbox, dvd movies are working,original games too but.. the backup copies of games are not  sad.gif  why? I do not understand  blink.gif  please... some one can help me???

Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: gevurgazi on November 10, 2008, 07:09:00 AM
Did you hack the original firmware with Xtreme 1.4? What i mean is, you might have just added the key and spoofed sammy original firmware without installing Xtreme. I can't think of anything else to be honest.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: buddy6 on November 10, 2008, 10:25:00 AM
QUOTE(yaro127 @ Nov 10 2008, 11:21 AM) View Post

I replaced liteon drive with samsung ms28 in my xbox, spoofing and flashing process without problems(inquiry.bin,identify.bin,key.bin, iXtreme 1.4 firmware ,360drive switcher, Iprep) new sammy works fine, its recognised by xbox, dvd movies are working,original games too but.. the backup copies of games are not  sad.gif  why? I do not understand  blink.gif  please... some one can help me???

does the firmware that you flashed to your ms25 look like this
open it up in firmware toolbox have a look
IPB Image
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Spadesluck on November 10, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
QUOTE(potatoes2 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:51 PM) View Post

Just a quick question, since Lite-On is still all the rage since there's no "easy" way to do it.

I'm sure my situation is the same as hundreds of other forum lurkers..

So my question is..

If I wanted to spoof a samsung drive with a key that was extracted from the lite-on.. then all I have to do is get the key somehow (Xtractor 360....), then make the new FW in Iprep and use MKTFlash etc to "inject" the spoofed key into the FW right?


What kind of DVD'rs are you using? I found mine did not like to certain brands. I did the exact same thing you are trying as well went from Lite-On to Samsung and I use TDK DVD+DL R.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: yaro127 on November 10, 2008, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(buddy6 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:01 PM) View Post

does the firmware that you flashed to your ms25 look like this
open it up in firmware toolbox have a look
IPB Image


Yes it looks exactly like this ! and I was mistaken , original games dosent work too,only movies are working.  I guess the key is wrong sad.gif the guy who extraced key just f..k me or he mess something up and give me wrong key  mad.gif

after all thx for help   smile.gif

QUOTE(buddy6 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:01 PM) View Post

does the firmware that you flashed to your ms25 look like this
open it up in firmware toolbox have a look
IPB Image


Yes it looks exactly like this ! and I was mistaken , original games dosent work too,only movies are working.  I guess the key is wrong sad.gif the guy who extraced key just f..k me or he mess something up and give me wrong key  mad.gif

after all thx for help   smile.gif

QUOTE(buddy6 @ Nov 10 2008, 07:01 PM) View Post

does the firmware that you flashed to your ms25 look like this
open it up in firmware toolbox have a look
IPB Image


Yes it looks exactly like this ! but I was mistaken , original games doesn't work too,only movies are working.  I guess the key is wrong sad.gif the guy who extracted key form liteon just f..k me or he mess something up and give me wrong key  mad.gif

after all thx for help   smile.gif
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: xb-360 on November 11, 2008, 02:34:00 AM
IS this basically the hardware you use and the software that I have a link at the bottom of that page,  Youtube Tuts.  3 of them.  I see Maximux mentioned here and toolbox but none of these tools are mentioned from this ebay link below.  no mention of toolbox nor iprep, mtkflash, or dosflash 1.6.  WIll I need the toolbox or any of these other tools mentioned if I use that hardware and software link below?

I will be buying the new Elite Xbox which will have the liteon drive.  I will also be purchasing a Samsung/LG ms28 so not sure if this ebay item and software will work or not?

I will still have to jumper the drive as some links show correct?  Using conductivity paint is what I would use or jumper wire?

Here is the link:

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330284864050&_trksid=p2759.l1259

It seems reasonable because for me to purchase the R3232 and connectivity devices separately I probably would spend nearly that amount.

I will also help out some friends as well so it might be well worth the money?

Also this way everything is in one board.

The question is will the software they provide work to flash the Samsung drive or will I need some other software you mention in this thread?

I have linux fedora and mandriva running on the same machine as the windows xp machine

Windows XP on a gigabyte MB using intel chipset core 2 duo and no legacy chipsets  With SATA of course.

Mac OSX on 2 quad core Macintosh workstation less than 6 months old with vmware fusion running both xp and linux.  Not slax but easy to install in vmware fusion.  Although there are no RS232 ports on a MAC!!

Thanks

This post has been edited by xb-360: Nov 11 2008, 10:45 AM
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: lilmike09 on January 05, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
QUOTE(letsmod @ Oct 23 2008, 12:41 PM) View Post

clarified:

Lite-on to ms28 or ms25
Use firmware toolbox 4.8

Basically
1) Get key of original drive (Lite-On Phillips) ---- 360xtractor or usee rs232
2)Dump your MS28
3)replace MS28 key with lite-on Key
4)convert to IX14
5) spoof drive using CUSTOM Setting --- lite-on select custom use inquiry.bin
6) flash new drive---- use iprep, mtkflash, or dosflash 1.6


Is this possible to do without inquiry.bin? i had someone on ebay extract my drive key, but they say they cannot get the inquiry.bin, becuase they damaged my lite-on drive (but have sent me a replacement samsung ms28). When i use firmware toolbox i follow all the steps you say, except when i get to step 5, i cannot choose custom, becuase i don't have inquiry.bin, but there is an option to spoof as lite-on, it says it will work but is reccomended to use "custom" option with inquiry.bin...  Long story short, i don't have inquiry.bin will the spoof still work without it by choosing the spoof as lite-on option?
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: frosty1 on January 07, 2009, 05:47:00 AM
Hi .. quick question... in order to spoof the sammy (assuming the sammy has already been flashed with Ixtreme at one point) as a lite-on do you need the original firmware of the sammy or can you dump the hacked one and then inject the keys of the lite-on?

