Post by: OggyUK on April 10, 2008, 01:36:00 PM
Poor install to TSOP legs, or faulty passkey.....Is it official?
Out of interest -
What camera / lens combo did you use for that pic? What wattage/temp iron did you use to remove it, 300 degrees 'swiping rmeoved mine fine.
Post by: OggyUK on April 10, 2008, 01:56:00 PM
Do you have a magnifying glass to check closer? Also, do you have the install points right?
It really does sound like a bad install.
Those Ixus' are good camers
Post by: OggyUK on April 11, 2008, 04:34:00 PM
B+ C Are not in use.
Post by: VanydotK on April 11, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
Post by: OggyUK on April 11, 2008, 05:42:00 PM
Podger, Ive honestly never seen the traces make a difference unless they are bridged, Im happy to be corrected, we all learn in this game.
Although, no-one ever reports a knackered trace that works
Post by: podger on April 12, 2008, 04:27:00 AM
QUOTE(OggyUK @ Apr 11 2008, 11:18 PM) 
Podger, Ive honestly never seen the traces make a difference unless they are bridged, Im happy to be corrected, we all learn in this game.
I didn't say a word........ check back no posts, i was leaving this one to you.... never do passkeys
But... If the 79 is AOK with no passkey, but stops with the passkey, then
1. Bad install
2. Bad passkey
Post by: OggyUK on April 12, 2008, 04:38:00 AM
Post by: podger on April 12, 2008, 04:57:00 AM
Post by: OggyUK on April 12, 2008, 05:25:00 AM
I thought VanydotK's post was yours podger lol
Post by: idlewind on April 13, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
Both drives still work when passkey is soldered off.
I've tried installing the wires to both the pins on the legs of the chip, and on the "flat" connectors used for the flatcable-install. As far as i know, when the passkey is working, it should blink a few times during boot, and the drive itself should appear in the bios.
When i boot without the passkey installed, the lens is shifting back and forth. It continues to do so when i connect the volt and grnd -wires. But as soon as i connect wire "a" (either to leg or the flat point), the drive does not get recognized in the bios, and does not even do that little lens-shifing thing.
I tried the trick with turning the power on and off a few times before booting, with no luck.
What is normal behavior for a successfull install for a passkey? Is the lens shifting on boot like normal, or does the passkey do some magic (modeB and all) that makes it NOT shift the lens?
Post by: GeToChKn on April 13, 2008, 08:39:00 AM
Post by: idlewind on April 13, 2008, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(GeToChKn @ Apr 13 2008, 05:15 PM)
Back to the original question, 2,3,8 need to be connected for the drive to work as normal again.
Does the drive work without the passkey, if 2-3-8 are disconnected ?
Post by: OggyUK on April 13, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
Gotta be install related or dodgy passkey.
Post by: podger on April 13, 2008, 05:57:00 PM
18, 19 are only going to test points... However, 24 is the groung pin and would absolutely need to be connected for the board to work....
Post by: swampy1111 on April 14, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(idlewind @ Apr 14 2008, 10:26 PM)
A small update ;
Some more tests, this time with a multimeter! (is that the english word?) testing-device!
Everything seems OK! Besides that point "H" and "I" on the passkey itself are "connected".
Theres no bridge (hardly any solder at all), but theres a connection between the two.
I also checked the legs on the chip (on the passkey) and theres no bridge there aswell.
That doesnt seem right, can anyone confirm ? o_O
i just checked my passkey and points H and I are not connected
Post by: NookularDeath on April 14, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
then spoofed as a 79.
I have an external programmer.. way better than the 79 Passkey method.. No longer need Passkey
in future updates, due to drive being a 78 series..
Post by: idlewind on April 17, 2008, 10:39:00 AM
The passkey itself was faulty, and it worked instantly with a new one.
Reading and flashing went great with both drives, but they have big issues with playing backups.
Drive no #1 plays some bakcups (verbatims) but often gets "unplayable disk" errors.
Drive no #2 plays originals only. Bakcups gets the "unplayable disk" error when failing to read.
Both drives were flashed using Firmware Toolbox 4.6, by reading the FW, patching it with ixtreme 1.4 using the buildt in patcher, and written to the drive with the differensial patch option. A second dump af the firmware confirmed them to be hitachi 79 drives running iXtreme 1.4 8x.
Is there such a big difference in drives/lenses that one might play some backups that the other one doesnt?
If i damaged something on the DVD-Rom, it shouldnt boot games at all, not just denying backups.
Any suggestions about what might be wrong?
Post by: podger on April 17, 2008, 11:10:00 AM
google for moda.pdf
Post by: idlewind on April 17, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
Thanks again for all the help!