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Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 07:24:00 AM

would appreciate greatly if someone could point me in the right direction to a link or somethin explainin how i can replace my busted ms28 (have fware with key) with my new ms25, i know i need to spoof it but i cant remember how to create the spoofed fware any advice would help thanks in advance

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 24, 2008, 07:32:00 AM

What's with the MS28.... If it's just Laser/motor/tray assembly etc... you can just swap the PCB's, the mechanicals are identical.....

This post has been edited by podger: Apr 24 2008, 02:33 PM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 07:54:00 AM

hold on till i rub my eyes!!!!! am i still sleepin? thanks mate that didnt even cross my mind!!!! ill give it a go

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 08:05:00 AM

ok i tried that and all i get is put this disc in a 360 console!!!! im stumped now

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 24, 2008, 08:24:00 AM

This error means key is wrong......

Firstly, What was/is wrong with the MS28..... It's PCB should have your key on it... This needs to stay with the 360....

If you put the MS25 PCB on the MS28 drive then key will be wrong.....

Only work if you put MS28 pcb on the MS25 drive.... say if the MS28 laser was dead

This post has been edited by podger: Apr 24 2008, 03:25 PM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 08:28:00 AM

QUOTE(podger @ Apr 24 2008, 03:24 PM)

This error means key is wrong......

Firstly, What was/is wrong with the MS28..... It's PCB should have your key on it... This needs to stay with the 360....

If you put the MS25 PCB on the MS28 drive then key will be wrong.....

Only work if you put MS28 pcb on the MS25 drive.... say if the MS28 laser was dead

the ms28 drive wasnt reading any discs at all. ive put the 28 pcb on the 25 drive and its still put this in a 360 console

This post has been edited by chrisdot: Apr 24 2008, 03:29 PM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 24, 2008, 09:20:00 AM

Not good.... Did you ever mod the console.... Could the key have been changed.... Are you using originals or backups....

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 11:23:00 AM

the ms28 drive was working up til about a week or so ago then just stopped reading any discs orig or backups then just went, so key should be ok on it but it must have corrupted somehow, whats the chances of gettin the key off the board or how do i check what the key is in the fware file?

do you think that if i swapped the lasers in the drives it could work usin th eold fware file?

This post has been edited by chrisdot: Apr 24 2008, 06:24 PM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 24, 2008, 11:56:00 AM

just got it to play a dvd copy!!!! strange

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 24, 2008, 03:54:00 PM

I read recently, that sometimes a dirty laser will stop the drive seeing layer 2 where the ss.bin is stored, this can cause that type of error....

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: Havok on April 24, 2008, 10:56:00 PM

Chips don;t magically become corrupt or change...

You have a problem mechanically with the MS28 and / or MS25 drives.  

You can try rubberband fixes... check the magnetic spindle.. tweak the pots etc..

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 25, 2008, 02:15:00 AM

Many thanks for all your replys it is wholeheartedly appreciated, i will try some of your suggestions today havok. hopefuly this will remedy my situation.
thanks again to all who contributed.

p.s. are you saying that because it played a dvd movie copy that the key is definately ok?

This post has been edited by chrisdot: Apr 25 2008, 09:16 AM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 25, 2008, 04:24:00 AM

No definately not..... If your key is wrong, playing DVD's is all it will do.... In all of this you are assuming that the ms25 is good, it may not be..

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 25, 2008, 06:50:00 AM

i think its safe to assume that the ms25 is ok as its brand new!, im now sittin here stumped as i have 2 drives none of which work and one of which is brand new, both will play copy and orig dvd movies but games (backups) put in 360 console and (originals) same error message. Help!!!! dunno what to do now, think my only saving grace would be to get some kind person to tell me how to find key from fware file and then get a ms25 clean dump from somewhere and inject my key (as i dont have orig fware only hacked.

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 25, 2008, 07:06:00 AM

It's extremely unlikely that the MS25 is new, they haven't be manufactured since 2006....

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 25, 2008, 09:45:00 AM

well when i say new i got it off ebay and it came in a new box!!!

can anyone help me find my key and try to get my 360 back to life!

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: podger on April 25, 2008, 09:58:00 AM

If you are sure you have the right key in your backup from before... then put the MS25 back together

Download the iXtreme 1.4 for samsung and un-rar it..... Place a firmware with your key in one for the folders off of "Samsung iXtreme 1.4", your choice 2x, 5x, 8x or 12x and call it orig.bin....

double click "Make iXtreme firmware.cmd" and this will make a bin file for you called ix14.bin, flash this to you MS25 and you should be all set....

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 26, 2008, 04:27:00 AM

ok i manually copied the key and pasted it into correct location in a new iextreme fware file and flashed that and all i can say is "poo". I have no idea how the drive key has been lost but its now just an expensive paperweight!....

i wanna thank you podger for doin yer best to help me out but i think ive lost this one. reading some other posts regarding the loss of the drive key is fatal.

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 26, 2008, 08:49:00 AM

cant belive it a mate of mine managed to get my key all i need now is to....??

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 26, 2008, 09:32:00 AM

can anyone point me in the direction of how to patch in your dvdrom key to a fware file when you dont have orig.bin?

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 26, 2008, 12:55:00 PM

can a ms25 run ms28 fware?

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: Ranger72 on April 26, 2008, 12:29:00 PM

QUOTE(chrisdot @ Apr 26 2008, 07:55 PM)

can a ms25 run ms28 fware?

Every ms25 drive running hacked firmware is running ms28 firmware.

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 26, 2008, 01:18:00 PM

then my drive key must be wrong theres no other explanation for it, theres me gettin my hopes up when its a expensive bookend!!!

This post has been edited by chrisdot: Apr 26 2008, 08:26 PM

Title: Help With Doin A Ms28 To Ms25
Post by: chrisdot on April 27, 2008, 03:44:00 AM

as im on more than my 1st 360 ive had a few through breakages.... i checked my storage just to see if i had any other drives knockin about, i guessed that as ive tried everythin with the key ive got and no joy i would try to see if i had any other keys on other drives that could be correct, i had a hitachi lyin there so i hooked it up and dumped the fware, tried that key in the ms25 and when i plug the sata cable into drive the screen dissapears!!!!, does this tell me anythin as im lost.....again!!!