This post has been edited by frosty1: Jan 7 2009, 01:47 PM
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Bravo1 on March 01, 2009, 05:47:00 PM
QUOTE(frosty1 @ Jan 7 2009, 04:23 AM) View Post

Hi .. quick question... in order to spoof the sammy (assuming the sammy has already been flashed with Ixtreme at one point) as a lite-on do you need the original firmware of the sammy or can you dump the hacked one and then inject the keys of the lite-on?


Anyone able to answer this one yet?

I have a Lite-On drive and have extracted my key.  Could I just inject this key into my Sammy MS-28 that is running the ixtreme 1.4 and drop it into my 360?
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Torgospizza on March 02, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
I find it an interesting question since I find myself in a similar situation.  I just purchased Jasper Arcade to replace my RROD 1st Gen.  (It got to the point where adjusting the heatsink any further is pointless.)

Now I find myself in the situation where I can either flash the Arcade's Lite-On or use my old Sammy 25 in the Arcade.  I might post this in a separate thread later, but is there any advantage to use the Sammy in the Arcade with spoofed firmware?  (I'd probably update the iXtreme to 1.5 while I was at it.)

Opinions?
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Proppo on March 02, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
Well, extracting the drives key is that hard part.  If you do that, you may aswell just use the liteon drive.  Spoofing from one drive to the next isn't 100% life safe, no one has been banned as far as I know, just each drive responds differently.

So basically, if you go to the hastle of getting the key, you may aswell use that drive.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: Torgospizza on March 02, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Proppo @ Mar 2 2009, 02:50 PM) *

So basically, if you go to the hastle of getting the key, you may aswell use that drive.

That is what I was thinking.  I can still use the Sammy in a PC I use just for making backups.  Who knows... maybe I can get the Xenon working again, now I have a replacement to aleviate "downtime" for the kids.  I'll be doing something soon.  I still don't trust my four-year old with the original disks and I can't be around when I'm at work.

All things considered, I'm surprised the Xenon lasted this long.  I picked a Jasper replacement on purpose hoping the smaller die sizes will pay off in the long run when it comes to heat issues.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: kaneda_77 on March 17, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(letsmod @ Oct 23 2008, 10:41 AM) View Post

clarified:

Lite-on to ms28 or ms25
Use firmware toolbox 4.8

Basically
1) Get key of original drive (Lite-On Phillips) ---- 360xtractor or usee rs232
2)Dump your MS28
3)replace MS28 key with lite-on Key
4)convert to IX14
5) spoof drive using CUSTOM Setting --- lite-on select custom use inquiry.bin
6) flash new drive---- use iprep, mtkflash, or dosflash 1.6

If you have a 360xtractor tool and a legacy SATA mainboard (intel chipset)

If you have a 360xtractor tool and a NON-legacy SATA mainboard (intel chipset) (basically Via card)


I don't have the option to go back to the Lite on drive. I have a Samsung TS-H943 drive(MS25). I got all of the files from the Lite-on via Xtractor(inquiry.bin, dummy.bin, key.bin.. etc). Otherwise I would just flash the liteon drive. I want to flash to ix1.5 and it seems that the tools are not as cooperative. So here is my questions.
Legacy means onboard right? vs. a non-legacy pci card?
I've flashed several drives in the past but never spoofed one. First thing I need is a MS28 dump SAM-OFW.bin correct?
Do I have to convert to ix1.4 before I do the ix1.5 step?

I'm using these for reference:
http://team-xecuter....ck3/samsung.htm
http://beta.ivancove...D2S_Extract_Key
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: LoS HimSelF on March 19, 2009, 12:37:00 AM
i dont think anyone really answered the question?

I have a lite-on that i am 99% sure i bricked but i have the Key, but not any of the bin files... Cant i just copy and paste the key and spoof it like that, or do i need the inquiry bin file? Any help would be great
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: kaneda_77 on March 19, 2009, 03:44:00 AM
Technically from what I have read, I think you can get it to work with the key, but you may stand a higher chance of getting banned by M$. The pros will pipe in when they get a chance.
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: subliminaltrips on March 23, 2011, 11:41:00 PM
QUOTE(kaneda_77 @ Mar 19 2009, 05:44 AM) View Post

Technically from what I have read, I think you can get it to work with the key, but you may stand a higher chance of getting banned by M$. The pros will pipe in when they get a chance.

can anyone confirm this? i have my key written down and cant pull .bin's. can i just enter the key into my sammy?
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: modguru.gr on March 24, 2011, 01:30:00 AM
QUOTE(subliminaltrips @ Mar 24 2011, 07:41 AM) View Post

can anyone confirm this? i have my key written down and cant pull .bin's. can i just enter the key into my sammy?

yes you can do this but ..
in the new dasboards  after the kinect you can not spoof a samsung as liteon the m$ has locked .
but you can buy a lite on drive any lite on 74xxx 83xxx 94xxx and spoofed with your key and you are done ...
Title: [spoofing] Lite-on ---> Samsung
Post by: iateshaggy on March 24, 2011, 06:04:00 AM
that isn't 100% right either.  you can spoof all day long, u just won't be able to play any ap25 games and you are detectable.